Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
>Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:
rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
First for correct thread.
>>53525229
>linux
>post 2007
What's the best image viewer around? I see many people using feh, but is there something better but also lightweight? What is /flt/ using?
>>53525229
I have an old late 2009 Macbook Pro that I installed Linux Mint on. Another anon recommended FreeBSD. I just want a lightweight OS to use for browsing the internet, watching movies/listening to music, and supports steam for light gaming. A little torrenting, maybe.
Specs:
Core 2 Duo 2.26 GHz
4 GB 1066 RAM
1TB HDD
Any recommendations?
>>53525551
Get Nomacs and help us make it even better. It's the IrfanView of free software. It might do more than you want though.
>>53525499
>linux
>any year
Earlier when I turned my laptop on i got a warning saying that my CMOS checksum was bad.
Does this mean my battery has been replaced by the NSA?
>>53525695
also the botnet wants to go bowling with you. He's bringing pizza.
just a dead battery, anon. replace it
My linux experience
> Have to set up server with auto updating on OpenVZ
> 0 experience with linux
> spend over 2 days trying to install the server and launching it, switching between debian, centos and then sticking with ubuntu
> everything crashes, cant launch this, cant install that
> google usage at 100%
> After 20 tries I get it up. Hooray.
> Start to get a hang of thigs
> Spend next 24 hours trying to write auto update script.
> ./itworks.sh
> Now I miss using terminal on my windows machine but cant switch cuz muh gaymes
>>53525662
>>53525499
>>53525662
>Anything but Linux
>Current year
>>53525662
>memes
>>53525551
I use viewnior but feh is alrigght too, some people use mpv with a neat hack in their configs.
>>53525583
Debian GNU/Linux with LXDE or XFCE seem to be good choices.
>>53525763
It only takes like 3 options to make it not shit, here's my very short config.URxvt.background: Black
URxvt.foreground: White
URxvt.scrollBar: false
URxvt.scrollBar_right: true
URxvt.perl-ext-common: default,matcher,selection-to-clipboard
URxvt.url-launcher: /usr/bin/palemoon
URxvt.matcher.pattern.1: \\bhttps?:\/\/(www.youtube.com|youtube.com|youtu.be)/\\S*
URxvt.matcher.launcher.1: /usr/bin/mpv
URxvt.matcher.button: 1
URxvt.urgentOnBell: true
URxvt.font: xft:Source Code Pro Medium:pixelsize=20:antialias=true:hinting=true,xft:Everson Mono:pixelsize=20:antialias=true:hinting=true
And over half those lines aren't for making it pretty.
>>53525551
sxiv or just ImagemagicK's display
>>53525819
why not dual-boot?
if you really can't there is GNU on windows in the form of GOW or Cygwin but they are harder to use than GNU/Linux.
if you were able to learn this without experience and had fun you sound like you could have a lot of fun computing in freedom.
>>53525708
but my os is still reporting both batteries with some charge left on both
>>53525899
by clanging your hosts file in /etc/
>>53525960
the CMOS battery, silly, not the main laptop batteries.
Is there daemon that monitors the raw keyboard events, independent of Xorg, and allows you to define shortcuts?
>>53525899
edit /etc/hosts
What distribution will give me JUST the linux kernel + coreutils and a package manager? I do not want any extra packages, nor 300 showing up when showing screenfetch on a fresh install. Just the kernel + coreutils.
>>53526026
I'm not sure if that's possible outside of LFS. don't you at least want a package manager?
I want to install the most lightweight distro for dummies. Aside Lubuntu I found LXLE which looks like same Lubuntu. What's the difference? Would it be better to install Debian with LXDE?
>>53526026
Arch linux.
>>53526058
yes but I simply just want linux kernel + coreutils and a package manager that doesn't rely on heavy crap.
>>53526088
shouldn't any minimal distro be fine then? debian minimal, DSL (not sure if that still exists) and gentoo could be possible options.
>>53526126
nope. just GNU and no extra/very minor bloated tools.
I'll try picking up on LFS and seeing if I can incorporate a package manager.
>>53526160
And you'll end up with the same number of packages. Just because you don't use them directly, doesn't mean that they can be discarded.
>>53526026
debootstraped debian
>>53525323
>>https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
That list is a goldmine.
>>53526240
is there a guide for this anywhere?
>>53526405
in xfce go to your settings and select window manager, then to advanced and then tick hide content of windows when moving or when resizing.
>>53526468
ty men, any idea on cinnamon how that shit works?
>>53526542
sorry, no i abandoned cinnamon right when i abandoned mint. it's just a fork after all.
but you said you had screen tearing issues in an earlier thread, have you tried using compton with a config that fits your hardware?
