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What went wrong?

What went right?
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>>1237966
The rest of the world.

Nothing there.
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It's Russia. Their entire history is "and then it got worse".

Their entire economy was dependent on exporting oil to capitalists. The oil crisis in the 70s made them strong. Then oil got cheap in the 80s and caused them to collapse.

They did well for a bit in the 50s and 60s. When they were trying to prove they were better than the West.
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>>1237966
Socialist Revolution in none core industrial society, e.g. US or Germany.

Industrialised rapidly and had decent standard of living.

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Is psychology a science or a humanities topic? I tried posting in /sci/ and they all told me to come here.
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Hello
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>>1237965
hiya
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it certainly isn't a science lol

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Recommended reads about Rome?
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The Aeneid
The Histories
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>>1237875
Should you mean history in general and don't mind searching/spending a fair bit I could reccomend both of asimovs books on the topic the Roman republic is rather thorough but mildly basic so is the empire it just depends on how extensive you want it. Also I could reccomend sulpicius's cook book or of course bello de Galico
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Roman Art:
http://pastebin.com/89cTwfpD

Roman Army:
http://pastebin.com/iiyMSsDP

Roman Empire:
http://pastebin.com/ibgv0LH6

Roman Cities:
http://pastebin.com/PN4dRtGe

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Who is the best Byzantine Emperor and why it is Anastasius?

>Proven statesman even before wearing the purple
>Reform the administration
>Reform the economy
>Filled the treasury (only to have it drained by the memeemperor later on)
>Can calm the crowds by just standing in front of them (when memeemperor did the same, people chimped out even more)
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>>1237782
Ferdinand II of Aragon
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>>1237782
I'm pretty sure you mean Roman Emperor, OP
there is no such title as "Emperor of Byzantium"
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>>1237797
There is no "Emperor" either you pretentious prick. No one called himself Imperator.

I hope all Basileus's fuck you in your pretentious arrogant ass like a true greek pederast.

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Should we treat cetaceans, great apes and elephants as if they're sentient?

We don't know yet if they are, or even what that means but evidence seems to indicate they're different from other animals. They're smarter and perhaps more aware. Is it the safest bet ethically for us to stop hunting them and try to communicate, if such a thing were possible?
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They're not sentient, stupid. They don't have the capacity for self-reflection. Well neither do RepubliKKKans but that's beside the point.
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>>1237772
>sentient
They are sentient.

You mean sapient.

They may be closer. You care more about them, because you can identify more with them.

As knowledge of their behavior becomes more widespread and people become more empathetic you can expect more people to try to protect them.

As it is, most people that hunt these animals don't really know or care. Often they can't afford to care, as they derive much of their livelihood from hunting or otherwise exploiting...
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Is it ethical to alter the genetics of these and maybe other animals to make them hyper-intelligent and definitely sapient?

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Finno-Ugrics. What's up with these guys?

Finns and Estonians look like scandinavians and Udmurts look like Irish. Yet they're originally from central asia?
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>>1237618
Theyre mixed up with siberians

whats not to get
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>>1237618
Irish people move everywhere.

Even thousands of years ago they were immigrating to the far east of Europe.
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Any answer ITT is wrong, because the answer is not known.

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Post /his/ music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6uXU1vUEwU
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Heidevolk - Opstand der Bataven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpHgS3e-V4s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM
1949-1990

RIP in peace, I cri everytiem.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vzo06KkoeI

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What if instead attacking France in 1914, Germans instead attack Russians in the East and hold a defensive line against the frogs?
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>>1237537
If Russia would have collapsed considerably sooner say late 1915 or early 1916 the war in the west would have had a different outcome. Personally i think France would have collapsed somwhere around late 1917/early 1918. Germany wouldn't have starved as bad (ukrainian agriculture) and maybe would have gotten some valuable ressources out of the empires rotten corpse.

I think GB and the Reich would have made a peace Deal at some point. France would have had an even worse face than Weimar, plagued by revanchists...
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>>1237915

france wouldnt, but italy practicaly did
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>>1237925
France would have collapsed at some point against loads of german troops from the east and whatever A-U could spare.

