Previously on: >>53957687
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL) - Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
> Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
> Filepicker pasta (GTK2 only!):
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
Ok well, I installed Arch and some weird shit is going on.
For some reason these bars, whatever they're called are kinda messed up and have no sliding thingy. Kind of annoying for adjusting audio and such.
Anyone know how to fix this shit or what caused it?
Last thread some guy got this idea; reposting it:
> https://neetco.de/apt-get/flt-guides
> Link me to a (useful) guide, and I'll add it (or simply submit a pull request if you're okay with creating an account on neetcode).
>>53965553
Try a different theme.
>>53965569
Yep :(
Looks like it doesn't work with numix-holo for some reason. Shiet.
>>53965499
Which one is absolute madmen?
>>53965440
Not really related, but what do I have to put in my userChrome to set the backgroundcolor while loading a site? It kills my eyes every night when the bright white explodes all over me.
>>53965604
>It kills my eyes every night when the bright white explodes all over me.
You might want to rephrase that
>>53965604
You're lucky. I have a fix. Don't know if it works in userChrome; I'm using it with Stylish:/*
Fix for white flash on new tab.
*/
tabbrowser tabpanels, #appcontent > #content {
background: #111 !important;
}
Enjoy.
>>53965639
I don't think so :^)
>>53965645
This doesn't work in userCrhome senpai, but I'll look into stylish then; thanks.
>>53965676
Try adding:/* AGENT_SHEET */
@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
Above the code.
>>53965683
Nice try m8
>>53965701
It's legit buddy. You can't change some browser stuff without those lines.
Anyone up for creating a zsh pasta (that doesn't suck)?
Heads up for people having VSync/Screen Tearing issues using NVIDIA drivers and a DE like KDE or possibly others:
Install the nvidia-settings tool, generate a default Xorg configuration file, then follow these instructions:
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Simple_fix_for_screen_tearing_-_nVidia
If you have multiple screens like I do, and you want to prevent screen tearing on both, you'll need to do this for example:Option "metamodes" "HDMI-1: nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }, DVI-D-0: 1920x1080_60_0 +1920+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"
Basically repeat the instruction for both screens.
>>53965852
Or just install compton. :^)
>>53965900
I didn't know about that, but directly fixing the issue in the driver configuration seems better than having to use third-party software, right?
Also, wouldn't Compton interfere with KDE's native Composition features?
>>53965900
I'm really curious though, did you try using Compton and the KDE Compositor at the same time? I'm not sure how that would work.
>>53965499
>firefox is gtk3 now
Useless.
>>53965584
Because:
>you're missing a theme engine by judging from that image (that looks GTK2ish and they require extra engines)
>your numix spin off was probably updated in 2012 the last time and obviously not working with the latest gtk (3.20)
>>53966048
Nobody cares. Just use Chrome.
>>53965440
linux is not tech, it is a set of instructions and a language. Please delete this thread.
>>53965553
Dude this is because of gtk3's recent update to 3.20 it broke nearly all themes. Install the default-gnome-themes and enable Adwaits for GTK apps in the Application Style settings/by manually creating the gtkrcs/by using lxappearance.
>>53966048
Not everyone is usng Mozilla's Firefox.
GTK2 only is mentioned.
Your post is useless.
cat /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.pacnew | sed "s/#//" | rankmirrors -v - > mirrorlist
Alright got Debian installed, bare as I could go given the netinstall kept failing.
Now I had planned to use LXQt and i3 as my two desktop environments.
But have not found very promising instructions on how to set them up or how compatible they are to Debian. Several pages have big scary warnings saying LXQt will break stuff and i3 info acts like it is so simple to install that instructions are not needed. If they aren't stable and don't simply work then I may need to reconsider using them.
Any suggestions? I thinking about just trying apt-get install and seeing what happens, but would rather not do something so reckless.
>>53966859
https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-started-i3-window-manager/
Replace dnf with apt-get I guess. It's really a good intro, it got me started into i3. No unnecessary shit, just simple what to install, why it's for, and how to use it.
>>53966859
apt get install i3 or whatever the correct command is. It is simple.
>>53966859
Why do you need two desktop environments? I am suspecting something, but I'm not going to write it out since it will probably hurt your feelings and it's mean.
>>53967241
I have 4: xfce, lxde, cinnamon and gnome
why? because I can
>>53967343
That seems counterproductive.
>>53967343
That can cause conflicts with configs, just to warn you that if it breaks then that's probably the reason.
>>53967382
I've been rolling this way since 2008 with GNOME and xfce, added lxde and cinnamon to the mix later. never had any kind of problem, because I don't use a derpy distro like arch or debian testing.
>>53967369
why? I dont feel like using the same DE all the time.
>>53967408
It has nothing to do with the distro, it is the basic way that DEs work. If you know better though then carry on and have fun.
>>53967427
>it is the basic way that DEs work.
do tell: how and why should it cause conflicts?
>>53967382
What?
How will one de/wm settings "conflict"
They each have their own named configs
>>53967474
Don't worry about it hun, carry on, you know best.
