Previously on: >>53738436
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
Remember:
Ignore Microsoft/anti-Linux trolls.
Ignore BSD/anti-GNU trolls.
Ignore anti-OpenRC/anti-Upstart/anti-Mir trolls.
Mark them as bait. You are invited to share/create copypasta to prevent doubts they create.
It's Linux, not GNU/Linux, dumbass.
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>>53745674
Repeating here from last thread:
>What's the best way to burn ISO's to a USB on Linux? I tried Unetbootin on Debian Unstable and it was broken, and I tried the command line method after googling and that seemingly didn't work because the USB was unbootable. I have to go into a small windows partition to use Rufus just for the purpose of making bootable USB's and that feels pretty terrible
>why do file operations on Nautilus seemingly hang up so much? I've had it happen countless of times that it says I've finished copying a file to a USB and then it just gets stuck there in the operation (showing 100%), and warns me not to eject yet. It also happens when copying files locally
>>53745703
Get your shit together, anon. Even Linus himself says his kernel is useless without GNU.
>Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you
need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may
be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used
with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft.
http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/historical/kernel/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01
>>53745723
That "guy" doesn't care anon, be careful. He just want to shitpost this thread.
>>53745723
He said that years ago.
At the time Linux was an x86 kernel that literally ran nothing else other than GNU.
Today Linux has a ton of option and does not depend on GNU.
>>53745737
Name ONE project other than Android that uses Linux and not GNU
Going to try again. Didn't get a response in the other thread.
____________
I need a way of reverse tethering my Arch Live connection with my Android phone. Could I get any informative guides?
Once again, I will be doing this all from the Arch Live image.
I should also say that my phone is NOT rooted.
>>53745737
Feel free to create an alpine/busybox thread and see how far you get from there. This thread's mein topics are about GNU plus Linux, it's distros and sharing & caring!
>>53745750
REVERSE tethering? So using the network your PC has from your phone?
>>53745755
>>53745749
Just stop anons.
>>53745719
Anyone?
>>53745749
Just because a project uses GNU does not mean it should be named GNU.
Debian.
Debian is the name of it, and we characterize Debian as Linux OS because it runs Linux kernel. There is not a single mention of GNU on Debian webpage.
> Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:
rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
>>53745762
You hijacked /flt/ and renamed it to GNU/Linux thread. How about you just stop it?
>>53745772
>Linux OS
found the tech illiterate
>>53745755
He is trying long ago to replace his thread, he is the same BSD troll with a hidden agenda.
>>53745762
I see what you are trying to do, you want people to confuse me >>53745693
with you.
>>53745782
From the other thread, that wasn't me.
I'm kind of confused here. I'm going through the the installation guide for Arch after watching install videos out of curiosity.
After the install is finished it links me to General Recommendations, with guides on how to install DEs or WMs and whatnot. It tells me I need to install xorg and .xinitrc to use DEs and WMs and anything GUI related, but the videos I watched don't show the installation of those packages.
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCXXc_WUrE
He does everything in the guide, but at the end he is just able to start gdm and gnome desktop without xorg. How? Does pacstrap install it?
>>53745795
I'm not.
I simply sympathize with Linus and dislike RMS.
>>53745820
You don't like the idea of free software?
>>53745830
>implying software made by some NEETS has any value
>>53745830
I simply do not subscribe to RMS's aggressive behavior when trying to enforce his license. Linus's approach is so much better.
I do support what I consider to be free software. But I do not support RMS.
>>53745855
ok kid
>>53745868
And I do not subscribe to shitposters who wants to derail a conversation because of a hidden agenda.
Fuck off.
>>53745868
>Linus's approach is so much better
So you think that allowing companies to take your code, make it propritary and sell it back to you when you need it is a good idea?
>>53745885
Do you call me a shitposter for adopting the same stance as the person who is in charge of Linux? As the person whose OS this thread was devoted to before you renamed it?
>>53745889
As long as they contribute code back, completely fine.
>>53745896
Nice speech, I bet you can bullshit idiots.
Now fuck off.
>>53745889
Linus isn't a BSDfag, but he thinks tivoization is a good idea, so he's maybe not completly gay, but still a cuck.
And now shut up and help that anon here: >>53745764
>>53745933
Dubs have spoken.
>>53745933
>>53745965
This is shopped. I can tell from the pixels and from seeing quite a few photoshops in my time.
>>53745969
No shit.
I have 2 hard drives, 1 for windows one for limux
I know how to install gentoo, but I want to install to my Linux hdd partition and have access to the handbook, can I use VM to install the linux partition then just configure grub/syslinux while on windows?
I can't really explain it but I want to install gentoo headless on a seperate partition while in windows on the same machine.
I tried it on my server but this machine doesn't have IPMI
>>53745969
Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.
>>53745816
anyone
How can I get xterm to have the thin/opaque font colors lxterminal has with the same font? Pic related.
The foreground is the same, white with the unifont font, but you can see in lxterminal is unique and well draw.
And how can I make it stick to other CLI applications? For example in xterm I change the color to grey but it keeps the same in Moc. Or is it that Moc as a predetermined color? Because I know it uses the same font that the terminal.
