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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Is $300 for a T420 a steal? Saw it at a repair/resale shop while buying a spool of ethernet cable. Should I go check it out? I've never really gotten into laptops
>>54236164
Probably not, where you from?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-Intel-Core-i7-2640m-2-80GHz-4GB-320GB-Windows-7-Pro-/201550818732?hash=item2eed5d6dac:g:XacAAOSwBnVW-Zii
Is only $220 and is pretty much as good as they get stock, without dropping a quadcore processer in there yourself. Only thing is it has an hdd rather than ssd, but for like $80 you can get a 250gb ssd.
I wouldn't pay $300 for a T420 unless it at least had an i7 and 1600x900 display.
I have a Thinkpad T440p and I have various questions about modding it and repair
1. Should I invest into ADATA Premier Pre SP310 64GB mSATA SSD? Would it even be compatible? It's only 28 Eur
2. I bought one of those chinese HDD ultrabays for it but it's missing a bezel. How would I go around removing the original DVD-ROM bezel and placing it on the chinese piece of shit?
3. I had an accident with my TP and knocked out the question mark key out of the socket. One of the plastic clips on the key broke, but the key stays in place if I don't press it. Do I need a full keyboard replacement or can I just buy a standalone keycap for it from eBay? I was in official Lenovo repair centre and they said that I need a new keyboard for 120 Eur
4. If I have to replace the keyboard, will the US version of keyboard work on an EU model of the keyboard?
5. Can I use the trackpad from T450 on my T440p? Using the clickpad for a year now makes me wanna neck myself. It sucks so much.
I found an X220 with an ultradock, i3 and 128GB SSD for like $250, and apparently you get an SL500 for free with it, should I get it?
>>54237160
>x220
>i3
>$250
Way overpriced, the hardware is more important than getting a free dock. Look for at least an i5.
SL500? Like the car?
What are the most recent models that aren't shit? I need something powerful enough to run at least 3 VMs simultaneously for school
>>54237311
Apparently there's a thinkpad called SL500 with a C2D and shit, thanks for the advice tho.
I just found an X220 with an i7 for around that price on a bidding site, I should keep an eye on it right?
Does anyone have any info on old school IBM external HDDs?
I can't find much on them, got an 80gb USB one on eBay for 35$ and it has the old three color IBM logo.
There seem to be very few for sale online.
>Mfw my x220 runs rocket league perfectly on low settings, can probably squeeze in some better graphics too, all unplugged
>mfw it shits itself while plugged in playing tf2 on max low
Lolwat, the graphics in rocket league are so much better too
>>54229946
Better late than never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m74otZqd2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcoPj6ILYA
Basically you're combining the amazing AFFS/Flexview 1600x1200 4:3 screen from the T60 with T61's newer hardware, most importantly the 64 bit CPU, higher RAM cap (8 instead of 3 GB) and SATA 2 speeds.
>>54237428
To clarify: as many ThinkPad technologies as possible and large resolution
>>54237980
T520 with a 1080p screen is a really good machine, and it officially supports quad cores since there's more cooling in it.
>>54237764
it's all about cpu usage in tf2
in rocket league you just have some retarded cars in a small space
>>54237160
I got a x230 with an i5 for less than that.
>>54236164
I got mine for 160 (i5 2520M, 8GB RAM, 350GB HDD) So I would say no.
>>54238055
Maybe I should've said I'm in Sweden, I need the regional keyboard and almost all thinkpads I've found are $250 upwards, there's a guy selling x200's with libreboot for over $500 :^/
Why have[n't] you switched out the cd drive for an SSD?
>Would actually consider buying another thinkpad for the first time in ages
>P40 Yoga
>Not coming to Australia
>>54238285
...you can do that?
>>54237160
>i3
Get an i5 and get ips screen, also 128gb aint shit so don't buy based on ssd specs, better to get one cheaper with a hdd or no hdd and buy your own 250gb-500gb ssd
>>54238118
That's funny, the x230 I bought was swedish (got it for 240€, hence the $250 I said).
>>54238506
Both use SATA, you literally just buy a CD drive shaped caddy for the SSD and throw it in the machine
Does anyone know of a USB display adapters/video cards that support Dual-Link DVI at 2560x1440?
I'd rather go the USB video card route than a DisplayPort ==> Dual DVI for flexibility down the road. I need Dual Link DVI to support my 2560x1440 monitor.