What's the best mediaplayer? I'm looking for something like MPC-HC.
Also is there something like an unified config project? I was thinking symlinking every configuration directory to a sane default with a proper name -- I'm sure some people attempted to do this already.
Also anyone know when KDE will get around to updating Breeze themes for gtk 3.20?
>>53967504
>de only uses configs named after the de
>>53967408
>why? I dont feel like using the same DE all the time.
That's what makes it seem counterproductive for me. The point of the environment is to make it convenient for you to do your work. Using multiple and different set-ups while constantly switching between them means you have to memorize more shortcuts/ways to do something.
>>53967474
I'm not him, but I can see it messing with things like: locale settings, input device and Xorg configuration. Basically all the common "low level" configuration, not stuff like application settings.
Just recently I stumbled upon a thread where some guy had keyboard layout issues and it turned out one of the desktop environments was modifying his manually edited config file.
>>53967531
xfce uses .xfce
lxed uses .lxde
cinnamon uses .cinnamon
gnome uses .gnome
I fail to see your point.If you mean globally set files in your user dir such as xinit,xresources,bash/zsh.rc
They dont matter to the de/wm you're going to use
>>53967527
>Also anyone know when KDE will get around to updating Breeze themes for gtk 3.20?
Whut?
>>53967527
I have no idea what you are trying to describe. Configs are often put in ~/.config under the name of the program. I think that's fairly unified and proper.
Free Software Free Society: Selected Essays of Richard M. Stallman, 2nd Edition
Download: https://www.gnu.org/doc/fsfs-ii-2.pdf
>>53967559
gtk3.20 broke breeze-gtk theme versions. They don't work since everything is deprecated. So now I have to choose Adwaita or whatever default theme so my Firefox look doesn't break.
>>53967560
That might be if you are only using a few apps. But many applications simply use ~ as the config path, and not ~/.config/
>>53967555
Oh dear. Those DEs use more tools than what those directories contain. But carry on hun.
>>53967527
Yes, it's called XDG_CONFIG_DIR. Programs which don't respect it are your problem. Personally, I wouldn't bother with symlinking all the random ".program_name" directories somewhere else. The only ones which stray from the .config directory on my side appear to be Firefox (Mozilla stuff), QuodLibet and GIMP.
>Also anyone know when KDE will get around to updating Breeze themes for gtk 3.20?
No idea, but since this is a major change, expect it to last longer. On the bright side, expect way less breakages in the future.
>>53967577
I know they are my problem -- that's why I am trying to fix it with the symlinks, or well I was considering it.
Thanks for your reply!
>>53967572
>That might be if you are only using a few apps. But many applications simply use ~ as the config path, and not ~/.config/
Yes, that is true. How would putting a symlink there instead change anything?
>>53967574
Oh hunny. DE/WM specific files are native to them.I can use i3,fluxbox,openbox all at the same time,and they wont shit them self at all.
>tools
Right so they will modify the programs in your DE.
>>53967594
It wouldn't make the folders disappear of course, but I could decide that I want to have a nice overview of all my configuration directories in some unified way and then for example open ~/.uniconfig/ and go from there -- if all symlinks lead to that directory at least.
It was just a silly idea.
Hey guys. I'm the anon from the previous thread that had problems with the NVIDIA drivers on Debian, causing shutdowns to hang
Like was suggested by some anon, I filed my first bug report (I'm sort of new at this) and one of the maintainers got back to me this morning
He said:
>This looks identical to a problem I had a while back, and backtrace is
very, very similar. I'm fairly sure it's nothing to do with our
packaging or Debian in general, but it looks like an upstream problem,
so I reported it [1].
>Do TTYs work for you? That was another symptom, and I ended up fixing
the first problem when I found a solution for the TTYs.
>Turns out I needed to configure grub to use VBE.
>After adding this to my /etc/default/grub:GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080x32
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="keep"
GRUB_VIDEO_BACKEND="vbe"
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"
GRUB_FONT_PATH="/boot/grub/fonts/unicode.pf2"
>And running "sudo update-grub" and rebooting, both problems went away
from the next boot.
>Could you please give this a shot?
>Kind regards,
>(his name)
>[1] https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/852598/34x-35x-freeze-at-reboot-shutdown-rcu_sched-self-detected-stall-detected/
And in a short email a bit later:
>Sorry, forgot one very important part, I also have the following in the
kernel cmdline:GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vga=normal nomodeset"
>I looked up my notes, and either the GRUB/cmdline configuration or just
disabling the integrated Intel card in the BIOS solved the issue that
time. Just tried again and it's still the case with the very latest
NVIDIA drivers.
So in order to not embarass myself - I wanted to ask you guys, what does he mean by 'TTY's working for me'? How can I check if they are?
Thanks guys
I am thinking of getting started in an artificial intelligence project. I think about using caffe, but it requires a CUDA to run in a reasonable amount of time.
Which GPU could I get that would work smoothly with linux?
>>53967618
TL;DR version:
How can I check if TTY's are working for me on Debian?
What do the changes he suggests I make to my GRUB config file do?
