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A client wanted me to put a QR-Code in their frontpage and in the newsletter. Hour long discussions.
A guy repeatedly asking me to make stuff for him, I ask him for directions and he has none. Make some mockups and he doesn't like them, I ask him what he doesn't like and wants changed, he doesn't know. Fucking mongoloid
>>270919
'no no no, don't change anything. it must be same, but make it better'
>those fucking people
made a logo for a client once
made a few mockups
she picked one asks for changes
i make them, still not happy
she keeps asking for new changes
"add this" "remove that"
spend too much time explaining why
some won't work
insistant
make changes atleast seven times
sit with the client, she completely
forgot the first mock ups
chooses one of them, no changes
>first real client ever
>really old tech illiterate guy with thick Icelandic accent and hard of hearing
>really particular about the project and insists on being present while designing to dictate everything exactly
>I'm willingly getting ripped off on price because first client
>only have design desktop so he has to come over to my apartment
>spend several hours (a few sessions) with him very anal retentively designing really shitty looking graphics for teaching his personal life philosophy which he's developed for decades in a journal/binder
>not even something I want in my portfolio
>send him stuff to his email and he has problems finding it so he calls me up to ask me how to find it
>try to talk him through an email interface I'm not familiar with
>doesn't know what email he's using and doesn't even know how to login because he leaves it always logged in
>send it to him several times all caps subject and flag
>calls me again later telling me the colors and size of the file are wrong when he prints them
>next time we meet he shows me a printout of his email as it appears on screen with a thumbnail image from a printer that is obviously running out of ink
>he doesn't know how to download an attachment
>I have to struggle to teach him 95% of all computer knowledge needed to be a successful client
>maybe I don't want to be a graphic designer
We never actually got to finish his entire project. Thank God I had to move away and that was more or less the end of it.
>2009
>send an swf banner to client
>"I can't open this. Do I need Spotify?????"
or
>show web layout demonstration to client
>"This looks good. TOO GOOD. Do it over, a bit uglier"
>>271905
>>"This looks good. TOO GOOD. Do it over, a bit uglier"
This actually makes sense if it has to fit into an exist project/website. I've actually done this to fit in with an existing brand.
"Hey client, we need a vector version of your logo"
"Oh sure thing anon. Is this big enough?
>logo.jpg
"No, a vector file. Like an Illustrator file, .ai or .eps"
"Alright, here."
>logo.png from website banner
"No client, we need a .EPS or a .AI file. It has to be in vector format so we can print it."
"Oh haha sorry anon. Here you go."
>logo.eps
>open it.
>layer1.jpg
>mfw
>>272039
that's a classic. Even worst is when I got to call a client several times and he answers every other days. What the fuck do you need a day and a half to send me the wrong file ? Fuck this shit. I was calm the whole time and then the guy started huffing and puffing like "I don't have time for this". Almost lost my job telling him to gtfo
>>272039
last client I had was adamant on sending him the website logo as a gif - period.
That's because the old logo on his website happen to be a gif and he didn't want to "break anything"
During my on-campus internship the film dept asked us to make a poster for their film festival. We go through weeks of collaboration, iterations, critiques and finally had 5 samples for them to choose from. On the day they were supposed to come in and pick one our print guy finds out not only are they ditching but the department head's high school kid already made one. I think you can figure out which they used and which was the best of what we made.
>>271905
Do you do porn banners?
>>272080
One could argue that while the left looks brilliant, it might look too busy.
>>272080
The left is very artistic, but has shit legibility.
Aesthetically the right is vomit inducing, but it conveys the information in a clear and legible manner.
>>272080
left looks over-designed. lost sight of target audience. right is not very good, but at least reaches the target audience.
>That website logo you designed anon? We need a 600dpi version! For to print!
OK, sure, only how big are you printing this?
>600dpi!
600 dots per inch, fine. Only how many inches? See, 10in @ 600dpi is way bigger than 1in @ 600dpi.
>Why can't you just send it 600dpi?!?
This goes on for a week. . . .
>>272118
just do it in 600dpi, use the same dimensions from the original file, which probably was 72dpi
>oblivious client picks literally first mock up I show him
>then tries to barter me into lowering the price because I did it "too fast"
>>270968
>single letter variable names
he deserves being disrespected for bringing obfuscated code to a presentation
>>272153
It's fucking 'n', probably some loop counter or shit.
Do you "for (int thisVariableHoldsTheLoopCounter = 0; thisVariableHoldsTheLoopCounter < aVariableRepresentingTotalNumberOfItemsInAContainer; ++thisVariableHoldsTheLoopCounter)"?
>>272106
Left is pretty eye-catching but misses the point of psychedelic art. Text should be one color and spaced out a lot more. The multi-colored 'FILM FESTIVAL' line is just painful. Super-boxy graphics for the face feel weird against the flowy text and hair. Who the fuck needs negative space and a focal point.