I have a USB 3.0 card in my T420, BTW.
anyone know how i can get a 1080 ips in my t420s?
>>54238793
don't some of the docks for the t420 have dual DP, just get that and go DP-DVI, would be a much more elegant solution than USB video cards.
>>54238870
>dual DP, just get that and go DP-DVI
The T420 already has a DisplayPort port on it, so I don't see how a "dual DisplayPort" dock would help.
The problem is that *active* DisplayPort ==> Dual Link DVI adapters are expensive and won't be useful for anything after this T420 expires.
Sadly, based on my searching, it looks like there is no USB "video card" that supports Dual-Link DVI for 2560x1600 output.
I'm starting to think my best long-term option is just to start shopping for a new monitor that takes more inputs. This Korean X-Star (Samsung panel) has been great, but it's been three years now and there's probably a better option on the market now.
>2016
>not browsing /g/ with two Thinkpads
>>54238972
>Yonah
eww.
>>54238959
well you said you want to keep the other DP port free for expansion which implies that you intend to have more than one screen so a dock with 2 DP ports would give you the future expansion you need. If you were willing to temporarily ditch the express card you could go with a cheap external gpu and adapter for that but i think at that point it might be cheaper to the the active adapter.
>>54238972
running libreboot?
>>54239253
On my X60, yes. :)
>>54239307
nice
>>54239140
>well you said you want to keep the other DP port free for expansion
No I didn't.
I don't want to invest in DisplayPort if I can help it.
Honestly, I have no idea how you got that idea from what I wrote.
How crap is the T60? i just want to youtube and play 15 year old videogames
>>54239376
T60 is decent, if you want 15 year old games you can go down to a t42 even. 32mb of vram is plenty for most stuff that old.
>>54238972
where have got wifi drivers for triskell ?
>>54239977
No drivers. I just changed the Intel wifi chip for an Atheros chip.
http://www.tekmobilitypc.com/#!/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Intel-Core-i5-i7-2nd-Gen-14-Business-Class-Laptop/p/44616445/category=11413747
Are these customization prices legit?
T420 i7 1600x900 8gb ram with 256ssd for 350?
£300 for brand new x240 yay or nay?
>>54240322
edgy
>be me
>T420 is too heavy for daily uni
>order x220 without for 200 euro from ebai
>yeah I can put muh ssd from t420 into x220
>x220 arrives
>SSD from T420 doesnt fit in
>what is this shit?
TIL: there exist different harddrive thicknesses for 2,5": 7mm and 9.5mm
>>54240697
should've gotten t420s
>>54240755
not sure acctually. you don't get t420s that cheap and 12 inch is fine I guess.
Just have to get used to the touchpad, I guess. Or try to get used to clit-mouse instead. Anything else seems to be fine
>>54237505
The i7 X220's are great.
I'm using one right now.
Is a T60 too shitty to use with Gentoo?
>>54241060
state your use case or GTFO
>>54241060
No, but compiling on C2D's is suffering compaired to any i series.
>>54241078
Web dev, including dev environment - nginx, php, git, mariadb.
Possibly other scripted/interpreted development.
Internet browsing, preferably with firefox/icecat
Not taking longer than overnight to do weekly updates, emerge -auvDN world -- this is my biggest concern considering the old processor
Mostly interested in the T60 cause I want to run libreboot but am scared of hardware flashing
>>54241210
That's what I figured, just trying to gauge how horrible it is... how long to compile GCC?
Are W* worth the extra pennies? Seems impossible to get a decent condition Arrandale (W510), let alone Sandybridge (W520), W series for less than £300, here in the UK. Will an Arrandale quad core and nvidya futureproof me for at least 3 or 4 years? Use case: Java dev, 1080p video, kdenlive and gimp fumbling.
>>54241761
W series 520 just has more CUDA cores for video editors and it supports 32 GB of RAM, double the T520. A standard T520 will suffice for your needs.
How come nobody told me there's a patch out now to use the t420 keyboard with the proper key functionality in a t430??
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
>>54241808
Well shit guess I'm gonna look for a W530 or T530 instead of 520
Does it take anything more than a motherboard swap to turn a T530 into a W530?
>>54241918
Read the link. The only thing that's not documented is the part where you have to fuck with the keyboard pins.
FTA:
>grab a schematic to see where they are
I don't even know where to start looking for a schematic or I'd do mine. I have a x220 kbd swapped x230 already and would like to have all the keys work.
