Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU + Linux, you can:
1) Install a GNU + Linux on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU + Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot GNU + Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU + Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU + Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU + Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
hey how I install thumbnails for my file picker?
>>53479913
>Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
>>53479913
Install tumbler
>>53479958
thanks it worked now I can see thumbnails in ranger
>>53479911
Thanks, this was actually super informative and gave me some tips on [, [[, and test, as well as explaining the why of their style guidelines and also gave me some expansion tips.
>Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:
rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
How do I upgrade mpv to a recent non-deprecated version escaping the dependency hell of building myself, considering that the .deb packages linked on mpv.io fail spectacularly and compailing fails even more (something about a .waf file missing)
Debian 8.3 by the way.
>>53480473
I don't know what version you're after, but the debian-multimedia repo has a package:
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/mpv
The "Debian way" around this is to just use the testing/unstable packages, because Debian is a joke.
I expect Ubuntu would have a recent version either in repos or a PPA.
>>53480795
Stopstarting distro wars. Also ppa can be used on debian, it's just bad practice.
>>53480473
What errors do you get?
How do I trace what exactly is happening when I press a keyboard key? I haven't mapped those extra keyboard keys to anything, yet they can change my screen brightness, turn off my WLAN device or suspend my computer.
Openbox is my window manager and it handles some of the global keyboard shortcuts. None of those keys are assigned in its config file.
How can I improve the font rendering as seen here? Text I write in entry spaces in Firefox or otherwise looks really nice; just not the text on websites. In case it's not clear from the picture, the text spacing seems to be too little
>>53480820
Trying the testing package suggested in /sqt/ i get this.
And trying to install manually the missing packages, either they aren't in debian repositories or get again a list of mpv unmet dependencies.
Also I uninstalled the old version of mpv before, I don't know if it was the right course of actions.
>>53481015
I increased the general font size from 9 to 10 and it's quite better. I'm using Droid Sans btw (is that alright?)
>>53481008
Run xev in a terminal
It'll bring up a window, move your mouse into that window
Now press a key, you'll see the key up and key down event and keycode in the terminal
>>53481037
You need to add the entire repo, you can't just download and install one package from it.
>>53481066
I think he means he wants to check which commands they're executing, as opposed to which keys are being pressed.
>>53481066
>move your mouse into that window
Silly Anon, it'll be automatically focused. Silly, silly.
Does someone have the alias that was floating around for making xev output not a pain in the ass when you're only interested in what keys are being hit and don't care about release events and so on?
>>53481101
You could probably just egrep -i "key(code|sym)"
>>53481108
A little bit more to it, but yeah, I'm just being lazy here.
>>53481101
I usually just use
xev | grep keysym
And it works like a charm.
>>53481077
by add the repo you mean something along the lines of adding
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stretch main
to
/etc/apt/sources.list
and then running apt-get update, right?
Or am I doing this wrong?
>>53479892
Anyone else cringe when they see every other sentence containing "GNU + Linux"?
>>53481171
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Advice_For_New_Users_On_Not_Breaking_Their_Debian_System
don't do this kind of stuff without knowing what you are doing.
if stability is not an issue, upgrade to stretch and enable multimedia.
>>53481096
well then, thank you
>>53481199
>https://encrypted.google.com/#safe=off&q=gnu+linux
google does it, must be correct
>>53481215
You speak for everyone on this planet earth aspie?
>>53481233
>>53481215
I am sorry I mean GNU + aspie
>>53481066
I was thinking about this >>53481081. According to the Arch Wiki, udev is partially responsible for that and has preset mappings. But I can't find anything on the internet about those defaults.
>>53481233
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Aspie, is in fact, GNU/Aspie, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Aspie. Aspie is not an disorder unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU disease made useful by the GNU ragelibs, shellfish utilities and vital triggering components comprising a full mental disease as defined by DSM.
Many users suffer from a modified version of the GNU diseas every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Aspie, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU disease, designed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Aspie, and these people are getting it, but it is just a part of the illness they use. Aspie is the essence: the thing in the disease that allocates the people's common sense to the other senses that you need. The essence is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete disease. Aspie is normally used in combination with the GNU illness: the whole illness is basically GNU with Aspie added, or GNU/Aspie. All the so-called Aspie disorders are really distributions of GNU/Aspie!
Why can't I write to my
>/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/...
files with sudo, but only from an actual root account login? This seems really peculiar.
>>53481206
I've come to the conclusion that I've already wasted too much time trying to listen to my youtube playlist through terminal by trying to get a newer version of mpv, and it's not worth it to risk breaking my system by blindly doing stuff.
Feels bad, I want the 9 hours I wasted this way back.
>>53481363
I didn't read the whole exchange, but why are you running the stable branch on your desktop computer? You would spare yourself all that trouble by doing that.
>by not doing that
What's your excuse for not using Debian 8.3 ?
>>53481447
What's your excuse for using Debian? >Deb left Ian. Ian is dead.
>>53481447
I use debian 9
If you just want to install linux for the first time start with either:
fedora or ubuntu ( pick any Ubuntu spin - I recommend KDE, you can update it to 5.5.5 or w/e the latest verion is and it looks amazing - same goes for Fedora take kde spin )
If you take Ubuntu don't take lts take the 15.10 one.
There's an extra step you have to take with fedora - but you can find everything you need in the /g/ wiki - page for fedora.