>>53526580
># prevent init scripts from running during install/update
Something that's not from the 1900s?
What's to correct way to deal with programs I install sudo make install? Where to place the binaries and how can I make the package manager regonize them? I'm confused, pic related.
>>53526660
If you're on debian:sudo make checkinstall
>>53526660
this depends on the distro. for debian you can use https://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall
where the binaries are doesn't really matter, i always just put stuff in /opt
>>53526660
Running make install will place them automatically. You shouldn't really do that since it will be inconvenient to remove them later on (you'll have to manually do it). Try to create packages and use your package manager instead.
>>53526575
yeah i will try compton later, but i know thats requires a couple of tweaks that i not familiar, so will take a time.
in the meantime, wanted to get the most funtional desktop i could whit simple configurations-
thanks
>>53526690
>>53526692
Thanks, I'm on Ubuntu so I guess I'll check out checkinstall.
>>53526696
Speaking of compton. Shit makes my system lag after a while, while doing its effects. Especially if mpv is currently playing something. Had to give it up because it was too annoying. Literally 10x smoother without.
>>53526696
it's not all that hard actually, here's the guide:
https://github.com/chjj/compton/wiki/vsync-guide
i personally usecompton --backend glx --vsync opengl-mswc --paint-on-overlay --glx-no-stencil --glx-no-rebind-pixmap -fbut i think I'm overdoing it.
Hey guys, I'm the guy who was having issues with his Void Linux on a VBox machine. I fixed it all and found was the error was. Tell me if you want to know it (although I don't think that will happen)
>>53526063
no real difference other than default packages. they will run you about the same, performance-wise. LXDE is the lightest proper desktop environment, if you want to get lighter than that you'd have to go without. you can either assemble together the software you want or go with something preconfigured (like whoever picked up crunchbang) but either way you'll be editing text config files and generally wasting your time
>>53526682
>>53526690
holy crap, how did i not know of this before
(not the same guy)
Aside from KDE, what setup is best for running Qt applications? Any DE I should stay clear of or is it just a matter of themes?
>>53526026
pretty sure you need more than that to get to a usable terminal session
my advice would be debian's netboot installer, which is ~25mb and contains just enough to get you to a kernel session. there are other, more minimal linuxes out there (e.g. tiny core) but debian is probably more useful
>>53526850
there's an ongoing project to port LXDE to Qt which you might want to keep an eye on http://lxqt.org/
in general you can install Qt on anything, i've never had problems with it
i also love Qt
Use dwb, the minimalist, graphical web browser written in C.
Features:
vi-like keybindings
easy customizable via a webinterface
bookmarks
tab-completion
cookie- and proxy-support (including a cookie-whitelist)
hintmode
add keywords for searchengines and searchfields
save sessions
tiling layouts
plugin-, script-, and adblocker (including a whitelist for plugins and scripts)
userscripts
Dependencies: only libwebkit and gtk2!
Don't let the trolls convince you is dead, dwb is alive. Useful links: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/dwb
>>53526767
I remember you. Yesterday (?) you posted 2 errors, one was that Virtualbox closed spontaneously, and after you fixed that you had an error at boot. What was wrong?
>>53526930
Fuck off. Take this:
http://surf.suckless.org/
>>53526957
Would use it but is not as good as dwb. Do you even multi tab?
>>53526906
So hyped for Unity 8. Qt will be more mainstream and important programs such as Firefox will switch and file picker meme will finally die.
>>53526931
Yeah, was yesterday anon. Today I made another post but. . .You know.
The 1st issue was that the distro is not compatible at all with VBox, so when I tried the EFI way didn't work because of the same.
Then I went Hyper-V. Tried 1st generation. then I tried BIOS but somehow it kept fucking up itself, then I tried EFI way and deactivating "safe boot" and went smooth as damn.
Everything started because VBox is shit in W10.
>>53526930
I can't check right now, when was the last update? I would love to se an actually new browser instead of basically 2 browsers and hundreds of forks.
>>53526985
The Qt file picker is even worse than GTK's. The "good" file picker is a KDE thing.
>>53526985
>Firefox will switch [to Qt]
I guess you can dream.
>>53525708
>tfw botnet has pizza because botnet will use non-free javascript to order pizza
>>53526999
ah, yes, well that's an obvious problem then. As far as I can tell Virtualbox is shit on Linux as well, at least I've been avoiding it since Oracle bought Sun in 2010.
>>53527054
>not using a fucking phone
>>53526002
what happens if i dont replace them?
will my laptop stop working?
>>53527076
>>53526930
webkit in a box
INSTALL ARCH YOU DUMB FUCKS
best wm for MATE?
In gentoo I added some new stuff to my kernel by running # make menuconfig, then i saved the changes. What do i have to do to make these changes take effect? Just # make ? Or # make && make modules_install ? Is there more to it than that?
