Haven't been to Fakku in a while, noticed now only if I pay I get to read... wtf. Anyone got other sites that are any good?
http://www.doujin-moe.us
The site that got me into hentai, the site that should lead the hentai revolution
>>4193073
Thank you m8, have been looking for something like this for a while. Site is great
e-hentai.org
>>4193135
E-hentai has everything, but its site design is caters the autistic and 54% of the user-base are Japanese NEETs.
Not the site I'd recommend to a casual.
>>4193150
It's easy enough to use if you read the wiki.
>>4193073
They're thieves in every sense of the word. Charging you for piracy and even charging you for other groups' work that they released for free.
>>4193168
Thieves vs Jews vs Pirates.
I like the match-up.
The thieves have the best site layout though.
If you wanted to legally go after them, then by all means you could try. They're acting within the realm of US law though.
It's Fakku who's trying to screw up the hentai market by forcing copyrights onto highly niche material.
If Fakku has it's way they're going to start DMA'ing g.e hentai to the ends of the Earth effectively destroying hentai in the West.
>>4193150
I think nhentai is pretty good. Has really great site design.
>>4193181
>If Fakku has it's way they're going to start DMA'ing g.e hentai to the ends of the Earth effectively destroying hentai in the West.
They would if they didn't delete the posted Fakku content themselves. They already filed a DMCA complaint against Tsumino. Their main page doesn't show up in Google anymore. The "all tags" page still does, though.
>>4193181
I'm no scholar in US law, but I doubt you're allowed to profit from intellectual properties you don't own the right to. All blocking Japanese IPs does is helping them avoid getting caught.
Also I don't see how you think Fakku could destroy hentai in the West by attacking e-hentai. Wani is already making sure their content isn't up there.
Tsumino.com
Nhentai is breddy gud, not the best search feature though
>>4193071
What happens when a fucking Kike shills full time.
>>4193256
>Tsumino
not too bad, they're improving every month
very small selection compared to most places, but at least they have the good shit
>>4193286
There's over 15000 English galleries. Not exactly what I would call very small. It's just that many Doujins still need parody tags.
>>4193215
It probably is illegal, still, they run a legitimate service and thinking about it, it's probably a question of Japanese copyright law.
g.e hentai is 58% Japanese, while doujin moe is 0% Japanese so this filtering probably does play a large part.
The best way to spread a culture is to let it be fully accessible for everyone regardless of age and income.
Fakku and the Japanese market are more interested in profit margins than spreading hentai to the West.
Fakku, being obsessed with creating intellectual property, would gladdy help the Japanese make a few more bucks at the expense of choking this market.
What the West needs is people actually drawing their own hentai before it's ever able to be constricted and put up to commercialization,
otherwise the tradition ends because no one knows how to access it any-more.
The interest of Japanese culture in the West is largley a product of how much free stuff we've had.
This will end if the population is cut off from said free stuff.
The only time Japan should be able to constrain the Western hentai market is when people are creating their own porn for domestic consumption.
The only way people can create hentai for domestic consumption is if we have a direct access to the Japanese market(i.e free stuff).
QED.
Jacob is the pawn of the Japanese hentai market, who is greatly concerned about the Japanese using Western streaming/picture websites.
They will use him however they please as long as it causes growth for Japanese markets without thinking about their effects on the West.
I would not doubt it if someone told me that Fakku is actually in contact with the Yakuza who controls a lot of the Japanese porn market.
What Japan should be doing is helping their porn get more accepted in the West by actively pushing it, yet Japan obsessed with isolationism and us obsessed with Social Justice will never do this.
Yeah, Fakku's gone to shit. Hitomi.la and exhentai are better.
>>4193071
exhenta is THE site. The rest are shit.
>>4193394
Nope! Tsumino.com are better.
