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Does western civilization start with the Greeks?
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>>12699
More or less. You could say that our religious and political structures are derived from Greek philosophy.
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>>12699

Egypt actually. But Greece is a close contender.
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>>12851
>egypt
>west
pick one

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Can we discuss historical armor and weapons in this board?
If so, historical armor and weapons thread.
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crusader armor makes me hard
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>>12810
post a pic of crusader armor then
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>>12810
>that disgusting fantasy-like setup
I bet you kiss girls too

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William Shakespeare could not, unaided, have produced the immortal writings bearing his name.

He did not possess the necessary literary culture, for the town of Stratford where he was reared contained no school capable of imparting the higher forms of learning reflected in the writings ascribed to him. His parents were illiterate, and in his early life he evinced a total disregard for study. There are in existence but six known examples of Shakspere's handwriting. All are signatures, and three of them are in his will. The scrawling, uncertain method of their execution...
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Who really wrote Shakespeare's plays?

Ancient epics inside the Library of Alexandria that were collected from the Sumerians and all the ancient civilizations that spread by trade routes. They were possibly brought by the survivors into europe and rediscovered.
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>>12616
Shakespeare criticism is by and large an index of things not worth saying about Shakespeare.

He has a massive vocabulary, a command of differing high and low styles, and most importantly there's no biography we have that could "explain" his work away. In other words, he's still a mystery in a way that Dante (who did meet Beatrice and wrote from that inspiration) or Joyce (who did meet Nora and immortalized the day she first gave him a handjob) are not. Because we figure, oh Dante or Joyce did...
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>>12616
Lots of Shakespeare history is ambiguous which is why these theories thrive but there is no worthwhile Shakespeare scholar who attributes his writing to any other known man.

Shakespeare was educated in English and Latin and read Virgil extensively. He was very well educated. He was also successful in business which indicates some level of ingenuity.

The quartos that survived, while not source texts, are very close.

Marlowe did not write Shakespeare's plays and this is evident just by reading Marlowe.

Why was decolonization such a disaster?

Wouldn't it have been better to keep those territories, especially in Africa, under the control of their historic empires?
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Decolonization's problem was rushed, and left either incompetent governments or de facto power vacuums in its wake.

Colonialism had to end for many reasons, but it ended the wrong way.
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no because empire was costing Africa immeasurably in both human life and resources and costing the Europeans somewhat in human life and immeasurably in capital. Next Question.
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Were the African colonies even profitable? I mean, christ, I'd imagine working with coked-up warlords has got to turn up a measure more in cash and capital than you could have under a colonial government. Great for private business, probably not as great for everyone else.

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>he quotes Livy
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>He thinks there is an 'end of history'
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>>12274
What's wrong with Livy?
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>>12391
he tended to embellish his works to be readable as entertainment for the plebs of the patricians essentially

he also used the worst fucking sources you can imagine for early roman history like Licinius Macer

he also just straight up made shit up sometimes for whatever reason

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Post your GOAT philosopher and explain why. Personally love Nietzsche. He's come closer to explaining the point of human existence than anyone else i've read anyways.

Not gonna lie, i'm still pretty new to philosophy so if anyone knows any good articles written on him or philosophy similar to his that would be great.
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>>12239
read the meditations of aurelius
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What part of no generals do you not understand you adolescent continental faggot
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Hume.

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What were the final days of the siege of Constantinople like? The Byzantines probably knew they were screwed, what was the feeling like? Knowing the final remnant of Rome was about to fall?
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They were pretty mad at euros for raping them and leaving them for the turks
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>>12205
>>Within the city, the anxiety of the past few weeks had strained tempers to breaking point. Relations between Greeks, Venetians and Genoese - never easy at the best of times - had now reached a point where the three communities were barely on speaking terms. Even on vital matters of defence, every order was questioned, every suggestion argued, every motive suspected. Then, it seemed from one moment to the next, on that last Monday of the Empire's history, the mood changed. As the hour approached...
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>>The procession was soon joined by the Emperor himself; and when it was finished he summoned his commanders to address them for the last time. Two versions of his speech have come down to us, one by his secretary Sphrantzes and one by Archbishop Leonard of Mitylene; and though they differ in detail and phraseology they are sufficiently similar to give us the substance of Constantine's words. He spoke first to his Greek subjects, telling them that there were four great causes for which a man should be ready to die: his faith, his country, his family...
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Can we have a Genealogy General here?

Post interesting things about your family history, make interesting family trees with pic related.

Find some of your distant cousins here at /gg/
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>>12068
My dad was adopted,
all that is known about my mothers side is my grandparents.. I tried looking up stuff before but nothing was found.

this anime was made in 1985
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>>12798
Need any help? I can look up your grandparents in the US census if that's where they lived.
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Idk anything about my family

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/his/ humor thread

We don't have lulzy memes and screencaps yet so let's just post historical stuff we can laugh at
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Early ironclads can be pretty funny, and the Russian Navy is ALWAYS funny
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What caused the Roman Empire to fall?
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http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell
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>>11867
>shit nigga its a surprise it didnt fall sooner
-edward gibbon
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>>11867
the jews

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Ask an actual military historian anything.
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How does it feel knowing that your sub-branch of history is looked down upon by other historians? I minored in History and specifically chose classes run by one particular lecturer, who focused on twentieth century history. One class was called 'The Experience of Modern War,' which looked at the human cost of conflicts such as WWI, WWII and Vietnam. He spent an entire lecture saying that military history is seen as a joke by actual scholars.
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>>11777
what time period/region do you specialize in/has your preference ?
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>>11777
Who was better, Patton or Rommel?

Was the thread talking about the kings and kingdoms (or lack thereof) in Africa just deleted? Why?
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Because this is a bait thread and is /pol/ tier
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>>11709
Janitor was offended and had to delete it. Reminder that he does it for free.
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>>11709
It's a /pol/ meme. End of story.

I don't trust /pol/. How many jews died during WW2?
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6 million :^)
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>>11487
A lot. Now tell me why it's more important than all the other civilians that died during the war.
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Usually you'll anywhere from 6 to 10 million. And yeah never listen to those nutcases on pol

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Did it really exist? Or was Plato making things up?
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>>11453
How long does it take for humans to create a modern civilization under perfect conditions?
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>>11453
Atlantis was made up by Plato to be his example of a perfect society.
It's as real as Narnia.
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>>11518

Once the ball starts rolling, about 4-5 thousand years apparently.

But there has to e some incentive to spark civilization to begin with, or else you just end up with static hunter-gatherer tribes like in africa

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Is religion the biggest influence on history?
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>>11316
Religion has been mainly a tool. For example it has worked as a way to calm the masses and give them peace and has been used as a justifaction for conquest. So no, money, power and other "real" values have had the biggest influence on history, religion probably has been one of the best tools in acquiring them along with the gun.
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>>11316
Absolutely. It has shifted masses, culture, war and land from one point to another and has always been a part of human civilization. Nothing moves humans like religion.
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>>11469
You've got a good point, but there have also been major events caused by ideas present in religion, like, I don't know, the Holocaust?

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