>>54241918
shit, didn't mean to quote you
>>54242529
was meant for >>54241808
Does anyone know if a W510 with NVIDIA FX880M is supported by OpenBSD's nv driver?
>>54242529
It gives pin numbers, just count them
>>54243355
right, not difficult if you know what orientation and what is pin #1
Has anyone seen this before?
I got a T420S last week, and have been having stability issues. I thought it was the keyboard, but I have since narrowed it down to the memory.
For whatever reason, it seems that it will not accept an 8GB module in the upper slot. An 8GB module works fine in the lower slot, but if I populate both it becomes unstable. I have tried both 1600 as well as 1333. Same thing happens with both speeds.
I just put two 4GB sticks of 1333 in and it is stable, so I am fairly confident that the upper slot is OK and not damaged in some way. I have updated the BIOS to the latest version.
Is there anything else I could try to get my 16GB? In a little while I am going to try 12GB, but I'd rather have the full 16.
Also, I did not know that the T420S is not a socketed CPU. It is actually soldered to the motherboard. Good thing I got an i7, just wish 16GB worked.
>>54241761
I had a w520 and I personally loved it for work. Just runs a little hot but not enough to complain. The can be a little pricey compared to the T models.
Explain this shit. You guys all said I'd have a trillion hours of battery life with this thing.
>>54245318
Probably really worn battery. Brightness level? Tasks?
>>54241761
Probably better off with a T520 if that's all you want to do. Although I couldn't find a T520 with a native 1080p display. So if the T520+1080p screen cost more than the W520, just get a W520.
So, I have an x201 coming in the mail. i5, 4 GB of RAM that I'll upgrade to 8 GB, and a 320gb HDD. I need a Linux distro that will run well on it. I'm thinking of Fedora, Lubuntu, CentOS, and openSUSE. I'm only going to be doing note-taking, light programming, and shitposting.
>>54245668
Fedora
>>54245704
Figured. Lubuntu just seems too stripped down since I have no issues with RAM. I'll give it a try once it comes.
>>54235962
hello long story short I fucked my t420 screen with some alcohol. I was trying to dry it out.but it got fucked.So I got a placement. now I have no back light. How do I determine if I fucked a fused or it is the cable
>>54241037
What graphics card does the x220 use? Is it enough for old games like company of heroes?
>>54245751
Go for it. I've been using Fedora for such a long time. It's just so damn comfy and everything works. Have fun.
>>54245792
x220 has integrated graphics, hd 3000 i think
>>54245792
>>54245825
Should probably be able to play that. Most old games run just fine on intel integrated graphics. At least second gen and above.
>>54245825
>>54245859
There's currently an x220 on ebay that has:
>[email protected]
>8gb RAM
>128gb SSD
>Costs AUS$389
Worth it?
>>54238285
Just did a few days ago on my T520, waiting on new chinky SSDs for my T60 and T420
Is the X250 dual channel?
>>54245985
That's about US$300. So yeah, pretty good deal. A no-drive, 4GB, I5 x220 would be around US$200 to US$220, so $300 for that one seems good.
I have nothing of value to contribute. Have a shitty picture.
>>54246201
Shit's clean!
>>54244712
So, yeah. It definitely does not like having an 8GB and a 4GB mixed. Lots of beeps and no display. And it still freaks out with two 8GB modules. I guess the T420S just can't do 16GB. Damn it.
I'm trying to get a t420 with a 1600x900 screen but i can only find them on t420s's. How bad are the disadvantages of the t420s compared to the t420?
>>54246468
Well, as I have just found out, it doesn't seem to support 16GB RAM. And the processor isn't replaceable/upgradeable.
Apart from that, it seems like a very nice smallish laptop. Very lightweight and thin.
>>54246468
Less battery life
>>54246565
If you don't use the optical drive you can get a second battery.
>>54246555
I've read that the fan is very noisy and that the battery life is poor.
How true is this?
>>54246579
I haven't really tested the battery. I have been fighting with the memory stability thing all weekend. I am planning on getting an optical bay battery, but it's hard to find a good quality one that's not too expensive.
The fan is high pitched when it ramps up to full speed, but it doesn't stay there long unless you are actively stressing it hard. Not too noticeable.
>>54245415
Not doing too much, battery at 90% but it ordinarily shouldn't drain that fast. I'm guessing it's the battery since I just bought it refurbished.
I found a new thinkpad T420 for $800. IS this a good deal?
