>Headphone purchase advice
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>>55590680
In the market for new headphones
Budget 160 EUR
Full-sized around ear
Detachable cable
Impedance shouldn't be too high. I don't want to carry an amp everywhere I go
Sennheiser HD 558
or
Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro
or something else?
I will be listening to Type 2-5 most of the time
Thank god my parents are leaving me a house for a year so I wont have to wear headclamps anymore.
I still love my denon d5000, would get the equivalent Fostexes as an easy to drive headphone
>>55617864
HD558 and DT990 are open headphones, meaning they leak sound. HD558 is easier to drive.
>>55617893
Sound leaks are okay. I already have closed AKGs for quiet situations
>>55615544
thanks anon that helps me decide somewhat whether to stay with the lcd 2 or not
The headphones come in tomorrow so I guess as long as I can wear them and I enjoy the sound more than my Hd600s I'll keep them
thank you very much anon
xoxo
>>55617804
Should I sell my HD 600 and my bottle head crack and just buy some audeze LCD-2's to use with my iDAC2?
>>55618304
HD600 is the best open headphone in production and it's surely better than the Audeze.
someone last thread suggested
hje120. they look alright and for 6 bucks wtf do you expect, right?
>>55618435
I'm not most sure about that
I did a comparison with the audeze.
They are much more bassy for sure. Soundstage is a bit wider. And jazz sounded so much better with them
>Budget
70-120 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
SMSL M2 DAC if I ever get it to not suck ass.
>Preferred type of headphone
Looking for IEMS
>Open or closed
IEMS
>Comfort level
Would like something that doesn't stick out
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or Bassy
>Past headphones
ETYMOTIC
My Etymotic are just about to die and I'd like to get something with a removable cable.
Looking at either Shure SE215s, AT ATH-IM50s or MEE audio M6 pros.
Any comments?
>>55618468
Subjective. I never heard any Audeze headphone that sounded good. I wish I could hear the LCD-1, that's pretty neutral.
>>55618575
Anything but SE215.
>>55618438
Xiaomi Hybrids
>>55618438
I've owned thousands of dollars in IEMs.
Nothing is more comfortable than the HJE120 and it's only $6.
Not a headphones question, but what's a good 50-80 dollars speaker set for a desktop?
i've only ever had 2 pairs of stereo headphones, Sony MDR-V6 and Audio Technica ATH-M50x's.
I was looking at some cheaper models from the wiki (monoprice DJ and the superlux hd 668b). Is there a significant difference in sound between these types of headphones? i am a pleb who will be using them mostly to listen to music from my laptop and for some gaming
>>55618605
I heard the LCD-4's at AXPONIA
They were my favorite headphones showcased there.
Too bad for the price tag :'^(
>The you will never line to own a pair of LCD-4's
Why live /g/
>>55618672
MB42.
>>55618723
The Superlux is better.
>>55618749
is there a significant sound difference between the superlux and audio technicas? i dont really care about the money, I just want something that sounds good and will last a while
>>55618789
Superlux is open, Audio-Technica is closed, they have a different sound signature, the Audio-Technica has more bass. What happened to your V6 and M50x?
>>55618738
>tfw I will never own LCD-4
Feelsgoodman. They are overpriced and measures like shit.
If HD600 is too bright for you, you'd certainly enjoy LCD-2. I know I don't, LCD-2 is not much different from the LCD-4 in terms of sound.
>>55618813
v6 cord broke several years ago. the latch on the right ear of my m50x just broke a couple days ago. it is not a repairable break; i would take a picture but my phone is ass. anything you can recommend in the 50-150 price range that is closed? should I just rebuy the m50s?
>>55618575
ATH-IM50 is bassy.
SE215 is really bassy.
M6 pro was bassy IIRC.
IM50 probably has the most rugged build, but it is more bulky than the other sets.
>>55618605
>I wish I could hear the LCD-1
I could have bought the set off that vintage obsessed furfag, but I didn't expect it to be good.
>pretty neutral
There are probably a couple of fixes that should be made to that headphone, such as minimizing baffle leak. Otherwise generally competent.
>>55618738
>Audio eXPO North America (AXPONA)
As for the LCD-4, eh...
The sensitivity is poor, the glossy grills are a grease magnet, and the mass is high. I've never found a headphone response I liked stock.
I have an ATH-MSR7 but it gets unconfortable with extended usage (about 3 hours). I replaced the pads with the Brainwavz HM5 pads and its a million times more confortable, but the bass line was completely destroyed.
Any other good Closed Cans headphones under 300$ that has swappable 3.5mm cable? (no chinese producst please)
>>55618614
>>55618636
Thanks for the suggestions guys, seriously.
>>55618971
https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-DT-770-Pro-ohm/dp/B0016MNAAI
DT770 Pro 80ohm.
>>55619019
Get PM-3 pham. I found MSR7 to be pretty shit in both sound and comfort.
>>55618636
Disagree on comfort, but I guess the sound is fine.
>>55619052
PM3 comfort is not exactly great either. It's a small headphone, and small headphones mean less room for pads and frame.
PM3 is bassier and not less leak prone itself. It's a matter of taste and such.
>>55619052
do the dt770's need an amp or will they work with computers/listening devices? reviews are unclear
>>55619052
I seriously wanted the OPPOs but i have a gigantic bias against anything that is both manufactured and developed in china. If its a US/European company, that manufactures in china, OK. But if its both designed and made in China, Nope.
This is not direcly related to audio. My previous job required me to live in china for 2 years and i got to see how companies work there and that was the reason of me quitting. Its a life motto. Dont trust china.
>>55619089
>Disagree on comfort, but I guess the sound is fine.
Funnily, I dislike the sound, it's a bit muffled. But I haven't tried anything that's more comfortable and has lower microphonics. It's the only IEM that I can tolerate without a shirt clip.
Can you name some IEMs that are more comfortable in your experience?
>PM3 comfort is not exactly great either. It's a small headphone, and small headphones mean less room for pads and frame.
PM3 is bassier and not less leak prone itself. It's a matter of taste and such.
It's entirely subjective, I'm aware of the PM-3's small pads being a problem for those with larger ears but the MSR7 puts pressure on the top of my skull, I found it really uncomfortable and it's odd since I can tolerate many headphones. On the sound signature of both headphones, the PM-3 has much more bass but the mids and highs are more accurate, the MSR7 sounds a bit recessed around the mids and lower treble and a bit bright around the 9kHz area.
Hai there
>>55619107
It doesn't need an amp.
>>55619137
Dude, it's fine, it feels really premium too, only problem I can think is if you've got large ears. I consider mine to be normal sized.