>>4193397
Tsumino is awful and the admins are a joke
>>4193073
doujin moe is garbage and you should feel bad for using it
>>4193403
holy shit, it's 4AM and I burst out laughing as loud as I could.
u wot m8
>>4193150
>but its site design is caters the autistic
You mean its designed to function instead of look fancy? Then yea, you are right. Every other hentai site is made with fancy in mind and only retards like that shit. Anything you use for more than a little bit, you should want function over fancy.
>>4193071
I use sadpanda then google the title so I can a direct for it on hitomi.la to download it right away.
>>4193520
>downloading downscales
>>4193367
>Fakku and the Japanese market are more interested in profit margins than spreading hentai to the West.
>What Japan should be doing is helping their porn get more accepted in the West by actively pushing it
This is exactly what's happening though. Fakku is bringing the market to the West more so than any other company has done in the past. Like you said, this is a market with a commercial industry behind it, so expecting everyone involved from artists to Fakku to work for free is just entitlement.
>What the West needs is people actually drawing their own hentai
Who does even want this? People shit on western artists all the time. I enjoy JRPGs, but I don't want some US publisher to make "western JRPGs." What everyone wants is proper localizations, and Fakku is doing good so far with no sort of censorship (unlike publishers before them).
>The interest of Japanese culture in the West is largley a product of how much free stuff we've had. This will end if the population is cut off from said free stuff.
This is the same thing that happened with anime and crunchyroll. There was practically no legal alternative, so everyone got their stuff through illegal channels. Once it got popular enough to convince the suits, CR enters the scene and are now localizing most of the bigger shows. If you want to support that you now can, but you can still get it illegally if you don't want to pay. No one is going to stop piracy.
>>4193403
It's pretty clear that the latter posts were one (or several) guy(s) trolling around and impersonating if you actually read the thread. The only legit posts were the ones at the start.
>>4193535
>Jacob is the pawn of the Japanese hentai market
And the result of all this is that we now get 50-70 new translations each month at much better quality that anything scanlators could ever provide., and these are leaked sooner or later. The only thing that changed is that some content is gone from the most popular aggregator sites, but it's not like it's gone from the face of the earth if you know how to Google.
It is now less convenient (but far from impossible) to get the scanlated content, and we get a lot of HQ content on top of that (granted you have to pay for it, or wait a while for leaks). At the risk of the inevitable shill accusations, there's an argument to be made for this being an improvement compared to what the scene was like 2 years ago.
If you want to be all doom and gloom and predict that Fakku will shut down every other hentai site, that's a different matter.
>>4193522
I don't mind that much.
>>4193367
>g.e hentai is 58% Japanese
20%, Alexa is horribly inaccurate.
>>4193556
No that's actually correct. Alexa gets numbers wrong, but demographics are generally correct. Ex also has a massive japanese userbase
luscious.net is pretty good
>>4193674
Italy is the fourth one? That's weird.
>>4193674
No, it's completely wrong.
>>4193537
I'm all for decentralization (as inefficiency is really the only protection from DMCA tyranny) but you're deluding yourself if you think Jewcob is doing the hentai community any favors, apart from, perhaps, ejecting himself from it.
Fakku's business model is not sustainable. It seeks to profit from content while destroying demand for said content. It's the 90-9-1 rule. Without the casual masses, where the fuck are hardcore paying customers supposed to come from?
We've already seen the doom-and-gloom scenario with Crunchyroll and the abusive campaign it launched against fansubbing, but they're at least smart enough to leave the bait on the stick.
The real worst-case scenario is that Fakku drags its licenses down with it, continuing to copyright troll any attempts at scanlation even after Fakku itself has stopped releasing.
>>4193717
Yet you contradict yourself by using a web statistic that shows e.hentai is the 35th most popular site in Japan vs Alexa's 109th.
>>4193537
If there's a case that says that Fakku does not have the intention of controlling all hentai on the inter-webs then there's no problem, but he's in league with the big hentai publishers now.
I don't see why he would not want to start becoming the EA of hentai .
>>4193719
>if you think Jewcob is doing the hentai community any favors, apart from, perhaps, ejecting himself from it.
Are you sure you're not deluding yourself? Here's the things Fakku did.
