>got a paper from police department
>they request my harddrive
Am I fucked up now? My harddrives are encrypted. What should I do?
just thoroughly format it before you give it to them?
>>55628816
Theoretical question: What is stopping you from giving them one or two clean drives, and keeping the rest on a shelf?
>>55628841
>sir, we have the permission to investigate your house
Tell them you lost it in a tragic boating accident along with all of your firearms and your virginity.
Microwave errything
>>55628816
move to russia
>>55628849
Theoretical question: If they have permission to search OP's house, why are they requesting the HDD via letter?
>>55628816
>Give them a different hard drive
>Use Piriform or CCleaner to securely wipe the HDD, like 30 passes or something, unless it's a SSD, then you're fucked.
Why are they even asking for your hard drive? Are you a suspect on some case anon?
>>55628816
What did you do? Do you have a lawyer? Do they have a warrant to search your house? Did you fuck up and answer questions and give permissions without a lawyer?
>sir we have spotted gay porn in your computer. We will tell your parents xD
>>55628816
Are you /kiddiefiddler/, lad?
>>55628861
Probably haven't received a search warrant yet
>>55628903
/thread
Overwrite once (modern harddrives do not fucking need 10 gazillion overwrites holy shit you people are dumb), send them in.
Stop being a pedo then OP
>>55628926
>overwrite once
this nigger doesn't even know of recovery tools
Give them your harddrive and get what you deserve, fucking pedo shit.
>>55628816
>Buy new drives
>Store the old drives in a security deposit box
>???
>PROFIT!!!
>>55628955
>sir, that's not the UUID that we've received from NSA. Are you sure this is not new?
>>55628816
Owerwrite everything with dd, and then install some linux distro on it.
>>55628816
Why aren't you formatting your drives now? Fucking idiot. Just install Windows 7 and Ubuntu on them and download a bunch of shitty memes. Pirate a few dozen songs and a couple movies. I could do this in a hour. They'll apologize for wasting your time. If you do that and send them in it'll look great in court. So once again, wipe them, install normie shit, send them in.
>>55628982
It's a 3TB hdd. It will take a few years to make it unrecoverable.
>destroy the drive
>tell them it was an accident
>>55628987
Are you fucking stupid or what, I tried a 2TB HDD, wiped it 35 times and nothing was recoverable. I tried like 5 recovery programs and it didn't come up with shit.
>Am I fucked up now?
Perhaps if you're actually guilty. Is this an admission of guilt?
>>55628816
Take a magnet to it. Better yet, send it to them in a package that secures things with magnets so it looks like an accident.
>>55628933
>I'm gonna flip the bits back using residual magnetism, like CSI!
>>55628987
one pass of dev/zero will make it unrecoverable.
>>55628816
Asking 4chan for legal advice is just about the dumbest thing you can do in this situation.
>>55628987
The fuck you talkin about? It took 4 days to do a 35 pass wipe on 6x 2 TB drives. Even then, the gutmann is way overkill for modern drives. 13 pass is the absolute most you'd need, 1-3 pass is adequate.
>>55628987
Yeah, your only option now is to send in a different HDD or SSD and physically destroy the platters on your current one. I recommend scratching the fuck out of them with a really sharp blade, using magnets if available, then shattering/breaking them up into small enough pieces that you can flush half of them down the shitter. Bury the other half along the wall of a large permanent structure that isn't your house.
This is why I use 200GB HDDs for storing sensitive information. They're cheap and I can format them all in minutes.
>>55628998
>I tried like 5 recovery programs and it didn't come up with shit.
LMAO
You aren't wrong, but this part of your argument is fucking retarded
>>55628816
Why are you always making shit up?
If G-men want something from you they come and get it. They don't send you some kind of heads up allowing you to destroy evidence.
Unless they're utterly stupid.
>>55629058
>>55629060
>>55628926
>Isn't aware of Recovery programs, even the consumer ones.
>FBI backdoor'd an gayphone 5.
>one wipe
>2016
>samefaggot
>>55629076
>This is why I use 200GB HDDs for storing sensitive information.
SSD is better. Once that data is gone it's so fucking gone.