>>55619019
>>55619171
I have the same issue with the MSR7, and it got fixed by bending a bit the headpiece (just put the headphones on a pillow for a day or two) and addind the HM5's pads (almost double the size of the standard)
BUT, the MSR7 have a bright sound signature, not bassy at all, and the HM5 pads completely kill whatever bass was left there.
>>55619214
The sound is a bit lackluster, the DT250 is a better alternative but suffers from shit channel matching on both the 80ohm and 250ohm editions.
>>55619171
The nicest thing I can recall is the Westone 2. Tiny shells that are easily inserted, with a wide cable angle to make over-ear fit easier. Sound is not so award winning.
Tried the refreshed Westone line, and I don't like the changes that they made to its ergonomics and construction.
>MSR7
The upper midrange/low treble has a drop, maybe a little bit around the upper-bass/low mid transition. There's a local peak somewhere around 9 kHz like you say, but if the lower treble were more filled in, it wouldn't come across as a peak.
For the PM3, I hear PM3 as having similar issue issues as MSR7, but with more bass.
Which ones and why?
>>55619107
i have the 250 ohm version of the dt990 pro and i dont need any amp (not even when i use them with my ipod / iphone) but i bought an amp and they sound even better now
>>55619338
9500 if your budget is low
Fidelios if your budget allows it
The fidelio is an upgrade over the 9500, and a huge one.
>>55619338
Get the hd600's if the price is close to the x2's. Much better headphone.
>>55619516
How much should I consider if I want a used HD 600? A guy last thread scored a X2 at 150 bucks, which I never see for HD600.
>>55619331
I had a W1 for a while, sound wasn't that great, felt rolled off at both ends. Not a fan of around-ear design, but it's much better than Shure's SE design however.
When I first got the PM-3 I found it too warm and too bassy but it grew on me. It's one headphone I don't mind stepping outside with as well.
Maybe the bass makes these issues less noticeable. The MSR7 did sound a bit thin at times too, makes me wonder if they are leaky.
>>55619543
I'm from the UK so i'm not sure, the hd600 is $110 more than the x2 on amazon.com, I actually thought they'd be closer in price than that. Get a used but good condition hd600 if you can. They're near perfect and the only headphone i've never felt the need to EQ.
>>55619543
Nobody sells their HD600s because they are perfect ;)
>>55619639
Lol I was wondering that myself, I just checked ebay and there are no used ones.
>>55618999
>The sensitivity is poor, the glossy grills are a grease magnet, and the mass is high. I've never found a headphone response I liked stock.
Are you part of the audiophile scene. Jesus, you've heard a lot of headphones. Do you smile and give them positive impressions but keep your thoughts to yourself?
Bought HD558 for 50 euros brand new, is the mod a meme for them or does it actually increase and make them sound far superior than before?
>>55618575
Have you made the same request for something like the last half dozen /hpg/ threads?
been wanting to get into the audio game. are m6 pro's and a fiio x1 a good place to start? I currently listen to music on my nexus 6 with xiaomi piston 3
>>55619805
meme.
>>55619805
Oh and does the burn in period a real thing aswell or just another meme by /g/?
>>55619812
stick with the nexus 6 and piston 3
DAPs are a meme.
>>55619826
meme
>>55619188
Do you say "Mellon" every time you turn it on?
>>55619826
Objectivists say meme, subjectivists say depends on the headphone.
Why are all IEMs really bassy?
And for the last question in regards of the HD 558, I'll mainly use them for music/gaming, do I need any DAC/AMP, a few people has said to me that most motherboards only output 32 ohm's, and that these headphones use 50, so if I for an example make it max sound, it'll sound like shit and the sound waves will flatten out or someshit.
>>55619893
They aren't. Only the cheap ones are as most consumers prefer a bit of a v-shape. I believe it is because human audio perception is a bit weak in the upper treble and lower bass regions.
>>55619171
>n you name some IEMs that are more comfortable
Although pretty shit the Bose IEMs are really comfy.
>>55619847
I don't have a choice m8, it doesn't work otherwise.
I got a pair of HD 598 SE's for 109 cdn on amazon prime day, my first pair of open back headphones. I thought it was a pretty sweet deal.
How often do you use IEMs? What kind do you have? Do you like them? More than your Headphones?
>Budget
Around $150 CDN
>Location
Canada
>Source
Mainly for use with my desktop, but could be used on my phone sometimes.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed I think. I am in a quiet room, but sometimes there are people in here that I don't want hearing the sound leakage.
>Comfort level
I need something that I can wear for hours.
>Preferred tonal balance
Not too sure about this one really.
>Past headphones
SoundMagic E10
TurtleBeach X12 (What I wanna replace)
Would mostly be using these headphones for gaymin, anime and listening to rock, folk and jpop stuff.
>>55619893
Not all are.
>>55619906
No you don't, this is the most retarded shit I've read all day.
>>55619964
When I'm consuming media on my smartphone and I want to block external noise. I use ER-4PT. They're just as good as my headphones.
>>55619982
MDR-7506 or MDR-V6.
Canada gets cucked with prices.
>>55620002
Are you against using an amp for ~40 ohm headphones? or is it a more "it's not a huge deal" kinda thing?
>>55619964
>How often do you use IEMs?
Nearly daily.
>What kind do you have?
MA750
>Do you like them?
They are great.
>More than your Headphones?
Not more than my HD650.
>>55620002
Thanks for answering my autistic questions and sorry at the same time.
>>55620022
Yeah, I am aware of how shitty Canadian prices are right now...
Out of those, would you say the MDR-V6 is better?
How are the k702 these days in comparison for 90℅ of the time playing fps
>Budget
70-150
>Location
USA
>Source
Gaming, movies.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Long hours usage
>Preferred tonal balance
Clear with some bass
>Past headphones
Some 200 dollar razor 7.1 that I got for 60 bux.
>side note
I wouldn't mind buying an amp either. So a total of 250 I'll spent max
>>55617804
studio professional phones
why would you want these for comfort listening
>>55619964
Weekly now, occasionally daily when I'm on the move. ER-4S are the ones I use and I like them very much. Leaving the response stock I like them better than any of my headphones.
>>55620030
Not that anon but your question makes no sense and shows complete lack of understanding of impedance as well as sound in general.
Nothing outputs Ohms, "max sound" doesn't mean anything specific, sounding like shit is subjective and sound waves flattening out is just... what. DAC is completely irrelevant here.
>>55620245
Why would you think they should be any different? What is a "studio professional (head)phone"?