I'm trying to add kvm stuff but I don't see any kvm stuff listed or any changes when I run # lsmod , and there is no /dev/kvm device listed on my machine even after doing a reboot
How do I build a 100% free as in no binary blobs desktop computer?
I would prefer to have a discrete gpu and sound card but it's not required
>>53527005
A couple months (november). But I check and it works nice.
Also found this https://github.com/Sean-Der/Firefox2dwb
I know what you mean with the gazillion forks, all that bloat makes me want one simple browser and this one has userscripts and adblocking integrated.
>>53527397
>>53527250
Daily reminder that every "hot" chick with any linux-related tatto or clothes/accesories
is just a shitty shoop done by a lonely neckbeard.
>>53527447
>citation needed
This woman is obv a brilliant womyn coder who don't need no man. #thisIsWhatAnEngineerLooksLike
>>53527447
>>53526906
It looks like it is far away from being stable and I have to use an old Ubuntu for work...
I'll try mate and xfce and see how well that works.
Probably gonna pull all of KDE anyway except the desktop.
>>53527501
>That Kid
>Hot
Ayy lmao
>>53527526
Microdick.
>>53527447
>that second one
>hot
>>53527572
>Another kid without showing body
>Probably fat because of that angle
>With a penguin not even related to linux
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH, keep trying lonely neckbeard
>/g/ talking about women
Yep, good time to close the damn thread and go to bed.
Rutkowska best waifu <3
>>53527501
>Linux
>Largest project
>>53527501
just some corner girl paid a few shekels to model
>>53527045
GTK2 --> GTK3 took quite a while so I have hope
Remember:
Ignore Microsoft/anti-Linux trolls.
Ignore BSD/anti-GNU trolls.
Ignore anti-Upstart/anti-Mir trolls.
Mark them as bait.
You are invited to share/create copypasta to prevent doubts they create.
>>53527682
Like clockwork >>53527447
>>53527501
Who is this gnu shrew? I want to grep her vagina
>>53527621
>>53527305
http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw
Is there a way to make chrome play better with window decorators?
>My Boobs Don't Matter
>I came to the Open Source world because I liked being part of a community where my ideas, my skills and my experience mattered, not my boobs. That's changed, and it's changed at the hands of the people who say they want a community where ideas, skills and experience matter more than boobs.
>>53527870
When will I know when I am capable of handling Arch?
>>53527898
>>53527923
when you learn to read
>>53527898
k.
If you don't know, there's no need to belittle me for making an informed choice. Just go about your business as if I did not ask.
>>53527924
Now do one for Pale Meme.
>>53528174
legit tattoo is legit
http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/2010/06/sexy-fedora-no-shirt.html (NSFW)
>>53527880
Go make me a sandwich bitch. Women are sex objects. Their job is to look pretty, make and raise babies, cook and clean. They should not be in the work force. They should not be even thinking about computers.
>>53528174
>2016
>dating a woman who doesn't have a linux face tattoo
>>53528313
>$currentyear
>dating a woman who likes buntu
>>53528313
this
>>53527250make && make modules_install
If they're built into the kernel rather than modules you also have to update the kernel image in /boot.
Can some explain to me what I'm actually doing? I'm installing Arch once again but I have no deeper understanding of what is happening when I enter commands.
For examplemkinitcpio -p linux. What does the -p mean? Is it abbreviation, and if yes, what for?
Also I added a user to my system, with the following command:useradd -m -g users -G wheel -s /bin/bash name
Useradd I get, but what about:
>-m
>-g
>-G
Or if someone could explain what exactly happens and why when I enter that line in the console?
>>53528405
fail
Do the stallgod knows about /g/?
>>53528425
Did you try 'man mkinitcpio'? How about 'man useradd'?
>>53528325
Ubuntu is literally made for women. My girlfriend who cannot into computers at all can use it.
Weird question and I don't know if this is the correct place to do it.
I want to develop an application thing, which involves installing dependencies and libraries, configuring the dev & release config, and be able to transfer from my dev machine to my server seamlessly. My dev machine is Windows, but my servers are Linux.
At my work, we're able to do this in our .NET application, going from a dev Windows machine to the prod server without issue... but I'd like to do it to Linux.
Is there any free software I can use to do this?
>>53528447
I'd like to clear up some erroneous information about where I stand that is circulating on 4chan and perhaps elsewhere.
I have a low opinion of Gentoo GNU/Linux.
Gentoo is a GNU/Linux distribution, but its developers don't recognize this; they call it "Gentoo Linux". That means they are treating me and the GNU Project disresepectfully.
More importantly, Gentoo steers the user towards nonfree programs, which is why it is not one of our recognized free distros.