Overall Fedora is more stable and has better results - in all matters. Ubuntu is just better than other Distros.
>randi harper
>>53481447
>start with the minimal ISO
>install it it, it picks like 10 subsets of the en locale, have to disable them using one of the dpkg abstractions
>installing stuff i need
>openbox pulls in tint2 as a dependency; i use tint2, but that's just ridiculous
>force the --no-install-recommends flag
>everything is configured and has different defaults than released by upstream
>no definitive package managing tool
>creating packages yourself is kind of complicated
>>53481436
Because when I first started using mpv I simply added the stable.
Now I need a newer version, but trying to install it has been hell, and I've come to realize I'm not competent enough to tamper with Franken-repos
I just installed Mint and the package manager installed v0.8.6 (from 2013) of smplayer. So I added a repository and installed the latest version. Why did the package manager install a 3 year old version? Would this have been avoided if I had used LMDE?
>>53481601
No you could've avoided outdated shit using Ubuntu 15.10 or Fedora 23
>>53481631
I'm not that Anon or a *buntu/Mint kind of person at all, but isn't the latest Mint based on 15.10 and using those repos?
What should I install on my new PC?
Fedora or Debian?
What do you think?
Finally installed Manjaro today. Really happy with it, looks good, easy to use. Removed some bloat and plan to minimize only to what I need over time.
Firefox version 43.0.1 comes pre-installed however. Is there a /g/ recommended "best" version? There must be something in the AUR but I want to know which to look for. Thanks!
>>53481651
Latest mint is based on 14 not 15.10, and the internet is filled with tens of benchmark tests which show that Fedora and Ubuntu 15.10 are absolute top.
Mint goes faaar behind in most cases and in some occasional places equal or little worse.
Mint glory days are over, trust me.
Ubuntu is going to release ver 16 in 2 - 3 months, then mint is going to take 2 more months to release their version.
But also in 3 months Fedora is releasing 24 so there would be no need to even care about ubuntu or mint.
Right now if you want to get good shit out of the box go with ubuntu, if you have some time on your hands pick fedora and tweak it.
>>53481679
Fedora, it's super good for a desktop.
Pick Kde, update all the shit including kde itself, th 5.5.5 looks and works amazing.
>>53481702
Forgot to ask my second question:
Any recommended essential software I should get? What are some good music players and video players?
>>53481717
Go on wiki for that, it has a good selection - personally I pick everything that is lightweight on resources and provides the necessary stuff, I pick the more resource heavy stuff when I literally use the features - like with word processors.
But video and music - pick the lightest.
>>53481704
Well, would you look at that. Went to double-check and sure enough, you know what you're talking about. Somehow just assumed Mint would be keeping up with the lastest Ubuntu releases, but I guess their focus is on stability or something. Shows what I know at any rate.
I'm a Fedora user since Beefy Miracle with, so no need to convince me on that front.
>>53481742
K thanks I'll check it out!
>>53481199
>Anyone else cringe when they see every other sentence containing "GNU + Linux"?
yeah
especially imagining someone actually using the term in a conversation
>>53481710
>someone else shilling for KDE
I thought that was my shtick
>>53481702
Nigga, it's a web browser. You install and use the latest version with all the bug and security fixes. Firefox 45 is out. Update your software.
>>53481823
Not that guy. Installed KDE a few days ago. It's great
How to gain elevated privileges in linux?
>CCU computer uses ubuntu
>when starting up, it run whatever the company uses to run the monitor
>Alt/Ctrl + F1 gives ubuntu menu, but when application launched it don't show up.
Is this because no DE is installed?
Anyway I need to install a printer driver so EKG can be printed, no manual was included with the system.
Any ideas?
>>53482147
Also would like to add that KDE is snappier that GNOME. But GNOME on Wayland is smooth af.
>>53481710
The Fedora 23 KDE spin was widely regarded as a catastrophe. I take it it has improved since release?
>>53481823
>>53482147
In case either of you are Fedora users, the above question is for you as well.
>>53482198
Not sure. I'm the one that installed KDE a few days ago. It is great. Fedora 23 came out months ago(can't remember when). Perhaps they improved upon it in the meantime? They mentioned that they were hard at work mproving it by rewriting a bunch of shit.
What do you guys think of Quebes or however thr fuck this is spelled?
>>53482237
Qubes, I believe. It's intriguing, although I have to confess I haven't looked into it properly. Will have to do so at some point, as I find the security structure of operating systems lacking in general. Ideally, users should be protected from themselves without taking away any control from them.
>>53482166
Log in as root or use sudo
Install the driver for your printer.
>>53482237
>>53482282
Oh, and on a loosely connected note, Qubes developers wrote a paper released in December about building a "stateless laptop". In short, it's discussing ways to build a modern laptop with Intel parts and so on in a way that makes it trustworthy despite all the opaque shit in the hardware. It's something I desperately hope becomes reality.
Search for "state considered harmful" if you want to have a look. I heartily recommend it, it's a very interesting read.
(To anyone confused, "state" here basically refers to writeable media, not nations or governments.)
>>53482282
>Ideally, users should be protected from themselves without taking away any control from them.
Could you say a bigger platitude than that?
>I find the security structure of operating systems lacking in general
Name an example of how the security structure of operating systems is lacking.
>>53482477
Not him but programs being able to interact wit other programs and central directories are a security risk. Crypto lockers take advantage of this. Fixing these holes would be very inconvenient though.