>Budget
300€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Iphone 6
>Preffered type of Headset
Noise cancelling for flights
>Open or closed
It has to be closed then I guess
>Comfort level
Should be fairly comfy, since I want to were them for a couple of hours while flying
Sound quality isnt that much of an issue for me since Im fairly "casual" listener. Thanks in advance
>>55620030
Here's what, buy the headphones, use them with whatever you have. The HD558 are very efficient headphones. Ignore the impedance rating.
BUT the HD558 can benefit from an amp because of their impedance response, this is different from the rating that I mentioned earlier. If you can, order something like a FiiO E10K to try it with the HD558, if it makes no difference, return it.
>>55620400
>BUT the HD558 can benefit from an amp because of their impedance response
Or alternatively the anon with the HD 558s could just learn to EQ assuming there is a problem with the voltage division in the first place.
>>55617804
Opinions on Bose SoundTrue?
>>55620302
>Sound quality isnt that much of an issue for me since Im fairly "casual" listener
You shouldn't be looking to spend up to 300€ then.
Get the dt770 80 ohms version.
>>55620298
>Weekly now, occasionally daily when I'm on the move. ER-4S are the ones I use and I like them very much. Leaving the response stock I like them better than any of my headphones.
When the SR and XR go live on amazon I'm gonna blow $700 on them. RIP wallet.
>>55620039
>MA750
I see these shilled here by you more than likely alone. Are they only behind ears? How is the build quality? How is the sound? Did you get them from amazon?
>>55617804
>Budget
$210
>Location
US
>Source
HTC 10
>Preferred type of headphone
To be used in university, considering IEM so that I may bike with them on. Full back closed would be usable for the bus but I will probably start using my own car now too so just biking around campus and enjoying the headphones in the libraries/study areas.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Good, nothing stupid which also happen to look autistic.
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know, don't even listen to enough music but will download some more to expand the library.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser PC 363d, these are nice because they offer decent sound on a gaming product. The clarity of music is really nice, notes and vocals hit hard and clear whether it's Stravinsky or some Jpop shit I downloaded recently.
>Budget
$100
>Location
US
>Source
desktop, laptop, phone
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
11/10
>Preferred tonal balance
flexible
>Past headphones
Grado SR60i only ones of note
I'm looking for a good $100 pair of headphones (more if you know of something killer, hard limit at $200) that's efficient, closed back with good isolation, and is just a good all around headphone. Preferably with a removable cable, but as long as the default isn't retarded, I'll accept attached.
>>55620302
Bose makes the best noise cancelling headphones. Just get whatever fits your price range and preferences.
>>55620428
>DT770 for flights
lolno
>>55620446
Don't bike with IEMs, son. Don't wanna see you get in an accident. Anyway, MDR-7506 is what I recommend.
>>55620302
If you want ANC(which actually is super nice on flights), get the QC25 or if you want to blow even more money, QC35. Both are excellent for what they do as long as you run them in active mode.
>>55620478
MDR-V6 or MDR-7506.
>>55620427
Overpriced, but really comfortable and a pretty flat sound signature. Good isolation too. If you can get a deal I'd say they're a good buy.
>>55620302
Go to the mall
Try the Quiet Comfort 20 IEM in the fancy electronics store or whatever
https://www.amazon.com/Bose-QuietComfort-Acoustic-Cancelling-Headphones/dp/B00X9KV0HU
This has some real noise cancelling power without having to probe your ear, so better comfort. Very expensive though.
>>55620083
Same thing, different internal wiring but doesn't make a difference in sound, just get whichever is cheaper.
>>55620493
Why not?
>>55620127
Should be alright.
>budget
$60
>location
U.S.
>source
phone or audio interface via 1/4" jack, I have a 3.5mm to 1/4" adapter
>type
IEMs or on-ears
>comfort level
Something I could wear for 2hrs straight without my ears feeling too soar
>tonal preference
Balanced or with slightly boosted bass
>past headphones
Ostry kc06 and brainwavz s5
What do you suggest?
>>55620127
They should be great for positional awareness etc but the bass is lacking. Accurate headphones but not very fun. Also some effects will sound harsh/piercing (near sniper shots in bf4 for example)
>>55620603
PX 200 II
>>55618999
Thanks for the correction, anon.
What cans are you listening to currently?
>>55619575
Hah, sounds like the W1 to me.
The W2 isn't missing its low end, but the treble range is mostly shelved down. At least it makes sound up 18-20 kHz. It still sounds like WBFK treble though, if you know the various TWFK IEMs (CK10, DBA02/B2, VC1000, GR01, q-jays, R50, etc.).
>>55619740
>Are you part of the audiophile scene.
Do I go to trade shows and serve as a member of audiophile clubs?
Several meets/events last year, but I didn't go the AES convention and local events, and the local Head-Fi meet that passed last month. I don't think I will be attending any events in the near future.
>Jesus, you've heard a lot of headphones
I don't think I've said anything that indicates that, but maybe a couple hundred sets. I'm not sure, I don't bother counting.
I do make some effort to listen to sets that other people might find interesting.
>Do you smile and give them positive impressions but keep your thoughts to yourself?
Oh dear.
There's always something wrong about the sound of every headphone.
While I don't always say everything I think, I don't only have bad impressions about headphones. It also makes for something to talk about with the salesperson or owner.
>>55620658
Not to bash sennhieser and I know sound is more important then looks but these look like something that would come with a portable dvd player package deal
>>55620440
Not >>55620039
>Are they only behind ears?
Yes
>How is the build quality?
The metal parts are good oc, but the cable is terrible!
I'm on my way to ruin my second pair with normal use.
>How is the sound?
Neutral to my ears. They does not scale well as they start distorting at higher volumes. But that is at damaging volumes.
>Did you get them from amazon?
nope
>>55619811
yeah, just trying to find the most common opinion.
Is hd600 end game? You have $500 to spend on amazon, is that what you buy? What dac/amp?
Why does simulated 5.1 on headphones sound so weird sometimes but "better" in others?
I don't use it often but once in a while I turn it on just to see what it's like and it can vary from a disgusting echoing mess to an actual improvement over what I heard before.
>>55620440
>I see these shilled here by you more than likely alone.
They are a popular set of IEMs. Check IF's Wall of Fame or most audio enthusiast forums and you'll see them "shilled."
>Are they only behind ears?
Yes. They have a light memory wire.
>How is the build quality?
Pretty solid. The enclosures are stainless steel. The strain relief on the cables are sturdy. The cables are about twice as beefy as other IEMs (see pic comparing them to my old GR07) and the plug is nice and chunky.
>Did you get them from amazon?
Yes.
