>AMD Polaris 10 to feature 2304 Stream Processors and 8GB GDDR5 memory
It's over, AMD is finished.
http://videocardz.com/58639/amd-polaris-10-gpu-specifications-leaked
I swear if pascal is also this shitty I'm going to an hero.
>>53673068
Oh no! It's a more efficient 390 with more features! Probably going to be the 480X!
How could AMD do this to us?!?! What did we do to deserve this?!
>>53673142
the 680 was roughly 30-40% (40% on only a few) faster than the 580.) (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1348?vs=1350)
we are comparing successors here. I.E. the 680 was the 580 successor
remember the 1080 is the successor to the 980. NOT the 980 ti. that's the 1080 ti's job
1080 being roughly 30 - 40% faster than the 980 (which would put it equal to or 10% greater than the 980 ti.
the "x70" has traditionally been 10 - 20% lower than the "x80" counterpart. this goes all the way back to the 6xxx series. I.E. the 6800gt was about 15% slower than the 6800ultra. just like the 970 is roughly 20% slower than the 980 (but the 980 has 30% increased price for that extra 20%! which has made the 980 a ****ty value)
if we take the 1080 being a full 40% faster than the 980
take the max 20% reduction for the 1070
that would put the 1070 around 20% faster than the 980 and 10% slower than the 980 ti
that's practically the 670 over the 580.
>>53673169
i think a lot of people forget about the last die shrink is that there wasn't a "ti" card in the mix. the 580 was the fastest single gpu solution on the market for nvidia. it was nvidia's single solution flagship, top dog. yes they had the 590 but it was NOT a single gpu card. it was a dual gpu card on a single pcb.
the 600 series? same exact thing. 680 was the top dog for a single gpu solution. not only that but both the 570, 580, 670, and 680 were the "big chips." they were the full fermi and keplar gpu's of their series.
starting with the 700 series this changed. the 780 was not nvidia's top dog. a new tier was added. the 780 ti followed by the titan was. maxwell 2 continued this trend but took it one step further with the 970 and 980 (gm204) not being full maxwell 2 chips. gm200 is the full maxwell 2 "big chip" and were exclusive for the 980 ti and titan x. the 970 being a cut down gm204 chip and the 980 ti being a cut down gm200 chip.
we went from "570 and 580" to "970, 980, 980 ti, and titan."
the "1080" is aimed at taking over the 980 spot. NOT the 980 ti spot. that's the "1080 ti" job.
you cannot compare the 1080 to the 980 ti since both cards are on different tier's.
another thing to note is what nvidia said: "pascal built on 16nm finfet process will offer 2x the performance per watt compared to maxwell 2." the 980 ti is 250 watts. half of 250 is 125. so that means, with no gimping, a full big pascal chip, at 125 watts, should offer the same performance as a 980 ti. the full pascal chip at 250 watts? that should offer the performance of two 980 ti's in sli. that's incredible.
>>53673179
seeing as the "1070" and "1080" are not the full pascal chips, that's being reserved apparently for the ti and titan, similar to maxwell 2's setup, the 1080 having performance near a 980 ti is perfectly reasonable. that puts it at roughly 30% increase minimum over the 980 since the 980 ti on average is 30% faster than a 980 with a similar tdp as a 980. also toss in the faster clocked gddr5 and increased memory capacity it will probably be even more faster. near beefy 980 ti overclock levels (extra ~7 - ~10%). rougly a 30 - 40% increase over the previous 980 that occupied its tier level. that's a big increase.
>>53673142
prepare the rope fagboy
It was also already confirmed to cost less than the R9 290x.
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_will_make_the_minimum_vr_spec_affordable_with_polaris/1
ok if these are both going to be shit whats the next best that's less shit available now
>>53673223
980 to or fury x
390 if on budget
>>53673281
>980 to
980 ti
>>53673068
What /g/ isn't considering is:
what if the clock speeds are high?
