If you put aside all political bias, could you please redpill me on Margaret Thatcher? The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Don't want a /pol/ discussion just the what she has done and set into place in the past.
>>1360892
She's a woman so she fucking sucks
>>1360892
>She was a politician
>OP does not want to discuss politics
Well I heard the Queen can do a great impression of her.
Isn't al-Ghazali responsible for the cultural and scientific stagnation of the Muslim world?
Let's see at his views:
- doctrine that everything happens because God wills it,
- condemnation od rationalism and inquiry of nature,
- condemnation od change and innovation.
Al-Ghazali was so persuasive that most of subsequent Muslim philosophy is basically a discussion over, about or against al-Ghazali, with proponents gaining the upper hand.
Also, Ghazali lived and worked in 11th century - the temporal coincidence with the beginning of the decline...
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Sure was. Funny how occasionalism is dominant in Islam to this day yet never mentioned when discussing Islam's compatibility with western civilization.
>>1360805
>Isn't al-Ghazali responsible for the cultural and scientific stagnation of the Muslim world?
Ghazali, Ibn taymiyya, and more gerenally all muslims scholars who didn't belong to Persia, Baghdad or Al-Andalus.
>>1360805
No. Occasionalism was never a doctrine to begin with, but an exercise in refuting the views of some of his opponents on observation and causality using their own logical tools. He did not condemn rationalism or inquiry of nature either, nor did he condemn change and innovation.
What was persuasive about al-Ghazali was the way he used Greek tools of logic in understanding Islamic doctrine and theology, something which the likes of Ibn Taymiyya condemned. He had nothing to do with the cultural or intellectual...
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I wanted to start a discussion about who you guys think were the greatest military leaders of all time. I didn't know if I should define is as "greatest military mind" or leader, as I feel there is a difference. So you can take it however you want, based on battlefield prowess, organizational, administrative skills, ability to inspire troops etc.
I'm also interested in opinions on which of the traits I mentioned before are the most important for Military success (i know this differs greatly by the period of warfare.) Tech and then tactics I would...
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Genghis Khan, or world ruler devastating invasions of Asia destroyed Muslim civilisations and tilted the balance for the first time in favour of Christian Europe – one unintended consequence of a career that would also change Russia, India and China, making Temujin probably the most influential human in history
>>1360411
>George Washington
>Erwin Rommel
>Leonidas
Such a kind thing for you to alert us from the get-go that this is a meme thread.
And where are my babies Wolfe and de Montfort?
>>1360418
Do you feel that Subutai diminishing his greatness at all? I've read some people who think Genghis wouldn't have been near the man he was without him.
>>1360444
It's not a troll thread man. I was careful to alert you guys as to my ignorance of History, so it wouldn't be seen as so by more knowledgeable people. I know Leonidas is forever meme tier with all the over statements of his badassery, and that shitty movie, but from what I...
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It's Canada day and I've never felt less cheerful. After seeing the way Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, and Edmonton have become and the recent anthem change I feel my attachment to my home country is finally broken. Literally the only thing we have to tie us all together is a sport on ice.
Can anyone think of any historical events since the Korean war that are worth being proud of?
Ay.
>>1359291
Canada is not a real country.
>>1359291
Canadabro in US. Can confirm; morale is at an all time low.
>tfw PK subban is a Nashvillian now
>Axes were never used in combat, unless you consider a tree a worthy opponent haha. Swords? The most popular last resort weapon in history, not used as often as people think though. Spears, now this is where it's at, the most effective weapon to have ever existed. I mean, you can poke people with it!
Why do people take this guy seriously?
>>1362176
Spears and pikes were pretty much the most important melee weapons, though.
>>1362176
Spears where the most commonly used weapon in history. Swords are considered to be the most commonly used by the general population however this isn't true. axes, whilst used they where not a common weapon by any means nor where they particularly effective.
I was under the impression that spears weren't exactly the most effective weapon, just more cost-effective and easier to mass produce.
How do we prevent the Americanisation of history before it's too late?
>>1367450
Crashing the american empire
With no survivors
>>1367450
>being for the revision of history and denying of American importance
>>1367467
Germans would have been defeated with or without the Americans.
Even Britain's contribution was more important.
>we wuz kingz 'n shiet
Well Nubia which neighboured Egypt was a black civilization and 25th dynasty of Egypt originated from Nubia so there were black pharaohs
BUT
they have fuck all to do with ameriniggers who mostly come from countries that developed nothing
so as usual both nigs and /pol/ were retarded
>>1367431
Common knowledge. What is this thread for?
>>1367431
I'm white, but does that mean I'm related to Kings of Europe?
Maybe, but more likely my ancestors were all a bunch of shit and lice covered peasants.
>>1367431
>so as usual both nigs and /pol/ were retarded
[spoiler]The important thin is you found a way to feel superior to both.[/spoiler]
Is time linear? What even is time?
It isn't what but when.