>>55628859
where they use chemical castration and consider anime a cp? good idea
>>55628816
>drop it just good enough the platters shatter
>claim the mail carriers did it
>>55629119
no ssds hold the "marked to be deleted" blocks info in their bios, they don't actually delete it.
>>55629107
How? Explain your conclusion anon-kun.
>>55629136
You really think photorec and the like is anywhere close to professional data forensics software?
>>55629135
ATA Secure Erase. In less than 10 seconds, all the banks and caches are completely empty with no chance of recovery.
>>55629135
This.
>>55629163
Nice try NSA.
>>55629151
That's my point anon-kun, more the reason to securely wipe the hard drive multiple times, and unless it's linked to terrorism or CP, I'm sure they're not gonna waste their time over him.
DBAN them before sending.
>police grab your hard drives
>no files are older than the request for the drives
kek
>>55629074
>Asking 4chan for legal advice is just about the dumbest thing you can do in this situation.
It's a hypothetical. Remember shit on here is a work of fiction. No one would be dumb enough to do it for real, but it makes for an interesting discussion.
>>55629192
>I'm too dumb to fake dates on a filesystem
>>55629193
This. People are such party poopers now.
>>55628816
>Have someone wipe your drive
>Say that you dont know what was on it
>Nobody can prove intent for a criminal case
In the clear, 100%
>>55629113
>recovery programs
Because those work so great, right? Especially on shit that's been overwritten.
>>55629173
It's better than dd. Both deletion queuing and wear leveling will prevent dd from actually writing over everything in many cases. If you dont trust ATA secure erase, you better physically destroy the drive.
>>55628869
>30 passes
>police department
My nigga these regular ass police officers don't have the hardware to scope out the bits and reconstruct data
>>55628816
>Go to Northern Tool and Equipment
>Buy bucket of aluminum oxide
>Buy bag of iron oxide
>Mix 3 parts iron oxide, 1 part aluminum oxide.
>Put hard drives in a medium clay pot.
>Place mixed bag of mixture on top of hard drives.
>Put on a leather glove.
>Ignite mixture with butane torch.
>Run like hell
>Hand over cheap hard drive with clean Windows ME, Weather Bug, and AOL install to police.
Don't break the law again.
>>55629245
>inb4 bernandino case
Yeah, it definitely won't find your files, especially since you were so l33t enough to find them once. Those donut eating pigs and their shitty governmements won't recover shit at all.
>>55629113
Lol you're actually just spouting random memes or someshit, I can't discern any kind of direction in your post
You understand that recovery tools are used for drives that haven't been zeroed? They're most often used to recover data that is not accessible because it is not indexed in a given filesystem
lol you're retarded
>got a paper
>they request my harddrive
So, it's not like they're barge into your house to seize it, but just ask politely via mail? I'd say they need one as a replacement part for their PCs.
>>55628816
Mark the folders troublesome content as hidden under windows explorer and put a password in your windows user account. That should do the trick.
>>55628831
Destroying evidence is felony obstruction.
>>55629151
>do you think some shitty software meant for reading 0s and 1s is better than a professional software meant for reading 0s and 1s
no they're the same
>>55628896
>we'll also confiscate your vaping equipment
>>55629277
Could be.
Cheese Pizza coming right up
>>55629130
weebs deserve that
>>55629132
>beat the shit out of it with a baseball bat and drive over it
>claim a rampaging elephant did it
>>55628816
WHAT THE FUCK IS ON YOUR HARD DRIVE, OP!?!?
>>55629276
>isn't aware dban won't wipe HPA and DCO.
>2016
>holy fuck you're retarded.
>>55629285
Right, that's why people who can't recover their hard drives via normal means haven't paid data recovery companies thousands of dollars before.
Faggot
Just don't do anything illegal on your hard drives. Problem solved.
>>55629282
Better than the alternative.