>>53745759
Yes, that is correct.
>>53746006
If I recall, you have to install literally xorg and xinit, look at the exact package names. They are only two.
>>53746021
Moc has it's own color scheme files. Use your favorite search engine for MOAR. There are even premade themes.
>>53745993
epic
>>53746048
Strange, never seen anyone ask before. Not even sure it can be done.
You have a nasty data limit or something?
Is it possible to use profont in the Linux console?
The arch wiki says you can use the fonts in /usr/share/kdb/consolefonts/, but even if I installed profont, it doesn't show up there.
>>53746049
This is what I thought...I just don't know how that guy was able to view a GUI without installing xorg.
>>53746052
You are right, silly me. Any idea on the xterm thin/opaque fonts?
>>53746006
No, pacstrap doesn't install it by default.
I think you should usesudo pacman -S xorg xorg-xinit
But I'm not exactly sure. Xinit will generate your Xinitrc. Imagine .bashrc, but for X.
>>53745816
pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit
Then configure your .xinitrc
>>53746067
Afaik only bitmapped fonts work for consoles, eg pcf/bdf.
>>53746065
I don't even fucking have data, sadly enough. It's a thing, alright. I get a bunch of results, but a lot of the guides are half-assed, require rooted phones or only have working applications for Windows.
>>53746076
See >>53746079
xorg-server not xorg, led to frustration in my early days
>>53746075
You can customize pretty much anything via ~/.Xresources. The Arch wiki has a very nice entry with stuff for copy pasting.
>hear about pdnsd
>install and test it
>0ms query times
>all webpages immediately stop doing that weird lag they always did for me on reload with gnunix
Jesus Almighty Christ why haven't I installed this before
>>53745719
>>53745764
----------------------------------------------------------------
No one knows, guys?
I just want to create bootable USB's on Linux...
And not have my file manager hang up so much after file transfers...
>>53746091
Yes I've read the Arch wiki, couldn't find anything on the opaque thing.
Apparently lxterminal renders pretty gud unifont and I fear the exact same look can't be done in xterm, which makes me sad.
>>53746114
Are you the one that said he used DD?
>>53746114
Did you triedsudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/device/name bs=8M
>>53746138
>>53746130
Yes, that's exactly what I did. None of the USB's I've tried to burn this way have been bootable. Whereas on Rufus I have zero issues
>>53746149
How about, just for the hell of it, you try formatting the drive?
Or have you done that already?
>>53746149
But there is a catch, you have to have something like "sdb" and not "sdb1" or "sdb2" or anything "sdbX" where X is a number.
If by any case you did put a number, you dun goofed.
>>53745816
>>53746076
>>53746089
Just went through this shit. I feel your pain. Now I'm burnt out while I still have hundreds of things to configure with openbox.
>>53746169
I kept wondering this. Someone in one of these threads kept fucking up, but it turns out it was because he put /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sdb.
>>53746169
>>53746166
>>53746187
I didn't put in a number, just the letter for the device
And yes, I tried formatting the drive
>>53746178
It starts to feel good after a while.
https://i.imgur.com/kUYW1H1.jpg
>>53746196
That's really fucking bizarre. How about deleting any partitions completely?
>>53746049
>>53746076
>>53746079
>>53746089
Thanks. I knew the package names, I just wasn't sure how the guy in the video was starting gnome, because he made no mention of Xorg.
I can only assume now that he installed them off screen for some reason.
>>53746196
Have you choose to boot from the USB on bootscreen? Or have a UEFI?
Sorry, I have to ask for these obvious.
>>53746216
There's several ways, personally I put a line at the bottom of my ~/.xinitrc that saysexec <whatever>
in my case it's i3 and that launches it. Then in my .zprofile/.bash_profile I have[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx
However don't do the second if you would prefer to use a DM. Which you should also check on.
>>53746216
After configuring your .Xinitrc and using startx, you should be good. But never, EVER sudo startx.
>>53746196
What >>53746222 said, plus secure boot.
>>53746215
>>53746222
>>53746248
Yes, that too. SecureBoot and FastBoot disabled. And yes, I have UEFI. I didn't know how to add the command line argument during burning to distinguish between MBR or GPT though
If is of any help - the times when I've burn the ISO's with Rufus it has told me that it will automatically download some file and add it to the USB, something with linux in the filename.
Obviously the command line doesn't ask me for this and just performs the file operation
But it begs the question, why would the image ship without that necessary file for it to be bootable?
>>53746246
samefag, make sure that line for profile is at the bottom too if you intend to use it
>>53746246
Don't forget to comment or delete any default execs it has in it, eg. mine looks like#twm &
#xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
#xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
#xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
#exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
[[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge -I$HOME ~/.Xresources
numlockx &
exec i3
At the bottom.
>>53746080
Profont comes in .pcf, so I guess there must be a way to make it work.
I'll try just copying the files in the right directory
>>53746246
Let me get this straight - you add stuff to ~/.xinitrc that you want to start immediately on boot, things like DEs, WMs, and DMs?