>>53967608
Are you really this naive?
Jesus. Have fun with your computer bud.
>>53967636
>CUDA
This works best with AMD cards desu
>>53967615
A lot of people do that for uploading to github but I don't like it personally. It's an option at least.
>>53967643
What are these magical config files that your DE/WM is going to modify that will REK YOUR SHIT UP on another de/wm
Protip:There are none
There is not a single config file that is going to shit up another de/wm
>>53967657
Just ignore him if he isn't giving any concrete examples. It's just shallow trolling and obviously it worked and has been working for you. His argument have no basis.
>>53967657
>I have no idea how a desktop environment works or what it consists of
>>53967657
Again, I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but see this >>53967536.
Guys stop fighting and help newbies out
>>53967703
>i have no real reasoning so ill just mock and not provide facts.
>my .gtkX are in my home folder
>my fluxbox settings are in .fluxbox
>my openbx settings are in ~/.config/openbox
>my i3 settings are in ~/.config/i3
I can load all of them interchangably.
I can work on my openbox setup while im in i3 and then load openbox, which i can then modify my fluxbox settings.
NOTHING WILL CRASH
What should I do now that I can't use my favorite GTK theme because it breaks Firefox?
That's why I hate updating. I hope it gets fixed.
>>53967751
stop using arch
>>53967747
You've just been given an example, stop getting angry.
>>53967765
Not a single file has been named
"desktop enviornment"
Which isnt a single file
>>53967776
>I'm not able to read replies
Are you still drunk from last night?
>>53967751
Install firefox-gtk2
>>53967747
>you have X11/xorg.conf.d in your /etc directory
>you have samba/smb.conf in your /etc directory
You might also have other files which are all accessed by your desktop environments configuration tools and overwritten by values stored independently by each environment on startup.
>>53967751
You use Adwaita, a theme which works, until your theme gets updated.
>>53967794
Sure he might also have a talking monkey. Stop trolling you stupid shit. Either give concrete examples for a scenario where this failed for you or stop this lunacy.
>>53967803
>I've never seen something so it doesn't exist
You're a Trump guy right?
How to record system audio?
>>53967751
Use Fedora instead, so that when Fedora gets 3.20 in June, there will already be updated themes (and if not yet, wait a month before upgrading to Fedora 24)
>>53967814
You have no basis for your arguments, you aren't fooling anyone.
>>53967818
audacity or ardour
>>53967824
ok anon, go have a lie down, seems like you need one.
>>53967784
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>>53967794
Those global configs have nothing to do with DE/WM's
>X11
You dont even need a xorg.conf anymore.And if you did it would be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
>samba
Again why would a DE/WM need to acess this? You need elevated rights to even change them.Why would your DE/WM have elevated rights? Running anything as root...
>>53967803
Here's a substantial example:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210995
KDE modifying the fontconfig file, overwriting your manual changes.
![ascii-website_thumb[8].png](https://i.imgur.com/UxPd9mB.png "ascii-website_thumb[8].png")
>>53967241
What were you thinking? I doubt it could hurt my feelings.
My reason is I am slowly working towards the most minimal setup I can handle. I grew up with Apple level GUI and have been slowly learning how to take back control of my computer. As powerful as CLI is I don't use my computer aggressively enough to drop the desktop entirely, also have no idea how to watch anime from CLI among other things (although that star wars movie was awesome). So having two allows me to try i3 while still in the safety net of LXQt. I know LXDE and the newer Qt stuff is already replacing many things in the future pipeline, so jumping to LXQt seems inevitable at some point.
>>53967839
>Those global configs have nothing to do with DE/WM's
They do. How do you think GNOME or KDE change your keyboard layout? Via Xorg config files.
>You dont even need a xorg.conf anymore.And if you did it would be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
First check what kind of config files are in there, before making statements. Personally, I have a file which changes my keyboard layout and a few settings, a file which configures my touchpad and another file which admittedly is very likely to be touched by a desktop environment.
>Again why would a DE/WM need to acess this? You need elevated rights to even change them.
Because the file manager which comes with your desktop environment has a simple GUI frontend to create and modify Samba shares.
>Why would your DE/WM have elevated rights? Running anything as root...
There's plenty of graphical sudo frontends and also polkit (with its GUI authentication managers). You're either pretending to be retarded or actually not aware of this.
>>53966934
That is more helpful then most things I have found thanks.
What distro do you run it on?
People seem to say just run it on Debian , but it is not mentioned in the Debian pages I have read. So I worry a bit on compatibility, but can't think of a reason they shouldn't work well together.
>>53967880
>layout
setxkbmap -layout us
>xorg
Well aware of what files are within the directory.
>file manager
You should have proper udev/pam rules so you can mount them without su.
>gksu/kdesu
This is not running the file manager as root fulltime.
>>53968065
>setxkbmap -layout us
That's okay, if you don't want a global, permanent setting.
>You should have proper udev/pam rules so you can mount them without su.
Mounting Samba shares isn't the issue. It's editing the Samba config, which all the various front-ends might do. The problems start happening when one environment caches its settings somewhere else and then gets confronted with different things or even worse, re-applies its own settings over those set by another environment.