>>53481813
> using GNU + Linux in conversation
jesus christ who are you hanging out with?
>>53482477
I don't see how that is a platitude, honestly. Please elaborate.
Trick a user into installing one piece of malware and you can gain control of their entire system. >>53482503 puts it well. This as I understand it would not be the case in Qubes.
A lot is said about "common sense" and so on, but I'd like us to be more humble and consider that we're not perfect. Be wary, people, and question yourselves.
>>53482324
That the thing after the splash screen, it run the program, no time to even get anything.
>>53482198
Take Fedora 23 kde, because you can upgrade it with 2 - 3 lines of code.
Otherwise install w/e spin and install kde 5.5.5 over it.
>>53482232
Man the version of kde they used was old and shit just update it.
Also just update Linux kernel, and everything else and you still have the best distro up to date.
http://qttabbar.wdfiles.com/local--files/documents/preview.html
is there a way to get something like this in any file manager on GNU/Linux?
>>53482641
Would't it be better to call it.
Linux-GNU,X system,window manager,de.
If you want to specify?
Otherwise just say Linux for the sake of simplicity and to avoid confusion - after all the core part is the kernel which keeps everything together and that kernel is Linux alone.
>>53482641
Gloobus.
http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/quick-file-previewer-gloobus-preview.html
>>53482672
I don't want it on android or alpine, things made for X do still work with wayland. the DE doesn't matter because qt and GTK work on pretty much all systems with GNU (including windows through GOW or cygwin) . I'd rater only call it GNU than just calling it Linux because calling it Linux could lead to confusion.
>>53482694
thanks, but it seems to only work with nautilus and nemo, are there any other ones that work on thunar or maybe even ranger? I am thinking about switching to GNOME anyway but it would be nice to have.
why when i launch youtube video from link on 4chan i have sound, but on youtube.com page i dont?
Using arch linux.
>>53482846
Wild guess: you're getting Flash video on Youtube and HTML5 video on 4chan (or vice versa) and either of them is set to be muted somewhere.
What's the correct way to install livestreamer, through the package manager or pip? does it matter?
>>53483281
Generally no, you'll end up with the same files in the same locations.
There might be a different version in repos, generally pip has the latest version available, depends how old the latest version is and how your distro updates packages.
Also pip lets you do an install just for your user, not system wide. Can be useful if you don't have root access to install system wide packages.
Well this is cute... Is Kubuntu as terrible as the last time I tried it? Last time I tried it they shipped it with a broken network manager.
Can Mutt send email text NOT as attachment?
i've been using xubuntu for a few years now and lately i'm experiencing some random 10-20s freezing. Out of fuckin nowhere. Can't find the source, I had enough of this shit & decided i'm going to switch distros.
just want some moderately stable distro
I've been thinking:
Debian stable, Debian testing, Fedora or Open Suse.
i read somewhere that testing is not so unstable, don't know if it's true. Don't know much about fedora and opens, but people recomend them as stable distros.
So any recomendation? Maybe other distros i don't know about?
>>53478683
>I don't know anon, Is the package apt-transport-https installed?
>
>srsly
>
>sudo apt-get install apt-transport-https
That didn't work.$ sudo apt-get install apt-transport-https
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
apt-transport-https
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 139 kB of archives.
After this operation, 194 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Err http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stable/main apt-transport-https i386 1.0.9.8.1
404 Not Found
E: Failed to fetch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt-transport-https_1.0.9.8.1_i386.deb 404 Not Found
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
Just to demonstrate for whatever it's worth, I installed some random nothing program just to show my installer is totally broke.$ sudo apt-get install xmotd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
xmotd
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 26.4 kB of archives.
After this operation, 54.3 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stable/main xmotd i386 1.17.3b-8 [26.4 kB]
Fetched 26.4 kB in 12s (2,129 B/s)
Selecting previously unselected package xmotd.
(Reading database ... 371647 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../xmotd_1.17.3b-8_i386.deb ...
Unpacking xmotd (1.17.3b-8) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.13.3-6) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.58) ...
Setting up xmotd (1.17.3b-8) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47) ...
>>53484272
I'll get told not to start arguments in /flt/ again so I'll just say "not Debian".
Fedora is alright, it is stable, the package selection can get a bit poor, depends what you want to use. Not many other people around the internet create RPM packages for games and third party stuff, whereas Ubuntu is used by everyone.
What have you done to troubleshoot your Xubuntu issue? Have you done a reinstall? There are ways to figure out what your system is doing, like collect perf and ftrace, but it's a but much to walk someone through on here. Just blowing everything away and starting again would be an option.
I need a simple more or less text oriented storage, that can be safely synced between multiple devices, multiple readers but always one writer only. I'm currently looking at git/mercurial, any caveats?
>>53483935
Of course you can send an email with text...am I misunderstanding what you're asking?
>>53484272
Debian testing is stable enough if it's not a server, fedora is nice aswell.
>>53484406
>Fedora is alright, it is stable
Being the Redhat testbed, Fedora gets all kinds of break-everything changes before any other major distro, like systemd or wayland. How can people seriously recommend Fedora as a stable distro?
>>53479892
Whassup, guys. I have a pt-br keyboard layout (abnt2) that uses accentuations such as ~, ^ or `, etc.
I'm currently using antergos and my layout is set to br-abnt2 but I still can't use accentuation in my letters, such as ã or ê.