And if you have that line in .bash_profile, if you don't have a DM, upon boot, you should be prompted for you username and password, right? After entering them, xinitrc takes over and starts your DE and/or WM? I'm just taking from what I've heard other anons talking about.
>>53746347
That is 100% correct, Anon.
Without the line in your config, you'd have to have one uncommented and startx.
>>53746347
No. ~/.xinitrc is an rc file that gets loaded when you call startx. So if you want startx to load a certain DE/WM you put that in the config. However you can ignore the config and instead use a DE which is like a GUI login screen you see on Windows etc. I don't bother because I don't see the point personally.
Putting that line in your *profile file simply calls startx if it's not already started when you start your login shell. You could ignore than and just type startx after login if you want.
>>53746374
>instead use a DE which is like a GUI login
DM* whoops, sorry >>53746347
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/display_manager
>>53746368
>>53746347
Xinitrc isn't called by default. You can make it so with[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx
In your bash_profile.
>>53746374
>>53746395
I know it's not called by default. I said IF you have that line[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx
in your bash_profile, THEN xinitrc gets called after you log in because of that line. Correct? I say after you log in, because I thought you are first presented with a login prompt in the console.
of course this is assuming you are not using a DM
>>53746454
Yes.
>>53746454
That is correct.
>>53746086
Not without root champ. You can always get a wifi dongle and set up and access point though. The obvious solution is sometimes best right ;)
ok so my bash_profile contains just this
"mc"
I'm trying to pull open midnight commander everytime I start bash on a certain user (me that is)
am I doing it right?
>>53746493
In a better situation: I could plug this into my wired desktop with no WiFi capabilities, get WiFi access then piggyback with my phone?
Also, I can't. WiFi is secured, don't have the pass.
>>53746253
when making the bootable drive make sure to put
;sync at the end
>>53746528
No because that'll make it hang until mc closes, you should do mc &
Some anon confirm?
Btw if you want it starting on every terminal you open you should use bashrc instead.
>>53746545
what does that do? sync what?
>>53746534
Just remembered, wouldn't need a dongle if I had the pass anyway. I could use WiFi directly. Anyway, no pass so I can't. But the computer I'll be using WILL be connected.
>>53745674
Should I use centos to make a webserver, go full meme on gentoo or be a good got and use ubuntu server?
>>53746547
>.bashrc
>"mc &"
>start terminal
Help
>>53746552
>what is man
>>53746623
Can't help you, I don't know what mc is. What I'll tell you is this.
Stuff in .bashrc will get run every time you open a new shell.
process & starts a process in the background (or so it should) but its lifetime is tied to the shell it was started with (unless you do some tricky shit)
Up to you to figure out what you want your shit to be doing.
>>53746528
>>53746623
Which terminal emulator do you have? Just create a new shortcut for opening a terminal withmc. That way you can still open a normal shell quickly without having to exit mc.
For xfce4-terminal I can do:
>xfce4-terminal -x mc
and then make a keyboard combination run that.
>>53746623
Why use mc over ranger?
>>53745913
And you call me a shitposter? After making a post like that?
How do I get to choose which colors the manpage has? How is it set?
>>53746835
>shitposting 2 hours later
grep LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC /usr/include/linux/reboot.h
>>53746982
>0xfee1dead
Spooky.
>>53746951
Do you honestly consider that a hidden agenda is the only reason someone would oppose actions of RMS?
Has anyone tried out Hawaii? As in the Wayland desktop environment.
Is it possible for ubuntu to read a deduplicated ntfs volume? I'm getting a lot of symbolic links.
if i wanted to go and edit some of the resources used by some programs where would i find the files? im running arch linux.
Why does genfstab create two subvol options for root, does it do that on purpose or is it a bug?
>>53746982
Wtf
>>53747336
Uh? That totally depends on the program.
>>53747079
>>53747357
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_%28programming%29#Magic_debug_values
>>53747360
chromium or iriduim. i want to change the buttons to fit my theme
>>53747369
Huh. Interesting. Thanks, anon.
>>53745719
turn it onto a .img file the use the dd command to put it on the drive.
>>53747436
Do ISOs really not work with dd? No one uses img.
>>53747357
Convert the hexvalues to decimal and search the web for the results.
>>53747441
idk ive always used .img and it works
>>53747441
I use .ISOs all the time.
>>53747441
>>53747452
dd doesn't care about file extentions
>>53747465
ISOs and IMGs are surely fundamentally different though?
Does anyone know a tool like WHOIS for file extensions? I know it sounds like an odd request and, truth be told, I don't really need it, but I still think it'd be cool.
For example, we'll use a fictional program called extfind (which sounds too much like a FS tool, I know.)extfind png
...
"Portable Network Graphics (PNG /ˈpJŋ/) is a raster graphics file format that supports lossless data compression. PNG was created as an improved, non-patented replacement for Graphics Interchange Format (GIF), and is the most used lossless image compression format on the Internet."
>>53746552
I noticed the people were having you manually set the block size and I heard that if you do bs=# without syncing afterward it can cause issues
>>53747473
Not really.