>This is not running the file manager as root fulltime.
And why would you run the file manager as root full time?
I'm not even the guy you were arguing with initially. Do what you want, but don't say that it's completely impossible to face issues this way.
>>53965440
>falls for the /g/ meme
>installs openSUSE on shitty backup pc
>install goes through, yay.jpg
>intent was for dual boot
>realize i deleted some partition shit
>can't access my 4 years of memes
Where did I go wrong?
>>53968148
a) fuck off tripfag cancer
b)
>installs openSUSE
/g/ never told you so
>>53967939
I ran it on Fedora. In theory it should work on every distro, I guess.
>>53968173
/g/ told me to install a BEGINNER linux distro.
I am just here to know where I went wrong thats all.
>pic related for you
>>53968148
>Where did I go wrong?
When you forgot the first rule of fucking around with computers:
Make a backup of your personal data in case you fuck something up.
how do i create a file called autostart.sh in /home/USERNAME/.config/openbox. ?
>>53968229
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>53968262
touch /home/USERNAME/.config/openbox./autostart.sh
>>53968259
>backing up memes
jesus is /g/ just FULL of shills?
>even alex jones supports trump
>trump wants to kill privacy completely
RMS for president when?
>>53968305
You can go home now, boy
Let the grown ups talk
>>53968229
a) u clearly dont know what shilling is
b) you seem to have corrupted the partitioning of your existing system
>download live-cd, boot from cd, save files you can still get on external hdd
>format
>reinstall
there is not much you can do.
bye bye meme and
lesson learned:
>KEEP A BACKUP AT ALL TIMES
bye dad
>>53968190
well I modified it and it downloaded
couldn't install under user so I switched to root
but now am trying to launch it from CLI as I have no current desktop.
I know I am likely forgetting something basic as I should have been able to just sudo the install, as I want the user to have access to the desktop
>>53965852
>Thread after thread from special needs kids who claim linux is awesome, no issue setting up and using.
>mfw when every issue people have requires fucking doing a ton of shit to fix.
Yep, linux is the way to go.
Could some shell wizard please tell me how I create a function that restarts something?
I want something like:$ restart firefox # kills and restarts firefox, in background, not connected to the shell
>>53968419
If you are using and expect to not do anything it's your problem really.
>>53968419
You're just too stupid to use it. Go ahead and throw your freedom in the toilet.
Feel the Bern.
>>53968457
Please stop false-flagging m8, you're fooling no one
>>53968424pkill firefox && firefox &???
>>53968419
To be honest, new users shouldn't fuck around with the kernel anways.
>>53968419
>>53968485
>>53968457
It's a trade-off man. You are trading comfort for freedom, not being spied on and free software (as in price).
>>53968519
This works, but will it stay alive when I close the shell?
>>53967618
>>53967642
Hey guys, I'm back.
I edited the GRUB config file as the maintainer suggested, and lo and behold - it fixed it. Shutdown times are back to normal.
However, I'm getting this message on boot. I can just press Enter to get past it, but I'd like to also fix it. Should be simplererror: file '/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/vbe.mod' not found.
Loading Linux 4.4.0-1-amd64 . . .
Loading initial ramdisk . . .
Press any key to continue . . .
error: no suitable video mode found.
Booting in blind mode
_
And then it promptly boots to desktop normally.
How do I obtain this 'vbe.mod' file ? I looked it up on my machine and can't find it anywhere.
>>53968552restart () {
( sh -c "pkill $1; sleep 1; $1" & )
}
>>53968262
Name it autostart, without the .sh.
I've seen these extentions somewhere: .bash, .fish and .zsh and I was asking myself if these are legit or should I call my scripts alltogether .sh?
>>53968563
TL;DR:
>How do I obtain a 'vbe.mod' GRUB module that is not currently on my machine?
Please and thank you.
>>53968419
gnu/linux is easy to use if you are not a retard using an autist distro like Debian, Arch, Gentoo or Slackware. (There is no need to ever use them anyway)
>>53968655
you don't even need to give it an extension at all.
>>53968545
>free software (as in price)
Except you pay for it in sweat and blood.
>I wouldn't have it any other way
>>53968563
Check in /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi, grub-install should have copied them to /boot through.
how do i Tex on ubuntu?
>>53968771
Nope, not in there either
Should I have to download it somewhere?
>>53968774sudo apt-get install texlive-full
Why do programs sometimes shit themselves and remove their icons from my taskbar and start menu, but I can still launch them from the command line? And then why do you reappear when I log out and back in?
>>53968674
>>53968679
>>53968724
>>53968738
>>53968771
>>53968774
>>53968855
>>53968863
>>53968996
OK people this is not /flt/
real /flt/ is here
>>53968800
>>53968800
>>53968800
>>53968387
think I fixed the permissions with "usermod -a -G sudo username", still not getting i3 to launch
startx = command not found
i3 = i3: Cannot open display
launch i3 = launch: command not found
open i3 = open: Unable to open /dev/tty7: permission denied
sudo open i3 = nothing happens, but under when I flip to F7 I see i3: Cannot open display
any ideas?