See the GNU distros list for the distros that I do recommend.
[...] more:
<https://stallman.org/to-4chan.html>
>>53528425
"The -p switch specifies a preset to utilize; most kernel packages provide a related mkinitcpio preset file, found in /etc/mkinitcpio.d (e.g. /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset for linux). A preset is a predefined definition of how to create an initramfs image instead of specifying the configuration file and output file every time."
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mkinitcpio#Image_creation_and_activation
For Useradd, -m creates the user's home.
-g = The group name or ID for a new user's initial group (when the -N/--no-user-group is used or when the USERGROUPS_ENAB variable is set to no in /etc/login.defs. The named group must exist, and a numerical group ID must have an existing entry.
-G: -G, --groups GROUP1[,GROUP2,...[,GROUPN]]]
A list of supplementary groups which the user is also a member of. Each group is separated from the next by a comma, with no intervening whitespace. The groups are subject to the same restrictions as the group given with the -g option. The default is for the user to belong only to the initial group.
>>53528479
Use one of the 6 million different build systems, the most common ones being GNU autotools and cmake.
>>53528412
Cool thx. So yeah i ran make && modules_install, just needed to do that last make install to copy the kernel image, system.map and kernel config to /boot
Last one.
>>53528425
-m, --create-home
Create the user's home directory if it does not exist. The
files and directories contained in the skeleton directory
(which can be defined with the -k option) will be copied to
the home directory.
By default, if this option is not specified and CREATE_HOME
is not enabled, no home directories are created.
-g, --gid GROUP
The group name or number of the user's initial login group.
The group name must exist. A group number must refer to an
already existing group.
If not specified, the behavior of useradd will depend on the
USERGROUPS_ENAB variable in /etc/login.defs. If this
variable is set to yes (or -U/--user-group is specified on
the command line), a group will be created for the user,
with the same name as her loginname. If the variable is set
to no (or -N/--no-user-group is specified on the command
line), useradd will set the primary group of the new user to
the value specified by the GROUP variable in
/etc/default/useradd, or 100 by default.
-G, --groups GROUP1[,GROUP2,...[,GROUPN]]]
A list of supplementary groups which the user is also a
member of. Each group is separated from the next by a comma,
with no intervening whitespace. The groups are subject to
the same restrictions as the group given with the -g option.
The default is for the user to belong only to the initial
group.
Nigga learn to use man asap.
>>53528271
OMFG!
How difficult would it be to switch with my Arch Linux machine to Linux-libre?
>>53528271
fake
>>53528647
Do you have any hardware that requires proprietary firmware?
>>53528642
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fedora-no-shirt-sexy/img_4352.jpg
Is there any way to turn git or preferably mercurial into a distributed and encrypted storage? GPG + hooks? There must be ready solutions for that or articles about that kind of thing
>>53528606
All pics saved, thanks anon.
>>53528647
Run Parabola from USB-Stick first, to see if everything works. It's basically Arch with Linux-libre.
>>53528713
kek
>Want to download Antergos to prepare me to install Arch
>can't even download .iso since download page has broken tabs
Way to go, Jesus Christ. What's the point of a flashy, modern-looking website if it doesn't even work?
>>53528701
>encrypted storage
What do you mean by that?
git usually uses an encrypted channel(SSH or HTTPS) and you can authenticate with GPG.
What would be the point in storing it encrypted? If you want to do that then just encrypt it on your local HDD.
>>53528699
I wonder how the photo session went. Also warning, NSFW anons.
>>53528757
Just install Arch normally.
>>53528765
To store a backup on a server on the internet. It's not public, but just to be safer. Then again, I guess I could just encrypt only the specific files I'm worried about and put encrypted versions in the storage.
>>53528819
You could just tarball the entire directory, encrypt and upload that.
Any Cinnamon users on arch? Has it improved? good for 2016?
>>53528767
I just curl'd the range [400-500], this seams to be the set:
img_4300.jpg img_4318.jpg img_4351.jpg img_4384.jpg img_4426.jpg img_4454.jpg
img_4311.jpg img_4325.jpg img_4352.jpg img_4388.jpg img_4439.jpg img_4465.jpg
img_4317.jpg img_4333.jpg img_4363.jpg img_4391.jpg img_4444.jpg img_4469.jpg
>>53528701
I've looked into this before with git. git doesn't really play nice when every file is encrypted. One of the issues I've come across is that let's say you have a bunch of files and you decrypt them all to work on them but you only change 1 of them, the act of re-encrypting all of them makes git treat them all like completely new files even though only one of the files actually changed. I think it's possible but in a situation like i'm talking about you will need to build in a way to keep a copy of each of the original encrypted files, then decrypt the copies to work on and then before encrypting before you do your commit, run some kind of script that will make a decrypted copy of the original encrypted file, check your decrypted files for changes and then only re-encrypt and replace files you actually changed. Their might be better ways to do it but this is the way I came up with when I was working on creating a remote repo where all the files were completely encrypted. I had to write a shell script to make copies of the originals, decrypt with gpg, then later do the comparison with cmp to check for changes, then use mv and rm to replace files that had actually changed, rm files that hadn't and then use gpg to encrypt the changed versions of the files.