>>53747441
they work fine
see >>53747465
you can do .bin or .raw as well
or even just device to device
>>53747511
filext.com
yeah not a program but so what
>>53747566
The idea is to have it all done within the shell.
>>53747582
Write one senpai.
>>53747582
>>53747566
Without Elinks or any other CLI browser, of course. :^)
>>53747473
>>53747541
ISO images come with both .iso and .img extensions. IMG files are somewhat different and generally come with a .img extension, so with the overlap the occasional confusion is understandable.
Of course (to be overly clear here), nothing needs a file extension to function as the kind of file they are, which this aptly demonstrates.
>>53747614
>Of course (to be overly clear here), nothing needs a file extension to function as the kind of file they are, which this aptly demonstrates.
Windows software does :^)
>>53747511
file
>>53747590
Well, this is all I've got so far.#!/bin/bash
read ext
curl -L fileext.com/file-extension/$ext.html
Now I need to find a way to get the contents of the page without all the HTML splattered around.
>>53747637
This is provided I have the file.
>>53747628
Playful quipping aside and to be fair, there's a decent number of programs on our side as well that expect file extensions. It's all a matter of convenience, really.
>>53747683
It's about expectation.
>>53747656
Oh. Hmm. Well, seeing as you'd need an updated database of file extensions, relying on a third party like you're thinking of is probably the best solution.
May I suggest the name fixtinfo, fextinfo or something similar instead of extfind?
>>53747733
Fextinfo would probably be less confusing.
Not that it would matter since this type of thing isn't practical and probably wouldn't be in high demand. I don't know any scripting language besides BASH, and even then, I don't know it well enough to apply it to scripting. Any pointers?
>>53747643
Write it in ruby and use the nokogiri gem. It'll ease your task of getting the part of the site you want.
>>53747792
Actually, getting to the part of the site I want is working no problem. If you mean grabbing the text I want to be printed to STDOUT, then yes, that is a problem. I don't know Ruby.
>>53747808
That's what I meant, yes. And you can ruby, it's pretty easy. Especially for what you're trying to achieve.
Also, I'd recommend to stop using the `#!/bin/bash` and start using the sane `#!/usr/bin/env bash` instead.
Which one, /media or /data?
>>53747760
If you can do what you want manually on the command line, you're halfway there. My main advice on Bash scripting would be to consider if a Bash script is the right tool for the job. This doesn't seem like it would be too ugly to accomplish in Bash, but it's very possible that >>53747792's suggestion would be better.
tldp.org and wooledge.org are your friends, but also refer to man pages for bash and test and so on.
If you go with Bash, just avoid parsing HTML with regex. See if you can't get it out reliably with cut or something instead. Will save you headaches.
>>53747822
I just looked that up.
So, basically, /usr/bin/env bash will find BASH wherever it is, as opposed to #!/bin/bash where it's restricted to the path I specify?
So if I have it laying around in (for whatever fucking reason) /usr/games/bash, it'll find it?
>>53747840
/media has compatibility with other programs. eg. if you mount your additional hard disks in /data Thunar won't recognise them and auto add them to the side bar, it will for /media.
>>53747848
Yes, that's pretty much it. It'll be a godsend if you ever run into one of those unique systems or BSD, and find out that bash is in another location. It would be even better for compatability with other systems to depend on sh instead of bash, but you'll lose a set of bash specific features, so I won't recommend this to beginners.
>>53747822
#!/bin/sh
should have complete compatibility right? I don't know a system where this is not a symlink to wherever bash is. Maybe I'm just dumb though.
>>53747848
/usr/bin/env will find the first bash that appears in the user's $PATH. This has downsides too, but the only downside is the user is a retard and added a broken bash to their userspace, so fuck them.
>>53747848
I think the greater reason is that distros have started phasing out /bin and are instead symlinking it to /usr/bin. In a future where a distro decides to cut out /bin completely, what Anon said would work on any old one as well as new.
>>53747866
Do not use sh for bash scripts.
>Always use the correct shebang. If you're writing a Bash script, you need to put #!/usr/bin/env bash at the top of your script. Omitting this header or using the #!/bin/sh header is wrong. In the latter case you will no longer be able to use any Bash features. You will be limited to the POSIX shell scripting standard (even if your /bin/sh links to Bash).
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Practices
>>53747866
>should have complete compatibility right?
Should, yes. #!/usr/bin/env is a requirement by POSIX though.
>I don't know a system where this is not a symlink to wherever bash is.
FreeBSD
>>53747923
>>I don't know a system where this is not a symlink to wherever bash is.
>FreeBSD
B-b-but anon, who would use something else than GNU+Linux?
>>53747904
>even if your /bin/sh links to Bash
That makes no sense though.
>>53747808
I'm considering to write a small example for you, but that fileext.com website's layout is fucking terrible. Is there a better website to get information about file extensions?
>>53747937
Because I prefer to use whatever's best for the job. And seeing as GNU+Linux is becoming one big horror known as systemd, I'd rather be able to know something else to switch away in case it becomes too shit.