>>54247053
No, get a well refurbished T420, you'll love it just the same
Just ordered my first thinkpad, how did I do?
T60 w/ 1.86 Core Duo and 1gb ram for 25$
ordered a charger and caddy for another 15$
>>54247498
Not bad for a machine form that era, I'd collect it just because Core duo was a breakthrough compared to something like an old Dothan.
>>54247498
Best Thinkpad.
>>54247498
You should look into building a t601f for just a bit more power with that delicious 4:3 screen
>>54247560
t61?
>>54248028
T61 didn't have a 1600x1200 screen option.
>>54248028
T601Frankenpad, the sexiest Penryn machine.
Lets say i get a thinkpad, from where do i start cleaning it and how?
Im too paranoid when it comes to this stuff.
Thank god bed bugs dont are a thing here.
>>54248195
Blow the keyboard out with canned air to get the dust out when you get it, then rub the keys and palmrest with isoprobyl alcohol, gets it looking good and smelling nice.
My friend just sold his thinkpad on gumtree. As his friend, i know he's not the most clean person out there. I also know for a fact that that mother fucker uses it for his porn obsession.
Tell me again why you anons just love to buy preowned when you have no idea where it's been or what has touched it?
Whats a cheap ssd for a t60?
>>54248326
Because we will do worse stuff on it than the last owner.
>>54248326
because i buy from refurbishers.
>>54248349
Sandisk SSD Plus.
SP550.
What is the thinkpad of smartphones?
What is the thinkpad of dumbphones?
>>54248497
Moto G/Zenfone 2.
Nokia meme.
Externally, are the x220T and the x230T the same? I found some sleeves and bags for the x230T, but I don't know if my x220T would fit in there. They look the same externally, at least.
>>54248533
My X220T is a bit worn and i've been toying with the idea of getting a new "shell" for it.
Would it be realistic or even possible to buy the outer casing and switch over all components? Would it be cheaper to just buy another X220T in better condition?
any of you /g/entoomen install coreboot on x220? if so how is it? and also in general what are the advantages and disadvantages of coreboot or libreboot on a thinkpad?
>>54248240
And the insides? Im going to change the paste anyway.
Going to get a T60/T61 since i dont have a laptop curretly and i dont want to spend more than $80 on one and blog blog blog.
>>54248630
My refurbished dells were immaculate on the inside, but you can remove or blow out the heatsinks on a thinkpad and clean that out if you're like me and hate dead skin cells of others in your machine.
>>54248326
don't be a germ-a-phobe faggot, every time you touch anything in public there is probably traces of semen on it. Every time you eat out there's probably a cook scratching his balls/ass/nose/ear etc before touching your food. Every time you kiss your girl or your mother there is probably some other man's semen on her lips. get over it bro or go live in a bubble like bubbleboy.
>>54248622
i want to know if casting and 3dprinting shells is option
>>54248810
Probably isnt. But if it was i would have a highly impractical white T420 just for the keks.
>>54248821
I wanna soft color blue shell
no joke
>>54248687
Not everyone wants to live your cuck fantasy faggot. No need to get all defensive.
>>54248810
>>54248821
>>54248893
>tfw this will never really exist
>>54248821
>>54248893
probably wouldn't be that hard to dye the plastic components with rit dye, not so sure about the main body though because its metal, maybe plastidip is the best option for that.
>>54235962
What do I get if I want a 1920x1080 screen, great battery life, and full compatibility with Arch Linux?
>>54248993
Chinkpad T520 with a 9-cell should cut it.
>>54248533
You don't need a sleeve to protect the Thinkpad. The sleeve would protect the world from the Thinkpad.
>>54248906
this reminds me of those 3rd party gameboy shells that chiptune people put on their DMG game boys
kind of why I ask
I mean, if they can sell unofficial shells, why can't you do the same to with a specific laptop?
>>54245318
tlp and disabling turbo on battery
>>54249083
I just keep my 2620m on ondemand and i get 7 or 8 hours out of my 9 cell.
Going to throw a SSD in my Thinkpad.
9.5mm HDD, I need a caddy or adapter for a 7mm SSD right? Or is that the job of the silver drive caddy that already comes with Thinkpads?
>>54249413
Just make a cardboard spacer. I will be find if you dont, but strain on the SATA connector and shit.
>>54249413
Or am I a moron and overthinking the 2.5mm in height difference between the two?