>Budget
<$40 USD
>Location
WA, USA
>Source
Galaxy S5, O2+ODAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Preferably IEMS, but I know at this price point that's unlikely
>Open or closed
Closed, and isolating
>Comfort level
Something I can wear for a couple hours without it being painful
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral (a little bass is good)
>Past headphones
Hifiman RE-400(lost yesterday), HD 600, HD 558 (old)
I just lost my RE-400s driving across the country the other day and I'd like a relatively cheap replacement to hold me over till I get another pair (they're fantastic for the price).
Something that I can get at a local store would be great, it doesn't have to be top notch, I just want a decent throwaway that won't drive me crazy and ideally has good isolation.
>>55621026
Those look a little large at the jack. If say you used that with your phone and put it in your pocket would that relief get in the way?
>>55621048
http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ
>>55620583
Good to know, thanks. Can you make any recommendations for microphones to go with this? I would like to be able to talk with friends of mine over Discord with these on.
>>55621105
>If say you used that with your phone and put it in your pocket would that relief get in the way?
I'd say it depends on the size of your phone but I don't put my phone in my pocket anyway. I have a Note 5 and a belt holster for it.
>>55619964
>How often do you use IEMs?
Roughly every other day.
>What kind do you have?
Etymotic MK5
>Do you like them?
They're okay.
They serve about as well as the ER-4S in sound, and I used a lot of EQ on them both. They're more sensitive than the ER-4S and cheaper, so the ER-4 went away.
>More than your Headphones?
I don't use my headphones much, but do I like it better? Probably not.
>>55620692
Not much, sold off other headphones besides the old HD600 that is in no condition to sell.
Eventually it'll break in some way that is more money than I want to repair it with. What headphone to buy then?
>>55621005
HD600 + O2 amp.
No DAC, motherboard is fine as a DAC.
>>55621023
Depends on which one you use. Overwatch's Dolby Atmos is really good and doesn't sound false and full of effects.
>>55621421
MK5 I found too bright, did anyone ever measure it with Ety filters?
>>55621790
>Overwatch's Dolby Atmos
Shit need to try it.
>>55621005
It's the best headphone i've ever tried. Forget all the quirky audio terms, the sound signature just sounds 'right'. Detailed and full sounding.
I also have the o2 amp and odac, the amp is needed imo and the dac is a small bonus.
Hey /hpg/ The wiki says that the Mi5 has one of the best audio outputs of any smartphone out there, but when I look at other sources and reviewers, they say it's really bad. Wtf? Anybody got experience running from the Xiaomi mi5?
>>55622356
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_5-review-1411p6.php
>Budget
$150 hard cap
>Location
US
>Source
USB
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
N/A
Need a mic too, prefer boom
>>55621790
ER4 filters are 1500 ohm, I don't recall the other filter values, but they might be less; let me look that up.
I struggled to tolerate the ER4S stock (head-fi set my expectations too high), and used EQ on the 4S, so I don't have any issue with that.
>>55618232
Addendum:
Heard an LCD again, the LCD3.
Headphone has more problem with sliding around, but has less bounce to it than I recalled.
>>55622694
>I struggled to tolerate the ER4S stock
What did you find bothersome with it?
>>55620083
>>55620583
Actually, the drivers are slightly different. Check the measurements on Innerfidelity, they don't sound quite the same. The 7506 is a little more neutral, the V6 has a little bit more bass emphasis.
>>55622767
>Actually, the drivers are slightly different.
No, same driver, any variance in measurements are manufacturer variance.
t. V6/7506 parts list
>Budget
200GBP/300USD
>Location
United Kingdom
>Source
Arcam rPAC DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear (like my current ones)
>Open or closed
Open/semi open
>Comfort level
decent/comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
not that bothered about bass, more neutral if anything
>Past headphones
Superlux hd668b, current: Audio Technica ATH-AD900X
>>55622719
Drops around 7kHz followed by canal peak around 12-13kHz and another peak at around 16khz. Difficult to EQ out neatly without the proper parametric, and when I first bought it, I didn't have one on mobile.
Other little things, 2-2.5 kHz bump, broad midbass hump, subbass rolloff.
Cable stiffness was annoying as hell, cable noise more dreadful, and it resisted my attempts to force an over ear fit. At least the triflanges were better than the Shures. I blame poor user experience making me merciless in judging the sound and comparing it to obsessively equalized sets.
The second time, I wasn't sure why I bought it, because I did have a parametric that I eagerly used. Generous return policies are very appreciated.
>>55623077
HD 600.
>>55617804
Budget - Up to $400, but looking to stick in the 300s range. I'm mostly seeking for value, not best of the best.
Looking for closed cans with an ACCURATE SOUNDSTAGE for gaming, and something that I can listen to jazz, all forms of rock, hip hop and classical with little to no problems.
Have an amp already so I don't need a lot of power behind them
Any suggestions?
>>55618575
I have the 1More Triple Driver. They blow me the fuck away. Highly recommend
What amp and DAC should I get for my HD600s lads?
>>55622894
Nope, different magnets.
>Budget
Around 100-200 Dollarinos
>Location
Brazil (Everything here costs almost 1.5-2 time the regular price in murica)
>Source
I want to use them in my pc, phone and in my Yamaha keyboard
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Close
>Comfort level
Both confy and good sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Past headphones
Sony's MDR-XB450AP
>Budget
400$
>Location
Australia
>Source
Laptop/Phone. Can purchase an amp if recommended.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized.
>Open or closed
Closed unless there's a magical open headphone that works in a loud environment.
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy for long periods of time.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Oppo PM-3, MDR V-6
I'd like something that has easily replaceable pads.
I'm looking for something absolutely entry level that's on-ear. And by that I mean at or around 50 US dollars, requires no external DAC, and is quite frankly only ever going to be used during skype calls while playing video games. Comfort and on-ear are my highest priorities. Any suggestions?
>>55624216
If you're not going to be using it for portable use, over-ear is always going to be more comfortable.
>>55621421
He-400s
That's what I would recommend anon
What are the best IEMs for around $200?
Used to own a pair of ATH-IM02 but sold them foolishly during a momentary lapse in judgement. Should I just buy another pair of them?
>>55620298
For the record I wasn't the anon who asked about the 32 ohm motherboard thing. I was just curious about the anons opinion on amps/dacs with lower-but-moderate impedence
>Budget
$100-150
>Location
NY
>Source
desktop, don't own a dac
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
open since i only plan to use these at home
>Comfort level
looking for max comf
>Preferred tonal balance
no idea
>Past headphones
currently i have monster inspriation, i got them for free. they're comfortable but on the heavier side
>>55624270
Be that as it may, my highest priority is on ear because I like not having my ears totally isolated from the environment.
if i get hd598s should i get an amp, or would it work well with onboard audio for a desktop?