>>53673223
too early
>>53673303
the purported tests occurred at a clock speed of 800Mhz
28nm GCN was/is hitting 1100-1200
16nm GCN should, in theory, be capable of 1400-1600Mhz, and it baffles me that the test speeds were so low.
>>53673318
What if they're hotclocked?
>>53673337
capybara disproves of your shenanigans.
>expecting high end GPUs this year from AMD and Nvidiot
this is your fault
>>53673221
>fury performance at 290x price
holy fuck i'm going to buy this.
>>53673337
>What if they're hotclocked?
what do you mean by this?
>>53673068
>more powerful specs than previous models
>ITS OVER AMD IS FINISHED
I don't think you tards will ever be satisfied
>>53673068
>800mhz
>GDDR5 rather than 5X
It's bullshit, moron.
Polaris 10 will have well over 1ghz on the core and be running GDDR5X or GDDR6 if it gets rebranded like they've been talking about.
This is an underclocked 480X running old memory, the 490/X will have 2500+ SPs.
>>53673473
Certain components run at a different clock from the rest of the GPU
Netburst did it with the integer clusters, and Nvidia GPU's with the shaders from 2006 to 2012
>>53673161
>Oh no! It's a more efficient 390 with more features!
considering the 970 already shits all over the 390 while being cheaper than it, a 7+1gb 14nm meme card will probably kill AMD for good.
>>53673564
>running GDDR5X or GDDR6
gddr5x won't even be mass produced until after 14nm gpus from both amd and nvidia launch, and gddr6 isn't even a thing
>>53673068
As an NVidia lover, this sucks.
Whose going to go up against Nvidia now? Its over.
>>53673068
Polaris is AMD's replacment for the low to mid rang retards.
AMD Polaris 10 (full) = 380x replacement
AMD Polaris 10 (67DF) = 380 replacement
AMD Polaris 11 (67FF) = 370 replacement
Vega is AMD's replacement for Fury and 390
>>53674328
>AMD Polaris 11 (67FF) = 370 replacement
More like 240 or 250 replacement.
AMD needs to release an entry level card that the new Bristol Ridge APUs can do Dual Graphics with.
So neither Pascal or Polaris will have HBM2 in 2016? What fucking bullshit.
It's a $200-$250 GPU that can run Hitman at WQHD 60fps. Currently you need a $500 GPU for that.
What more do you want, /g/?
https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10980597&postcount=1966
>Polaris is the same Graphics IP 8.0 as Tonga/Fiji
IT'S OVER, AMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
>>53674744
The R9 390x does that for <$400 already.
>>53674984
lyl maybe with settinga disabled.
>>53675012
Oh no it looks like 0.9 FPS are missing with max settings.
We still don't know what setting Polaris 10 used and we only know that it was 60 FPS in an empty room.
>>53675053
Yeah I call bullshit on your graph.
>>53674139
>1080p
Quit memeing you twat, the 390 shits all over the 970 in 1440p performance.
>>53675053
>980ti performing worse on dx12 over 11
Fake.
>>53675111
Not fake, Nvidia dropped the ball on DX12.
>>53673068
Wait. So the earlier rumors of Polaris 10 and Nvidia's new bigger chip offering Fury X / 980 TI performance at R9 390 prices were wrong?
>>53675282
no shit
>HAHA JUST WAIT FOR PASCAL/POLARIS GUYS XD
so glad I bought a 390 3 months ago.
>>53675304
Why? these comes with less power draw and better support for DX12
>>53675310
There is always something around the corner that will offer a small performance boost. Polaris/Pascal won't be the second coming of jesus like people made it out to be. Im just glad i can game comfortably on my 390 instead of waiting a year for the new arch and being disappointed
I'm still going to wait for Polaris 10 to be released and the first benchmarks to pop up before I decide whether to upgrade or not.