>>54249481
Thank you that's what I was looking for, I'll just through a piece of cardboard in there.
>>54249413
Why not use an mSATA SSD?
Sure you're only going to be limited to SATA 2 speeds but my Windows still boots from POST to desktop in under 5 seconds anyway so it doesn't really matter if you aren't getting the full theoretical SSD speed. Even half of it will blow HDDs out of the water.
>>54249502
you have more options if you go 2.5 inch drive. I would only ever go msata as a secondary drive.
![1415350296237[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IX7gsJu.jpg "1415350296237[1].jpg")
Hey lads, how much better is the t520 FHD display over a t420's display? I hear it has a much better viewing angle. I know it's no IPS, but is it good enough for watching shit on?
How does it compare to an X1 Carbon screen (for example putting an X1C screen into a t420)?
I think I broke the ethernet port on my x230. I'm almost certain I've used it before when I was setting the laptop up initially. In the interim, I've taken it fully apart for cleaning and I think I broke something. No lights when I plug a cable in, and tried another known working cable. Same behavior in Linux and Windows, triple checked BIOS options and it's enabled.
Fuck. I need a Rossmann.
>>54249537
It's much better imo, higher res and better angles. It's a shame there's no 1080p T420. The T520 just a tad bit bigger than I want. T420 size would be ideal, but for now I just deal with it.
>>54249942
Better than the stock t420 or better than the X1C drop-in screen too?
I can deal with 1600x900
>>54250022
Better than stock, never seen x1c screen.
Has anyone had the BIOS error 2100 with an SSD in a Thinkpad? Seems people with different Thinkpads have this with different SSD brands, mostly Crucial I think.
What SSD brand is safe here?
>tfw moved from T420 to X220
>>54249413
>>54249481
Anyone have files to 3D print a spacer?
>>54250588
Describe the feel.
>>54249481
>spacer
when i put the caddy on either size it jest werkz
>>54250588
>tfw 1336x768
>>54250702
Feels good til now. Gotta get used to the smaller touchpad and missing buttons underneath it though.
>>54250718
That might be the only real downside compared to the t420.
I though about getting a better 12" laptop with atleast 1600x900+, but the good ones were too expensive right now.
And since I got a desktop with dual-monitor setup at home that doesnt bother me so much.
It is only for uni and laying in bed anyways
>>54248076
A reballed X61 is the sexiest Penryn machine. P9700 for the win.
>>54248918
>not so sure about the main body though because its metal, maybe plastidip is the best option for that.
Why not powdercoat?
Just picked up this beaut for £300. The think looks absolutely brand spanking new - can't see a mark on it. W510, i7QM, Nvidia FX880, 8GB RAM, 2TB HDD.
The only thing that concerns me is that it came with a 90W charger. Is that enough to power a Quad core Arrandale with a discrete Nvidia GPU? Surely I should have got a 135W charger for such a behemoth?
>>54251590
Forgot pic. Now the proud owner of a brand new X201 and what appears to be a brand new w510. Stoked.
>>54236164 back again, saw a W500 for 330, is this decent?
>>54245755
I too am interesting in this back light issue sometimes when I plug my charger in it turns off so I would like to know where the t420 backlight fuse is located
>>54251982
Penryn is a bit long in the tooth. If you want something that big a T510 or T520 could probably be had for about the same amount or less
>>54251610
>>54251590
Are you NIB x201 anon, I would try and find whatever the lenovo site says should have come with it.
>>54250560
Im running Intel and all the thinkpads I have had my hands on have come with the factory samsung or intel drives.
>>54250560
I have three ThinkPads running on various SSDs from crucial and I've never had an error on any of them. Oldest TP I ever had one in would probably be an X100e. Now I have a T420, X220, and X230 running on a BX200, MX200, and MX100 respectively.
Is £300 a good price for a new x240 (4GB RAM, 500GB HDD)?
>>54252440
Thanks. What OS are you running on them?
>>54249413
>9.5mm HDD, I need a caddy or adapter for a 7mm SSD right?
All thin SSD's I've seen came with a spacer.
I want an ultrabook for Uni:
i5/i7
8GB ram
lots of storage would be good I guess
13-14 inches
touch screen preferred
QHD? do I need it?
Want it to be able to run league at 60+ fps
budget up to $1300 USD
pls help me find the right one /g/
Am I right to say RAM and disk configuration don't matter since they can be easily upgraded? Or should I be more selective when looking?