>>55624351
HD558
>>55624511
You could also get an open headphone if that's the case. I promise, on-ear isn't the most comfortable way to go.
so /g/
what are some headphones?
>>55622390
That leaves out the most important possible spec: the output level. The output into one specific load and unloaded is of limited use.
>>55624292
>Should I just buy another pair of them?
Why not?
>>55617864
Status audio hd2's are pretty good imo
Because /hpg/ reminded me
Will I add the new IEMs I just bought to the chart? Will I be keeping these IEMs?
[spoiler]Don't bet on it.[/spoiler]
>>55624706
Depends how loud you like your sound. I thought they were fine without an amp, then again, I never blast my audio.
>>55624966
Abyss AB1266
>>55619214
I have comfort issues with MSR7 as well, The headband doesn't bother me at all since my head is not large. What bothers me is after a few hours the outer edge of my ears start to hurt a bit. I think they are lightly touching an uncomfortable part of the hard plastic driver casing.
I tried stuffing the rim inside the pad with cotton to increase pad thickness a bit and that prolonged comfort without any perceived change in sound, but it still gets uncomfortable after a while. I bought sheep skin leather HM5 pads hoping they would retain a little more of the bass than pleather. For double the price they don't seem worth it.
That said I really love the sound signature of the MSR7, so accurate compared to my X2s, even the bass sounds better to me on MSR7 because it is has a faster response and sounds more accurate.
X2 has higher gain in the bass but is a fair bit sloppier, the mids are not as forward facing, and the treble is not as detailed. But X2s are very comfortable for long listening sessions without experiencing any listening fatigue.
My main problem with sound is that MSR7 sound much more congested than X2s and aren't anywhere near as comfortable. I keep switching between the two, can't decide.
For music I generally go with MSR7 especially if it is vocal heavy with female lead, for gaming X2s hands down no competition due to significantly wider sound stage.
But for movies and anime in particular I can't decide, leaning towards X2s for the sound stage.
My end game would probably be a headphone with very similar signature and detail as MSR7 but with a much wider sound stage and 3.5mm female jack. Though I can mod the cable so long as it is removable so I don't fuck up the headphones permanently.
>>55623778
HD 600.
>>55623960
O2 amp. DACs are a meme.
>>55624147
MDR-7506 or MDR-V6
>>55624172
What's wrong with the PM3? I'd recommend you look at MSR7, HD280 and DT250.
>>55624216
PX 200 II.
>>55624275
I'm sure he has heard those overrated headphones.
>>55624292
You should buy another since you were satisfied with them.
>>55624351
HD 558.
>>55624966
STAX SR-009.
>>55625282
What new IEMs?
>>55624940
My dude, I'm using a logitech H800 at the moment and that's really my standard for comfort. I don't need my cups to be lined with the loincloth of Christ himself.
>>55626012
>What's wrong with the PM3? I'd recommend you look at MSR7, HD280 and DT250.
Nothing at all. I just want an alternative that has easily replaceable pads. PM3 pads are quite a nuisance to replace.
>>55622593
Please?
Do i get a K550 for $125
or HD 558 for $100
Gonna be used with a AV Receiver at home and android phone on occasion
>>55617804
Hi guys, just came to say i'm very comfy with my AD900x
>>55626166
Do you need isolation?
If yes, K550 and no, HD558.
Otherwise, they have somewhat different signatures.
Is it worth buying IE 80s if I will use the with google music on my phone?
>>55626245
You better like bass a lot.
>>55626262
how much?
>Budget
350 burger dollars
>Location
US
>Source
For now, my MSI Gaming G45 z97. After a month or 2, an objective 2 odac combo thing. Reccomendations welcome.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear. Not on, and not in.
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
medium to very.
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm
>Past headphones
Hd 558, HD 598, Ath m50x
>>55626307
PM-3.
>>55626210
>Do you need isolation?
Either is fine, i've been looking for headphones for some time now and both of these are on sale in my country. The K550 being $200+ normally and the HD558 is $150.
I listen to all genres of music so i'm not really sure which would be more worthwhile, since i have no music store nearby where i can actually listen to them
>>55626277
It will be the highlight of all your music.
>>55626362
is the IE 60 better?
>>55626381
Pretty much all Senn IEMs are bassy.
Honestly, if you're just listening to the usual Top 100 stuff then it shouldn't matter.
>>55626410
Would IE 80/60 have any difference from 50 IEM when the source is google music on my phone? Is that a bottle cap of sorts?
>>55626451
Portables are meant to be driven from portable devices, so no. DAPs and portable amps make minimal, if any difference at all.
>>55623778
MSR7 is fairly accurate set of closed cans and can cost up to 300 depending on where you live. I got them for $210 retail.
The soundstage is also accurate but not very large, reasonably big for a closed set of cans though. Sounds fitting for the genres of music you listen to.
They are a little colored in the mids and lower treble so you might find them a little artificial sounding for classical. But for the other genres they should sound fine.
A bit bright sounding, depending on how sensitive your ears are you might find them sibilant on certain tracks.
They are reasonable looking and fairly portable as well so you can use them outdoors without looking like an autistic douchebag. Their sound isolation at lower frequencies is not particularly great though so you will be able to hear ambient noise at low enough volume.
Sound leakage on the other hand is very low unless you crank the volume up to max, even then leakage should be faint compared to an open set of cans.
Comfort wise they are hit and miss, generally not comfortable for long sessions depending on how large your head and ears are. Some people complain the headband presses on the top of your head and becomes irritating, other complain their ears are too large for the cups and get irritated after a while.
Personally the edges of my ears get irritated after prolonged use and headband is fine, you can try modding the pads with HM5 if your ears are big but that would demolish the sound signature apparently since the drivers are tuned with the stock pads in mind. Yet to try it myself.
If you have small ears then you might find them comfortable.
If you want an even wider sound stage that is still accurate then you will have to go for an open set. If you are willing to look into open then check out Fidelio X2 and K7xx. K7xx sounds more up your alley for your kind of music.
But I take it you have your reasons for choosing closed.
is there any difference between HD 598 and >>55619963 ? or just the color?
>>55626344
As usual, it's all preference but open is definitely the way to go if you don't need any isolation.
>>55626479
Just the colour.
should I get wired or wireless headphones?
>>55626560
wired, less that can go wrong and you don't need to worry about batteries.
>>55626012
>What new IEMs?
Bought a set of ATH-E70 for the hell of it. It was released recently, and I bought it thinking I would probably return it.
>>55626410
>>55626381
Pretty sure the IE60 has a similar amount of low mid.