Pls help
>>53484473
>Being the Redhat testbed
Could this myth please die already.
>Wayland
Even if it manages to get enabled by default in Fedora 25, it's not like you'll have to use it, just like you don't have to use Gnome today. Gnome on X will within all likelihood remain being an option as well.
I can't bother doing this. Here, have a look at one of the developers talking about their strategy for maintaining both stability and recent packages: https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2016/01/05/fedora-workstation-and-the-quest-for-stability-and-robustness/
>>53484473
As as long user of debian/Ubuntu switching to Fedora was the best thing I ever did
>>53484440
>mutt
>"m"
>fill To
>fill Subject
>enter editor
>enter text
>exit editor
>text is as attachment
>>53484272
Just install the latest Xubuntu 15.10 from scratch. Chances are something got fucked during the previous updates.
>>53484898
It might appear that way, but that text is actually the content of the message, it's not sent as an attachment. Send it to yourself and you'll see.
>>53484511
You might want to look into "compose keys".
Hey!
I'm installing Ubuntu alongside Windows on my SSD ("Do something else" option)
It's not recognizing windows and it's showing the full 240gb available.
Anyone else have trouble with this?
>>53480473
KEK
Deps
KEK
Use a better package manager
Use mpv-build
>>53484956
well, isn't it better to just use dead keys? how can I do that?
>>53481833
You know nothing.
Firefox is changing shit behind the scenes,like disabiling themes,forcing all addons to be signed,changing to that shitty aero layout.
Use firefox-esr(long term support)
What would cause firefox to display pic releated for all buttons on websites,and buttons within addons(every addon)
>>53485203
Maybe your font doesn't support that character or maybe you have another addon blocking downloadable fonts(NoScript).
Never did this
but has a chance to play with this
>Windows Server local
>Virtualized using QEMU KVM to gain portability and ease of backup
any advice?
which distro for host system
would I even use X?
any hardware specific recommendations other than CPU supporting virtualization
What file managers do people here use?
I'm not sure if Thunar came with the Xubuntu desktop package I downloaded or if I downloaded it elsewhere, but it's on my computer and I've been using it. I liked it until I got back into working on my music backlog, when I began to notice the scrollbars jump around when I delete a folder, or drag and drop things.
>>53485299
ranger or mc for command line or thunar for gui
>>53485023
>like disabiling themes
Reworking it, and with good reason. It's an unmaintainable clusterfuck. I wouldn't be all too surprised if we have to go without themes for a while, but given that Firefox developers who are working on that use complete themes themselves, I fully expect support for complete themes to come back. Pretty much like how gnome-terminal lost transparency a while ago due to code restructuring and then regained it later on.
>forcing all addons to be signed
All details are not set in stone. Fedora developers are having talks with Mozilla and seem fairly optimistic about reaching a solution.
>changing to that shitty aero layout
You mean Australis? Meh, the only difference that switch made for me was it actually gave me a usable menu button for lazy mousing. Literally. It took me less than five minutes to make everything else look exactly like before.
None of this has been behind the scenes. Frankly, secrecy in the development of Firefox is not something Mozilla can be reasonably accused of.
>>53485258
I dont have noscript installed,just umatrix.(which is within the screenshot)
I checked within umatrix,and i did not see anything related to fonts within it.
I just tried LIberation Sans,Open Sans,Dejavu Sans and Droid Sans, and they still show the icons in addons and webpages
Hello Anons, i'd like to code some java gui. what is a good approach, what are the sources to look for?
>>53485350
If you're willing to, disable Umatrix for that site just to see what happens with those glyphs. I'm with Anon that it is probably the culprit here.
>>53485380
>>>dpt
>>53485326
>dd
>???
how do you delete shit in ranger? ive used :delete but its a bit cumbersome,
>>53485336
>themes
I've had the same theme for close to a decade,if i wanted it disabled or changed,i would change it.
>signed
Installing addons from git, dont be signed ever.This is a horrible idea.
>australls
If i wanted to use chrome i would use chrome.I've been using firefox since v1 and still have the same profle.If i wanted change i would fucking change it my self forcing me to use a hacky addon to get functionality back, its retarded.
>behind the scenes
You are a retard.Behind the scenes means doing shit changing basic functionality that has been there since the fucking thing came out.
>>53485350
Did you do you something to your browser? Like a theme or some shit.
>E844
>E839
>E83B
>E830
Those aren't valid unicode chars, they're for "private use" meaning whatever is displaying that is also responsible for supplying those chars.
https://codepoints.net/private_use_area
>>53485382
I uninstalled umatrix and restarted firefox,it is still showing the icons on websites and within addons. Is its not just one website that is doing it,sorry for not clarifying
>>53485423
I have not made any modifications to and addons, I dont have a theme installed,just using stylish,and i have not changed the theme.
>>53485417
My apologies, I did not realise the world revolves around you and that Mozilla should cater to your every whim.
You're full of shit, Anon. Have a good day.
>>53485491
There has been a VERY vocal response to these asinine changes.
If it was just me why is there a stable release derivitive just to compile things out and flat out disable others?
>>53485456
The only place I see searching for those codepoints is something called fontello.
https://lejeunechef.pct.edu/font/
They're all icons, so maybe something is trying to use that for buttons and shit. I don't know why, it's not default firefox that's for sure.
>>53485456
Huh, I suppose it's something else then. Every time I experience something similar, it gets fixed when I let scripts through.