Right is fine. I like the film strip but I feel I've seen it before.
>>272080
Both are overdesigned and painful to read desu
>Get reffered to a client (employer's friend) for paid work
>Client's in a hurry and needs a logo designed T O D A Y
>That only gives me a few hours, but manage make some designs for logos T O D A Y because they really need it
>Client finds one they like, I refine it and they go with it
>Happy End
>Days later
>Client told employer that they didn't actually like the design
>Told them, "This is something I could've made!"
>What the shit, I did what they wanted in the time they specified and they okay'd it
>Still send email apologizing for them not being satisfied and being open to doing revisions if possible
>Get no response
>Didn't even get paid
>>271813
You should charge hourlies for this type of cunts
>Client is a friend of a friend
>Wants a logo for his small business
>Says he had hired 3 designers previously, but they all eventually stopped talking to him
>Tells me he wants a basic looking snake
>Has to look exactly like a Boa
>Asks for texture and infinity logo
>Give him a snake+infinity logo
>Tells me that's what he said he wanted before, but that's not what he actually wants now
>Finally figure out a design that looks completely different
>Try again-and-again to ask him about pricing
>Avoids the topic by bringing up more details to add and fix
>Go to skill center during high school
>Compete with classmate on every project
>Logo project is in effect
>Classmate creates several unique logos around the same concept
>I draw shitty penguin with brush tool with different color backgrounds
>mfw we both get the same score
>>272277
>>Didn't even get paid
Mike Monteiro's Fuck You, Pay Me should be required viewing for anybody that freelances for a living.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkLVRt6c1U
>>272436
Stop talking to him.
>>272039
Serves you well for not using open standards like .svg or .pdf
>>272650
this
>Follow up on a freelance lead from my college's career center. Send the potential client my contact info, website, etc.
>Receive this email, with all the other applicants CC'd:
Hello designers! Thank you all for responding to my job posting on the [REDACTED] website. As you know, I am in need of a logo for my new business. After looking through your portfolios, I've decided to hold a design contest instead of choosing just one of you. You are all very talented! If you are interested, please submit a design to me by September 29th. I will pay $100 to the winner!
>What the fuck.
>Send this to him:
Please don't treat artists and designers like this. Imagine if someone said "I'll see how I like your home-cleaning services compared to your competitors, and if I like it, I might pay the best one with an insultingly small percentage of what the work is valued."
You posted this as a freelance opportunity, not a competition, and it's insulting to ask for possibly struggling artists and designers to put the time and effort into a project that might not financially benefit them.
Please reconsider how you're going about this, and remember the golden rule.
>Include everyone who was CC'd
>About an hour later, get this:
Please disregard my previous email about the design contest. ...I can assure you that my intentions were not to deceive or exploit. I apologize to anyone that I offended.
>Not much later, receive wonderful validation from another one of the designers:
...I would like to thank [ME] for expressing his unhappiness with our client's disrespect for our profession and our abilities. I also wrote an email to [REDACTED] at some length expressing my disgust the night I received the original email. There will always be clients like this, who treat our professional skills like some sad hobby. It's our responsibility as designers and as professionals to respect ourselves enough to refuse these kinds of schemes. ...always remember that your time and skills are valuable!
>>272436
>"Y'know what Client, i will be needing first part of the total in advance so i can continue, because...".
>>272650
I work with a lot of clients and that is not the issue, the problem here is that the client will never know about that cause most likely the original logo was not properly made or the previous designer didn't provide them with the files.
In tthis cases i offer to redraw the logo obviously for a price, Anon is losing a sales opportunity here.
>>272650
You think my client would have ever even heard of .svg? At that point, I decided to say fuck it and their shit came out pixelated as all hell. I can't really even call them a client, it was a separate company sponsoring the event we were promoting (not the main sponsor, a shit tier sponsor), and their logo was going on the Thank You banner. I don't feel bad about it.
AnyBASED client stories in here? I had one recently, a logo job. The contract was for two initial concepts. We submitted them and they couldn't decide, so they bought them both and used the other one for their youth program. No revisions. Chances are, nothing will ever go that smoothly again in my career. It was like life on easy mode.
>>272080
>3$ "donation"
Is this a thing? As a non-burger I really want to know what this is about, why not just have "entrance fee"?
>>272826
>interrogation marks
What, like from torture?
>>272080
I have no idea what left is advertising. Look at right 2 seconds know what's happening.
>>272770
This whole thread is autistic retards missing opportunities for future work.
>>272826
Because "donation" means you don't have to pay anything if you don't want to, or you can pay more.
>>273411
Fuck that noise. I'm not gonna waste time on a $300 job to vectorize some logo that was garbage in the first place when I have 3-4 original brand identity jobs at $5k+ a piece on deck. There are missed sales, and there are wastes of time.
>>272080
Which is it OP? It could be both lol.