>>55628926
Found the liberal
>>55628816
>buy a new harddrive
>install new operating system
>puts some "safe" junk files here and there so it doesnt look like a clean install
>destroy original harddrive [dont just drop it into the trash DESTROY IT]
>one method is drilling trough the hard drive a few times but im not sure how legit it is
>Not having a hidden partition inside your encrypted partition which is undetectable without the password
Honestly it's like you want to go to prison for not handing over the password
>>55628869
>unless it's a SSD, then you're fucked.
wut? SSD can't be wiped?
>>55629400
What are they even on about, SSDs wipe clean so you can't even use the must be wiped 35 times meme
>>55629393
THIS THIS THIS!
>>55629076
You're retarded. If a court proves that he destroyed his drives he'll look guilty as fuck
>tfw pretty sure I accidentally downloaded from /s/
>>55629393
Flower pot + home made thermite.
if you have an SSD leave it in the microwave for 10 minutes
>it will sparkle ans shit but dont worry about that it dont ruin the microwave.
>>55629437
But I though putting electronic stuff on your microwave only charges it? I place my iPhone 6s on my microwave to charge it immediately.
>>55629414
Can a court prove you took a shit today? No. That's because you flushed your shit down a toilet (unless you live in india). If OP sends in a drive with basic shit installed he'll look really good in court. The jury will probably think he had nothing to hide.
>>55629400
>SSD can't be wiped?
You could wipe them by filling with random data. But it is not guaranteed deletion of all data. SSDs capacity is few percent higher then capacity accessible to user and this extra space is used for trim, wear leveling, etc. All this magic is dome inside the ssd controller. So user cant directly control which memory cells are overwritten.
Best solution to this problem is to use headerless or plain text encryption. Regular encryption with header is good too, just keep in mind that you will not be able to guarantee header deletion.
>>55629074
Yeah the lawyer will sure know how to deal with your drive
>>55629509
Very True, it's not impossible for SSD's to be wiped, although it is harder. The best way is to use manufacturer tools depending on the brand of your SSD, afterwards, wipe it normally.
>>55628816
DBAN them.
>>55629213
I don't have experience in this shit how do I
>>55629113
>samefaggot
cool story bro
>>55628850
this, this always works
>>55629397
You always want to be able to hand something over.
Make another hidden encrypted partition, with something embarrassing, but legal. I suggest porn of really old people. When you are under duress, you can "break" and hand over that password, with a sobbing story of how you were attracted to your grandfather when you were a child.
>Relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiBI0yrtHUo
>>55628816
Depending on what is on there.
Nuke it, drill a hole in it.
Give them another drive?
[Spoilertagsdontwork] I have always wanted to magnet my drives while police are busting down the door but I have literally nothing to hide [/Spoilertagsdontwork]
>>55629536
Nice try retard I reverted your edits
>>55629577
>>55629573
This is what I was talking about, nice timing.
>>55629282
>>55628831
Couldn't he theoretically format it, install a clean OS, make it look like it has been used (copy some legal files to it) etc.?
>>55628915
OP, you should probably take most of your electronic devices to a friend's house or something. The po-po might confiscate them all and then you'll never see them again
>>55629560
kek
>>55629601
And involve the friend? bad idea.
>>55629113
>FBI backdoor'd an gayphone 5
Not the same guy but do you not understand the difference between a backdoor and a zero day? A backdoor is put there on purpose, usually for malicious reasons. A zero day is a kind of vulnerability that was discovered without the manufacturer having any prior knowledge of it.
>>55629255
Thermite is overkill
>>55629613
>s-sorry senpai, I want to learn hacking but /g/ won't teach me ;-;
>>55629509
>headerless
what
What are your alleged charges OP?
>>55628816
Well, what did you do OP?
>>55629656
>>55629655
isnt it obvious?
Don't tell us anything OP. It could be used against you in court. You have the right to remain silent.
>>55629634
The FBI didn't 0day the phone either, they bought the 0day from a company with a vr department like Raytheon that do this for other customers all day
>>55629655
>>55629656
>>55629667
Could be cheese pizza but it could also be classified information or otherwise stolen information.
>>55629618
I don't believe in overkill. What are you, poor?
If they sent you a letter as opposed to turning up at your house with a search warrant then they likely already have enough shit on you to put you away.
