Previously on: >>53718710
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
>>53726025
Guys I'm afraid I have to go a bit FrankenDebian here. There's some software that I need that isn't in the repos for Debian, but that is available as an .sh
What's the most sensible way to go about installing this?
>>53726103
Only a .sh? Show what you want to install pls.
Simple shell script don't break anything.
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>>53726132
https://www.continuum.io/downloads
to get
http://jupyter.org/
because it's recommended here
https://jupyter.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install.html
to finally install
http://julialang.org/
to be able to use Julia with Jupyter Notebook
Yeah, I know. It's a mess. It's not so bad in my Mint laptop but this is Debian and I know it ought to be treated with more respect. But I need that end result for one of my classes, to be able to use julia with jupyter notebook without hassles
Going through the arch beginners guide.
>Any existing partition table can be identified with the following command for each device:
# parted /dev/sdx print
However, if my HDD does not have an existing partition table, what can determine if it needs MBR or GPT?
>>53726167
Since it's packaged into a .sh, it doesn't affect the package structure, so everying should work out fine.
>>53726189
Well a drive can be either. How old is your PC? If in doubt just use MBR/bios though, it's the most consistent method and rarely has issues the other solves. GPT is nice I guess, but UEFI is nasty as fuck much of the time.
I'd just use MBR.
>>53726208
And how do I uninstall it, if it ever causes trouble? it seems to install into a folder in / called anaconda3
>>53726208
Well that was a bad post. What I actually meant to say: Your system only breaks when you add repos, not crated for your disto, or, when you forcibly install a package via dpkg.
>>53726247
Just check what the terminal is printing.
Usually everything should go into ~/stuff
So deleting the direcory = uninstall.
>>53726247
Think of ths .sh file as an self extracting zip archive.
>>53726314
that is awful advice
>>53726369
In his case it actually is.
When are you goys going to buy a proper linuxphone?
>his phone lags and doesn't run fully blown LaTeX or the steam client
How do you sleep at night you cuck?
>>53726469
>he carries a spy device
Enjoy your botnet.
>>53726440
it's more that he could think of all .sh files in that way. You also don't know any side effects the script may have. Although in this instance it seems to just create a new directory it could be modifying other files too
>>53726526
>>53726314
>>53726286
>>53726259
Guy who asked for help here, I was wrong, it actually extracted to /home/anaconda3 and you guys were right, uninstalling it basically just deleting the folder. Kept an eye on the terminal and everything looked like it went there.
Thanks guys. And I'll keep in mind that .sh's are not always like zip archives.
Why does arch wiki recommend I partition the root directory to 15-20 GB of space? Doesn't this partition contain mostly everything?
Took an old computer I had in the basement for some maintenance, HDD got fucked so I replaced it and now it's running Ubuntu 14 (did I fuck up by not loading it with 16?). Never used Linux before, but I more or less have it set up to do similar tasks to my main computer. It's pretty neat, need to get more acquainted with using terminal commands though. Any tips?
>>53726730
Nevermind, filesystems are deceiving. The home directory is itself a partition which I can allocate most of my HDD to it seems.
When I try to use dnf to autoremove packages, I am greeted with this text.
Should I go ahead with it? Why would Fedora want me to remove gnome-terminal, open-ssh server, etc.?
> Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
If I go ahead and install the latest Ubuntu LTS beta when the final product comes out next month can I just smoothly upgrade from the beta to the actual release?
iptables is so damn terrible.
why hasn't pf been ported to linux yet?
Is there actually all that much benefit to being on a "bleeding edge" distro most of the time? Like in most cases, are the new features you get a month earlier worth having all the instability that comes with them?
>>53727028
Yes, and it's more than a month.
I just installed manjaro. Now What? Like seriously, I'm not new to computers at all, but i never used a linux distro before. Dont know what to do other than browse the web.
>>53727060
Just use it till you run into a problem. Problems exist for learning.
Reminder that the stuff on the arch wiki also works for Manjaro.
>>53727060
Learn shell scripting. Try to automate things to save time.
>>53727028
What makes you think bleeding edge means unstable? You can make a release and have it be stable without it proving itself after 6 months.
>>53727106
>>What makes you think bleeding edge means unstable?
/g/ memes
>>53727060
>I just installed manjaro.
Ok, go back and start over, you fucked up.
>>53727028
You only need bleeding edge software if you need the features of bleeding edge software.
i.e. I want uefi emulation in bhyve, so I had to run the bleeding edge freebsd until recently.
i.e. I want latest gns3 for cisco lab, which means I need arch/gentoo. debian has some super old version.
If you do not need unsupported, untested, and unstable features of new software, there is no reason to use bleeding edge distros.
>>53727060
I don't understand the question 'now what'. Use it like you would any other computer.