>Allows the hentai community to support Japanese artists and the hentai industry
>high quality scans completely uncensored and more translated hentai which benefits pirates too since they can just pirate it
>Latest translations of the latest popular magazine volume in Japan which also benefit pirates
>Brought Japanese artists from Japan to meet Western fans
>Gets exclusive content from Japanese artists (The skateboards) for fans
>Sells the best physical books without butchering anything from the original and has the best online service for a Western hentai publisher.
>Influences the Japanese market more to bring their works outside of Japan for Western fans
I don't see how this isn't doing any favors at all.
>>4193776
Yeah fakku haters are just dumb.
Before fakku those magazines would each get 2-3 chapters scanlated at best. Fakku releasing the entire magazine, I don't think an entire issue of a magazine has ever been translated into english before fakku started.
>>4193759
Share and popularity are not correlated. Also, the admin of E-H said himself it was 20%. Not sure why you're so insistent on this.
>>4193776
i_wonder_who_could_be_behind_this_post.png
>>4193798
Because it's wrong. EH/EX are huge in Japan, more than any english speaking country
>>4193800
>The admin of the site knows less than me, a random anon with 3rd party tools!
Cool story bro.
>>4193798
The argument is that Japan is the primary viewer of English hentai websites and this is a big issue to them, to the extent that they would use whatever underhanded methods possible to get rid of them.
Wani is no different from Warner. I am more interested in seeing hentai become popular than seeing it become profitable.
Those of us who enjoy creating hentai aren't doing it for the money, we're doing it because it's an art. All artists want is to be appreciated for what they do, while publishers want enough to buy a mansion and do corporate takeovers.
That's why I'm insistent.
>>4193809
>I am more interested in seeing hentai become popular
So that it can get worse?
>>4193820
this
worked out so well for internet and video games
>>4193809
>All artists want is to be appreciated for what they do
They need money too you know.
>>4193820
>>4193834
Are you by any chance uninformed of how the world works ?
Games got to this state because publishers whore out their employees and make last minute adjustments to games.
>EA: Hey Dice, I know you said BF4 is not ready to be released, but we need to beat COD.
>Dice: We really shouldn't do this, our game isn't in a presentable state as yet.
>EA: Do it
>Konami: Hey Hideo Kojima, we heard you don't like our buisness practices so we're going to not give you that award
>Hideo Kojima: WTF
>SJW: Hey, DOAX is offensive to woman stop selling it in the US
>Tecmo: OK
Popularity had nothing to do with it. Heavy commercialization is the issue with excessive DLC and other BS. It's that companies are more interested in selling copies than making a good game.
The very same thing Fakku-Wani conglomerate is trying to do.
>>4193809
I don't see any Japanese artist drawing manga/dounjn for free.
>>4193835
>>4193841
How much free time did Akira Toriyama have when making DB, how much time does Oda have while drawing O.P.
To these people, manga is their life. They're not working obscene schedules just for the money.
>>4193843
They wouldn't do it either if they weren't getting money.
>>4193840
>Popularity had nothing to do with it. Heavy commercialization is the issue
so you are saying if gaming had never exploded in popularity it would have still turned into the cesspool it is today? perhaps are uninformed of how the world works ? because i though corporations have more room to expand the more people buy into their bullshit
>>4193849
Games aren't a cesspool. There are lots of good games, these ones are not made by companies more interested in maintaining the bottom line.
Take EA vs Nintendo. These are both very popular companies with lots of popular franchises.
Nintendo is a company that values its employees. It only hires the best, it only produces games with high quality standards, because to them a game is a work of Art.
EA is a company that buys out other franchises just to turn them over for a quick profit. They're fine with destroying whatever they get their hands on (Westwood, Maxis etc.).
The difference is not in popularity, but the publishers values.
>>4193840
Any comparison to EA is going to be false and bad by default. EA pays devs to make games which *they could not make on their own*. FAKKU is definitely not that. 1:1 comparisons don't work there.