They wouldn't risk you wiping your drives and throwing some plausible deniability into the mix by sending you a request like this.
Either that or they don't have shit and hope you don't wipe your drive properly before you send it to em.
Who knows? DBAN your drives and fill it with generic shit.
>>55628816
why has no ones asked to see time stamped letter. Summer time even in /g/
>>55629719
Because this isn't /b/ or plebbit. We don't really care about proof, it's an interesting discussion even without the OP being completely honest.
>>55629730
OP is that you fagget?
If you are a pedo, turn yourself in.
what did you do to end up getting that letter op?
also microwave it.
>>55629719
>>55629738
Go back to /b/.
>>55629740
>>>/reddit/
>>55628816
You deserve it. Fuck off.
If they find out you did something to the drive you get a felony. Enjoy.
>>55629769
>>55629772
>>55629740
He obviously hasn't done anything particularly bad, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten a letter would he? If he was a pedo they would've just turned up with a search warrant.
>>55629755
Don't be doing shit like this, you need plausible deniability.
>>55629652
LUKS with detached header. Header could be somewhere else.
>>55629784
Oh and OP if they sent a letter requesting your drive, then politely decline the request.
You haven't done shit or they'd have a warrant friend, they must think you've got evidence on someone else or some shit.
No need to get paranoid about it.
>>55629697
For some reason, I really want Costco cheese pizza, now. Thanks for that.
>7 passes
>reinstall OS of choice
>fill hard drive with several hundred gigabytes of goatse
>single pass wipe, data is recoverable
>reinstall windows
>fill with several hundred gigabytes of goatse
>install windows again, don't overwrite
>precious goatse evidence now safely tucked away in windows.old folder
>encrypt drive with veracrypt
>encrypt with password "password"
several weeks will pass
>anon plz gib password we can't access data
>do not comply unless warrant issued
>>55629573
ayy lmao
OP diddled a kid
>>55628903
This can happen if you get caught in a copyright suit because sony or whatever decided they had to make someone into an example again
goddamn /g/ supporting kiddie fiddlers
Wait, the police just politely request that you send them your hd?
The fuck? Why don't they come and take it if they think you committed a crime? Are you lying to me OP?
>>55629930
>Implying the police send pedos requests for incriminating evidence
He ain't done shit.
>>55628816
Why not just hand them your computer in incognito mode
>>55629421
>implying opening an image isn't the same as downloading it
>>55629740
>pedo
I am not even pedo but I would find cheese pizza much better to fap to.
>>55628816
Every single time police wanted my drives they came and seized them, they never asked. I know your story is BS. Anyway what you should do is to consult it with a lawyer because it sounds as if they couldn't get a warrant and they're trying to get you to voluntarily deliver the drives.
>>55628816
>Hand it over as is
>find out where the evidence is stored
>convince junkyard owner to lend you giant Elektromagnet
>drive by building where evidence is stored and remotely wipe your HDD through the walls
>???
>magnets bitch
desu I don't have any illegal stuff on my computer (e.g. no pizza or shit like that)
but I feel like if the police got my drives they'd just fill them up with shit like that because they can
I know you can encrypt HDD's, but courts seem to be in the habit of violating the constitution by holding you in contempt of court until you divulge a password.
So what can you do to prove police tampering with/adding files to your computer after they enter police custody?
>>55629529
There is a secure erase SATA command that will wipe all sectors dumbass
>>55630107
>Recovery software
>2016 and not being aware of this
>Probably thinks DBan is still viable
>Isn't aware SSD are harder to wipe
Get off my board, you curry skinned nigger Poojeet.
>>55630062
Browsers often cache loaded images. People have been successfully prosecuted for having thumbnails of girls who looked like they may have been underage. If you've every browsed /b/ or hell, pretty much any porn website, you could theoretically have damning "evidence" in your browser cache.
>>55629282
nobody will know anon
>>55628816
Contact a lawyer. Even if you have to pay and he winds up telling you that you can safely ignore it, it's better than taking advice from 4chan.