>>53969018
Sod off, autist.
>>53969018
Lol this fucking guy.
>>53969018
someone's upset...
>>53969023
you need to add it to your .xinitrc :echo 'exec i3' >> ~/.xinitrc
then startx should work
source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/i3#xinitrc
>>53968855
>>53968563
guys? anybody know how I can obtain this new module for GRUB?
>>53969018
/flt/ is depricated. Go with the time grandpa and upgrade to /flgt/.
>>53968855
From what I can tell, the vbe module is only for the i386-pc platform. So you shouldn't ever have it in a x86_64-efi directory. Just remove whatever is trying to load it.
And no, those modules should come with whatever grub package you install because they're required for grub-install to function.
>>53969130
Surely you mean /fglt/
>>53969138
It's being loaded from the GRUB config file, because of what the package maintainer for nvidia-drivers from Debian suggested to fix my problem
>>53967618
>>53968563
It fixed the problem alright, but it left this error.
Could you suggest another module to replace vbe that is x86_64-efi compatible?
You guys know how you can press 'o' in ncmpcpp to select the track that's currently playing, is there a way to automate that when the track changes?
>>53969018
is this a constant source of thread drama?
i can tell of two other generals with some sort of autist getting in the way of progress
>>53969200
No, it's literally just like three autists.
Yesterday they threw a fit and spammed loli on the thread for a while before getting promptly deleted.
>>53969165
You could try just copying the i386 vbe.mod module to the /boot x64_64-efi directory, I'm not sure if it would work. That one you should have in /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc.
>>53969233
No such folder, sadly.
I'm going to try disabling the integrated graphics on the BIOS and see if that fixes it, as suggested by the maintainer. That way I don't have to rely on these GRUB settings.
Be back in a while
>>53969101
Will that create conflict later when I add LDQt?
How would startx know which DE I want?
>>53969200
IMHO the name change is a good thing, because this thread is dedicated to help and educate earch others, inclusive and especially new users.
>>53968576
Thanks!
>>53969171
autocenter_mode = yes
>>53969312
no one fucking remembers /flgt/
its as shitty title
why are you like fucking thumblerinas feminists?
taking everything good and finding some ideological problem with it and fucking it all?
am really sad that shitty people like you took over /g/ I remember
Stalman was kinda tongue in cheek joke with turned to actual crusade to very few :(
/flt/ was fine and there was load of gnu in the OP text and the following posts
real thread about linux without the ideology and preaching and thumblerinas
bullying you with GNU
And you two guys bumping should stop and think about what you are doing too
why fucking causing split around here?
>>53968800
>>53968800
>>53968800
>>53968800
>>53969278
it won't, you're right about that. What's LDQt? You can use a display manager like lightdm to give you an option which wm/de to start.
>>53969405
>>53969405
If /flt/ or /fglt/ - the thread content is still the same idiot; there are people who teach you how to install propritary drivers and people who help you installing Parabola.
Don't put things like tumblrina shit into this topic, nobody will fall for it.
>>53969469
If the content is the same then why change it in the first place?
... yeah .. you are thumblerina
>>53969405
Don't you have loli to post?
Get the fuck back in line.
>>53969405
> FUCK ALL OF YOU!
> THE EARTH IS FLAT!
> AND IT WILL STAY FLAT!
> OR I WILL SPAM YLYL MEMES!
So guys I want to install Ubuntu mate properly with all their preconfiguration and shit.
What I did was:
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop
But from what I understand --no-install-recommends only installs the main dependencies (packages in the Depends field)
Some people complain they had problems, but ALSO installing the full deal then removing apps some suggest that is not the good idea again.
Main suggestion I could find online was: "Alternate installer which allows you to select packages you want to install."
BUT LMAO that's exactly what I used - I am presented there to choose from MATE- core and MATE-Desktop and MATE-Basic.. so yea pretty much exactly the same shit as running the command yourself.
What's the proper way to do it, I have the admit that most software that gets delivered I wouldn't even use, ex Libre - why use Libre when Microsoft word works amazingly well with wine, especially with Crossover ( if you run x32 ) ( you can also crack crossover ) or play on Linux with wine x64 for x64 office, really works very well - no need to waste time with libre.
>>53969278
>>53969418
I didn't read your previous questions, just the one about starting i3, that's why I suggested the .xinitrc thing. Now having read your whole conversation, here's what I would suggest for you:
install i3 (done already) and LXQt from the command line. Then install lightdm and read about setting it up. Reboot, see if lightdm gives you the option to choose i3 and LXQt by default, if not, read about how to add them as options.
Forget what I said about adding i3 to your xinitrc, because this way you won't be able to switch easily between WMs/DEs
>>53969544
Just post here mang. The other thread's a dud.
>>53969544
§ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-desktop
done
mate-core is just the core system, as you can read from its description
>>53969018
Yeah I'll leave this pretty nice running thread and join your meme thread because your autistic "we dont need ideology" ideology bullshit. No.