How do I upgrade to unstable?
Just changing all the 'testing' here to 'unstable'?
Because I tried that and it gave me a bunch of failed connection errors when I did aptitude update. Maybe one of these isn't necessary or is written wrong?#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.3.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20160123-18:59]/ jessie contrib main non-free
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.3.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20160123-18:59]/ jessie contrib main non-free
deb http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main contrib non-free
>>53727167
KEEP IN MIND the two 'unstable' in that code are actually testing, I was actually in the middle of editing the file again.
So don't be alarmed by that, I'm not using both unstable and testing.
>>53727167
unstable doesn't have a seperate updates suite
>>53727215
or sercurity updates, remove or comment those sections
also don't forget to update and upgrade afterwards
>>53727215
so it's justdeb http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
?
What about security.debian.org?
>>53727127
>/g/ memes
>>53727250
Yeah that's all you need, unstable doesn't get security updates either
>>53727123
This is a friendly thread, spread your memes somewhere else faggot.
>>53727263
>>53727215
>>53727247
Okidoke. Thanks guys
>>53727271
I meant: >>53727127
Is bsd talk welcome here? not sure how friendly is friendly, and how quickly it will devolve into controversial topics that will remain unnamed.
>>53727315
afaik /g/ already has a bsd general
>>53727315
I'd totally move to bsd if it had btrfs and more packages. Though I hear you can emulate linux software.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TZxlssckjE
>>53726025
Is it possible to flash the BIOS on a THinkpad T400 to Coreboot/Libreboot but still maintain use of the integrated Mobility Radeon GPU?
I'd like to give it a shot but I don't want to be stuck with the integrated Intel 4500MHD.
Is the choice between Ubuntu MATE and Linux Mint basically cosmetic, or is there more to it?
If it's more than cosmetic, which do you prefer and why?
Backups: 'Grsync' or 'Back In Time'?
so in Debian Testing and Unstable, Iceweasel is now Firefox. how long until IceDove becomes Thundebird?
>>53727462
these videos really creep me out
they're all the same
>>53727550
my first choice is zfs send/receive
my second choice is a custom rsync script that symlinks unchanged files.
What's wrong with Manjaro and Antergos?
Is it just people who feel personally offended those two exist because they installed Arch the hard way, or are there legit problems with them?
What are the downsides of atom compared to GNU emacs?
>>53727700
Antergos makes you choose your DE at installation, which can feel less like Arch where you build your desktop from the ground up. I realize Manjaro has a minimal installation which is nice, but it''s also not as bleeding edge as Arch because it's more downstream which kind of defeats the purpose. Basically there's huge difference between an installer like Architect and a separate OS like Antergos or Manjaro, it's like the difference between Ubuntu and Debian.
>>53727707
Atom is spying by default.
Atom can't handle huge files.
It's made by shithub people.
It's JS.
>>53727700
Nothing wrong with Manjaro. It's like you said >offended because easy way. There was this thing a year ago where the devs of the Manjaro forum forgot to update their cert and suggested the visitors to turn their system clock some days back. That was wierd, but except that, they do a good job with their distro and the community is growing.
Manjaro is good for someone who wants arch, but doesn't have enough time to build and maintain everything manually.
I don't know anything about Antergos, but people say it's basically just an installer, plus, rebranding every "Arch" with "Antergos". Better use architect here.
>>53727315
>>53727334
>>53727395
Why would you ever move to BSD? Like there is only one developer per distro. It's years behind Ganuuh/Lenux
What file manager do internet sites use on Linux to upload stuff? Like when I upload a pic to 4chan, what pops up? I only ask because uploading files is annoying with no real preview function, yeah there's a mini-preview but it doesn't do .gifs or .webms.
>>53728031
Their license appeals to my ideals more. Their standard of quality is higher.
Will my peers/elders in a Bioinformatics lab look down upon me for using Linux Mint? Starting my MSc soon
>>53728033
KDE has thumbnail preview. Either you switch to KDE or just drag and drop from your real file manager.
>>53728040
lol
10/10, made me laugh IRL
>>53728041
If someone looks down on you for using a different Linux distro from theirs, they're a /g/-memester incarnate and you want to avoid them like the plague anyway.
Distro elitism is cancer
>>53728040
>Their license appeals to my ideals more.
Okay I get that.
>Their standard of quality is higher.
None is doing any developing on it. Like I said it's years behind loonex. There is a reason none uses them anymore. But go ahead and actually try it, instead of being in love with the ideal that they represent. See if you actually like the OS itself
>>53728065
Fuck off GNUtard.
>>53728040
BSD has more than one licenses, you should have knew that. Nice bait.
>>53728041
>elders
As long as you do everything in Fortran they don't care what distro you use.