Pick around at your other add-ons, I guess, maybe start Firefox with all of them disabled to verify if the problem is with one of them.
>>53485540
I can verify the umatrix icons were working just yesterday. I hadent been to this website for a few days so i couldnt tell you.But it is doing it within addons aswell.
>>53485608
Using a fresh profile with no addons, the icons load.Disabiling all addons in current profile results in the icons still not showing globally.
>>53485690
In your current profile folder, do you have a userChrome.css or userContent.js?
>>53485748
Just a user.js
If I don't have a desktop environment then how are shell and terminal any different?
is there any easy way to dual boot linux and windows so that you can save your session and boot to windows, and come back to that session? I've heard of fs corruption stemming from windows writing to a hibernated linux partition.
>>53485802
If you're logged into a linux virtual console, the virtual console would be the terminal. The shell is still bash/whatever.
My friend has an Eee Asus (intel Atom 1.33 Ghz, 2 GB RAM) and W7 Pro totally hogs it to death.
I'm thinking about installing Debian with LXDE or XFCE. Should I aim for something else?
Recommend alternative distros and DEs, please.
>>53485690
Start a new one and add things one at a time until it breaks. When it does, you've found the culprit.
should I let systemd auto start stuff like redshift or should that be handled by some startup file?
>>53485808
>I've heard of fs corruption stemming from windows writing to a hibernated linux partition.
Where'd you hear that?
>>53485413
space bar will mark a file so you can select multiples, im not entirely sure if there is a better way, thats the way I use to remove files and yes I agree it is a little cumbersome. if you find a better way please let me know
>>53485410
ok, thanks
>>53485957
literally anything with LXDE like Lubuntu or some shit will do
>>53485985
on further googling, appears to be that these problems are caused by win8 fast boot and failing to unmount shared folders when switching
>>53486009
been selecting with shift v, nice to know about space bar
>>53485957
>>53486061
LXDE or XFCE?
Hey guys, I'm fucking around with VirtualBox after a lot of time of not using it and I'm having some issues. I managed to install Void Linux but now when GRUB loads in, VB said "A critical error has happened". I know I don't give so much info, so if someone wants to help I can provide the info he will need.
>>53486124
LXDE is probably lighter
The biggest problem you will run into is modern web browsers using lots of ram
>>53485981
Yes,copy the redshift.service to .config/systemd/user
Then run the following
systemctl enabled --user redshift
systemctl start --user redshift
>>53486214
Yeah, browser are always the hungriest.
Is there a lighter alternative that comes close to Firefox quality or it's just a pipe dream?
>>53486213
Post the log file or something, what the fuck is somebody supposed to do with "critical error has happened"?
>>53486408
I heard midori is really really light.
Also bump for this
>>53486213
>>53486467
Ok sorry. Getting logs.
>>53486467
>http://pastebin.com/yZYtSjQm
Here it is, VBox.Log.1 Sorry if I'm too dense
>>53486423
>>53486468
Thanks! I'll check it out.
Is using an encrypted LVM bad for a SSD?
>>53479892
>Install a GNU + Linux on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
My machine doesnt have hardware acceleration i can do it anyway?
PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU HELP ME
I'm using Ubuntu gnome 15 (no memes)
And on boot up it keeps getting stuck at "a start job is running for Dev-mapper"
This has been happening since I performed a Sudo reboot
Now this is obviously something to do with the swap partition whatever the fuck that means
How do I access the terminal (not grub) to fix this and why is this happening, something like this has happened before and I randomly fixed it
Please help
>>53486555
Did you update VirtualBox since you installed the VM?
>>53486636
You can try
>>53486683
I didn't. In fact, last night I installed VM, and today installed Void Linux. After install, the only thing I did was remove the ISO from the virtual unit.
>>53486668
>ubuntu
>uneeded spacing
>/trash/
>>53486732
From the log the error seems pretty general and applies to not enough ram, wrong arch and bugs in VB.
Although something I find kinda odd, you seem to have a core 2 duo but it looks you're running the guest in 32-bit mode. It's probably not the cause but you might as well use 64-bit.
>>53486468
Why do you people keep on recommending Midori? Or insisting that there is a "lighter" browser out there. The web content is still the same. Nothing will change. Maybe if you used lynx or something like that it would.
>>53487019
Well, I didn't use VB for a very long time, so for sure I had to fuck something up.
Will do some research for creating a new virtual machine, but this is what I have and what I put on the machine.
My pc is Intel core i3-6600 with 16Gb drr4 and W10 64 bits-
So I created (or tried to) a 64-bit linux machine with 4GB Ram and 8GB hhd and one CPU. The rest is (or should be) pretty much predetermined.
So I
>>53486870
Not him, but isn't this a 'friendly' linux thread?
How unproblematic is it to check out a multitude of DEs by uninstalling some and installing different ones?
Is it a smooth process or do you have to worry that some shit might get fucked up or residue left behind (like it's often the case with Windows' shitty registry) when you do it?
>>53487294
Nothing should remain outside of your home directory. Config files might get leftover in your home directory, so remove those yourself.
>>53487100
What's the deal with lynx?
>>53487305
Thanks. Will go fuck up my UEFI dual boot system with Arch now.
>>53487315
It's a text based browser. Meaning you probably won't have all the multimedia content which can ruin the experience on a shitty PC.
My computer only has a 250gb solid state drive. Is it too small to dual boot windows and linux
(mint cinnamon)?