>>53528843
That kind of nullifies all benefits from using git/mercurial except for history
>>53528895
And your git repo is working on binary encrypted data? Or the original files?
If the former, it's a waste of git. The latter and your encryption is worthless unless .git encrypted too. In which case, it's not any different from an encrypted tarball.
Your repo shouldn't consist of encrypted files, that goes a layer above it.
>>53529006
First off i'm not saying i'm using git properly in this situation. I was just playing around with it.
The full way it worked in my setup is that you had a local dir with .git in it. Then inside that dir was another dir with the actual files. All of the files in that sub dir are all encrypted. So at this point git has not touched any unencrypted files. Then to actually work on the files my shell script copied the sub dir with the encrypted files into a new working dir with no git involved. It then decrypted all the files with gpg. So when working on the actual files no git is involved. Then when you are done working on the files you run my script with a different command and it copies and decrypts all the original files again into a temp dir outside of the .git dir. it then checks to see which files have changed using cmp, then it deletes the files that haven't been changed, encrypts the files that have been changed and then replaces the originals with the updated encrypted files in the .git sub dir. So as far as I can tell there should be no leakage in the actual .git repo because it only interacts with encrypted versions of the files. Then you can clone and do whatever with this repo of encrypted files.
It's probably a waste of git but the benefits would the ability to log changes and check out older versions of the encrypted files based on the git log so you would still have some history and version control.
Also depending on the size of the repo you could probably hook it up so that the decrypted work dir and the decrypted check for changes temp dir are both created and ran out of tmpfs and then you could add the extra layer or never actually writing anything to the local disk when working on the files.
But yeah i agree it's probably not the best way to go about it.
>>53528814
Should I use Architect or just do it raw with CLI?
>>53529559
Ph and the other benefit would be only pushing the updated/changed encrypted files to a remote repo instead of pushing a whole tarball of all of the files to the remote location each time. So potentially save on bandwidth and time spent backing up etc.
>>53529614
Man the fuck up and Install gentoo faggot
>>53529614
CLI, it's not like it's hard. The wiki tells you what to type step by step, the only part that is even slightly hard is partitioning and you can take 5 minutes to understand it.
>>53529646
Gentoo is literally a meme distro, not even memeing. There's not point in compiling 12 hours for a browser update.
>>53529615
You could do it on the file level, but it's still not very efficient. git is meant to work with lines.
If you were using something stupid like EBC mode, you could do it on the block level with a binary diff tool but EBC is just shit.
The system you want doesn't exist(efficiently) yet, just need to perfect searchable symmetric encryption.
>>53529684
>What is distcc
also how can you not enjoy the relaxing vibe of watching your programs compile from source. It's pretty comfy t b h family member
>>53529728
Not with a single core.
>>53529684
Gentoo has binary packages for heavyweight software (libreoffice, firefox, etc.)
Fresh rms memes: >>53512674
>>53529773
>single core
Have you considered running gentoo with a processor made in the last decade?
I was playing with ImageMagick and converted that pdf to png, so why not posting it.
>>53530187
That's spooky as fuck, I was just reading that.
>>53530231
>not selling your soul to Free Software
>>53530231
We're all connected, buddy.
How do I get passed this?
>ls /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
It says directory not found or something along those lines. Is there something in BIOS I change ? Tried changing it but I couldn't boot into my USB afterwards so I had to reset all Bios settings
>>53530369
efivars are only accessible when you're booting in EFI mode
>>53530187
Can I get that magnificent font? I need a good font for my assignment tomorrow
sorry for the silly question but how do you view your near wireless connections in i3?
i usually just log in xfce and then go back to i3, but its getting tedious
Guys, guys, a good thread on - you wount believe me - /g/: >>53530357
>>53530594iwlist <interface> scanning
Hello friendly Linuxfags, lifelong Windowsfag here so I'm pretty ignorant.
Is there a guide or something to explain the "use case" differences between distros? Some light reading tells me that linux is so customizable that whatever distro you initially install you can basically modify it to however you like afterwards. What are the practical reasons to install one over the other then?
I am mostly interested in hard differences between different kinds of users, like are there different distros suited for programmers, server admins, media creators, web hosts, people who need live support, that kind of thing. I'm less interested in philosophies (only free software all the time) or hardware requirements (lightweight to run on a Pentium II, just assume I have a modern system).