>>53728078
>But go ahead and actually try it
I'm not going to because liking their license isn't enough for me to give up btrfs and a larger range of software. In an ideal world it would be superior but it's not yet.
>>53728040
>A license that allows some random company to take your code, make it proprietary and sell it back to you, like the cuck you are
into the trash it goes
>>53728031
That's a loaded question.
There are lots of small things that I like in the bsd's:
PF syntax kicks the shit out of iptables.
Jails have root isolation
Automatic encrypted zfs root install
ctrl-t shows progress on cli utilities
native dtrace integration
poudriere is just the most amazing thing ever
telnet can specify source address
seperation of base vs 3rd party
zfs boot environments
better top (but worse grep)
rc.conf for init config
>>53728073
Thanks, I'll keep using it for now
>>53728088
I said elders, not ancients. They use MATLAB
>>53728133
I'd browse the web in matlab if I could
>>53728140
>2016
>Still using MATLAB
>Not Mathematica
Step it up senpai
could someone link me an image with arch installation inforgraph?
>>53728133
>>53728140
>MATLAB
>more like MethLab amiright
>plz laugh
>>53727060
>back to windows and play games
seriously
>>53728109
This.
WTFPL, CC0 and BSD licensing is literally cuckolding.
>>53728147
>proprietary software
>RMSdisgusted.png
>>53728170
>they are literally holding the cuck
>>53728147
Literally never seen or heard of a single researcher using Mathematica
Also, >>53728185
What is the preferred way to improve font rendering on Debian?
I don't know how to explain it, but fonts just don't seem as 'sharp' and clear out of the box.
>>53728207
I guess it depends on your field. In Physics we use Mathematica a lot in my faculty, along with Julia
>>53728056
How does KDE use a different program to upload files onto the internet? I have KDE and noticed it was different, even if you're using a different default file manager.
>>53728127
I'm not denying the fact that they have great things. It's just that it seems like getting a car, which you can run on that one race track built in 1993, based on the idea that your like the bumpers they use
>>53728232
The file manager and the file picker (for up/downloading) are two complete different programs, they just look simliar because they share the same theme.
Does anyone else get the problem with Nautilus that your clicks aren't registered sometimes, and you have to press enter to access a folder?
>>53728251
what?
>>53728304
Lack of hardware support. For our to work you need to have that specific 373888 Intel series made exactly on the 1998-06-02 at precisely 15:45. The internet card had to have been built but druids on a fool moon with the blood of virgins. And it all needs to be in a case made out of mithril by dwarven master smiths.
>>53728364
Aaaand I just assassinated English language. Thnx autocorrect
>>53728364
Video and wifi are unsupported voodoo.
Freebsd supports every dell/supermicro/hp I've thrown at it.
since swap acts as RAM assuming i have an SSD if i installed a linux distro and set about 8 gigs for swap and then turned off the pc and removed my RAM would my pc still be able to boot up and run?
Why does delete on Nautilus seemingly not work sometimes? I'll delete a bunch of files and they'll still be there even after I supposedly emptied the trash.
post wallpapers with the debian logo please
I want to change it from the default but still having that sweet debian-ness
>>53728458
I hope you like idols.
>>53728473
Well, I'm not an anime kinda guy but thanks for the contribution anyway
>>53728480
Welcome. This one isn't mine, but maybe it'd be better.
>>53728493
that one's really cool. saved
feel free to post more if you have them. i'm going to bed but will check in the morning just in case
>>53728434
no
why would you even ask that
>>53728514
The only other one I had is also anime (and also the one I pretty much ripped off when making the Umi background). Good night anon.
>>53728458
Best one
>>53728493
>unreadable text
Thnx
>>53728524
care to explain why not?
A supply of tea with milk and sugar would be nice. If it is tea I
really like, I like it without milk and sugar. With milk and sugar,
any kind of tea is fine. I always bring tea bags with me, so if we
use my tea bags, I will certainly like that tea without milk or sugar.
>>53728602
Computers can't work without Random access memory. It's how they are designed from the ground up, their architecture etc.
>>53728602
because there's no memory, and swap is definitely not memory
>>53726025
jesus fucking christ
>>53727700
for me i couldnt even install Antergos. you are required to have an internet connection and it wasnt reading my wifi card so i couldnt connect. i know my wifi card is compatible because it worked on arch. i even tried setting it up in the terminal like i would while installing arch but iw dev didnt work and i couldnt find any answers online so i just gave up. currently downloading apricity to try
as far as Manjaro pacman was fucked up for me and i couldnt install gnome because a couple packages refused to install
could some one explain me, how to install pipe menu called "Python xdg menu from fedora" on arch?
>>53728697
forgot to mention this should be installed on openbox
>>53726103
I have a Dell Optiplex GX620 that's sitting around and I really want to be free as in freedom.