>>53747992
>horror
>>53747992
>one big horror known as systemd
>fell for the systemd is shit meme
>2013+4-1
>>53747992
This is the best that I can find so far. The layout seems much cleaner.
http://fileinfo.com/extension/jpg
>>53747980
I guess Bash looks at the shebang and locks away Bashisms and whatnot if it says /bin/sh.
>>53748049
>>53747992
http://filext.com/file-extension/exe
>>53748073
Ah that makes sense. Bit lame. Why lock it away, a real sh script wouldn't use them anyway.
>>53748084
I'm just guessing, mind. But it makes sense to me; I could easily see an inexperienced author otherwise write a script with whatever Bashisms and fall under the illusion that it'd work on any system.
>be non-positive about systemd
>this is how their "community" reacts
>>53748019
>>53748027
The terrible community is one of the reasons I dislike it so much.
>>53748049
This one is a lot more sane, using classes to easily search for the box you need.
Try out the code sample from http://termbin.com/6csj
You will need the nokogiri gem, which you can install with `gem install nokogiri`. Download the script itself with `wget http://termbin.com/6csj`, and make it executable with `chmod +x`.
>>53748082
Still pretty garbage to me.
>>53748160
>The terrible community is one of the reasons I dislike it so much.
This is 4chan, not the systemd community.
>>53748169
There is very little difference. The systemd community is worse, from time to time.
>>53748160
Awesome! Thank you very much.
>>53748267
>>53748160
Forgot to include the image.
>>53748160
>The terrible community is one of the reasons I dislike it so much.
A lot of people are jolly tired of the over-the-top systemd opposition from some, making them sensitive towards any colourful language on the subject. Thank your peers for forcing you to tip-toe on the subject to not get responses like the ones you did.
It's a damn shame, really. I know there are some anti-systemd folks with valuable input but loudmouths who know as little as I do make it pretty much impossible to follow a meaningful debate on the subject.
>>53748285
>the systemd-hating-freebsd-user is having green on black with muhhackingfont
Goodspeed, anon.
>>53748315
I'm not that guy, I'm the one asking for help.
>>53748325
Thank god then, the other anon was offering some pretty solid advice for you and would have killed it with it.
[spoiler]Also I just like shitposting and beeing a pretentious faggot :^)[/spoiler]
>>53748298
A lot of people are also tired about the systemd devs just pushing their shit onto everyone, breaking everything in it's wake.
I don't agree with the "over-the-top systemd opposition", but I can certainly understand why they're so angry and have to spout the same bullshit all the time.
>>53748315
First off, the one with the "hacking font" is the one that needed help, not the one who's opposing systemd, that'd be me.
Second, I use FreeBSD only in certain occasions where it suits my needs better right now. Using FreeBSD doesn't make you a systemd hater anyway.
>>53748355
>Using FreeBSD doesn't make you a systemd hater anyway.
I know, anon. I know. I just get triggered by systemd-hating.
>>53748363
Get professional help then. Systemd isn't the holy grail, and it certainly has it's downsides. It also comes with improvements, but to me, these improvements aren't worth all the downsides it brings with it.
>>53748351
I changed it just for you, Anon.
I was wondering why so many linux user spend so much time going over distros and fighting about it all and then proceed to use stock firmware on their routers and care very little about their network setup, can anyone explain why that is?
I've met more people running custom home networks with advanced setups that are windows users compared to linux
>>53748373
>Systemd isn't the holy grail
No one (except for poettering) says this.
>and it certainly has it's downsides.
Like every piece of non trivial software
>It also comes with improvements, but to me, these improvements aren't worth all the downsides it brings with it.
>but to me
And no one has a problem with that.
>>53748392
This looks comfy.
>>53748373
Which downsides are affecting you?
>>53748355
>A lot of people are also tired about the systemd devs just pushing their shit onto everyone, breaking everything in it's wake.
Is this really the case, though? All the distributions that have chosen to use it have done so of their own volition, haven't they? In the Arch mailing list that was frequently linked to for a few days a week or so ago, they mentioned that they implemented systemd because it makes developing easier.
I'm not looking for a lengthy debate but I'd love to hear you expand on this particular titbit, as it caught my attention.
>>53748414
>This looks comfy.
I'm glad someone besides me thinks so.
>>53748427
He can't, because he didn't form his own opinion through worthwhile experience, but he merely adopted one.
/flt/ is /free linux techsupport/, right?
I tried to set up some port forwarding using ufw, which I have told to open a udp port on 1194, which should be openvpns default port.
When I scan my ip using nmap, it does recognize openvpn at that port, but as a closed tcp port, not an open udp port...
I'm trying to set Openvpn up on a digitalocean rented VPS. I followed a guide on the website, very carefully. Obviously, I can't connect.
What should I try?
>>53748446
Hush, Anon, let Anon speak for themselves.
>>53748424
Trying to do too much for a simple init system. Makes it too big of a single point that can fail and bring down everything
Binary logs are the worst idea ever. I know you can work around it, but why work around something that shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
I also dislike unit files. I don't think they simplify that much, but this is more of a personal point.