I see lots of infighting on /g/ saying Arch sucks, Mint is for noobs, Red Hat is evil, stay away from systemd, and I don't know what any of that means so I don't know if those arguments are reasonable or just /g/ being /g/. Thanks for the help.
>>53530594
Depends what you're using, are you using NetworkManager? Just install nm-applet and make sure it's set to start up in your config.
>>53530720
The main differences between distros are the color scheme and the desktop background.
>>53530720
Your average distro only differs in the package manager(the core of the distro) and preinstalled software.
So things that are meant for new users/desktops(ubuntu, fedora, mint) usually have an easy to use desktop environment and lots of preinstalled software for everyday use.
Things for servers might have service daemons(http, dns, whatever) preinstalled and their software might be older(stable).
Most have variations, like ubuntu has server distributions and shit. Some distributors might be quicker with security patches and all that.
Just ignore the autists and pick what you want.
>>53530793
>distros are a DE
Out. Fucking out.
>>53530720
>I see lots of infighting on /g/ saying Arch sucks, Mint is for noobs, Red Hat is evil, stay away from systemd
Arch doesn't suck, but people that use it sometimes really do. It's a lightweight distro that gives you nothing really usable from scratch, you have to actually install everything you want to use. Some think this is good, some don't. Mint is for noobs pretty much yeah, it's babby's first linux for Windows transitioning if you're not too savvy. Red Hat is 'evil' because it's as far from freedum as you can get. Systemd is fine.
>>53530611
>iwlist <interface> scanning
>interface doesn't support scanning
there must be an easier way, this is giving me a headache
>>53530931ip link set <interface> up
>>53530931
yeah there is an easier way.
get a de if you can't into wm scrub
I made a typo in the terminal and now I'm stuck at a prompt, is there any way to escape and get back to the command line?
>>53530955
doesnt work..
>>53530720
>like are there different distros suited for programmers, server admins, media creators, web hosts, people who need live support, that kind of thing
There are general purpose distributions, you're looking for those most likely (Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, etc.). Main difference is software that is in repositories, but it usually boils down to who has older/newer version or if some obscure piece of software is present. If you're getting a general purpose distro, choose one that you can get help with from friends/buddies/internet. If you have no friends, choose Ubuntu, it's the most popular distro with largest community.
Then there are special purpose distros like Alpine or ChromeOS, don't choose those unless you know that you really need that specific distro for that specific purpose. These usually bundle some obscure hardware-related packages or have unusual default configuration.
Then there are distos like RHEL and SLED/SLES that have enterprise support, but this stuff is for corporations
>Arch sucks
In general people shit on arch because of the archfags. It has it's own issues but they come from it's "minimalist bleeding edge" philosophy/policies, so they're kind of expected/that's what you sign up for.
>Mint is for noobs
Kind of? It's user friendly. Like it's a bad thing.
>Red Hat is evil
RHEL is an enterprise distro, it's built around it's paid support so if you're not using it you're going to get into unneeded trouble (private bugzilla pages, weird backported software, etc.)
>stay away from systemd
Don't worry about that, because systemd is what you get by default in practically every distro except maybe Gentoo and Slackware.
>>53530931
wpa supplicant?
>>53531092
CTRL + c
>>53531110
Thanks!
>>53530931
Just do it the way you always do, that's why people have back up WM/DE.
The advice you're getting is shit anyways, you're better off using google.
Question: I'm given a list of partitions to create on an SD card. The list has the size, type, and mount point of each partition. I know how to create the partition (fdisk) and how to format (mkfs) but what do I do with the information under "mount point"? Right now I have /dev/sbd1 2 and 3
>>53531200
Sry u meant /dev/sdb
>>53531228
I not u
Yes I'm a mongoloid
>>53531106
>Then there are special purpose distros
Just to clarify, special purpose as in "run everything in docker" or "xen dom0", not as in "distro for web developers". There is no division like that.
>>53531200
What's the context? Mount point is the point in your filesystem where the partition is mounted (who knew?!)
>>53530720
Systemd does not suck.
It is not a botnet. those are unix philosophy shills.
do not fall for the openrc meme.
do not fall for the upstart meme.
do not fall for the system v init meme.
>>53531326
Found the 16GB RAM meme guy.
Sorry for posting such a dumb question but I'm doing a minimal debian install to make my netbook even faster and I'm trying to install the awesome wm. I'm, following a guide that's telling me to go into the zsh config file and make awesome the default wm. Problem is that I'm not opening up a config file of any kind it's just a blank txt. Anyone know what step I missed?
>>53531349
No that's not me lol.