>>>/tumblr/
>>53969616
But then I'll have all the bloat... It's now what I asked, I could've used the Ubuntu mate iso if I just wanted bloated ubuntu-mate-desktop.
I want no software yet I want the mate preconfigurations done by Ubuntu.
>>53969544
You're installing a distro that is quite bloated by default. I guess an easy workaround is just do the default install, then fire up Synaptic and uninstall everything you don't want?
I don't really see why you'd use Word on Wine when you could use LibreOffice, but you know, to each his own
>>53969652
Already done a default install on Arch but fuck that man I dont have all the free time in the word to fix all the errors that show up, manually install and configure all drivers which were not working or suddenly stopped working.
From my experience and the rest of the world experience Ubuntu preconfigurations are good, stable and work out of the box with pretty much everything.
So this is the GNU thread and the other one is the Linux thread, right? I'm confuse.
>>53969652
>I don't really see why you'd use Word on Wine when you could use LibreOffice, but you know, to each his own
Libre is not that good, it lacks many features. And most people in many fields work with word.
+ Again it's not big deal that you run it trough wine it works well enough...
>>53969682
We agree, Ubuntu's good. I'm just saying, since you want to remove stuff.
>>53969692
This is the GNU/Linux thread. The other thread is created by autists who spam lolis and throw fits when they don't get their way.git merge flt
>>53969642
mate-core is as close as you can get to what you want, but if you really want no additional software installed, you're better of going with a minimalist wm and just setting up all your default programs to your preferred ones, and set up whatever services you want to autorun. you can't have it both ways anon, you either get a bunch of shit or no shit, because no one has your specific idea of what software should be included with any particular de
>>53969712
I see, then I'll go with the option which gives me shit but not a full feast of shit just a dinner table.
>>53969692
The other thread is just some WinKek trolling GNU/Linux users with "Linux OS" memes. Ignore him, this is the real upgraded one.
user@server ~ $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
Setting up udev (215-17+deb8u4) ...
addgroup: The group `input' already exists as a system group. Exiting.
Is this supposed to take long or is my server/SSH connection frozen?
>>53969405
end yourself
>>53969418
glad I asked before installing, thanks for following >>53969578
LDQt was a typo, it should be LXQt
which is a new development of LXDE as LXDE and some other one (Razor Qt ?) are merging into LXQt which brings the new Qt support which is suppose to allow it to take advantages of the newer hardware features or something. There was complaints as it adds something like 17MB to a lightweight setup, but if it brings the future proofing promised it sounds reasonable to ensure a wide hardware support. Right now it is still a bit buggy, but they are working on that.
I was about to install lightdm as it would be nice to just click a button at start to select, but then I saw how big the thing was. 110 new packages and double the size of my current memory use. I might do it if it just loads and unloads at start so it doesn't really effect things, but I feel like there has got to be a simpler way, like a CLI selector or something.
>>53969418
From what I chcked last update on LDQt was around end of last year.
Last update of LXDE was last month and is uPdated constantly, and they really listen to community - bug reports are prioritized.
Once LXQt is finished if they stop with LXDE maintains and updates I'll just ignore this forever and move on - otherwise I'll stick with LXDE as long as they stay true to their ideals.
Wich GNU utilities did stallman code himself?
>>53969912
Every single one at one time or another
>>53969794
I just saw on the Arch wiki that LXDE has it's own display manager called LXDM. No idea how lightweight that one is, though. There are some cli dms as well:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/display_manager
Have you guys seen this talk yet?
https://www.ted.com/talks/linus_torvalds_the_mind_behind_linux#t-9106
Is there any drawback to Suspending your machine instead of shutting it down?
Is it good practice to shut down every once in a while to flush something or?
>>53970110
Yes it was awkward, everyone lost interest quick and were super bored.
He's just the mind behind Linux kernel and nothing special, rather a very awkward introvert.
>>53970021
if LXDE has one then is should be lighter then most and LXQt should have one or get one within the year. LX stuff is not the lightest, but it is very light considering what features you get to have.
I will still look at CLI ones, but right now I am just trying to launch i3 from the startup CLI
pic may be 2 years old, but I doubt things have drastically changed. It is important to note not just the size and efficiency, but also the features, support and stability
>>53970145
Suspend will drain your battery.
>>53970190
It's a desktop.
>>53969954
He didn't write most of the coreutils, they're mostly credited to somebody named David MacKenzie. Seems to be the guy who wrote automake.
Although I can only see back to 1992. He is credited for ls and rm though.
Obvious the GCC, gdb, emacs and all that stuff is him, but in the actual utilities he doesn't seem to have much.
>>53970211
Well, you're wasting power, I guess.
>The other thread is still going on
When will the autists stop it with the fucking thread wars.
They don't like something, they throw fits.
They get ignored, they spam loli and memes.
They get deleted/banned, they throw more fits
They get insulted, they make a new thread and mislead catalog browsers to their new one instead of this one
When will the cancer end
>>53970246
At least all the friendly people gathered here - it's what's behind the philosophy of these threads.