>>53487371
Ok. As >>53487100 said, it's a pipe dream, as it's not the browser that requires that much RAM but the content itself.
I've had a text editor use 8% of 3 GB with way too many files open.
I'm still deciding between LXDE and XFCE.
been using Kali on my spare laptop all day
after several hours of trying I was able to capture a handshake to my test network although aircrack couldn't read the password even though it was in the dictionary file I pointed it to.
Also I realized a l33t hax0r OS has a better DE/theme than any distro I've used so far
so how has your day been friends
So, after long time windows user,
decided to clonezilla my current winstall, and go all in on arch.
Installed with FDE and UEFI, which I must say, was not hard, and that is nice.
Driver support for my laptop, is pretty shit though - fans working in half speed most of the time, sometimes full speed (on windows i didn't even hear them), HiDPI stuff with needs a lot of effort to deal with, and thats even without me getting to the dual GPU and sleep/hibernate stuff, which seems to have problems as well.
Also, looks like a lot of effort will go to making windows only stuff to work on arch (photoshop, solidworks - those are just 2 examples)
I would really like some insight from a long time linux user - Why shouln't I wipe clean this installation and go back to my botnet 10?
I would really like to use arch, but it just seems impossible - I mean, are there even existing solutions for at least the main problems? (Power management, HiDPI)
Also, laptop is Dell XPS 15 9530
>>53487802
>l33t hax0r OS has a better DE/theme than any distro I've used so far
Post evidence of your claim or install gentoo.
Hey /g/, building a computer for my mom and want to use Ubuntu 14.04, however the new kernel version with 14.04.4 will not let me install deprecated drivers and shit. I tried it on my machine and based on what I read the make driver always fails because it uses some commands that were removed from the kernel between Kernel 3.8 and 4+. Any idea what to do? Some people have ported other Realtek drivers but not this one. If you're wondering, the chipset is 0bda:818b
>>53488187
unless there is a specific reason your mom needs Ubuntu, are you sure Windows won't solve all your problems and be easier for her?
Hey /g/, I modified my userChrome.css for firefox to remove the urlbar/search bar and all of this but I get a white line between the tabs and the webpage.
Any idea how I can remove that ?
here is my userChrome.css
#nav-bar, #urlbar-container, #search-container, #openLocation {
display:none!important;
}
>>53479892
I want to try out wayland, but when I start weston-launch I seem to be not able to run anything at all. And if I do call weston in an X session it just uses my X session to create windows.
What is a good way to start with wayland?
>>53488187
What's the hardware you're talking about ?
>>53488526
The RNX-N18OUBEv2
>>53488399
Go ask the desktop thread fags, they spend all day doing this type of crap.
>>53487918
Power management: install TLP, enable the services and be done with it.
HiDPI: use GTK3 and Qt5 applications exclusively, those have alright HiDPI support. CHeck the Wiki on how to enable it.
Fun things to use my rasbpian rpi for? It is already running owncloud, znc and openvpn.
>can make games run fantastically using vblank_mode=0 optirun steam launching from the terminal
>can set a desktop shortcut using optirun steam
>want to set a desktop shortcut with vblank_mode=0 optirun steam but I get an error message when launching it
not the end of the world if I have to launch this using a terminal but anyone know of a way to make this work with a clickable shortcut?
also on a sidenote, I'm surprised how many games of mine have a linux port, pretty much everything I care for aside for my racing sims has been ported
So I really only have 15.10 gb of free space after my partition and I cant really shrink it any smaller. How much should I allocate to root/home/and swap when im installing linux mint cinnamon?
>>53489016
fapping
Quick question, for an older laptop (core duo 2 + intel gpu, 4GB RAM) is Manjaro a good choice? I was using xubuntu but it's been fucking up way too often lately. I want a lightweight distro and not really feeling like switching to Mint.
>>53489070
You can set that as an environment variable. But this would probably complicate other stuff.export vblank_mode=0
>>53489144
There's that buzzword again. You won't notice any difference performance wise with Xfce on Ubuntu (Xubuntu) or on Manjaro. The only difference can be the various services enabled by default on both distributions.
>>53489337
Great, thanks.
I was just looking to drop ubuntu.
>>53489071
shameful self bump
>>53489070
prepend it with 'env'
that is, in the .desktop file (the 'shortcut'), changeexec=optirun steam %F
(or whatever it currently is), toexec=env vblank_mode=0 optirun steam %F
>>53489071
>>53489402
Are you aware that you don't have to have a partition for everything?
- First alternative is having two partitions: a very small swap partition of half of your ram or as large as your ram (even this is not a must), and a partition that has what is remaining. After this you can just mount root and be fine.
- You can learn more about logical volume managers and change the sizes as you use the system.
>>53489071
you can use a single partition for everything (as long as it's a format grub supports, it supports most of them)
you'll need a swap partition if:
- you want to use hibernate, or
- you run the risk of running out of main memory, such as on a low-memory system
otherwise a swap parititon isn't necessary, either
>>53487119
Is
it
friendly
to
type
like
this
and
not
like
normal?
>>53489777
What a shame.
Trips wasted in an anon butthurt about white space.
I'm not the first one, btw.
I'm this one. >>53487119
I hope the spacing doesn't bother you, though.
Consider I'm just trying to help you get out of the autistic zone.