Most Senn in-ears, heck, quite a lot of dynamic in-ears in general tend to bass boost. These add a lot more of low midrange, making a mess of clarity.
>>55626560
Wired is preferred if you don't have a compelling reason to ditch wires.
>>55626142
HD280 is bassy
MSR7 is bright
DT250 is the balanced one there
>>55626560
>>55626637
thank you
>>55626012
anon should i get schiit magni or an asgard for my lcd-2s
i honestly just want the asgard more for decorative properties and don't mind paying the extra if it does the same thing as the O2
BOW THAT ASS DOWN
VMODA M100
>>55626694
>i honestly just want the asgard more for decorative properties and don't mind paying the extra if it does the same thing as the O2
Not that anon but you are willing to pay an extra amount just for looks, I don't see the problem.
I would buy a tube amp for aesthetics but I don't need the extra heat as I live in a hot area.
>>55626796
i really want to buy the Lyr but im scared the tubes will add too much distortion/warmth and the lcd-2 are already warm enough
>>55626846
Apparently the Valhalla 2 is a neutral tube amp, which sounds stupid to me because why not just get solid state if you want neutral amplification. I do think they look nice, though, which is the main purpose of you considering buying a big amp.
>>55626886
it's fucking schiit
>>55626886
oh wow
thank you anon i'll probably have to get that
>>55624822
>>55626012
In similar budget/situation - why recommend the 558s over the 598s since they're within the budget?
>>55626888
Because it's cheaper, foam mod and it's not an ugly colour unless you get the special edition.
>deleting trips
>>55626911
I didn't think anyone would see it!
Good to know - thanks!
>>55626689
The market focuses on wired sets, so you have to deal with fewer options. If one wireless model isn't for you, you have fewer alternatives.
>>55626694
If you want it as a decoration, do it.
Keep in mind the Asgard can be somewhat of a mini-space heater, as a Class A amplifier would be. It's really inefficient and burns power as long as it is on, music or not.
>>55626846
>im scared the tubes will add too much distortion/warmth
Tube amplifiers don't have to do that. How that came to be, I don't know. They can be bright like the sun or just flat as they ought to be.
Tube linearization is very doable as well.
>>55626910
HD558 is effectively the same headphone as the HD598. They both use the same drivers, so you might as well save yourself the money and get the cheaper model.
>>55626479
>>55626521
Just color and a better short cable
>>55626471
thanks a lot for your advice, I'm actually going to look into the K712s after reading your post
Are VMODA M100 meme?
>>55624321
Impedance is not what's important and DACs are once again completely unrelated.
>Budget
$150
>Location
Australia
>Source
Pc, Galaxy S5
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
medium
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm
>Past headphones
nothing at all
are ATH MX headphones memes? Been looking at the m40x
Audioquest Nighthawks.
They are now my endgame phones.
Better than: HD800, LCD-X, HEX, SE846, UERR.
>>55628865
l0l
>>55628899
Keep falling for the headphone meme.
>>55628865
They literally sound like wool, even their drivers are made of wool.
>>55628865
Nice meme.
Would the HD800, possibly modded with the Super Dupont resonator, be a good upgrade from the HD600?
>>55628213
>Budget
$200-300
>Location
USA
>Source
My computer, Asus Z87-A motherboard
>Preferred type of headphone
around ear
>Open or closed
Not sure, probably closed
>Comfort level
Very, I wear my headphones a lot
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, Bassy works too.
>Past headphones
nothing at all
I dont know a whole lot about headphones, but I edit movies and commercials in a studio with ATH-50s. Im looking for somethign to use at home, mostly for playing video games and watching movies. I dont really play a ton of shooters, so positional accuracy isnt what im looking for. I mostly play shit like WoW or Dota, so Im looking for something thats both good at listening to orchestral OSTs as well as some really bassy rap or electronic music when I'm listening to my own stuff.
Been looking at Beyerdyamic headphones. Im not sure what the difference between the DT770 Pro and the DT880s are, or what would happen if I tried to drive either of the 250 ohm models without an amp.
Found Sennheiser Amperiors for 129€ (145$)
good deal?
>>55617804
There seems to be some sort of crazy Premium on those HD 600 these days. +30% compared to this winter
>Budget
$500-$1,000 AUD.
>Location
Australia.
>Source
Gigabyte Z97-D3H. Looking for an amp, recommendations welcome.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Not fussed.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or Bassy.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 449.
Is there any good headsets that aren't gross gamer trash for like 100$ or less?
>>55630174
You're better off buying something like a ModMic rather than getting a headset imo.
Hello /g/
I'm a professional CS:GO player and my previous headphones (Steelseries Siberia V2) don't work properly anymore and I'm willing to try something new, whatever you recommend. Not necessarily something that is targeted at gamers.
As I mentioned above, I play CS:GO professionally so I need something that allows me to locate people by their footsteps. A good microphone is also required.
Please nothing more than 100€, I'm a poorfag.
>>55630206
Forgot to mention, I live in Germany.
>mfw can't hear difference between FLAC and 80kbps VBR Opus through my HD600s
Is my hearing just terrible or is Opus truly this efficient of a codec?
>>55630211
>>55630211
The CSGO sound engine is utter trash; good headphones don't provide any advantage. Just get a pair of HD558 since they are cheap and comfy and good for music too.
And a standalone mic.
>>55630216
It is efficient, but those headphones simply aren't that detailed. The differences would be mostly in very high frequencies anyway, listen to cymbals for a dead giveaway.
>Order Speakers
>apparently there was some kind of local vacation and they hurried
>receive speakers
>haven't been charged for it
>the paperwork I received states no pricing for them
There's no way in hell they can make me pay for them nao, is it?
>>55630229
But those are 120€ on Amazon.de and other shops. And that doesn't even include the price for a standalone mic which I'll have to buy too.
My ears are small but they stick out a little bit less than an inch from my head. How comfortable are the stock HD600s? Will the tips of my ears touch the drivers? Is there any discomfort with plastic rimmed glasses?
>>55630262
They frequently go on sale, and standalone clip-on mics are dirt cheap (like <€10).
But if you really want headphones right now for under €100, you could try finding a pair of AD700X which should be cheaper.
>>55630269
The HD600 pads are kinda hard and won't play very nicely with glasses. But overall I think they're comfy, only problem is high clamp force. Stretch then overnight on an object and you're golden.
>>55630292
These are even more expensive than the Sennheiser, 160€.
I'll keep an eye on the HD 558 but I really need a pair now because mine don't work anymore on one side.
>>55630167
Why spend that much to get closed?
Anyway, SRH1540.
>>55630315
You could try the HD518 as well, which should be <€100.