>>53748427
Most distros took in systemd because Gnome started to depend on it, and it was easier to just get in systemd than to make Gnome sane for them. Funtoo, however, does patch around this insane dependency on systemd.
Is it ever advisable to run a web API from something other than a VM (that is ideally brought up and provisioned using Vagrant)?
I'm trying to think why anyone would not do it this way, but it seems the best way to me
Also does anyone use Vagrant with KVM here? Does it just werk (tm)?
I propose one thing
Let's count how many /flt/'s we can have without people discussing systemd being a terrible thing.
>>53748491
>Most distros took in systemd because Gnome started to depend on it, and it was easier to just get in systemd than to make Gnome sane for them. Funtoo, however, does patch around this insane dependency on systemd.
While not inconceivable, this sounds very strange. I'd imagine several distros would sooner drop Gnome completely rather than make significant changes around it. You'll have to forgive me for not being able to take your word for it, but I'll make my own research around that and see what I find. Thank you, Anon.
Do btrfs subvolumes work across multiple non-raid disks?
>>53748491
>Trying to do too much for a simple init system.
Systemd isn't an init system. It's a system managing daemon, which also has an init system component.
>Makes it too big of a single point that can fail and bring down everything
Everything in systemd is modular.
>Binary logs are the worst idea ever.
They're not, but explain how they are for you.
>I also dislike unit files. I don't think they simplify that much
Then your opinion is ridiculous, because everyone with eyes can see the difference between a 100 line init script and a 10 line systemd service file.
All of the things you mentioned have been disproved. Not just that, but you obviously just picked up other people's opinions and adopted them as your own, without any fact checking whatsover. I'm not going out of a limb here to say that you're not even affected by things like "binary logs are the worst idea ever". You just want to have a bold opinion about something to appear knowledgable. It's pathetic.
>>53748569
>Systemd isn't an init system. It's a system managing daemon, which also has an init system component.
Indeed, it's doing way too much.
>Everything in systemd is modular.
>Then your opinion is ridiculous
http://judecnelson.blogspot.nl/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html
>They're not
Great argument.
>All of the things you mentioned have been disproved
If they had been, you would've had some better arguments.
Fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04 Beta 2 and suspend isn't working
I can hear the HDD head park and the screen goes black, but the fan is still spinning and the power button LED is still on
Checked pm-suspend.log and it says that suspend was performed normally.
http://pastebin.com/q7NnGGKi
>>53748655
Has it worked before?
>>53748610
>it's doing way too much
It's replacing and unifying tools which were usually hacked together by people used before.
Regarding those binary logs: every file on your computer is binary, including your text files. It just happens that you have plenty of software which can read them. You didn't specify how the binary logs are affecting you negatively. You will most likely post about corruption or something which has been tackled by other people (I won't post those articles, since you or anyone else isn't going to read them anyway).
>http://judecnelson.blogspot.nl/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html
I could also link you Poettering's response to that, but I won't. That's not even the point. The point was that you're blindly adopting opinions just to have one. People like you are obnoxious as fuck and I'm feeling 2nd hand embarrassment whenever I see someone post that. Anyone with half a brain can see through your posts.
I'm not even a systemd fan. I use it because it works, it's actively developed and backed by a company and widely adopted. I am not a power user, so it doesn't affect me. Therefore I don't adopt foreign opinions about things that I don't understand fully just to appear smart. You should consider doing the same.
>>53748685
Before this I used Ubuntu Gnome on 15.10, then updated that to 16.04 and it didn't work. Thought that it was maybe some upgrade issue, so I did a fresh install of normal 16.04, but looks like it's something that changed from 15.10 to 16.04
>>53748696
To clarify, it worked perfectly well on 15.10
>>53748696
Question:
Were you using proprietary AMD drivers?
>>53748708
Nope proprietary AMD drivers work like shit with the intel + amd combo, so I've been on the open source ones
>>53748716
Maybe I should just reinstall 15.10 and wait for 16.04 to come out normally
>>53748696
I guess the beta release is living up to its beta status, yeah.
>>53748691
>It's replacing and unifying tools which were usually hacked together by people used before.
Yes, and I don't like that.
>Regarding those binary logs: every file on your computer is binary, including your text files
Nice way to completely avoid the actual issue.
>The point was that you're blindly adopting opinions just to have one
If that's what you need to believe to feel better, go ahead.
>People like you are obnoxious as fuck
So are people like you, who just spout whatever bullshit to appear smarter without actually having any counter-arguments, and just say "you're just following someone else's opinion!!!!" and then disregard any issues someone might have.
Grow up, not everyone has to use whatever you use.
Besides, I don't think an autist fight should go into an /flt/, so I don't know why you're trying to make a big thing out of me simply disliking systemd.
>>53748716
Hmm. That's sort of weird. I have this problem where if I don't use proprietary drivers on any distro or DM I can't use suspend, otherwise it does that.
Since 16.04 doesn't support proprietary drivers I thought you could have that issue, but guess not.
>>53748727
I'm excited for 16.04, since it's going to be a(n) LTS.
I don't know if I'm going to have a fresh install or not.
>>53748542
Never mind, I'm dumb.