>>55629151
Ok I'm not sure what mumbo jumbo the FBI uses but at the data recovery unit is the state PD they still use EnCase which is basically the same as photorec but has a lot of other useful functionality (which most molesters/CP hoarders get caught by). Most of the cases are not pedophilies though, but rather other criminals (web history, chat messages, other documents).
The recovery companies mostly fix mechanically broken hard drives then use similar programs for accidental formats. I think the department have contracted them at some point. I don't know of any case were data that has been wiped and overwritten more than twice has been recovered, even with hardware methods. If you know of one please refer to it.
Overwrite your data 7 times should be enough for the foreseeable future. Also don't fuck children and keep it to the 2D.
>>55630173
/thread
>>55628965
is it possible to spoof UUIDs?
Also, how can I prevent them from getting my UUIDs?
>>55628816
Pretty easy. Run a single pass of dban. Reinstall windows install a few nor my hints. Put pictures on it etc. modify the date created of the files randomly. You're good to go
>>55630122
Good point with SSDs, I feel that this could be an interesting area in the future. Still all cases that I got to see were hdd/sdcard/usb only, I'm not sure how they deal with SSDs as our work with the police was a little while ago.
>>55629282
"I melted my hard drives with thermite before i received your letter, perhaps you should have confiscated them in person the week before"
Done.
>>55628816
/dev/zero
change system date
install outdated wangblows
install some shitty apps
copy some usless data
change date back
run ransomware https://ransomwaretracker.abuse.ch/tracker/
>>55629192
Prove what time i opened the letter.
>>55629810
devilish
>all these posts about destroying hard drives
Why, if you're using FDE?
>>55628987
sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/<device>
>>55630289
Because it doesn't matter what you use, if the hard drive is intact it CAN be read, no exceptions.
You can't get data off a melted pile of metal.
Delete your child porn, download gay porn and give it to them. Let the faggots have fun
>>55630517
>gay porn
>not something nice like scat
>>55630542
Poo in loo
>>55630517
>>55630542
How illegal is animal scat?
Because those videos of girls eating dog shit would be good viewing for the police
Melt down hdd in charcoal forge, aluminum melts at ~1100 degrees, very easy to achieve with some lump charcoal and a hair dryer.
You should have a backup HDD full of normal shit to give them
I'm going to take an unpopular opinion here and say maybe dint destroy evidence? Obviously they know you downloaded something, and if they don't find what they know should be there, you'll be facing even worse charges.
>>55630553
Those are not illegal. Fucking a dog would be though
>>55628926
Kekkledekkle it's like you don't even realize a simple forensics distro on LiveUSB would be more than sufficient to recover a considerable amount of data from a drive with only one pass.
>>55630569
>I accidentally downloaded child porn and immediately deleted.
>my wangblows became slow so I reformatted
>>55630569
>you'll be facing even worse charges
even if it's pizza?
>>55630569
Once again, faggot, prove that i knew it was evidence when i destroyed it.
>>55628831
>>55628926
>>55628970
Destruction of evidence is a crime, at the very least you'll be charged with obstruction of justice.
>>55630573
Doesn't it depend on the location though? I thought that was how those sites like zootube have managed to keep existing.
>>55628816
Practically speaking, if you used a non-backdoored encryption with a secure key, you'll be fine. You could do one-two passes of random data if you are paranoid or don't want to have the ability to redecorate l recover the data.
>>55630615
>Once again, faggot, prove that i knew it was evidence when i destroyed it.
When they serve you a warrant for the drive, it's fucking evidence, you idiot.
If you tamper with it in any way, they'll know, and they'll throw you in jail.
>>55630635
So what?
If they prove something you won't be charged, no matter what you did.
>>55629454
Dont know if troll or literally retarder
>>55630662
You'll be charged with destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice.
You're almost guaranteeing yourself jail time, no matter what they think you did.
>>55630655
And, AGAIN, faggot, prove at any point that i destroyed the drive AFTER i was told it was evidence.
It's not illegal to break your own stuff, kid.
>>55630655
Depending on what he has on there, he might just be better off just pleading obstruction.
>>55630680
There are various forensic drive tools than can prove it.
If you went before a judge and just told them "lol it was wiped", he'll throw your lying ass in the clink.