Can't believe any of these rumor mongers.
pRetty sure AMD GPU has the first support for 10bit 4:4:4 color bandiwth that's pretty 'huge' if you are gaymen with high tier monitor panel
Polaris is 2.5x perf/watt, that means Hawaii performance at 90W
>>53673068
Man it feels like just yesterday all I saw were these speculation threads about the Fury ect. How long ago was that? 6 months?
>>53675430
Why are you using Hawaii is a base instead of Fiji? Fiji is already double the perf/watt of Hawaii.
![55a[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DxGEKRN.png "55a[1].png")
>>53675310
>Why? these comes with less power draw and better support for DX12
You know they said the same for the r9 300 series. So I don't know why you would even say the same for this batch of AMD cards.
>>53676572
I meant the support for Direct X 12. I know the new one will have lower tdp.
>>53675090
>390 shits all over the 970 in 1440p performance
390 shits itself above 1080p, get memed
>>53675053
>Bilder
Pictures per second?
you learn something new every day
The presentation actually showed it very clearly, that the biggest jump is gonna be Vegas.
Polaris is another shitty sidestep.
They won't kill their Fijis, so don't expect to see any card with performance above 390.
On the other hand Nvidia can replace every card except for the GTX980Ti.
I'm such a dumbass on this stuff that I can't tell if this thread is calling this an overall good thing or an overall bad thing...
Help? Good or bad fallowed by "fuck off" will be sufficient. S-sorry
>>53677093
No decent card in 2016, that is the bottom line.
>>53673068
>8GB
Actually no, not finished.
www.bitsandchips.it/52-english-news/6785-rumor-pascal-in-trouble-with-asyncronous-compute-code
If it were 4GB then yes, it would be finished.
>>53677108
Thanks anon.
I've got a 4gb AMD ATI 7750HD, seems to me if I do upgrade everyone is saying the 390x or 760.
>>53673068
AMD ESTA ACABADO Y EN BANCARROTA!!!
>>53675354
You're right that you'd lose very little in going for a 390x instead of waiting for polaris now, but when polaris lands, the 390x will be cheaper anyway. The only thing you miss out on by waiting is potential deals like the $220 390x, but deals come around all the time anyway The only reason why it was OK to take that specific deal this time is BECAUSE polaris/pascal are going to be shit, i.e. hindsight is 20/20 but there was no rational reason for this choice.
AHAHAHAHA
AMD FAGS MEMED AGAIN
Lets look at AMD's current desktop lineup:
R5 230 = Caicos = 2011
R7 240 = Oland = 2013
R7 250 = Oland = 2013
R7 360 = Bonaire = 2013
R7 370 = Pitcairn = 2012
R9 380 = Tonga = 2014
R9 380X = Tonga = 2014
R9 390 = Hawaii = 2013
R9 390X = Hawaii = 2013
R9 NANO = Fiji = 2015
R9 FURY = Fiji = 2015
R9 FURYX = Fiji = 2015
Radeon Pro Duo = Fiji = 2015
AMD needs to replace their outdated low end cards much more than the high end ones.
>>53677045
Meanwhile in real life, AMD cards are the only ones which are viable over 1080p.
>>53677140
>760
Please tell me you're just trolling and not actually clinically retarded.
>>53677255
980ti at 1440p here
>>53677423
>need a $1k GPU to equal the performance of AMD's $200 cards over 1080p
Nvidiots everyone!
>>53674511
They were pitting a Polaris against a GTX 950 for the demo, quite obvious that was Polaris 11 so 370 replacement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ZIcztgcNY
>>53677515
The 370 is already faster than the GTX 950 so are there really no performance increases?
>>53677240
Good point. Having cheaper but more powerful low and midrange cards is pretty much how Nvidia crushed AMD in market share. They were more attractive to OEMs. Just look at any brick and mortar store lineup and their "gaming" desktops are loaded with stuff like 750ti's and 960s.
AYYYMD POORFAGS ON
S U I C I D E W A T C H
>>53673068
AMDPOORFAGS LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>53677240
I just want 470 with the power of 390 for the price of 370 :(
I even sold my 270 in preparation.