>>53489722
What would I label it as the use as in the install? Would I put efi boot partition? Or would I just put ext4 journaling file system. Sorry I don't know shit about some of this
Why does gnome look and function like something you would find on a Fisher Price tablet
>>53490165
That's the intended audience
>>53489874
i've never used an efi system
i believe in that case you will need an efi (fat32) partition as well (as efi needs fat32, where linux can't use as a rootfs)
everything else can be a single ext4 partition, during install just set that partition as root (/), and that's it. root is the only partition that you need, if nothing is seperated from it (/boot, /home, etc), they will default to be stored on the root partition
also note that you can at any point split things off into other partitions if you want to later on, without needing a reinstall
>>53489554
>>53489198
I'm actually full of shit because my framerate is always capped to 60 fps no matter if I'm running vblank=0 or not
when testing with glxgears
ATTENTION: default value of option vblank_mode overridden by environment.
looks like I got another batch of googling to do, thanks for the help though familia
>>53491221
>ATTENTION: default value of option vblank_mode overridden by environment.
that's how you know it's working, the default value is enabled, but you overrode it by declaring vblank_mode as 0 in the environment before running glxgears
chances are, the games are launched with a clean environment, seperate to steam, so only steam itself is affected by what you're doing
>>53491221
>>53491522
also, most games have an option in their own settings to enable or disable vsync, if one doesn't, there is a chance it's a hard-coded limit (not many games do this, but if it does, forcing vsync off won't change it)
Hey guys, I'm back >>53487109
I managed to fix the "critial failure" from VB but now I'm confronting another issue, this time with the OS itself. I tried comprehending what's saying but I'm kinda new to this kind of OS (you know, the I-won't-take-your-hand-all-the-road)
>pic related, after booting it
>>53479892
>friendly
more like, endless circlejerk
>>53491522
you're right, just posted 90 fps in csgo with my 60hz refresh rate
also this fixed the original shot cut question:env vblank_mode=0 optirun steam
thanks for being based /flt/
>>53491522
actually, can confirm the environment given to steam does carry over to games
notice the information in the top left, that was enabled with an environment variable
>>53491773
this feature does get applied to any opengl context though, and steams' UI is rendered with opengl, so...
Should I use the open source drivers or proprietary ones with a GTX 970 on arch?
>>53481341
I'm guessing you're trying something like this:
$ sudo echo 1 > /sys/somefile
In which case echo is run as root, but the shell redirection is done as your user. To do the I/O redirection as root you can do this:
$ sudo bash -c 'echo 1 > /sys/somefile'
Or you can use a program like tee to write to the file as root:
$ echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/somefile
Have fun trashing your Manjaro "rig" with your expert beginner skills! :)
>>53491677
Can I have a selfish bump?
I just installed lxmenu by using the terminal and an install.sh file for the first time. It installed fine s far as I know but when I try to launch it, nothing happens after I enter my password. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this. What should I do?
>>53493393
>install gentoo
>>53491677
>>53493302
Double check your fstab/crypttab settings to make sure everything is setup properly.
After you fsck /dev/sda3(im assuming home) it looks for something and it isnt there,perhaps a keyfile for cryptsetup
>>53493845
I didn't choose anything encrypted since is a testing VB. /dev/sda3 is / basically
>>53493986
Is /dev/sda3 in btrfs or fat?
fsck.fat is being run
>>53494053
I'm in Windows 10, so I assumed I needed and EFI boot in VBox.
So I did a 120MB vfat /boot/efi
4GB swap
3.9 ext4 /
fsck alone returns /dev/sda3 is clean "open: file doesn't exists"
>>53480473
>using debian-based
Installing Gentoo would go a long way for you mein freund
If I would want an commercial application on my linux what would I have to do to get it for free?
I mean on windows there are always some tools, cracks, methods around for piracy how does it work on linux?
>>53494206
Nope you wouldnt need efi,as you are emulating the bios,so it can be which ever you setup.
Recheck your fstab and use UUID
(blkid will give you the values)
The most popular video in the last 6 months about windows 10 spywayre 6k views.
Random celebrity panties showed up millions of views.
Free money here, just pay 100$ - millions of views.
Shocase of advanced OCR on linux - 100 views.
Videos that discuss linux - 50k max.
Ok... so people are sheep by default.
>>53494385
I tried some BIOS installations but ended it giving "critical failure" that's why I though I needed EFI.
fstab returns nothing as it said at the booting "emergency terminal"./bin/sh: 20: fstab not found
>>53494460
fstab is a file located at /etc/fstab.It contains the connection from hardware devices to mount points(/,/home,swap,etc)
I dont use vms at all, so im not sure how you would get around this init problem
>>53494590
what you posted has nothing to do with linux.
>>53494545
Ok, I got fstab going to etc directly, thanks for the tip. I got pic related. Sorry being to short on this I don't usually mess around with VMS.
>>53491677
>>53494636
you should be using fsck.vfat, not fsck.fat, as it's a vfat partition
>>53494736
The thing is I'm not using "fstab" as command, since I'm not using a normal terminal. I did "cat fstab" because is the most I can do.
I have a very specific request.
I'm no stranger to linux, but I am to arch specifically. Right now I'm running win7, but I'm kinda restless, and I want to go to running arch to get familiar with it. I'm kinda digging the look of kde plasma as well.
What I need, is...after running through this guide
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_guide
What are the commands I need to run, in order, to get to a working KDE desktop? I have a GTX 670, intel i5 with a P75 chipset, and I'll be installing onto a single 250gb SSD.