>>53970145
some stuff can build up making errors, this is why it is recommend to shut the system down for 5 or 10 minutes as warmboots don't clear everything completely. It really depends on the system as some enterprise class severs are made to never shutdown.
generally I see noticeable errors pop up after about a few days to a few weeks depending on the setup. So I restart every 7 days with my setup as it seems to prevent issues, sadly I have no clue what those issues are but they seem real enough.
>>53970265
Yes, but it's kind of a bummer lots of people coming from the catalog will go there thinking it's the legit one - and then have to face the memes, abrasiveness and everything in full force
Would kind of help perpetuate the idea that the gnu/linux community is hostile
>>53970295
We need to spam the thread with
>>> new thread often and it fixes the problem.
>>53970322
I mean not like new thread in our case but actual thread.
Loosely related to GNU/Linux but here I go.
What did you all think of the portrayal of the OS and FOSS in general in Mr. Robot? Apart from the cringe-worthy lines like "I see you're running GNOME! I'm more of a KDE guy myself ;^)"
I thought they did a decent job of exposing viewers to things like Kali Linux and whatnot.
>>53970322
Nah. I don't think that really works, sadly
>>53970343
was okay from a normie perspective, everything else was cringy as hell
some stuff like using rpis in thermostats seemed questionable, as did storing encrypted information on cds disguised as music, as did the physical destruction of hardware
>>53970322
>spamming
We're hopefully not THAT 12 year old.
Just ignore. If you really need to spam, at least use "sage".
>>53970343
yeah they have a good consultant so that's why most of their computer aspects are spot on-ish.
can't wait for S2
>>53970380
(you)
Anyone know what WM >>53965185 is using?
>>53970482
Just ask him. The bar looks like tint2.
>>53970482
could be i3wm or openbox
they're the most popular wm's for ricers
I'm trying to move away from stuff like gmail and google drive and such
I've got a vps, but I'm having a hard time getting a email server and owncloud running properly, is there some easy guide to doing all this? I know tek syndicate started with something but it looks like it's going to take a few months for them to finish the videos
>>53970571
I've moved away the strong way
GOOGLE:" Dude we locked away from your account because your usage habits were indicating you were a thread for your own account now we deactivated it to keep it safe from yourself"
I think me deleting my very old youtube comments triggered this + since a month when I started to give a shit about internet security and blended my browser fingerprint among the masses and obviously done much more to protect than that all services that collect advertising data work like shit or refuse to work... I also refuse to ever use them again.
Do you know if Openmailbox is safe to use or is their security really bad and amateurish?
>>53970571
check the wiki, there is a little howto for email servers there that will get you started.
>>53970643
Yes
>>53970522
>>53970528
Thank you.
Did anyone else's lightdm break after the most recent update?
>>53970671
>Arch
>>53970684
no bully
>>53970643
http://prxbx.com/email/
Protonmail is breddy good.
>>53970684
pic related
>>53970702
Can confirm.
ProtonMail a best.
Sup nigs
I just got KDE
What are some sexy icons that go with this
>>53970763
The one I'm using™
>>53970763
Icons don't care about the DE.
I suggest AwOken White.
>>53970763
>KDE
gross
>>53970836
Ure mum m8
>mint mate
>mate 1.12.0
>firefox 45.0
>kernel 4.4.0-15
Firefox sometimes crashes when opening google maps. It crashed on previous kernels too. I need help diagnosing the cause of these crashes. It's not because of not enough ram.
Where can I find crash log files?
So guys, have you had any success stories in introducing family/friends to using GNU/Linux?
A few weekends ago when I visited my parents, they wanted to try it out because they were having problems on their ancient laptops with windows anyway. They haven't looked back and are really happy, which is pretty rad
I'm not gonna lie, the main driving force for them is that it's free as in free beer, but oh well
>>53970892
Start it from a terminal and see the errors.
The kernel isn't likely to have anything to do with this.
Do you have flash installed? Try removing that.
And/or try with a new firefox profile.
>firefox -p
Can't wait for fedora 24
>>53970957
I ahve flash on manual start, google maps doesn't use it. 3D mode is turned on by default, maybe it's that.
>>53970702
Would you use it for important accounts?
>>53971007
How the hell do you enable 3D mode?
I know it doesn't use flash but that doesn't mean it is not causing a problem.
>>53970977
Same here m8. Am kinda disappointed that Wayland isn't default.
I want to try out KDE. Will I fuck up anything when I just install it next to GNOME?
>>53971077
Nope
For desktops:
Debian Testing or Debian Unstable?
Thank you.
>>53971077
Possibly
>>53971077
Just make a snapshot before trying stuff like that out, familia
>>53971077
Yes. Don't do it. Try it in a VM. KDE is srsly aggressive and changes stuff you wouldn't espect like branding the login manager and overwriting other configs.
You can install as many WMs like you want, but don't play with different DEs.
>>53971082
>>53971118
>>53971133
Nope > Possibly > Yes
kek
>53971129
A snapshot? How does it work?