I'm surprised that guy is still able to post if it's one person. IP Range ban when?
>>53531326
what about runit
Can someone explain to me the differences between aptitude and apt-get? Which one should I use? Does it matter?
>>53531371
You missed the part where you install and configure the ZSH shell.
>>53531383
also a meme :^)
>>53531391
What? I did the apt-get, was there more?
Holy shit please tell me it's just that easy.
>>53531417
LOL
ZSH replaces bash. So yeah you need to manually configure everything.
Find another tutorial.
>>53525299
I'd love to know how to use these.
>>53531270
Yeah but which file system? The card is being prepared for a rpi2. How do I tell the card to use the mount point of /boot for /dev/sdb1 when it's in the rpi? Right now the card is in my laptop
Windowsfag from before here, thanks for the help. I guess I'll just grab Kubuntu and wing it.
>>53531477
Oh my fucking lord I've been sitting here for like an hour trying to get out of this command line and go to bed. I think I'll just use bash or something instead, I wasn't finding much luck just using "how to configure zsh".
Thanks man.
this thread is full of shit advice
>>53531535
Have fun, we have the grills with loonix tats.
>>53531609
give better advice
>>53531326
systemd is the only init system that properly tracks the lifetime of services, compartmentalizes them, handles dependencies between them.
sysvinit is just a pile of hacks on hacks on hacks that happened to work ok enough up until now.
Long live systemd.
>>53531536
>configure zsh
Nigga you literally just enable it over bash as your user's shell and you're done. Sure you can customise it further with zshrc etc but to make it just werk that's it. Check grml-zsh-config btw, very good.
I can't seem to log in to root for some reason. It'll go through and belt out the usual no warranty stuff but then immediately go back to the log in screen. It just keeps looping like that and I have no idea how to fix it.
I recently installed mumble and it all works fine except messages show up as unformatted html in my notifications widget in cinnamon
>>53531326
It would not be wise to ignore the wisdom of unix young shitposter
>>53527924
Not even original. Now do it for icecat
Quick question, is there an option somewhere in the configs for openbox to have a dock on the bottom or left side of the screen? This is the first time I've installed just a window manager so this is kinda disorienting.
>>53532345
>the wisdom of 60-ies
>2016
Get with the times grandpa
>>53533031
>wisdom of 60s
>it's not wise to ignore wisdom
Say I'm sshed into a system, and have a file X I want to download.
Is there a way to download that file without leaving that ssh session?
Something like download-file-to-client X
I know how to scp, but it's sorta a pain to have to switch like that, and not have tab completion.
I could also use sftp, but still not as nice as if I could just browse normally through terminal, and grab files to host as needed.
>>53533231
No, ssh doesn't do that. Yes, it sucks.
>>53533241
I wonder if you could perhaps cat the data straight to stdout, and then somehow let the ssh client/terminal know that this data to pipe to a file.
This is getting out of my knowledge level of ssh/terminal workings.
>>53533258
It's not part of the openssh client. You could copy something with your terminal or tmux, it's easy if the file is short. If it's binary or 100,000 lines it doesn't work very well though.
>>53533231
While in SSH, aside from SCP and the like? Not that I know of. But I really recommend SSHFS is you're just planning on rummaging around that system for files, copying from local to remote.
>>53533300
Sorry, I butchered that sentence.
What I meant to say was "Copying them from local to remote, and remote to local and the like."
who else is using based monob terminals ?
>>53533278
Mainly pdf files, typically small.
My main use case is to ssh into the university computer lab, to get around paywalls for documents. (As the university pays to have them all accessible if you are on their network.)
So I ssh in with X forwarding, launch firefox, download the file, then quit firefox, copy the path to the download, end the ssh session, scp.
It'd be a lot nicer to just be able to quit firefox, copy2host ~/Downloads/file, done.
>>53533300
SSHFS is great, I use it for my nas because I'm too lazy to set up a better network attached storage system, but it wouldn't fit my use for this case.
I mostly just want to get in, download a file, grab the file, get out.
I guess I could just make firefox use a socks ssh proxy, but again, that seems overkill, and I don't want to risk having a porn tab of some kind open and load over a uni connection.....
>>53533231
sftp
>>53533334
Use 1 terminal dedicated to firefox, and 1 dedicated to scp. Maybe use 1 additional terminal with ssh dedicated to rename files.
>>53533390
I mentioned that, but again, by the time I do that, I might as well just scp the single file.
>>53533395
I guess, I could even make a script to make those tmux windows so it's all just one command to get going, but it just seems strange that this isn't included in some way.
>>53533413
>>53533395
Actually, that wouldn't really make things faster, the main nuisance is just having to copy and paste that path for scp, rather than just having the command inline with my workflow.