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Does appeal to historical progress, function as the secular equivalent to "Deus Vult" and "divine ordination"? It seems to have largely filled that vacuum.
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>>1237533
Long story short: yes. Empiricism also plays a role, in the sense that science (including social science) is given quasi-religious authority in public debates despite none of the participants really understanding the research and data.
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>>1237533
>Hillary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
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>>1237547
So the point is that we're supposed to be laughing at the stupidity of the article, right? You don't actually think like that?

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Do any of you know what the oldest written language, or just oldest language known to have been used, is?

And do you know how the letters were used to form sentences, or have any good books or websites you could recommend?
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>>1237517
That is Babylonian cuneiform, and it's not the oldest written script. Of physical examples we have, it's hotly debated if Sumerian cuneiform is oldest or Egyptian hieroglyphs. The debate is two-fold, the actual age of the strata in which they're found and the "long or short" reckoning to the events which they portray.
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>>1237517
Earliest written communication was not phonetic or even syllabic. It was more like ideas and subsequent modifiers. You could say "man", then, "I mean this man who was a son", then you say "specifically related to this king", then "arose" (or became king, or deified), then "when this event happened" (which might be a conflict, or an astronomical sign, or foundation of a city) , and on and on.
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I don't think theres a clear agreement on this, the first Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hierogliphic finds are from roughly the same era, plus there are several finds of protowriting even much older from all over the world.

Do we have any idea as to what Ancient Egyptian might have sounded like? And if so, how?
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>>1237411
we can read ancient hieroglyphics
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>>1237438
But how? How do we know the pronunciation and the accent?

Did they write it down somewhere in hieroglyphics and then, with the information we get from the Rosetta stone or something, translate their instructions?
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>>1237438
They tend to be missing vowels, and the rosetta stone wasn't exactly phonetic.

...also seems that the idea that spinning pottery can capture sounds was a bit bogus.

We do know that some words in living languages have Kemet roots, however, and we can infer some pronunciation from those words.

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And what political parties today would admire the Jacobins overthrowing the tyrannical rule of the Capets? Who would oppose the Jacobins today?
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Judging by its fruits, no.
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The Revolutionary Terror in France was not just aimed at the aristocracy. It was also aimed at the left, and 'anarchists', whose power-base was the Sections of Paris. They wanted the revolution rooted in popular power rather than the centralised state that Robespierre was building. They had to be got rid of. The same thing happened in Russia under Lenin. Robespierre was right in seeing a highly centralised France as necessary for the survival of the Revolution against counter-revolution and the various interventionist powers ranged against France.
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the indiscriminate slaughter of peaceful christians, the destruction of priceless religious artefacts, and the establishment of a cult of reason that forbade belief in god and mandated atheism were all good things

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Which Christian denomination is the least heretical?
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Roman Catholic
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Miaphysite

offtopic, >>1234567
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The Russian and Greek Orthodox Churches.

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When historical music is discussed, it's almost always art music. But how about we have a thread on historical popular music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NxvmvHb440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vX8i7zFLDg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh503H9pNeI
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You know, you don't always have to have your trip on especially when you're making non-religious threads
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>>1237189
I normally do but I get a lot of flack for talking solely about religion, so that's why I kept it on this time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgCRCPVGrr0

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Why is it so hard for people to accept that Byzantium is the legitimate continuation of the Roman Empire?
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>>1237113
bruh, it goes like this:

Rome Kingdom-Rome Republic-Rome Empire-Byzantine Empire-Ottoman Empire-Turkish Repulic Modern day Rome is Erdogan yo. (Moscow claimed a bit when the ottomans came in, but it all settled out when the revolution happened)
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>>1237123
It belongs to the West or the Habsburgs after they sold their crown or their HRE lands were repurposed.
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>>1237113
Because then we'd have to accept the Ottomans as the legitimate continuation of the Roman Empire.

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