Any suggestions on which distro? I've been eyeing Lubuntu...I want Arch though to be ultimate cool
>>53728652
oh wow lol
>>53728652
I fear my intellectual faculty is severely lacking, due to the fact that I can't grasp his profound words
I am having problems with an external hard drive that works fine on Windows but won't connect when using Manjaro.
>>53728609
I read Stallman's requests list once, and it was fun.
It's super long and I expected a bunch of autistic rockstar shit but instead it was a bunch of autistic down to earth shit like "If I am going to be giving a full length talk I would like a pepsi to drink" and "If I stay at your house I would like a quiet place to sleep and a heater" etc etc.
>>53728877
>proprietary soft drinks
>disgusted.png
>>53728891
isn't Pepsi's recipe open source? unlike Coke.
>>53728899
Seriously? Also we all know cocaine is Cola's secret recipe. It's why it's often called coke
>>53728877
I'm still reading it. It's a beast of text.
>>53726878
never used dnf but if its autoremove is anything like apt's, it's bullshit
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/28/nsa-backdoor-found-in-linux-kernel
>>53728918
Cocaine isn't in Coca Cola. It used to be, but now the leaves from the Coca plant (that is used to make cocaine) goes through a process at a specific plant to remove the cocaine element and the resulting coca-free stuff is used to make coca cola.
The plant is on the east coast and it is the only one in the US authorized to import untreated coca leaves.
>>53728225
You use this simple fontconfig. Put it into
>~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
This one disables hinting for italic and bold fonts.<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="autohint"> <bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting"> <bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"> <const>lcddefault</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"> <const>hintslight</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias"> <bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba"> <const>rgb</const></edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<test name="pixelsize" qual="any" compare="more"><double>15</double></test>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<test name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<test name="slant" compare="not_eq"><double>0</double></test>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="lcdfilter"><const>lcdlight</const></edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
>>53728960
>2015
>can't even open the article doesn't exist
>>53728993
> Giant million pixel tall list of instructions
> Top says "Beginner's Guide"
Hahahahaha
>>53729017
whats so funny about that? its aimed at beginners so you would expect more detailed explanations. there is a concise installation guide on the wiki that is about a 1/10th the length of that one.
>>53729017
>giant
Getting ready to try linux. Fedora 23 Workstation or Ubuntu 16.04 Beta? Intel IGP btw. I have both downloaded and just can't decide.
>>53729049
flip a coin
>>53727255
well the presentation was harsh but he's right
if you're scared of the Arch installer it's better to use Architect than to use a derivative distro
>>53729017
It has as many pixels as there are different computer set-ups. All those useless "infographics" that you prefer are written for one very niche and specific use case. Read: useless.
Using the official and useful beginner's guide, you can skip past the parts not useful for you.
If I am quite sleepy, I would like two cans or small bottles of
non-diet Pepsi. (I dislike the taste of coke, and of all diet soda;
also, there is an international boycott of the Coca Cola company for
killing union organizers in Colombia and Guatemala; see
killercoke.org.) However, if I am not very sleepy, I won't want
Pepsi, because it is better if I don't drink so much sugar.
JUST TEAR MY FUCKING SCREEN UP NVIDIA
>>53729254
compton --backend glx
>>53729260
Thanks senpai.
>>53729104
The official beginners guide is still limited to specific use-cases. If you want to customize things to your needs, you either need to know how to do it or start to read other pages on the wiki.
Not that this is really bad, just saying that the beginner's guide isn't a catch-them all either.
>>53729624
No, you don't. The beginner's guide is for installing the base, not more or not less. Installing X, your desktop, other software and setting up things is a completely different topic. Those awful infographics also suck at that. They tell you to use things you might not even want. Example: that one idiot who recommends zsh instead of bash for people who don't even use 5% of bash. He probably does that because he thinks on zsh can have a fancy prompt.
>>53729762
>only zsh can have a fancy prompt*
I tried paying a 1080p movie on Ubuntu with the default video player and it was awful, chopy and laggy as hell, did some research found out it might be my gpu drivers causing the problem, I go and download gpu drivers from amd site (yes I am a poorfag) and now I have no idea how to install them , they end with . deb
Any ideas?
>>53729816
>paying for movies
lmao
>>53729762
I'm not talking about X or something like that.
Want to encrypt your disks? You need more than the beginner's guide.
Want to split your installation between hdd and ssd? Again, you need more than the beginner's guide.
The beginner's guide gives you a simple, running system. Nothing less, but also nothing more.
>>53729816
You don't download and install drivers from AMD's website; you use your distribution's packages.
Open the software center or update option, however it's called, then go to "Additional drivers" and you should be able to choose from the free drivers (that you're most likely currently using) or the proprietary ones.