>>55630673
No, nigger, I won't. that's not how the law works.
If I'm requested to bring in a hard drive as evidence I'm allowed to put it into microwave, as long as I bring in the remains it counts in court.
The cops don't have any more rights than I do, me and them contest in court to find me guilty or make them look like idiots and demand compensation.
>>55630680
>It's not illegal to break your own stuff, kid.
It is when you've received a subpoena to hand it over as fucking evidence in a fucking criminal investigation, you fucking idiot.
>>55630709
>Destroyed
As in physically stopped it from being able to produce any data at all.
In this letter situation, that doesn't even matter, because you have no way to prove, at all, that i read the letter BEFORE i destroyed the drive.
>whoops sorry guys i put my hard drives in the microwave every day before i open my mail
Too fucking bad for them
>>55630717
>>If I'm requested to bring in a hard drive as evidence I'm allowed to put it into microwave, as long as I bring in the remains it counts in court.
Haha, oh lord, what the fuck dude?
You should really talk to an actual lawyer about this, you're clearly way over your head.
>>55630728
Exactly what is evidence? The hard drive itself.
So as long as it's somewhat operational I'm free to do anything with it.
Files are not evidence, otherwise the files would be registered as such and requested.
>>55630731
The fact police ordered you to produce those particular drives, and you had destroyed them either before or after you were served, is essentially an admission of guilt in many jurisdictions.
Destroying the drives will make your life much much harder, I assure you.
>>55630728
Prove that i destroyed the hard drive AFTER i was given a subpoena.
>>55630747
Actually I got away with more. Because my uncle is a lawyer and my parents know the judge personally. Then I sued the cops for antisemitism and discrimination and got the retard who investigated me fired.
>>55630748
The hard drive is the evidence.
It's the same thing if the police ordered you to produce a company ledger in a fraud investigation, but you burned all the pages before handing it over.
If you hand over the ledger with scorched pages inside, the judge would fucking laugh at you while giving you a prison sentence for evidence tampering.
>>55630761
>Prove that i destroyed the hard drive AFTER i was given a subpoena.
For the last time, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.
The cops want that drive, and you've destroyed it, that means you were trying to hide something on that drive, regardless of when they requested it as evidence.
>post obvious made up story
>180+ replies
You are all tools
>>55630779
The pages are the inherent part of the ledger. The files are not an inherent part of the drive.
It's like a request to bring in a basket, you just remove everything from the basket and bring the basket itself.
>>55630757
No, it fucking is not.
If this was even remotely true, every single non-retarded business would be breaking the law when they sell off their old work machines and have the IT guys physically destroy the drives beforehand.
It's called being a responsible IT user and if i decide that i was to do this daily drive destruction before the pigs can get their hands on the drives, it's too fucking bad for them. It is NOT my responsibility to horde every single fucking object in my house on the off chance the police want it for some reason.
>>55630796
>It's like a request to bring in a basket, you just remove everything from the basket and bring the basket itself.
Are you some kind of retard?
>>55630798
Most IT staff don't destroy drives while their company is under criminal investigation, because THAT WOULD BE A CRIME.
The key factor is the active criminal investigation against this person, if the cops weren't looking into him, he could do whatever the fuck he wants with that drive, but now he knows the cops are looking into him, he's been fucking served already, destroying ANYTHING would constitute obstruction of justice at the very least, evidence tampering most likely.
>>55630789
It DOES fucking matter dickhead, because looking suspicious is a very different thing to being charged with a crime. I don't give a shit the pigs think it suspicious that i thermite'd my hard drives only a day before i claimed to find out they wanted them for evidence, they do not have that data as evidence now nor do they have any legal ability to charge me with destroying it unless they want to give me free money when it's time for my counter-suit.
Open wi-fi and no drives means they have no ability to pin anything on me even if i walk into the room wearing an 'I LOVE MASHA' t-shirt.
>>55630804
Believe me or not, that's exactly how it works in court. The cops can't do shit.
>your honor the files aren't there
>are you certain the files there were?
>no, that's why we requested the drive.