>>54235962
so, how bad is it to go back to Windows 7 on the x220? Got one for my nephew, fucker formatted Xubuntu and went back to Windows 7 and he didn't even installed the drivers for anything. He did it to use Microsoft Word.
I'm willing to bet that 7 with no drivers vs Xubuntu with powertop/tlp installed will be utter shit with the battery, isn't it?
>>54253773
yeah pretty much. most of the xx20 laptops i have seen have been 4gb ram and 120/160gb ssds. None of these matter because its so easy to change. Screens, batteries and cpu/gpu matters much more
>>54253972
It's really annoying when the seller throws in an ssd or more ram and tries to jack up the price by double that of the ssd itself
>>54237033
1. Yes
2. Dremel and superglue
3. IDK, if it's just the plastic then just get a new key
4. Yes
5. Yes
0/5, use your brain
>when the hard drive is louder than the fans
Its getting old anyways. I'm considering getting a 500gb ssd to replace it instead of getting another hard drive (i already have a 250gb one for OS and shit)
>>54254172
just do it. I'm running a 480gb in my x230 and its more than enough for normal usage as this is my second computer. Still plan to throw an MSATA drive in there for more storage though.
>>54254211
Yeah, really i could just take out the spinning rust (which is completely on old-age/pre-fail) and use the 250gb msata, but i would need to figure out how to get /tmp onto the ssd because i put it on the hard drive along with al my shit.
>>54254255
clone the drive. not that hard.
>>54247560
Are you running the machine with the 2503 dock?
If you are did you have any problems to get the gpu working with more than 2gb's of ram?
t. soon a frankenpad owner
>>54247560
that doesn't look like a x220
>>54253122
Anyone pls
>>54253122
based on currency conversion and aud prices it seems reasonable. The trackpad on those are terrible though and you may want to swap it with the x250 one.
>>54254141
I asked here because I wanted a confirmation if it will work
I actually done a small research after I left work today for the SSD and It won't. I need a 42mm M.2 SSD
I don't want to wreck the DVD-ROM with dremel since I would want to reuse the bezel on the DVD-ROM once more
Now where do I get a new key?
>>54252141
Yup - that was me too. Apparently the W510 shipped with 135W power supply... So I've emailed the seller, hoping he'll send me the right one. They're bloody pricey on ebay or Amazon.
>>54250560
All I get is "kvm disabled by BIOS" every boot. Same OS as you.
>>54250769
Use the clit. I have my touchbad locked in place and disabled in BIOS. Once you get used to the clit, you never go back.
Opinions on E540?
So which trackpoint is your preferred trackpoint. Mine is the Classic Dome due to the texture and size as it lets me move the pointer around quickly and accurately with very little effort.
The Soft Rim is up next due to the shape which lets my finger sit in it but it lacks grip, I think some grip tape or maybe even a bit of sand embedded in with superglue could solve that problem.
My least favourite is the Soft dome, I like the surface and wish that the Soft rim had the same texture but the convex shape I find less accurate than the other 2 and easier to slip off.
>>54255762
I prefer soft dome. Classic was faster but was starting to hurt my finger after a while.
>>54241808
>>54242529
Neat. Somebody updated the thinkwiki with a schematic. Page 63.
>>54255762
Soft dome, classic feels a little less precise to me and soft rim feels like downs syndrome.
Should I use Expresscard or mPCIe for my eGPU setup on my T420?
Which one would be theoretically faster?
Could I combine both to increase the speeds?
>>54256683
Does anyone have experience with
http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html
How can you plug in a PCIe device through HDMI? and can you plug both expresscard and mPCIe to this?
Would my t420 be safe in a basic jansport backpack?
>>54237033
I'd double check on that first question, since T440p should have m.2 slots instead of mSATA, like a T430 would have
How shit is i3-4000M CPU, it has 4600HD iGPU ? I know it will be enough for using computer normally, but occasionally I'd like to play CS:GO at at least 768p, low settings, playable fps
Also in general, is i3 automatically terrible or what ?
>>54248326
I bought my x220 while I was working at a refurbisher for a while. Picked the best one they had and got it for real cheap.
>>54257048
pe4c is shit. Get pe4l.
I know some of you spergs put tons of stickers on your ThinkPads. Where do you find them or how do you search for them, I don't want anything specific, just to browse options that aren't concentrated memes like googling "stickers" or some shit
The refurbished T420 I bought just came in, first thought is it's fucking filthy and it looks like two of the lenovo logo letters were glued on at the top. There's also tons of shit in the speaker grill, it can be taken out and cleaned right?