No idea if that will improve your video playing experience. You might want to try a different player like mpv, or VLC.
>>53729830
Lmao, ****PLAYING ******
>>53729842
>Want to encrypt your disks? You need more than the beginner's guide.
Obviously you need more, but the guide points you to the right direction. It doesn't assume you want or don't want to encrypt. Those shitty infographics do and they don't give you anything else.
>Want to split your installation between hdd and ssd? Again, you need more than the beginner's guide.
The beginner's guide tells you about partitioning and how to generally do it. Links to the partitioning article are also there.
>The beginner's guide gives you a simple, running system. Nothing less, but also nothing more.
That's the whole point. It covers all the possible scenarios for the installation.
>>53729863
Sure, they do link you to other pages.
But the examples given do assume certain choices.
>In the examples below it is assumed that a new and contiguous partitioning scheme is applied to a single device. Some optional partitions will also be created for the /boot and /home directories which otherwise would simply be contained in the / partition.
Does anyone know how to get the gamecube adapter to work with Dolphin in Linux?
>>53730118
>pacman -Sy
>telling people to do the one thing that's not recommended to do in terms of package management on arch
Those shitty guides are like a gift that keeps on giving. Every time I look at it, I notice something ridiculous.
>>53729986
My PSX->USB adapters work just fine out of the box, but being adapters for different controllers I guess that's not all too relevant here. Is it not working on the system at all, or is it just Dolphin? I like to launch Antimicro to check if my controllers are properly recognised and functional, which can also be used to map the buttons to the keyboard in a pinch, although analogue stuff will be iffy.
evening /g/
I've just purchased a 2 in 1 inspiron which naturally is a touchscreen.
I would like to make the switch to a decent linux distro but I'm concerned about wasting the touch potential, support etc.
What are the most stable choices here?
Or alternatively should I just do an enterprise install of win10 so I disable the botnet
>>53730150
What's correct? Plebian here, never played with pacman.
>>53730191
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>53730150
What's wrong with that?
>>53730194
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_maintenance#Partial_upgrades_are_unsupported
>>53730118
Don't post this shit, there's no pre installation network configuration.
>>53730177
Isn't working with the system at all.
>>53730219
Shouldn't pacman throw a warning and/or require an override if the user tries to -Sy package? That wiki entry makes it sound serious enough that such a thing could make many a headache avoided.
>>53730215
See >>53730219.
People following those shitty guides obviously never see messages like that, which are written in bold, red textboxes. Then their shit gets fucked up and they end up complaining.
>>53730255
What you linked there doesn't say that -Sy is the problem.
>>53730228
Does dmesg recognise it when it's plugged in?
Depending on distribution, maybe a package has to be installed to support such input devices? Just a random thought. Speaking of which, I should have mentioned it in the last post, but try to give as much information as possible, in the ways of distribution, kernel version and so on. What the adapter is called, too.
![Baby+Oscar[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1EZFJdR.jpg "Baby+Oscar[1].jpg")
>>53730206
>mfw when I thought I could avoid this by using "distro" after linux
What is the best choice GNU/Linux distro for a touchscreen laptop?
>>53729986
https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=How_to_use_the_Official_GameCube_Controller_Adapter_for_Wii_U_in_Dolphin#Linux
>>53730255
>>53730262
Or, to elaborate on it:
The system was just freshly pacstrapped, outdated libraries are pretty unlikely.
>>53730262
What is the problem?
>>53730247
I don't know to be honest. I've been using Arch for 2 years now and never found myself in a situation where I'd need to update the repository database, without upgrading my packages. Maybe -Sy has its use, but I haven't been in such a position yet.
I am glad to give interviews to the press about the GNU system, but
before I do, I want to be sure they will not repeat the two common
mistakes (calling the whole system "Linux" and associating GNU or me
with "open source"). Please explain this, and ask the journalist if
he will agree to call the system "GNU/Linux" in the article, and to
make it clear that our work is "free software" not "open source".
Recommend reading http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html and
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html for
explanations of these issues. If the journalist agrees, then I agree
to an interview.
>>53730318
The problem is installing packages requiring updated libraries without updating the libraries as well.
Very unlikely to be a problem not solvable by updating your system.
It's pointless to run pacman -Sy but in the given example it wasn't dangerous either
>>53730318
>I don't know to be honest. I've been using Arch for 2 years now and never found myself in a situation where I'd need to update the repository database, without upgrading my packages. Maybe -Sy has its use, but I haven't been in such a position yet.
Well, I mean, no matter whether it has its use or not, there are people that are going to do -Sy package. Whether they have their own reason for it or because they've read that guide or whatever, they'll run it. So if it can potentially cause serious problems (the wiki entry seems to imply it's conceivable for pacman to break) I just feel it should somehow discourage the user from doing so.