>>1367206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OvltlOA8XE
>>1367206
Time is an illusion that man created to better percieve the order of events as they happened around them.
Seeing as Christianity is cucked beyond repair, and seeing as atheism leads to death, what religion could cause a Western Renaissance?
>Islam
Out of the question.
>Paganism
Based. Strong morals. Too particularist though. Could degenerate into petty bickerings between ingroups and vulnerability to divide and conquer tactics.
We want something that is just enough particularist as to allow for the exclusion of otherkin, and just enough universal as to embrace all Westerners.
>Hellenic Paganism
All the positives associated with Norse Paganism, but with a much larger collection of ancient texts. History of ancient Greece and Rome. Tended to see other people's gods are their own, so easily adaptable. (Ex: Celtic Taranis = Jupiter.)
>Buddhism
Seeks the end of suffering, not of sin/guilt. It can be especially based in the Evolian interpretation, namely that it was an exclusive religion of and for the Aryans. Emphasis on the individual rather than the collective can lead to the same faults are Christianity. Dangerously compassionate. Can easily degenerate into cuckoldry and acceptance of otherkin.
>Thelema
Interesting. Emphasizes will-power. Also endorsed by Evola. Vast wealth of medieval, renaissance and modern occult literature to go with it. Dangerously Masonic, Judaic and Egyptian symbolism could degenerate into cosmopolitanism, exoticism and openness to otherkin. Individualist (see Buddhism).
>>1365139
Some mix of hellenic polytheism and thelema probably.
>>1365139
the west had its time, and its now colapsing and eating itself....no religion can revive it.....if anything the only religion that might unite large chunks of the west might be stupid versions of fundamentalist christianity that might make us slide back
also, paganism isnt a religion, its a collection of religious practices, modern 'paganism' is a naive fantasy
helenistic paganism has no bareing on modern peoples and is too thought of as mythology and history to come back
islam has no real...
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>>1365139
>Islam
>Out of the question
Not quite, according to the founder of Thelema and certain later adherents but that's a long and convoluted story.
>Paganism
Almost a meaningless designation without further specificity. Could mean anything or nothing.
>Hellenic Paganism
I do think the later Neoplatonic and GMP materials are pretty based. If you wanted a group more inclined...
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What's the best model for economic growth right now?
The China model? The Japan/Korea model? Or the post-Communist Poland/Czechia model? Or something else?
I think it is the model of the basic income. Supplemented with work. This sort of thing stands the strongest.
>>1364457
Well if you want to industrialize...
Its state capitalism all the way.
Ur madre, senpai
Tell me about the light eyes gene /his/.
How in less than 10,000 years was this one mutation able to spread and survive from Eastern Europe all the way to Western China, Northwest Africa, and even South Asia? Was there some sort of selective breeding involving eye color that we were never familiar with?
http://www.livescience.com/9578-common-ancestor-blue-eyes.html
The Buddha was even said to have had blue eyes
Light eyed people cucked everyone else.
Also green eyes are better than blue eyes.
>Christian - no denomination supplied
-"One who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ."
(Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary)
http://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=87
The picture where it says "Early Christianity"... pretty sweet.
Even with all the different denominations they all hold a very similar message though the persecution amongst eachother.
Miaphysite formula was approved in the fifth Ecumenical Council.
A non-denomination Christian would be an Orthodox Christian. Those who commonly describe themselves as non-denominational are baptists though who just use the term to give legitimacy to their theology.
>>1363387
What if there was no label and no seperation.
There is no one true denomination because the Body of Christ is not actually divided.
>>1363393
Right, Christ founded the Orthodox Church, not 10,000 denominations. The Church is only called Orthodox because of the countless heterodox denominations that sprouted up.
Was the Greek, Assyrian and Armenian genocide really necessary in order to create the modern state of Turkey?
Also why does everyone nit-pick Turkey? Is it because the genocide is still recent in everyone's minds?
Because Turkey keeps on genociding.
Most places that have genocides get fucked up by it and end up not doing it again.
>>1362594
because they deny it. I don't hold anyone in Turkey today responsible but it is really god damn slimey to deny it was a genocide
>Also why does everyone nit-pick Turkey?
Because most civilized countries admit what they did and apologize for it. Turkey just keeps on denying historical facts like the bunch of backward baboons that they are.
was he really a bad guy?
>>1357413
morality is a spook
>>1357413
Yea
How come the Balkans' history has been such a massive shit show?
>>1356814
Its between the Turkics, Arabs, Europeans, Mongols and every other moving shitstorm.
>>1356832
The Persians, Romans, Russians...practically everyone.
>>1356814
Its only been a shit show recently.
It was great during thracian times.
It was great during greek times.
It was great during roman times.
It was great during byzantine times.
It was great during ottoman times.
It went to shit when the ottomans stuck around too long and denied the Balkans access to enlightenment, renaissance, colonization, industrialization, nationalism, etc new cultural movements.