>>54258002
> but occasionally I'd like to play CS:GO at at least 768p, low settings, playable fps
It's not going to be very well. Probably expect around 30fps.
>Also in general, is i3 automatically terrible or what
Yeah, you should at least go for an i5
>>54253223
Windows 7, 8.1, 10, and various *buntus, mint, I tried arch once, and Debian.
>>54258002
I have a third gen i7 with Intel HD 4000 and I can only manage ~20fps.
What would I use to use an SSd as external?
Anyone try that or use SSD docks or whatever? Just wonderingOr are the hub trays easy enough to just put in an dout
>>54258254
>>54258238
Bummer, one friend with T430s and some kind of i5 runs it pretty well, given he plays at I think 800*600, which I assume would run pretty fine on mine too, but another friend with some DELL runs it at 768p with what I assume is 4000HD and he says it runs fairly fine for him. I still don't think either hits 60fps though
>>54253521
>touchscreen preferred
Do you have a vagina?
Anyway to increase the responsiveness of my x220t keyboard?
Could a white wire that seems to feed from the fan alongside a black wire and a gray wire but unlike those is loose and doesn't go anywhere be responsible for my T500 seeming to idle at 70°C and hike up to 90 whenever I do anything on it? Or is it the fact that my roommates all smoke?
Is $340 for a T440 good? It has an i5, 8gb ram, and a 160gb ssd
>>54259069
Pretty good deal for a T440 there.
>>54248993
Eh, I'll buy a Chromebook instead of fucking with replacing the screen.
which dell laptop should I get? Most demanding activity I use my computer for is music production with an external audio interface
I was looking at the latitudes but I'm worried they won't be powerful enough? I'm put off slightly by the price of the precisions but could shell out if needed
form factor isn't hugely important, I don't need an ultrabook, but would prefer 12" over 14"
thanks in advance
>>54259202
A 12 inch laptop is gonna limit you, the Latitude E6420 is plenty for your needs.
>>54259253
thanks for reply
would you still recommend the same one if I were more open to a 14"?
>>54259282
Yes, the sandy Bridge laptops are absolute beasts, and the 14 inch E6420 is Dell's most portable full featured mainstream notebook.
What's the best way to clean the top lid of the thinkpad? Mine has scuffs on it.
>>54259346
3:1 70%+ alcohol to water
>>54259346
Well cleaning is easy as fuck with rubbing alcohol, but to get rid of scuffs, idk, I guess it would depend on the material it's made of
>>54240697
>>T420 is too heavy for daily uni
everyone point and laugh
KEK
>>54240697
>too heavy
wew lad, are you studying arts or some faggy bullshit ?
>>54259314
I looked it up, I was really thinking of buying a new laptop, where I live there aren't many options for secondhand and those that do sell are either expensive or shady
is there a slightly newer model of this laptop I can get?
>>54259469
There is a newer Haswell E6440 Latitude.
>>54259492
wow, as E6400 guy, do you by any chance have experience with it?
>>54259521
Not with the E6440, but Latitudes in general are very solid, premium feeling laptops, and they are reliable.
>>54259314
>>54259627
the availability of the E6--- range is limited on my country's website, it seems to redirect to the US one
what's the general opinion on the E5450?
>>54259698
E5450 is the succesor to the E6000 series, I know it sounds weird, but the newer E5000 series is their mainstream laptop, it's exactly like an E6000 series, and I recommend it.
>>54259750
alright thank you, this makes a lot of sense
I like the look of this laptop
the cheaper one with i5 cpu appears to suit my needs, is there anything I should know about a weak model?
thanks for the info so far
>>54259824
That i5 is gonna handle just about anything you throw at it, especially audio-wise.
>>54259883
>impersonators
Dang.
does the t450s supports RAM up to 20gb?
>>54258242
Thanks.
I'm thinking of getting a BX100 for my X201T and I hope to not ave any issues.
>>54259883
>>54259902
Disregard, real E6400 Guy here. I'm only into beast.
>>54258724
That extra wire may be for a WWAN antenna(?) I'm assuming you have two already attached to your WLAN card.
>>54259986
>real E6400 Guy here
>>54259986
>real E6400 guy here
>>54260037
Just havin a laff, m8. You're a tolerable namefag and know your Dells.
>>54260178
Ha, Thanks.