There's really only two major realities which can exist a couple years down the line, either FAKKU succeeds in it's current ambitions, or it bombs:
If FAKKU bombs, and no other site/group manages to complete that objective of changing the western market structure, then it's likely the sadpanda-has-everything reality will continue to exist until somebody tries again down the line.
If it succeeds (or the market just naturally grows a bunch anyway), we get a Crunchyroll story end. This means fan scanlation groups can still exist, just like how independent groups still exist for anime (limited, but existing). Is that a slap to their face? Hell no, it means they did their job well enough that they CREATED a whole market. Say what you want about Crunchyroll, but its success is definitely a double-edged sword. It means things are actually *happening* on this side of the water in a way which can grow the market, as there's better grounding. But at the cost of "but...it was all free before!". If all you want is free stuff, obviously not for you, but anybody who wants larger acceptance for anime (or hentai), this is the kind of changes needed to reach that. Neither of those opinions are wrong, just different. For people too used to things being free which realistically shouldn't be, that end result would be a sucky shock, but hey, money going back to artists and studios in Japan is a great thing, so it's something worth getting used to if possible.
Before I'm called things I'm not, I don't use Crunchyroll/FAKKU, but I can at least understand what their actual goals are. That goal is not an outright bad thing, but it is a $different$ thing than the current reality. If you still want free, welcome to the internet, you can still get anything you want for free either way.
>>4193150
I will never understand this.
How do people find this hard:
Step 1: Login, use an addon/extension if you want to make it automatic
Step 2: highlight manga/doujin, type "english" into the search bar
Step 3: ???
Step 4: WOW LOOK AT ALL OF THAT PORN
You can even type other things into the search bar, just like it's google or something! What sorcery!
>>4193896
The reason I raised this example was to show that popularity doesn't imply bad product. Really you could substitute EA with Konami. Not all publishers are bad, but you don't need to look far to see where they go wrong.
As I said before. I want hentai to part of the standard Western porn repertoire. In order to do this it shouldn't be behind a paywall. People need to become interested in it and make their own. This is only possible if it becomes popular.
Jacob is a top tier online businessman and the smartest guy in Western hentai right now. But his interests are not in line with mine.
I want to promote it. I want to reinvest it in the market.
He thinks that if we appease the Japanese overlords then they'll suddenly want to start investing in America, but that's not going to happen because everyone in America are fucking SJW's.
He will probably go to all ends to appease these artists so 'distressed that people are enjoying their art'.
...My sides...
If you look at anime vs hentai, you're dealing with something very different. CR vs Fakku comparisons don't hold up.
There will always be an interest in anime. It's entertainment, humans want to be entertained. CR has to deal with streaming websites made by 14 year olds so it's natural to adopt their method. They will never win.
Interest in hentai is very limited. It's pornography, humans demonize it, and it's replaceable with sex. Fakku has to deal with e.hentai and some small others. Pretty much the list ends there. They could win legal battles. The amount of people who like hentai really isn't that high.
Sure, you can say that if you want something free you can find it, but this isn't my issue.
The methods that Jacob is using are foolish.
>>4193900
>High entry level information needed.
>Hover feature.
>Site CSS is very 'functional'
>>4193135
>read e-hentai wiki
>see the article about """""gallery points"""""
>turn 360 degrees
>trashman.jpg
>>4193071
nhentai.net
>>4194051
For it to penetrate (heh) the western market *fully* and really wedge itself in there, it needs money to back marketing campaigns, paid translators, middle-men who talk to companies/artists in Japan, etc.
Where does that money come from? ...oh.
"Better" vs "Worse" product is not a state we're currently in, at the moment all FAKKU is trying to do is build a foundation for hentai which actually has the possibility of growing to that extent (through an attempt to make a better product, which in fairness, they are doing well at atm). Again, this is not some "good move", it's a controversial one, which is not better or worse than sadpandahaseverything, just /different/. In order for hentai to ever get past being labelled as just child porn and rapelay, it has to be pretty hefty on marketing, bringing in some legal counsel for when this shit inevitably goes back to court (those SJWs you love enter here). Is FAKKU going to do all of that? Probably not, I kinda doubt their goal is so lofty, but this is the kind of future they're attempting to anticipate and stage for. Agree with it, disagree with it, not my problem. But willfully thinking that isn't the reality is just delusional.