>flt threads months ago
>people ask questions, post issues
>people answer them
>flt threads now
>50% of the thread is the same copy/pasted RMS shit over and over again because someone discovered the epic free software meme just now
>have to waste precious kilobytes on inane text every time I open the thread
Above 72 fahrenheit (22 centigrade) I find sleeping quite difficult.
(If the air is dry, I can stand 23 degrees.) A little above that
temperature, a strong electric fan blowing on me enables me to sleep.
More than 3 degrees above that temperature, I need air conditioning to
sleep.
So I got these two tablets right here which I haven't used in ages, and I kinda want to again.
One is a Samsung ATIV Tab 3. It's an Intel Atom x86 tablet, one of those pesky UEFI 32 bit tablets which is locked down to death by their manufacturer. So much that it doesn't even support Windows 10, though most drivers work fine. 8.1 is shit, 10 is utter shit in this tablet. I have tried to install Debian on it, the multiarch image for testing, but after choosing any of the boot options it just hangs. I'm wondering if I can even install any distro at all in this thing.
The second one is a Note 8.0. That thing is nowhere near as bad with Android on it, but I still wanted something more. Did anyone ever attempt to install a linux distro on it?
>>53730419
I don't see your question that needs to be answered. Just your inane comment
>>53727700
1. Arch install isn't that hard, beginner guide walks you through everything
2. derivative distros are always bad
3. if you can't do the normal install you can still use architect to get normal Arch
>>53728127
>ctrl-t shows progress on cli utilities
amazing
can you make a webm of that?
>>53730464
specifically while rsync is running would be really cool
>>53729017
IF you actually read it you'd see you only need to look at very small bits of each section, it just explains what's going on and also has info to help with various situations
I know you are dumb but I'm not okay with it
>>53730455
>3. if you can't do the normal install you can still use architect to get normal Arch
That's retarded as well. Why do you people fail to understand that one of the core principles of keeping things simple is avoiding unnecessary abstractions?
Enjoy using that installer and then finding yourself in a situation where you need, for example, to add a new locale, but you don't exactly know how since the installer abstracted and hid the procedure from you.
>>53730475
I'm pretty sure there's such a utility which works for Linux and all the GNU coreutils. I forgot its name, but I'll try to dig it up.
>>53729254
>>53729260
>>53729475
but that doesn't actually work
why do people suggest this and pretend it works?
>>53729816dpkg -i blahblah.deb
>>53726025
Any suggestions for a lightweight Window manager with as little non-window related extras as possible? I don't need a start bar or a desktop or icons or anything i just want windows.
>>53730294
touchscreen support will mostly be in the kernel
as for things like a popup touchscreen keyboard or generally touchscreen-friendly apps, that is more dependent on the desktop environment than the distro
the distro you pick will not matter much but perhaps you'll want to stick to the more bloated DEs like GNOME or KDE to get better support for that sort of stuff
>>53730540
>>53730475
https://github.com/Xfennec/progress
>>53730543
I don't know.
I told these niggers when I was using Ubuntu MATE that using compton wasn't working for me on AMD specifically
But not only that some guy went even further and said that no compositor there had tearing. Like c'mon now
>>53730555
That's literally what all window managers do. The taskbars, desktop icons and other stuff is handled by other components which make up a desktop environment.
>>53730419
>>50% of the thread is the same copy/pasted RMS shit over and over again because someone discovered the epic free software meme just now
>epic free software meme
>free software meme
>meme
please actually leave
>>53730530
>Enjoy using that installer and then finding yourself in a situation where you need, for example, to add a new locale, but you don't exactly know how since the installer abstracted and hid the procedure from you.
The beginner's guide covers how to do that just fine. I've done the install both ways and I don't think there's any issue with using Architect. You're literally just choosing things instead of running commands you won't remember (since most of them are never used again in the case of an install)
Even having installed Arch the normal way a few times, I can tell you I'd have to look up how to change my locale, so I don't really see what sort of advantage you think you have.
>>53730579
I've only ever had an AMD GPU once and I don't recall how my tearing situation was back then. I've had terrible tearing issues with openbox + compton and i3 + compton with all the meme flags they've thrown at me. Sure, the amount of tearing varies depending on flags and whether or not I run compton, but I've never fixed it 100%.
I hear open source drivers can fix it, and also that wayland (which happens to require open source gpu drivers atm due to lack of proprietary support) has no tearing
>>53730530
>situation where you need, for example, to add a new locale, but you don't exactly know how
So, you look it up how to do it like a sane person?