>>53971156
Don't do it if you don't have a backup. Anything is a risk if you are not certain so don't do it if you can't afford to.
$ uptime
11:46:08 up 3 days, 4:57, 1 user, load average: 0.87, 17.18, 22.52
>>53965553
It might be helpful if you say what software this limited tiny screenshot is of
>>53971156
Please tell me you partitioned your shit in an LVM.
Because that's how you make snapshots all worry-free, brohirrim
Is there a way to speed up downloading of packages in fedora ? It's fucking slow.
>>53971054
>How the hell do you enable 3D mode?
Click hamburger in top-left and there it is, see pic.
It crashed again. During first visit on google maps there was this kind of error in terminal(firefox:5020): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised
libGL error: pci id for fd 92: 80ee:beef, driver (null)
libGL error: core dri or dri2 extension not found
libGL error: failed to load driver: vboxvideo
ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
So I guess it has something to do with how VirtualBox handles 3D acceleration - I'm running a VM hosted on win7. CPU load is heavy too, because gpu isn't used.
On the other hand I have just noticed that I haven't enabled 3D acceleration in virtualbox settings. I'll try that.
>>53971225
Yea don't have shit internet
>>53971225
Don't worry the first big update won't happen again for a long time. It's because it's 1000+ packages the first update, of course it's slow.
>>53971225
Use an http redirect based on your latency, instead of whatever mirror you're currently using
>>53971223
No, I'm a real man and went balls deep into GNU/Linux. :^)
Okay, I'll try a distro with a KDE spin first.
Thanks for helping.
>>53971270
You best be trolling nigger
>>53971259
I would like to know how to do that,
>>53971270
...Uh, I think you're confusing LVM with Virtual Machine, mang.
When you go balls deep into Linux you SHOULD partition your shit in an LVM, meaning Logical Volume Management
>>53971291
I don't know how it works on Fedora, but on Debian you just input this in your sources.list file.
http://httpredir.debian.org/
>>53971292
Thank you. I actually thought you're talking about virtual machines. I'll read into LVM.
>>53971342
No problem. Just make sure you don't put your /boot partition in the LVM. That always goes outside.
Only root, home, and whatever else. That way you can resize them at any time, take snapshots, etc. It's really convenient.
How do I get sed to extract something inbetween single quotes
I've been trying this sed 's/\'//'
but it just escapes every time.
>>53971242
Yeah it's graphics by the look of it.
It does some weird stuff for me now that I'm playing with it, if I tilt too much it goes all red or black.
>>53971314
The mirrors had no indication what countries they were from had to manually check all so fuck that:
I done this: /etc/dnf/dnf.conf
fastestmirror=true
then
sudo dnf clean all
sudo dnf check-update
And now it donwloads with 1 mb/s compared to 150 - 200 kb/s which was fucking annoying... still worse than ubuntu which has repos in my country and allows me to download with average of 50 mb/s lmao.
>>53971394
In the bourne shell you can't escape anything inside single quotes, not even another single quote. Use double quotes "s/'//" on the outside.
>>53971526
Ah I probably should have said I was in bash.
>>53971536
bash is a bourne shell.
>>53971554
Oh...
That still didn't work however.
>>53971394
Not sed, but awk:$ echo "penis 'and' vagina" | awk -F \' '{ print $2 }
and
>>53971589
That escaped any idea why?
>>53971575
Well that's just your shitty sed.sed -rn "s/.*'(.*?)'.*/\1/p"
>>53971626
Perfect, thank you very much.
>>53971605
I forgot the last 'echo "penis 'and' vagina" | awk -F \' '{print $2}'
>>53971626
noice
>>53971525
Damn it went back to shit... I need to find a way to find fast mirrors for dnf.
>>53971416
I tried turning on 3D acceleration in VM settings. Google maps didn't even offer 3D functionality, as if it wasn't supported. glxinfo still reported failing to load vboxvideo. All the 3D applications(glxgears or tux racer for example) couldn't be ran in a window. It was full-screen black with portion of that window rendering.
I tried newer guest additions, that fixed some issues for some people as seen at https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12746
After that, I couldn't even change screen resolution from 640x480, with 3D acceleration enabled or without it.
I reverted back to no 3D acceleration and 5.0.16 guest additions. I'll live with that, maybe something gets fixed in newer virtualbox version.
[archuser@archpc]: ~>$ mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hAIZIuT-U
Playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5hAIZIuT-U
(+) Video --vid=1 (*) (h264)
(+) Audio --aid=1 --alang=eng (*) 'DASH audio' (vorbis) (external)
[ao/alsa] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
[ao/oss] Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
connect(2) call to /dev/shm/jack-1000/default/jack_0 failed (err=No such file or directory)
attempt to connect to server failed
[ao/jack] cannot open server
[ao] Failed to initialize audio driver 'jack'
Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
Audio: no audio
VO: [opengl] 1084x1080 yuv420p
V: 00:00:30 / 00:05:43 (8%) Cache: 8s+13KB
Then there is a video on some browser tab, everything i play everywhere doesn't have audio.
Is there a way i could solve this?