>>53748749
>I have this problem where if I don't use proprietary drivers on any distro or DM I can't use suspend
What hardware?
>>53748801
i5 4460/r9 280x/8gb of RAM.
This isn't strictly a linux problem, but maybe maybe linux can help me fix it:
I wanted to create a swap parition for linux on my ssd after I'd already installed linux. I moved the root and home paritions to another drive with GParted and then created an extended partition. I already had Windows 10 dual-booting with linux on this machine. So I moved the partitions back to the extended partition and nothing would boot. Managed to get linux to show up in GRUB again but Windows 10 was gone. I ran boot-repair from a live usb and it made one of my storage drives into a EFI System Partition, which I am unable to access. So, I is there a way to get my data off of this HDD?
TL; DR version
boot-repair turned one of my storage drives in to an EFI System Partition, is there a way to recover the data?
Okay, i'm in the process of storing my dotfiles in a repo. I have a couple qyestions.
1 i want to keep dotfiles for 2 computers. They are mostly similar, but with a few differences. Should i keep them in separate repos ir different branches on the same repo?
2 is it possible to create a script that will fetch the appropriate dit files, and check/install certain packages?
>>53749731
if they're short/simple scripts, why not just make one script for both computer that checks something like $HOSTNAME then executes whatever?
>>53749889
Yeah, that should provably do it
>>53747473
"iso" semi-officially refers to an image of an ISO9660 filesystem, as used by the CD-ROM standard, though in common usage it's used for any kind of optical disc image (including raw 2336/2352-byte sector dumps, as well as UDF images, the filesystem used on DVDs)
"img" on the other hand, is just a shortened "image", not an actual format. common use is as any kind of (typically raw) disk image (cd/dvd/hdd/floppy/etc)
>>53749549
windows seriously formatted one your volumes without explicit instruction? shit
can you confirm if it's actually formatted and not just a partition type change?
I have a VPS (Debian). If I get a domainname, how do I set it up so it directs to my server? And what do I need to configure on my server?
>>53750204
I don't think it is formatted, it shows as an EFI System Partition in Disk Manager and a Microsoft Basic Partition is GParted. In Linux I can't mount or see the files.
Disk 5 in the pic is the drive in question.
>>53750276
>4TB EFI partition
That's a lot of kernels you can fit there.
>>53750276
disk manager won't tell you shit, if you mark any partition as EFI type, windows will assume that's what it is
can you post a dump of the first few sectors?
>>53745674
ls -al cwd
I know that ls is listing things
a for all things
l for a long listing format.
What is cwd?
Current working directory?
When I did this in /proc/1 as a root user, it showed me something like this:
l(for linked)permissions 1 root root 0 Date hour cwd -> /
Anyone willing to explain [cwd -> /]?
>>53750378
>can you post a dump of the first few sectors?
Can I do this in Windows or do I need to boot into linux?
Also, in GParted the drive shows a 128MB partition that was initially EFI but is now unallocated after I deleted it. Did I err?
>>53750397
the cwd in "ls -al cwd" is just referring to a file called "cwd"
as for "[cwd -> /]", cwd is a link to /
>>53750447
it is possible to do that in windows, though i'm not sure windows comes with a tool to do so
>>53750447
space becomes unallocated once you un-allocate it (delete the partition that was allocated there)
>>53750462
Ah, I see.
Man, that it can so simple that I overlooked it...
Thank you alot.
>>53750560
not everything is more complicated than they seem
>>53750488
>(delete the partition that was allocated there)
This is safe and won't damage things further?
Does anyone here use openSuse? Specifically, Tumbleweed. Would you say that it's fairly user-friendly? Can you share your overall experience?
>>53750713
you just said you delete it
>>53750738
oh, I misunderstood your response. I thought you were asking me to delete the unallocated partition.
So I'm in linux now, how do I get the dump of the sectors?
Hello anons, I've come to you for help.
Recently I formatted my hard drive in order to install an Ubuntu/Windows dual boot system, I backed up all my Ubuntu home folder on an external hard drive using rsync but yesterday I found out that a VeraCrypt volume with a lot of important information had a 0 kb filesize on the back up, so I guess the file copied wrong.
I have tried to find out deleted partitions using TestDisk as well as recovering files with no extension (using Photorec) but it didn't find anything. Can I specify the filesize range (it was about 50 GB) in any gnu recovery program?
>>53750488
This is what the drive looks like in GParted. It shows the partition as boot. :S
>>53750799
dont install windows it creates mustard gas
>>53750755
you can't delete an "unallocated partition"
unallocated means nothing is allocated there, it's like a blank piece of paper, nothing is on it, so nothing can be erased
>So I'm in linux now, how do I get the dump of the sectors?dd if=/dev/sdz bs=4096 count=2 | base64 > twosectors.txt
change "sdz" to suit, 8k is too big for a 4chan post, so use pastebin or something
needs to be run as root, ALWAYS read and understand any commands posted here before running them, especially as root
this dump may contain sensitive information (small details about things on the disk)
>>53750821
>>53750866
looking at that you might not need to do anything special, it's recognized as an ntfs partition
the usage looks valid, too
try mounting itmkdir /tmp/disk
mount -v -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /tmp/disk -o ro
(both as root)
>>53750866
Okay, I got this when I ran that:
>bash: twosectors.txt: Permission denied
I wonder: would be possible to use GParted to change the flag from boot to something else that will let me access the drive normally?