Now, if there was some way to make it that when I ran a command in the ssh session, it took the path given to that command, and ran scp with that host + path, that'd be cool.
>>53527923
This >>53527935 and when you know the names of the stuff you want to install.
>>53533426
if my system intercepted that command, and ran scp I mean.
>>53533413
When you consider that the ssh client works as a terminal and not a higher level application(like a shell), it's not that strange
It's not the responsibility of a terminal to do anything but emulate a vt100 or whatever.
The solution is scp and stuff, you login another computer with ssh. It makes sense.
You make scp work as "transfer file" utility if you do key-only(no password) authentication between the systems.
>>53533426
You download shit with firefox, do you put those downloads in random directories?
It should be the same path for all files, just stupid filenames could be annoying (which is why there is an additional rename terminal)
>>53533442
Even with no password, it still lacks auto complete and requires a bit of a work flow break.
Also, I don't think my university offers passwordless auth, sadly.
>>53533457
Ah, I see what you mean, yeah, that'd be a work around.
>>53525443
The FSF always has nice posters but the websites and operating systems look like shit.
>>53533476
>Also, I don't think my university offers passwordless auth, sadly.
>not offering key authentication
>>53533501
I know, the computer science department is horribly under funded.
The chairs in the computer lab are falling apart even, most of them have the backs loose, and sliding around, with noticeable tears in them.
They're these
<<
Meanwhile, the student union gets a bunch of 1000 dollar chairs.
>>53533491
>websites
I find gnu.org is pretty good design. Every page is simply, take any tool:
>https://www.gnu.org/software/make/
>what it does, mailing lists, source code & mirrors, repository and most importantly the docs:
>https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/index.html
I think gnu.org is well done.
>>53533549
Literally all you have to do is enable pubkey and rsakey authentication in the config though. Which by the way is the default. Then it's up to the user to add the keys to their .ssh/authorized_keys folder.
I don't see how you could fuck that up.
>>53533327
What is this?
>>53533334
Can't you just use your ssh session as socks proxy and run firefox on your main computer?
>>53533658
I fail to see how a socks proxy is more overkill than running x forwarded firefox and then grabbing stuff.
As for leaking traffic, use a dedicated browser(profile)
Or something like foxyproxy where you can limit the proxy connection to certain IPs/URLs...
>>53533721
I'll look into that stuff, thanks.
>>53533574
Alright, you were right.
I made a false assumption, I got ssh-key gen working.
For some reason it autobans if I try to use ssh-copy-id, but the ban only lasts a few minutes.
>>53533762
Got ssh key login*
http://www.gnu.org/help/
>>53526930
Being a noob to pretty much everything that is discussed here on /g/, I feel like I'm getting way in over my head by trying to use this... but god damn it appeals to me and I'm gonna try.
>>53534211
Every fucking time.
>>53534211
>>53534279
Actual music:
cat /dev/urandom | hexdump -v -e '/1 "%u\n"' | awk '{ split("0,2,4,5,7,9,11,12",a,","); for (i = 0; i < 1; i+= 0.0001) printf("%08X\n", 100*sin(1382*exp((a[$1 % 8]/12)*log(2))*i)) }' | xxd -r -p | aplay -c 2 -f S32_LE -r 16000
>>53534291
Nope.
>>53534296
Yes, grab your balls.
:(){ :|: & };:
I know it's a fork bomb, but what does it mean?
>>53534313
It spawns itself twice in a loop eternally. No damage, but you'll probably need to hard reboot.
>>53534313
Think of ":" as a function name.
faggot(){ faggot|faggot & };faggot
or:faggot()
{
faggot | faggot &
}
faggot
The fist faggot defines the function. The second faggot calls itself, piped to a third faggot, "&" forks it into the background.
The last faggot runs the function.
You now have a function called faggot, which creates endless other functions called faggot forking themselfes, running around everywhere, just like here.
>>53534339
>You now have a function called faggot, which creates endless other functions called faggot forking themselfes, running around everywhere, just like here.
Holy fuck, it was worth waking up today.
>>53534339
Oh, and all these faggots want your system ressources, so they eat it, until nothing is left. You prevent this using ulimit -u <max processes>.
>>53534357
What's a fair limit.
Need some quick advice.
So my mom has an old Dell netbook with really low end hardware. All she does it pretty much browse the web and check her emails.
What distro should I throw on this thing? Lubuntu?
>>53534362
Depends pretty much on your system setup. I'd say ~600 leaves enough air to kill a running bomb for a usual system, but I don't promise anything. When you want to start a process/program and it doesn't start, ulimit is too low.
>>53534391
I assume you could set it to like 10,000 and still be unaffected by this particular faggot bomb. Fatter faggots might not be so easy though.