>>54259845
thank you
>>54258040
Why do you say so?
pe4l is also small and only has a x1 lane. instead of the full x16 slot most gfx cards use
>>54259069
Just make sure you get a t450 touchpad for it, it gives you physical buttons back
>>54259069
That's a steal, that's what I see t430 go for
Does anyone know where I can get a new condition T420 palmrest?
>>54240697
>too heavy for uni
U wot m8. I lug around a 7lb laptop for uni. I would love a 4lb one
>>54254367
Yeah, the Thinkpad Advanced Dock. Everything pretty much just werked in Windows, but I don't think Linux quite knows how to deal with a detachable GPU.
So my soon-to-be-mine thinkpad has stopped in more countries within a week than I have in ten years.
How can they be this slow
>>54260205
Hey e6, is $90 for a complete (charger, hdd, all that) E6400 in good condition a tolerable price?
Not looking for the absolute bare minimum price if it means I have to put my faith in a fixer-upper, but I'd rather not get jewed out
>>54261823
What are the specs? $90 is a pretty good price for E6400s these days, I paid $150 for mine back in January 2015.
>>54261650
looks like it's going by train
https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/sys/5492126456.html
Should I nap this T410 with an SSD upgrade for $70? Is there a good reason to not, at this price?
Just want to use it for MC office and shitposting.
>>54262000
Holy trips! that's a good deal, just make sure you don't get killed.
>>54262000
>>54262010
Was a scam/ad.
Never mind.
"Hey Anon-kun,
I'm sorry to say i sold this to another guy. But i wont hide where i got it from. I picked up 2 brand new ones for under $70 from beepenny()com
It's very easy to win. The trick is to bid only when the counter hits 4 seconds.
Best regards,
Kelly"
Oh well.
>>54262123
Son of a bitch.
>>54262149
I was excited too. Damn
>>54261850
It's got an 80gig HDD. Don't know much else than that- Amazon sellers are oft woefully nonspecific.
Thankfully, the computer it has to replace is a loaner x131e, so practically any e6400 is gonna blow it's ass out if the water.
>>54238467
P40 seems like it doesn't have a very good niche, what is it good for?
>>54262204
Yeah Amazon seller's don't give you much info, I got mine from there, I'd say go for it in good condition, the E6400 blows away those underpowered lenovo AMD notebooks.
I'm looking at a Thinkpad X220 with i5-2520M, 4GB ram, 160GB SSD, Lithium Ion 9-cel for $230 AUD. Whatcha think?
A t40 that needs a hard drive for $20.
Worth it?
What about a thinkpad x220 Intel i5 2.5ghz cpu, 4gb Ram, 500gb Hard drive with a borked battery for $80?
>>54263600
the x220 sounds like a better bet, more modern and easier to use
What makes think pads so great?
>>54263827
Great hardware for cheap, will last you years.
>>54255762
classic
>>54262237
For someone who needs a dGPU on a tablet...
Not many do.
![Thinkpad-T520-palmrest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ZtfJtTn.png "Thinkpad-T520-palmrest[1].png")
>>54263827
Cheap as fuck, great ergonomics and functionality-first design, great linux support, indestructible, easy to find parts for, easy to find in general
I can't think of another laptop with a sloped/rounded palmrest edge, as someone who programs a lot I am very thankful for that shit, I only wish the x220t had that
Thinking of getting a W530 with a Quadro in it cause I do a lot of CAD shit as an engineering student
Is the battery life any worse than say a t420 if Optimus is on 99% of the time? For example if I only do CAD work while plugged in, will it be about the same? Or does having the Quadro at all kill the battery?
what all can i put in a t42's mini pci bay? can i put a tiny ssd in there? SD card reader? maybe a small drawer?
>>54264634
a joint.
>>54264634
>tiny ssd
Not a chance, it doesn't support mSATA.
If you really mean the miniPCI and not the Cardbus slot, you might get one of those MR15 cards (miniPCI to dual miniSD card) to work. It worked in my T60 anyway (never tried it before whitelist removal, so YMMV).
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2CZ4XI/?tag=komponelektr-20
Best advice though, is to not stick things in holes that you don't need. They just drain power, which is going to be at a premium on a T42 if you're not chained to the wall.
What is a great distro or DE for a T420?
Would something above xubuntu or xfce4 be well? perhaps gnome 3 ?
>>54251610
>hasn't peeled off the windows sticker