>>53750903
Nice, that worked, I'm in! So should I run this>>53750866 now or what?
>>53750915
it seems / is read-only, you're probably in a livecd, you can't create a text file there
>would be possible to use GParted to change the flag from boot to something else that will let me access the drive normally?
from the looks of things, if you can mount it, it's likely just the flags and type that have been modified, ----
>>53750946
cool, just remove the flags and set the partition type back to "microsoft basic data"
>>53751002
-- since you probably don't know how, to change the type run;sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
select the partition (sda2), go to [Type], then "microsoft basic data", then [Write], then [Quit]
windows should recognize it as how it was before when you change this
Should I use chromium or firefox? Can you still customize firefox new tab pages and such with CSS and all that jazz? Does freshplayer work as good as pepperflash in chromium?
>>53751093
Haha, you're right that I don't know how; I was just searching for a guide.
When I ran your command, though, I don't see sda2.
>>53750915
>>53751002
Could just write the file to /tmp.
>>53751146
oh, it's GPT, of course, it's a 4TB drivesudo gdisk /dev/sda
enter "t", "2", "0700", "w", "q"
that's change type, partition 2, type 0700 (microsoft basic data), write, quit. for your reference
>>53751174
not required anymore, the partition's original contents are intact (mounting it proved it wasn't formatted to EFI's fat32)
>>53751213
>not required anymore, [...]
Well, for future reference.
>>53751255
yea, i considered "~/Desktop", but wasn't sure if he'd have a visible graphical desktop
i figured he'd stay in ~, which is usually simpler to get to than /tmp
/tmp is of course where you'd normally put stuff like this
>>53751213
Yes! This worked, thank you so much.
>>53751320
i presume you mean it works in windows? linux doesn't really care about partition types, as far as it's concerned, if it contains an ntfs volume, it's an ntfs partition
windows is more picky
also, np
>>53751340
Yeah, the hdd is recognized and accessible in windows, is what I mean.
I think I'm going to run linux as a virtual machine from now on until I get more experience with it. I don't want to risk any more data loss because of inexperience/incompetence.
>>53751379
you don't have to main linux for it to be useful, as you can see
>>53751396
Indeed.
I've tried installing audacity but I got this error when running it, I'm on arch
http://pastebin.com/AtmPGx22
If I can't ping a site but I know it's not down and I've used wget with it before is it safe to assume robots.txt cucked me?
When you look at that baby don't you think about all the possibilities, how she will grow up and learn about free software and she will be the first generation to be free from proprietary bondage
>>53751869
robots.txt doesn't affect ping, robots.txt doesn't actually restrict anything, it's up to the client to read and adhere to the contents of robots.txt
it's more likely the server is simply configured not to respond to pings
>>53751917
I can't get into the site with a browser either though, don't even get a gateway error or whatever, it just keeps loading until connection breaks. I've heard that using a crawler like wget cnn get you blocked from sites and that's the only explanation I can think off.
>>53751974
it's possible you're blacklisted, but robots.txt doesn't do that, are you certain it's not down, though? try
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
>Try any nVidia driver or that Noveu alternative
>Ubuntu can't connect to my mini DisplayPort after I shut down the monitor
>Remove any and all GPU drivers
>Actually works
wtf?
Installed the Numix-Frost-themes from the AUR, anyone else have problems with them?
Firslty, the light version is not light, secondly, there's some wierd shit happening if you hover over any of the window controls.
Man, I love me some Numix Frost Light, shuch a shame.
>>53752039
Nouveau is available from the default install. If you tried to install it yourself over it, that probably messed things up, and then when you removed whatever you did it could do its thing.
>>53752089
You can just edit the numix gtk.css and gtk-dark.css files and put your own colors!
>>53751107
I'd say Firefox. Chromium is open source so it's probably not botnet, but Firefox still has more, better add-ons available. Also, Chromium might run a little faster but I've noticed it seems to be a little more of a resource hog, especially when you use a lot of tabs.
>>53752143
Never thought of that. But it still won't fix the issues with the buttons.
>>53750824
It's already too late, I've installed Windows. Am I fucked now?
>>53752248
throw windows out of your computer or throw your computer out the window
or get brutally dismembered by the increasing cloud of mustard gas emitting from your cpu
>>53752248
>Am I fucked now?
It's to late now. This message will be intercepted by Microsoft servers and will be rewritten to tell you Windows is awesome and best thing ever since woolly blankets
![6313100-Mother-feeding-her-happy-little-cute-daughter-Stock-Photo-baby-eating-food[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ReCaleK.jpg "6313100-Mother-feeding-her-happy-little-cute-daughter-Stock-Photo-baby-eating-food[1].jpg")
let's say I've got a nice monospace bitmap font I want to set as the default in my arch install. how do I go about doing that?