I tried to do this a couple weeks ago, but seem to have fucked up installing (or more precisely not installing) the video driver.
>>53495545
Just do this in order
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations
Let's say I have a pretty powerful computer with two GPU's. Dual booting is a huge pain.
I was thinking of running linux as my host OS, and run a Win 7 VM for my Steam video games.
How can I go about doing this so that I can run games like Skyrim on max settings in a VM?
>>53495673
Probably easier to do it the other way around
>>53495673
Proceed using Windows on your PC, buy a laptop and install Linux on it, buy console and always play at max settings on it and sell the PC.
If you want games, Linux isn't the place to look. Linux literally misses nearly everything you need for gaming. It's worse than Mac OS X(!).
>>53495715
>Linux literally misses nearly everything you need for gaming.
What a retarded way of saying that Linux supports less games than OS X which supports less games than Windows
>>53495706
It might be. I have a linux laptop running Arch and I love it, and I was hoping to use Arch full-time on my desktop and use the Win7 VM just specifically for games.
I remember reading something a long time ago about a way where I can get the VM to target a specific GPU, and then have my host OS use the other GPU. Do you know anything to point me in the right direction?
>>53495715
I thought this was supposed to be a friendly thread, I sense a lot of bitterness coming from your reply.
>>53495809
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF
>>53495850
This is exactly what I needed, I just couldn't find the right keywords to find it. Thanks so much!
>>53495809
I see where you're coming from, but there's really no bitterness intended to be found my post, as I'm not bitter about it.
Each OS has it's own use case.
But gaming on linux just doesn't work at the moment if you want to play the latest games with highest FPS possible (as they're needed with new games). And the guy wants to play actual new vidyas with maximum perfomance, expecting it to work in a VM (lol btw, that's most likely not going to work - try Wine, that may work). Even the graphics card manufacturers don't even release drivers in a proper fashion for Linux yet.
>inb4 android gaming is linux gaming :^)
>implying Linux showed the finger to nobody :^)
>implying I'm not replying to bait :^)
>>53495964
Well, did you even read the post? It was about gaming on a Windows VM.
>>53495768
It's more accurate that less game developers support Linux/Mac, as opposed to them having to support the games.
>>53495964
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53492352
On nvidia that's not a choice, use the proprietary drivers.
>>53494322
You use free as in freedom and beer software or buy it. There's pretty much no "pirates" on GNU/Linux.
>>53495964
Update your information, you're outdated as fuck
I got into Arch after a couple of months using Ubuntu, I followed this guide: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBIeKQSiAc to install it but the guy makes 4 different partitions, I don't even understand what the purpose is, after a couple of days of use, all of my files have been saving to my "boot" partition and as a result the system informed me I'm running out of space (7gb partition) is there any way to change my main partition to my home partition if so how? What is the point of what he is doing?
>>53498066
Could you post the output of lsblk?
>>53494413
did you expect something different?
>>53498066
That video is over a year old. Why are you watching someone else's interpretation of the install process instead of following the Beginner's Guide? You could have followed it and avoided this problem.
>>53479892
>randi harper
Oh how the mighty have fallen
>>53493244
Nice, thanks.
Why is weechat breaking my messages into really small parts when i send long ones, like, i could send messages twice as long with hexchat.
>>53498066
Read the beginner's guide on the wiki, if you understand everything on that page and follow the instructions nothing can go wrong and it's quite fast. Partitions aren't hard and you need a minimum of only 2 partitions, swap is optional, separate /home is optional.
>>53501165
>swap is optional
While technically true, it should always be mentioned that having a swap is necessary for hibernation.
>>53501236
Yes, of course. Personally I think that's a shit feature though, might as well sleep or reboot. I can see it maybe being useful for laptops though, but laptops should have a swap anyway because they probably don't have 16+GB of ram like your desktop does.
>>53501242
I don't use it often myself any more but it's still nice to have available for those moments when you for any reason have to power down the machine and want to come back to the same session. Honestly, I don't think I've ever hibernated my laptop but I've done it on my desktop a lot.
Reason I don't do it often nowadays is that I've nuked my Windows partition. That's where hibernation has mainly shined. Hibernate → boot Windows → do Windows things → reboot and go on like nothing happened. But there's still planned power outages and such every now and then where it comes in handy.
>>53501295
I don't hibernate because the only thing worth keeping open for me are rtorrent instances and frankly I'd rather they close properly and send off their announces. Only other shit I have sitting open all the time is browser, mpv, irc. Not really fussed about saving them.
>>53501315
Different strokes for different folks. I understand not everyone thinks it's worth it. But I'm sure you agree the feature isn't worthless, generally speaking.
For stuff like the rtorrent thing you mentioned you can setup hibernation scripts that tell it to close nicely before hibernating and then start up again when the session thaws. But again, if you do not feel the draw of keeping your sessions, it's of course not worth tinkering with.
For those of you out there that think rebooting for a quick Windows session is a pain, I definitely recommend making use of hibernation.
>>53501381
>For those of you out there that think rebooting for a quick Windows session is a pain, I definitely recommend making use of hibernation.
If anything I should hibernate Windows. Shit takes so long to boot compared to linux it's a joke. Linux takes 60s to boot and log in tops, 30s of that is my bios.
>>53501404
Let's hibernate everything!