DON'T buy a parrot figuring that it will be a fun surprise for me. To
acquire a parrot is a major decision: it is likely to outlive you. If
you don't know how to treat the parrot, it could be emotionally
scarred and spend many decades feeling frightened and unhappy. If you
buy a captured wild parrot, you will promote a cruel and devastating
practice, and the parrot will be emotionally scarred before you get it.
Meeting that sad animal is not an agreeable surprise.
>>53730626
Nah, open source drivers are usually what I use. Proprietary ones have their share of problems aside from that. I can get rid of tearing on them, but then I can suffer some real performance issues. On the other hand, OSS is not so great either: Gnome/KDE/Cinnamon usually have some animations, those are quite choppy with OSS drivers.
So basically:
-With proprietary drivers without vsync, everything tears apart. Everything. Animations are 100% smooth.
-With global vsync enabled on them, everything is quite slow
-With OSS drivers, I can probably manage to get rid of tearing on the desktop, but then some application (let's say Chromium) just tears apart as well, and animations are choppy like a netbook trying to deal with it.
Maybe the 280x isn't fully supported on linux, dunno. I ain't switching til I can enjoy my eyecandy.
>>53726025
>completely dependent on (stolen) IBM technology and proprietary IBM laptop
>a bunch of extra ports (heavy) that linux cant utilize
>all free software is just pirates and ports of proprietary software
muh freedoms
>>53730732
Free software has nothing to do with hardware, fellow tech newfriend.
>>53730587
not really, just installed awesome and it give me a bar on the top with date and time, and a right click menu and all that. don't need that and don't want that.
>>53730750
are you kidding me this is all viral marketing for lenovo son
>>53730419
what icon theme is that?
>>53730732
he no longer uses a ThinkPad
>>53730750
You're not right but not that wrong either
to be as free as can be you have to also have free firmware, which is a piece of software to some people
>>53730802
not at all.. they just made the best laptops you could get for a very long time
well, I'm talking about ThinkPads, I am not trying to give Lenovo credit or anything
I downloaded lubuntu 16.04 because I wanted to try out LXQt, but when I dd the iso to my usb it doesnt make him bootable. I repeated several times.
Anyone else tried the new 16.04?
>>53730802
You have two options:
a) educate yourself about the topic, then post
b) jump in a lake
>>53730822
>it doesnt make him bootable
Maybe it's a she?
antergos update broke dolphin
pissed as fuck
>>53730821
>he no longer uses a ThinkPad
He doesn't? I have a recollection telling me he uses a Libreboot Thinkpad X60 and the only thing I could picture him switching to as of right now would be a Libreboot Thinkpad X200 or one of the other Libreboot-compatible machines from the same generation.
Do correct me if it is in fact me who is mistaken, although I doubt it given the lack of both proper and free alternatives.
>>53730854
Programs always do what the user told them.
>>53730863
not what user told them, what creator told them
>>53730822
did you make sure to sync?
did you make sure you have if and of the right way around?
>>53730869
Youre stupid.
>>53730863
w-what?
>>53730870
Yeah man, its not my first time, I figured its maybe bugged because its still in beta, although its more logical that problem is on my end.
>>53730876
*your
>>53730863
>bugs don't exist
>>53730888
it's just those are normally the fuckups I have using dd
if you got the command right, and made sure to get the right iso, then I think the problem might be on their end
>>53727798
Antergos also lets you install without a DE, and has a minimal version.
Is there any way to change mouse scroll sensitivity?
>>53731320
Yes.
>>53731320
Yup
how to create a magnet link with transmission
>>53731393
KDE kontrol panel probably (they meant)
afaik xorg and gnome cant
>>53731320
Firefox has settings for it in about:config. Don't know about other stuff.
How do I make launcher for drm free game from steam to run without steam opening?
If I run it from terminal it works (Faster Than Light example)/home/rbokij/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/FTL\ Faster\ Than\ Light/FTL
but .desktop launcher withExec=samepathdon't. Any idea how to make it work?
>>53731649
Try using "" instead \
Why doesn't tty have Asian characters? Do you need to start X to render them? I noticed I can view variations on the Latin alphabet but not Asian or Arabic symbols.
>>53732714
Check this:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/fonts#Console_fonts
You probably want KMSCON for full Unicode fonts according to that article.
Reposting here because I initially typed this in the wrong thread:
So this is the output I get when I update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade in Debian Unstable.
It's basically telling me to get outta here with that weak MEGAsync stuff.
If I just delay resolving this dependency, will anything bad happen? Should I start looking for some other file sync service? Used theDebian installerHit http://ftp.mx.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
Ign http://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/xUbuntu_15.04 ./ InRelease
Get: 1 http://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/xUbuntu_15.04 ./ Release [982 B]
Fetched 982 B in 0s (1,157 B/s)
W: http://mega.nz/linux/MEGAsync/xUbuntu_15.04/./Release.gpg: Signature by key BF8B66E01192CBA2E72201294B4E7A9523ACD201 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
ignacio@IgnacioPC:~/Documents/Physics/2016-2/TemasSelectosFisComp$ saug
Resolving dependencies...