>>55629670
No.
>>55630206
HyperX Cloud I: good mic included, good sound quality, cheap but solid. It should be an upgrade over your past headset.
>>55630216
You can't hear differences for two reasons:
1) Opus is a very efficient codec
2) HD600 is a forgiving headphones and it doesn't let details come out well.
>>55630328
>>55630229
Stop shilling Trashheiser.
Anyone know of a good sounding bluetooth receiver? (mobile, battery powered) I wanna mod my ath-m50s with bluetooth since I don't use them anymore.
>>55630325
I haven't used an open back before, but I suppose I figured closed because of computer/outside noise particularly during quiet movie scenes.
But I'm open to suggestions.
>>55630350
>recommending gamershit
lol rip Hans' pocket money
>>55630354
Give up.
>>55630328
>>55630350
>>55630404
Now I'm confused, I'll look into both but could you two say why exactly the one is better than the other?
Pls no memes and insults.
>>55630419
Generally gaming headsets are all marketing. I'd just get a good pair of headphones that suit your preferences and then add an external mic to the headphones.
>>55630354
Both transmitter and receiver must be powered by something. Wireless means strapping a fucking battery pack to the side of your head.
>>55630419
>>55630404
I recommended HyperX because it's the best choice for everyone wanting a good gaming headset below 100€, like >>55630206 clearly stated. On the other side, you keep recommending headphones which are clearly over his/her budget and which need a separate mic.
>>55630507
He did say
>Not necessarily something that is targeted at gamers
But honestly, things aren't all that great under 100€ especially since it includes the price of a mic (included or not).
>>55630442
Well the hyper x cloud 2 is just Takstar Pro80 rebranded and with a few small changes which only improve them.
For a "gaming" headset it's very good and always ends up on sale for real cheap, making it one of the best value buys for anyone who plays games and also likes decent audio quality.
>>55620478
>>55620511
This!
Also my own headphones, comfi as fuck.
>>55619137
>how companies work there and that was the reason of me quitting. Its a life motto. Dont trust china.
is this like an ethics thing? because the product is the product, and if it's good what's the problem? the vast majority of headphones are made in china. you think if the company is not chinese you'll have a better change of getting a good product or you just want chinks to be stuck in the position of hired labor?
>>55629857
Grab'em.
>>55619338
X2, easy. if you can afford it. but if you can afford a 9500 you can do better. it's just a brighter, shittier 598. it was ok when it was cheap, it's not anymore.
currently have the momentum on-ear but they're not very comfortable, thinking about getting these instead.
anyone tried them?
>>55630396
If you are only worried about ambient noise from your computer fans then open back at reasonable volume level can easily mask it.
Hell my X2s are pretty damn open with velour pads and It still manages to completely block out my desktop fans at relatively low volume.
But if you live in an area with high ambient noise then I suppose noise isolation would become more important if you do not want to crank up the volume too high. Your ears would thank you for it in the long run.
Just make sure you look up the charts and see how effective the seal is at reasonably low frequencies as well, otherwise you would be wasting your money.
Active noise cancellation is generally frowned upon but if the noise sources you encounter are constant and not erratic; Like the humming of fans, or some of the rumbling noises from cars.
Then Active noise cancellation can come in handy in reducing ambient noise, however it is not effective at cancelling erratic noise sources like people chatting.
Problem with ANC is that it requires batteries to operate the microphone and ANC circuitry. Purely Passive isolation is less intrusive and lower upkeep.
That and it adds a significant amount to the cost which can be put towards improving headphone build quality and comfort or sound quality instead.
Audiotrak Prodigy HD2 Advance DE can fully use AKG K240 Studio on its headphone amplifier?
I still can't distinguish flac from mp3...
>>55629670
First, why do you want a replacement for the 600?
Second, what do you think the 800 is going to give you? Sorrodje's mod and 800S isn't fixing coloration.
>>55630167
SRH1540. Closed and bassy. Also fits the niche of full sized closed headphones, which is apparently not very popular. Things like the Denon 2k/5k/7k and Fostex TH900/THX00 are more semi-closed
Most closed headphones are of the small and portable type, PM3, MSR7, HP50, Sine, and so on.
>>55630396
Open backs are leakier. There are more options and open acoustics are easier to manage, but not always better.
>>55630350
>HD600 is a forgiving headphones and it doesn't let details come out well.
That is not how headphone's frequency response works with codec listening and I wouldn't call HD 600 forgiving(I fail to get what people mean with this in the first place).
>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
FiiO K1 to PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Velour or aftermarket oleather such as Brainwavz Hybrids
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm or Bassy
>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681
JVC-HAFX40 IEM
I use the for music and mainly CSGO so wide soundstage is a must. If there are closed cans with great soundstage, that would be great. Thanks.
>>55630216
Neither. This is a more complex issue than a codec bitrate with a frequency response. Your headphones are more than adequate for codec listening as they have a very small impact on the outcome of a double blinded listening test. Headphone frequency response is not really related to the compression artifacts. Also yes, Opus is amazingly efficient.
>>55630778
>I still can't distinguish flac from mp3...
1. Your gear is fairly irrelevant here and what you have is perfectly fine for codec listening. It's not a limiting factor.
2. FLAC vs mp3 is completely ambiguous. Some mp3 files are awful, others sound no different from a FLAC master regardless of your gear or listening experience with codec artifacts. Bitrate and encoder used have a huge impact on such a test and the different encoders do better on different audio content.
3. Why do you want to?
Hey /g/ first time posting here. Since a few months I own my Beyerdynamics DT 770 Pro with 250 Ohm. The sound is quite awesome but I don't own a custom soundcard and my onboard card is bad. I got suggested to buy a DAC so I bought a FiiO Olympus 2 and the results have been amazing. The sound is crystal clear and I hear some sort of things in some flacs which I never heard before. My point is that I sometimes also listen to some techno/electro/house tracks and as compared to my speaker system the bass is lacking. Is this ordinary for my headphones or is there a way to boost the bass a little bit? I already activated the bass boost of my FiiO all the time but sometimes I want that little bit bass more. Are there any possibilities?
Is the superlux 668B really that good is it just a meme?
>>55630908
>DT 770
>bass is lacking
How much of a nigger are you? Use parametric EQ.
>>55630828
Try the Samson sr950 or the presonous HD 7
>>55630886
I listened to mp3 320 kbps converted by myself and 1000 kbps+ FLAC.