>as you can't see the files aren't there, so you have made a mistake
>b-but muh destruction of evidence
>>55630796
>The pages are the inherent part of the ledger. The files are not an inherent part of the drive.
Ledgers hold pages, and the pages hold the information sought in a subpoena.
Hard drives hold files, and the files hold the information sought in a subpoena.
They're essentially the same fucking thing, hard drives and filesystems were designed as abstract versions of fucking file cabinets for fucks sake.
>>55630824
Prove i knew i was under a criminal investigation when i destroyed the drives.
>>55630827
>>Your Honor, it appears the drives we subpoena'd have been deliberately erased
>>You goin' to jail, son.
>>55628849
What if OP hides his HD on someone else's house?
>>55630767
Do you think the law would be applied equally to us goyim, Shlomo?
Whats on it?
>>55630836
>>Prove i knew i was under a criminal investigation when i destroyed the drives.
Again, there are forensic tools that law enforcement have access to than can prove this.
Dont wipe it fag, just encrypt the shit out of it. Its basically unrecoverable afterwards and not illegal.
>>55628982
>Pirate a few dozen songs and a couple movies
And get arrested anyway
>>55630852
If you make it. The law is just a tool, that can be interpreted as loosely as people want it to be.
Pretty sure the police don't do this.
No one would be that stupid. It would like sending someone a letter a month before a drug raid.
>>55630790
Everyone would agree the story is likely bullshit.
More of an interesting discussion on how to wipe drives and what not.
I don't think many people here would help a legit criminal due to all the tinfoil and I highly doubt that a legit criminal would post here asking for help in the first place.
>>55630861 There is no RTC inside HDD. They cant say when you wiped them. If you do it properly of course.
>>55628816
go back in time and kill yourself for being a pedo
>>55630880
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpoena_duces_tecum
>>55630907
Surely they have to charge you with something for that to stand?
>>55628816
Send them an empty hard drive and hide/destroy the old one.
Give them a different drive.
>>55628816
So what did you do?
>>55630934
He looked at anime.
In other words, he's a pedophile.
I hope the cops throw the entire book at him.
>>55630915
Nope, it's purely to support a criminal investigation, no charges necessary.
Just needs a judge's signature.
>>55628816
memes aside would frying the hard drive result in a lesser charge than them finding terrorist material/pirated movies/anime cheese pizza? some lawyer tell me
>>55628816
They're testing to see if you're cop material.
If you pass the test, they will give you a cop medal and you will become a cop.
Do not destroy the hard drive. Otherwise you will fail the test
>>55629618
thermite doesn't even work all that well. There was a whole talk about fucking hard drives up in blackhat one year.
The presentation is in youtube.
>>55628816
I'll file that under things that never happened OP.
>>55628816
A request? Politely decline, you don't gave to give them anything.
>>55631010
>Politely
>>55629193
>shit on here is a work of fiction
No, you're thinking about /b/, this is /g/. I know they rhyme, but that's no reason to confuse them.
super easy OP, freeze your hard drive over night and keep it in a cooler until you get to the police office. when you walking up to hand it in fake trip really hard and smash the hard drive on the ground. Make sure you spill a bunch of spaghetti. They'll think you're a klutz and you'll shatter the platters
1)buy a new drive and copy all data from old to new.
2) run DBAN a few times on old drive.
3) format drive a few times.
4) encrypt that bad boy
5) stop being a child fiddler
>>55628816
>muh fifth amendment
If they just sent a letter asking for it, it is NOT legally evidence yet. Just blow it the fuck up. It doesn't matter how guilty it makes you look. You can't get in trouble for destroying evidence if they don't even have enough proof for a warrant.
They're literally just taking a shot in the dark and hoping it works. Just say no, thank you officers, and destroy your hard drives, just hit them with hammers. Get new drives for your own use and keep them clean. When the fuzz come with a warrant, you can give them what you are still using.
Without proof they can't do shit. At least in freedomland. Even if they prove you smashed the drives, you still won't have done anything wrong and they will be no closer to proving any felony.
>>55630861
Use your forensic tools to date the time i made pile of molten aluminium and iron, sure thing.