>studying graphic design on a 3rd world country
>finishind in two more years more or less
>make a society with my partner and another guy to do graphic services
<hey I got a client, it's from a sandwich restorant we should go
>ok
>the thing was he wanted a banner for his sandwich shop above his door
<hey we should make different logos and let the owner decide the better
>3 designers making logos, mine's better and got chosen
<ok now let's make the quotation
>you need a pass from the municipality
>oh shit
>we went to talk to the client and he was like "I don't know anything about that, you solve it"
>yeah of course but we need your information
<I don't have time for this I'm too busy
>we couldn't make the quotation so we ditched the client due not coperation of his part
>client keeps calling to my other friend, claiming we are shit
>weeks later his shop was lost because a fire
>>272080
left looks bretty appealing but i can't read shit desu
>get hired as an inhouse designer
>this is my chance to shine
>work my fucking ass off, as in come home with food i bought at the bakery because i knew i was too tired to prepare anything and then I feel asleep in my clothes with those bags in my hand when i sat down on the bed
>helped out tons of colleagues
>never felt so important in my life because here it's almost impossible to get a job at all
>boss gets weirder, more stressed and more and more annoying with each day
>constantly asks for stuff, changes, whatever
>I comply every time
>She has no idea what design means and what looks good, completely clueless
>turns out she still thinks glossy and web 2.0 mirror shit looks "awesome"
>shits on my work regularly, sometimes because of her own ineptitude
>she printed a graphic i made for an email template on a Laser Printer using paint to resize it without keeping the aspect ratio
>screams at me
>i tell her that she can look at it on my computer to see what it is supoosed to look like
>"everyone prints their emails you idiot"
>got fired before I became a full employee (after 4 months)
>moved for the job I described above to a whole other city
>they told me 2 days after I signed a 2 year contract for my appartment
>everybody knew my situation in the office
>her last words to me were "YOU said you wanted to live here."
>jobless without hope for a year now because everyone thinks I must be too bad at my job if I got fired so fast
>>274042
I'm very sorry.
>>274091
Thanks. But please know that I am still working on my skills and writing applications. I am sure I will one day look back at this and lmao (ayyy) about how all of this came about and what a fucked up time it was.
We all fit in somewhere, I guess. And sometimes I think about how it hurt my creativity (my self esteem, to be precise) but mostly I'm over it and some of the situations are just funny and make for good stories. Why not at least have a laugh? That said:
>Japanese qt coworker passes my computer
>sees I am working on invites for the super important football match where all the executives are going to come
>boss is there to check what I did so far at the same exact time
>qt says "That looks amazing!" although we don't like each other that much (different story)
>Turn around and say "Wow, thanks, that's nice of you to s..."
>boss decides she won't have that
>Shouts at qt all of a sudden
>"NO IT DOES NOT. DOU HEAR ME? You will not say it looks good while I am trying to tell him why it is complete shit!"
>qt looks so astonished, it's as if she'd seen siegfried and roy appear out of thin air
>does that cliché "embarassed office walk" on her heels with her folders in her arms, which she has crossed in front of her chest
>The whole room went silent
>she tells me to do it again
>nobody dared to mention it ever again
Another one I just remembered:
>try to talk to the boss after work and during breaks to somehow force her to acknowledge I am a human being
>she has glasses
>mentioned she wanted to get new ones soon, from an online shop
>holds a box with the shop's logo on it in her hands
>I realize she doesn't even know about the company's own incentive programme
>Tell her she gets 20% off using that, even on the order she already placed
>She gets fucking furious and tells me she couldn't care less about those few bucks
>I merely mentioned it briefly and I cannot even begin to understand what the fuck is wrong with that, just shut up nevertheless
>She opens the package
>there's a coupon enclosed that saves her 5 Euros on her next order
>she's like "HELL YEAH, SWEET. 5 EUROS OFF, GUYS!" and shoves that thing in everyones' faces
>try to change subject because it feels so fucking awkward
>say I like one of the models she chose
>she tells me she doesn't need other peoples' opinions
>one second later
>she turns to another coworker
>"How do you think this one suits me?"
>mfw
>>274106
Sounds like a total cunt. I think you are better off getting fired.
>>274108
Definitely. Met a coworker after maybe six months. He had to do my job for about 3 weeks and he told me that he doesn't even have a clue how i could stand that for more than a month. He also told me that I should be glad.
I found it very amusing when he added how they often talked about my situation and how they felt very bad for me. Apparently, they had heard way more than I thought of what she said to me.
Too bad she knew when to shut her mouth and whom she needed to charm. She knew all the right people and is always like that but no complaint would ever change anything.
However, it was kind of hilarious to me that my struggling with her became a kind of office meme there.
>A-at l-least I'm a meme, right guys? RIGHT?
>>274110
>A-at l-least I'm a meme, right guys? RIGHT?
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Milhouse!