"build it they will come" may be garbage, but that doesn't change that you still need a building if you truly wish to expand and grow. Garage companies don't stay in garages forever for a reason.
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>There will always be an interest in anime. It's entertainment, humans want to be entertained.
Pick one:
1. Anime is not the only method of TV entertainment, if it was alone being entertainment, sure you'd have a point, but it's not.
2. There will always be an interest in hentai. It's porn, humans want to jack off.
I think you're really underestimating the power of porn in the industry as well. "Hentai as niche" is not something to just blindly follow for the sake of "but people dislike porn!". Ever looked at the state of VR right now? Who's prepping, and how much? Porn's big man.
Porn is something many people were reluctant to pay for to begin with, hentai is even higher on the shame scale. Even if you remove that factor, people who hunt down their hentai have been used to finding out how and information circulates quick.
All that's left are lazy people who want a small margin of their overall hentai haul go be slightly cleaner, or the current naive culture of dogooders who indulge in the short-sighted idea of support by throwing money at anything that creates content regardless of the effectiveness of their approach.
All that fakku has accomplished is a small amount of short term profit. It has no long term strategy to keep its content or artists relevant and porn culture overall is still on a low.
If one is to assume fakku's goal is to reach out to a larger audience, then why lock everything behind a paywall? People new to looking into hentai won't know if they like an artist's content and its likely they would be after doujin content rather than original material.
Hentai has the same problem porn faced with digital media and fakku isn't doing anything to adapt to a digital environment. If Fakku sticks to its current business model then H-artists face obscurity behind an inconvenient paywall in a market uninterested in promoting porn culture and reluctant to throw money out for 5 minutes of pleasure. Porn culture is only beginning to see a rise with Western artists fueled on fandom love. The direct communication and interaction with those artists also plays a large focus on why a profit is viable for them.
Profitable hentai comes after cultivating that kind of community build up, right now the market won't be a wider market won't be interested in original content hidden behind a paywall. Like I said earlier, people would be first drawn to fandom works, which hilariously enough Fakku has sworn off from doing.
Without hosting that, all fakku can appeal to are either the lazy, naive or anal niche.
Hentai skateboards are fucking dumb too.
>>4194120
>can't commit to his porn
Never gonna make it anon
>>4194188
>Like I said earlier, people would be first drawn to fandom works, which hilariously enough Fakku has sworn off from doing.
Because it would be illegal. The limited sales of parody doujinshi in Japan is only allowed by the grace of the rights holders. If a US company tried to publish Naruto porn without licensing the IP, they wouldn't get away with it.
>>4194422
That much is self evident, I was pointing it out because it had more to gain by avoiding trying to become a business. Their scope of potential customers was gutted right from the outset and unless external factors happen to spark interest I highly doubt anything can be done to set Fakku apart from most other premium porn sites since the late 90s.
Fakku's decision comes in at bad time because hentai is still drawing interest towards it whilst remaining a free platform. The significance in this can't go understated, it embitters those in the community who are used to the status quo. Thats why I say the main people this will appeal to are those picky about censorship, which is a small margin considering hentai has been largely censored for decades. There is also the excessively lazy who don't prize their money, which exist for every market. Lastly their main draw are those who like to directly support the content of the creators, which is a rising trend with the online community.
The main trend with Hentai artists in the West is as follows: fandom porn or furries. Both if they're utterly degenerate. Either way, the large majority, if not all, hentai artists in the West produce doujin material which gets the attention of fans. The original content tends to come afterwards once an artist has some income or following.