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
ignacio@IgnacioPC:~/Documents/Physics/2016-2/TemasSelectosFisComp$ saud
The following packages will be upgraded:
megasync{b}
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,751 kB of archives. After unpacking 248 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
megasync : Depends: libcrypto++9 which is a virtual package and is not provided by any available package
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) megasync
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) megasync [2.7.2 (now)]
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.
>>53732796
And yes, I know it says Ubuntu but like I said, I used the Debian installer (9.0, because 8.0 gave me problems).
Was kinda icky to install something from outside the official repos, feared I would have this sort of issue
>>53726025
Can freetards stop using the term free? 'Freedom' or 'privacy' software is more self explanatory, any your small movement will never reach a wider audience when they think of the pirate bay every time you belligerently shout "FREE SOFTWARE".
The people skills and marketing skills of freetards is troublesome and makes me feel genuinely sorry when they try and spread the word to normies. http://youtu.be/uFMMXRoSxnA video related.
>want to force remote computer to only use wifi for internet
>delete default gateway
>ssh session closes and I can't remote into it anymore
Nice OS retards.
How can i get rid of these gray areas? They are in every search box in my browser, in youtube video controls and such things
Im using Firefox, XFCE4 with ArcDark GTK theme
>>53732831
1/10 would reply again
Not exactly a LInux question but sort of related:
How do I avoid Thunderbird/Icedove from downloading emails to my computer?
I just want it to check them from the internet, but not save them locally.
>>53732859
Do you mean the area you didn't crop or the box around the controls?
I'm making a GTK+/wm theme. Is there any guide for making one?
>>53732859
Are you using Flash or HTML5 player?
>>53732930
Use IMAP instead of POP
>>53733265
But I am using IMAP, that's the weird thing
st build options:
CFLAGS = -g -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wvariadic-macros -Os -I. -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -DVERSION="0.6" -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600
LDFLAGS = -g -L/usr/lib -lc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lm -lrt -lX11 -lutil -lXext -lXft -lfontconfig -lfreetype -lfreetype
CC = cc
CC -o st
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Makefile:27: recipe for target 'st' failed
make: *** [st] Error 1
is there anyway to tell the dependencies that I'm missing from this error?
I'm trying to build st (simple terminal). it worked fine on my desktop.
>>53733338
>LDFLAGS = -g -L/usr/lib -lc -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lm -lrt -lX11 -lutil -lXext -lXft -lfontconfig -lfreetype -lfreetype
>/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
a few more lines up it would say whats missing otherwise try without '-IXext' flag
I been using Linux for a couple of years now, 7 or so, and Arch for 4. Thought about switching to Slackware.
Anyone here has tried it?
>>53733532
using it full time, though i wouldn't recommend it
>>53733542
Why so? What kind of troubles you got?
>>53733542
Thought about something stable and minimal, my options were Slackware, Crux or something alike.
>>53733555
Also, trips
>>53733555
>Why so?
some people think a standard package manager is the foundation of a 'good' system.
>What kind of troubles you got?
i compile all my favorite programs, then say a year later i upgrade gcc or similar package and have to recompile several programs
>>53733210
Look into the GTK documentation. I hope you know your CSS. Regarding window manager themes, all of them are different, so you'll have to look for your window manager theme's spec.
Do you have a UNIX beard /flt/?
>>53733740
Not really, more like an 'Aloha Snackbar' beard.
I don't get why people would use something like Slackware and CRUX in 2016
They are just crippling themselves with those archaic tools
Especially when it comes to package management, one of the strongest points of GNU/Linux
just install gentoo
isn't the terminal promtp[group@user]$? I changed the group name withgroupmod -n new_group old_group, but the terminal prompt remained unchanged.groups userregisters the changes, so the group name is definitely different now. do I have to do something particular for specifically changing the terminal prompt?
>>53733504
ok so I removed that part from config.mk and it installed and seemingly works.
what exactly did I do?
is my terminal emulator just not linked to a certain library?
I'm guessing that I'm missing some functions of it (which I may not even need).
>>53733781
that's actually hostname and not groups
>>53733781
It depends on the distribution and how they set it up, but usually it's user@hostname.
You can change it, for bash, in your .bashrc file. Look for PS1=. THere are some nifty tools like these websites:
http://ezprompt.net/
>>53733781
It's user@host. Host is the name of your computer, localed at /etc/hostname.
>>53733781
>I changed the group name
That was brilliant. It gave me a slight chuckle.