>>55630866
Yeah, if your parents know the judge personally you fucking retard.
>>55631048
>you'll shatter the platters
you literally wrote all that just to say this, didn't you
>>55631072
>I'm le poet and didn't even know it xD
Hire blackie to break into your house and steal your stuff
>>55629254
My nigga they send them off
>>55629278
> whats your password
>>55631069
Well, even if if didn't I still have contacts.
Just start attending upper-class social events, idiot. Charity fundraisers, classical music concerts, art exhibitions etc.
Before you know it you will know anyone who's anything.
For extra points join a masonic lodge.
>>55631107
Written on a piece of paper in my room somewhere
When they can't find it, too bad.
>>55630757
So if police requests you bring that knife you killed 200 people with, and you don't bring anything because you don't have it, you are guilty of killing 200 people? Your logic.
Run DBAN and then install a virus or 20
>>55629282
what evidence?
>>55631144
Pretty hard to run a computer with no hard drive
>>55628816
>remove all harddrives
>drill them then dump in nearby lake
>buy used harddrives
>format
>overwrite with random data
>format
>install shitty encrypted ubuntu
>$ touch -d 'insert random date here' /*
>download random shit change date on that
>download lots of porn (bait)
>change date on the porn
>>55631169
>DOS
>Live CD
>>55629601
OP should take the electronics and put them in boxes and Bury them in his back yard
>>55628816
Okay OP, I'm seeing a lot of posts saying that "Hurr just wipe it once and you'll be fine", "recovery tools won't work on dban lelel". You are aware that the CIA can even recover burnt files right? I mean sure, we're probably talking only about Coppers or even the FBI, but I mean even the CIA spookies have access to that technology, what makes you think that low level law enforcement doesn't have access to sophisticated forensic shit?
What could they even do if your shit is encrypted?
I remember reading a story in the local news about a guy who allegedly had cp on his laptop but they couldn't prove shit since it was encrypted so he's free until they can crack the encryption which still hasn't seen progress in a year or so.
>>55628831
Do a Hillary.
>>55631229
Try to decrypt it and eventually give up? I don't know
>>55630665
Fucking newfag
>buy $40 ransomware code
>unleash the beast
>blame it on l33t haxors who infected your pc
>>55631283
> >buy ransomware
Nigga you what? I literally have one, it's an obfuscated JS file. I can share if you want. Only works on x32 Windows, tho.
>>55628816
Give them the harddrive. Because you were stupid enough to not store your shit and application cache on a usb stick.
>>55631229
>What could they even do if your shit is encrypted?
The judge can order you to supply the password.
If you don't, contempt of court at the bare minimum.
>>55631319
Decrypt it by trying passwords from websites you use.
>>55630235
lol
>>55631229
Depends on the country and its key disclosure laws. In some places refusing to disclose the key is a crime in itself so you're fucked either way. In theory, in the "land of the free" you have the right not to incriminate yourself, but there already were some cases where the courts decided it didn't apply because fuck you, that's why.
>>55629151
>You really think photorec and the like is anywhere close to professional data forensics software?
What makes those programs special? It's just software like any other, how do they know more than anyone else, just because you have to pay?
>>55631144
Literally not the same thing.
Subpoenas are served to provide evidence to the police they already know you have.
If OP got served, the police know he has the drive, they want to know what's on it.
In your analogy, the police might have a sample of blood from one of the 200 crime scenes, and would subpoena you for a DNA sample.
Or put another way, they know you've got security cameras set up at your house, the house that you lead your 200 victims to your kill dungeon, and subpoena you for the video tapes so they can link the victims to the scene.
>>55631357
>In theory, in the "land of the free" you have the right not to incriminate yourself
5th Amendment doesn't apply with password requests, a judge can still compel you to provide it.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160428/07395434297/so-much-fifth-amendment-man-jailed-seven-months-not-turning-over-password.shtml
>>55628816
Install a bunch of software that comes bundled with toolbars, adware and spyware. Install shaddy chinese programs and the like. Use that as an excuse for having whatever it is that you have illegal on your PC
>>55631237
Just don't intend to comit any crimes and you're golden.