I'm using event WASAPI. I know, maybe it means nothing because I still reduce sound power in foobar2000
Here are spectrograms, should I hear any difference? Maybe it's just impossible?
http://screenshot.sh/mGDyUlXReDaaI
>>55631040
http://screenshot.sh/oBZCfhIdFCBhm
>>55630954
>Nigger
Well, I'm white but I think that's not the important point here. Sorry for not beeing that much into headphones. It seems that my headphones produce enough bass and I earned your hate because it's not enough for me. Okay. Never heard of a parametric eq. I googled it and it seems like it's another piece of hardware between my headphones and my pc. Here is my question. I already use my FiiO Olympus 2 and I want to use it in future too. Do I have to decide for one of those or can I use both at the same time? I'm glad that you mentioned those parametric eq's (besides calling me a nigger) but further informations would be awesome. Can you recommend one eq or even own one?
>>55630694
Are those B&O reskins?
>>55631081
Digital.
Get Equalizer APO and Peace GUI (optional). Play around with the sliders, increasing a few db under 200hz to taste, nigger.
>>55630908
>Is this ordinary for my headphones
Yes. Bass sound waves are typically difficult for dynamic driver-based headphones like yours to replicate. However the fact that they are closed means they should have better bass response than open varieties due to less leakage. Notice how they roll off fast at 30Hz and below and are also notched between 50 to 100Hz (which I'm guessing is where your problem lies), You'd have to invest in some planar magnetic drive ones like a used pair of LCD-2s to get superior bass response.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT770.pdf
Even then however you would probably still feel the bass was lacking if your reference is speakers since so much of the bass response we perceive isn't in our ears but comes from the long-length sound wave pressure that causes our chest diaphragm to compress and give us that visceral deep impact. See this:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/strengths-and-weaknesses-headphones-and-speakers
>or is there a way to boost the bass a little bit?
Like >>55630954 said, use some parametric equalization from Foobar plug-ins to boost sub-200Hz region. Much cleaner and more targeted than hardware-based EQ.
I'm a little concerned that the added noise from pushing the headphone driver in EQ is gonna become audible (well pass the 1%THD+N threshold) in the 60-100Hz region post-boost owing to measurements, but you might just try and see if it sound better or worse on the net for your preferences.
>>55631052
>>55631040
320kbps usually has a lot of compression headroom.
It also looks like that particular track is EXTREMELY amicable to compression. The spec graphs look basically identical under 16Khz, especially around the 2-3Khz region where humans are most sensitive to audible changes. Most human's hearing also cuts off around 20Khz so there is a narrow frequency window for you to be able to plausibly discern any differences.
We aren't even getting into auditory masking which can further screw up your critical listneing experience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_masking
In short, I wouldn't feel bad about it. Does the music you listen to have a low or high average dynamic range? If low try some better mastered tracks according to the Loudness Wars Database:
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/dr/desc
I've read elsewhere that pianos and solo string/wind instruments are more challenging for compression to work on like how dark scenes and fast motion kill video compression.
>>55631135
LCD headphones tend to not have nearly as much bass as people tend to say they do. Some have quite a bit less than other open coil driver models. At least the LCDs are leak resistant.
>better bass response than open varieties due to less leakage
Yes and no. Conventional open headphones are built around integrated leakage into the baffle itself. This acts somewhat like parallel leak to the earpad leakage.
Since there is always leakage, a full pressure chamber is not realizable: bass rolloff. On the other hand, the effect of the seal is reduced in importance.
>concerned that the added noise from pushing the headphone driver in EQ is gonna become audible
That is partly an FR artifact. To what extent the artifact affects the distortion measurement, I'm not sure.
>long-length sound wave pressure that causes our chest diaphragm to compress and give us that visceral deep impact.
That is contestable. The bass in a headphone may produce audible and tactile sensations in the skull and throat. There are several studies that offer a contradictory claim, and the exact opposite result even.
>>55631265
I wonder if >>55630908 is just having trouble getting a good seal on his DT770 since they look pretty placement sensitive in the uncompensated FR graphs.
>>55631130
>>55631135
Omg, this tool is awesome. After a few ups and downs the bass is perfect! Thanks a lot. As you said I boosted a bit from 20 to 100 in a curve and holy maceroni. I'm feeling like on cloud nine. Thanks a lot!
>>55631332
If you mean the position on my head - yes! If I move a little bit, the sounds literally crumble!
>>55631406
>>55631385
Glad it helped.
>>55630794
>First, why do you want a replacement for the 600?
I have the funds to upgrade to something better and I'm curious about the HD800's supposed legendary comfort.
>Second, what do you think the 800 is going to give you? Sorrodje's mod and 800S isn't fixing coloration.
There seems to be a consensus that the HD800 (with mod) is one of the best current production cans so I want to try what a flagship is all about.
Besides, it seems that the HD800 is quite popular as well in /hpg/ so surely they have their own merits.
>>55631781
>consensus
>mod
What guarantee do you have towards the sound quality being consistent and to your liking between multiple user modifications.
Yo /hpg/ I could grab a pair of SHP9500 for 145€ off ebay right now, are these still worth it at that price?
What other options do I have in that price range?
>>55620493
>Don't bike with IEMs, son. Don't wanna see you get in an accident
This. portapros are for bicycles
>>55631257
The piano has wide bandwidth, high directivity in the upper frequencies, and a large dynamic range. A huge problem for any recording professional to capture, but is usually more doable for digital encoding.
Dynamic range is less a factor than high slew signaling and transients, which breaks lossy audio most often.
Percussion (cymbals, castanets, hi-hats) is a problem, sharp high frequency transients. String and wind instruments less so.
Pop music will usually be more demanding than chamber pieces.
>We aren't even getting into auditory masking which can further screw up your critical listneing experience.
This is the critical aspect of compression, and how lossy coding can shave off so much data while retaining the sound well enough.
Lossy coding will make use of time/frequency masking to its fullest; transform the waveform into the frequency domain, examine the spectra, and adjust bit resolution within in a given frequency band, based on loud signals taking precedence over weaker signal slightly higher up in the range.
The encoder will try to adjust how it take discrete transforms around transients and the like based around the psycho-acoustic model it is built around.
>>55631913
The SuperResonator Mod was procedurally tested and measured to kill the 6Khz treble peak with no other FR changes during it's creation and was then independently verified afterwards to do the same thing by Tyll who also put it up against both the stock HD800 and the HD800S as a benchmark which it performed favorable (which makes sense since that's all the HD800S is plus some added bass harmonic distortion to make them a bit warmer).
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/hd800-french-mod-aka-superdupont-resonator.1147/
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/sennheiser-hd-800-s-tweaked-and-delightfuland-french-diy-response-page-2#M6K0WxwKop0uABkC.97
>>55619906
>Motherboard
>Output
>Ohms
Don't waste your money.