Since this is a growing trend it could have put Fakku's site in a good position given a few years hosting any and all hentai content. Instead, you have that bitter wedge with the hentai community along with a loss of the trending hentai that the newcomers to hentai seem to yearn for. What this leads to is more readers going to sites like sad panda to get their doujin fix, if they get curious for hentai and look around, the bitterness that the larger community hold towards it will be the newcomer's viewpoint on the matter. Normally at that point it would boil down to whether or not their want to support somebody overpowers that reputation (cont)
>>4194555
Since fakku has hidden its content behind a paywall now, theres no chance any new content would have been made available to the newcomer. Now the customer has to decide between buying for content they know nothing about or carrying on with their current sources, which leaves fakku banking off of either good will, guilt culture of the chance that someone who got their rips really wants to support them.
Again, Fakku could aim for a power grab and get support from more publications and dwindle the amount of hentai published on other sites. This poses a problem however, due to more business deals having to be made without any significant increase to the customer base. All it would accomplish is driving another wedge with the community. A new supply with no market leads to failure due to being able to uphold existing business deals.
Another threat to the future of Fakku of they make power grabs is ironically by becoming a foothold to the west. As donation support to western artists becomes more prevelant, artists in Japan will realize they can earn profit from directly on a similar fashion. The content fakku takes away from sad panda wouldn't go unnoticed. Artists could simply seek a means to directly earn money from interested fans the same way Western artists do. Since Pixiv is making efforts to establish an international foothold, along with gelbooru, there would already be a means for them to draw attention to themselves. These sites arent held back by licensing laws either, so individual artist support also becomes a threat to the long term success of Fakku.
>>4194593
One last note: Fakku can potentially pose damage aspect for the hentai community in the long run as a whole. Bypassing censorship laws by expirting Uncensored manga is just trying to cover an infection with a bandage.
There needs to be more of a lobby for revoking the absurd censorship laws plaguing Japan. If the West becomes more sex-tolerant and a market begins to seem more and more viable, it would at least give more of a push on two fronts to remove the censorship in Japan, both from publishers along with cultural influence. If the publishers become complacent because they can ignore this by exporting to Western countries via sites like Fakku, there will be no pressure from them towards the government. Not only that, but it's possible that the publishers would eventually face legal action once the Japanese begin acquiring uncensored hentai. Again, Fakku is purely all about the short term.
>>4194595
You're basically asking for a cultural revolution.
In Japan of all places and for porn of all things.
And do you really think publishers wouldn't consult with attorney's before making that kind of decision?
You must really think they're retarded enough to make a big decision like that without legal consultation.
If anything, the h-lovers in Japan will get prosecuted for having uncensored porn. Which is why Fakku bans all Japanese IPs.
You can't say that you had no idea if you're intentionally masking your location to get onto an uncensored porn site.
How many times does this exact fucking topic appear:
"Hey fellow pirates, *Fakku* is totally legit so I hate it now. Btw what are some competitors that I can DMCA?"
Props for being ruthless, but this entire endeavour is *such* a farce.
>>4193369
Forget Hitomi, It got Wani/Fakku purge as well ('403 Forbidden' everywhere and removed all the Fakku mangakas' works in search results).
Besides Hitomi is not very friendly to smartphones (full of ads and annoying non-stop pop-ups).
>>4193403
DELETE THIS
>>4193536
Yeah, if you read the thread. There's actual proof of the staff being a bunch of hackers and scammers.
>>4195456
Well, it certainly looks that way. Also, I'd like to understand what exactly happened in that thread but I always end up laughing my ass off. I can kind of figure out though.
www.tsumino.com
>>4193181
>If you wanted to legally go after them, then by all means you could try. They're acting within the realm of US law though.
Need to have a "case or controversy." In effect if you are not part of the Japanese company (or own stock in it) you don't have standing to bring a case against them.
>>4194121
my fucking god, this hentai here belongs in /d/
Hentai.ms? Anyone?
>>4193150
I kinda get where youre going with your post but once I started using sadpanda there was no going back, shit I barely go on /h/ anymore lol
