What do you use, /g/?
Template
Want to learn Python. am newfag
too fucking lazy for template
work: R, powershell, sql
general purpose: python
hobby: f#, javascript
want to learn: c, golang, c#
work: >
general purpose: C
hobby: C x86 Asm
want to learn: avr asm
>>55613530
go learn it, it's easy.
>work
general purpose: Haskell
hobby: Haskell, Lua (Minetest)
want to learn: Mercury, Rust
Lazy, wanting to learn C++, but I'm an idiot so I'll probably not finish
>work
java
>want to learn
ocaml
clojure
>>55613593
>wanting to learn C++
what, like as a hobby?
who wants to learn C++?
Learn C or learn a proper OOP language instead of the mutant that is C++
so far i've messed with some PHP, C# and client side JavaScript.
i want to learn Python and its frameworks so that i never have to use ASP.NET/C#; git gud at PHP and then maybe even pick up back-end JS.
hobby? C & JS.
>Work
PHP, Javascript
>General purpose
Perl
>Hobby
C, ASM
>Want to learn
Go, Rust, C#
>>55613625
And what is a "proper" OOP language? I always end up in pic-related thus I've concluded that if OOP is about classes, then such are too strict to model change in requeriments.
There is a prototype-based OOP lang and other actor models, but I don't really know what are those about. Can you tell me about your choices?
>>55613505
work:
general purpose: haskell
hobby: haskell
want to learn: C, Rust, Clojure
>>55613671
>And what is a "proper" OOP language?
idk D I guess
>>55613671
C# and java are "proper" OOP languages as nothing can exist outside a class.
>>55613625
I started feeling useless so I thought about learning something... Yep. stupid idk
>>55613671
C++ is fine. He probably means C#/Java unless he's a purist, then he means something like smalltalk.
>>55613698
>work
JavaScript, python
>General purpose
Python
>Want to learn
C, PHP and C++
I wish RAII existed in C ;~;
The compiler would just add a jmp statement to a destructor just before the stack frame is erased
It would be so good
>>55613820
So use C++ then you dumb nigger. Nobody is making you use OOP in C++. Just write it as you would a normal C program but use C++ features when you need
>>55613820
You mean this syntax isn't acceptable?int safe_alloc(int num_bytes, int (*func_impl)(void*, void*), void* data_struct) {
void* buf = malloc(num_bytes);
int success = func_impl(buf, data_struct);
free(buf);
return success;
}
>>55613505
>general purpose
haskell
>hobby
haskell, c
>want to learn
lisp
>>55613725
i know that feel. the problem is the way you're thinking about it is like saying "i want to learn how to use a combi drill". or completing an art class and then having no idea or desire of what to paint next. instead you should be thinking about what the final product would be. then you'll find tools/languages that best suit what you're trying to create, instead of going for a stab in the dark with a random, ugly language for no apparent reason.
>>55613932
what if I want to return a struct and have the destructor be run when it goes out of scope?
>>55613928
binary executable size is to big to fit on my PIC
>>55613958
I started with C++ and turned out fine.
Although if I had to start from the very beginning now, I'd choose python or C# or something instead.
>>55613505
Work: JavaScript, SQL, PHP, python
Hobby: Javascript
general purpose: Javascript
I fucking love Javascript, best programming language there is. no other language can compete
>>55613975
The body of func_impl is that scope you want the struct to be alive for. Although my suggestion was meant to be satirical. C does not lend itself well to gratuitous heap using.
>>55614016
>===
>>55614029
A lot of languages have ===
>>55614016
>Javascript, best programming language there is
guaranteed replies
>>55614034
name a good one
>>55614036
Javascript is nice in that it has a monopoly on its (rather large) niche, meaning a lot of combined effort goes to making it better and better. Despite all this, some things are beyond redemption.
>>55614018
all ISO needs to do is implement the __attribute__(((cleanup))) from gcc
they already implemented plenty of gcc extensions into the standard, why not the most useful one?
>>55614050
>>55614036
>>55614034
>>55614029
The true value in a programming language is the manpower being dumped into it on a daily basis.
In this regard, JS is quite strong. That can definitely be enough of a reason in certain circumstances, but not all.
>>55614046
C#
inb4:
>C#
>Good
Pick one
It's a well designed language
>work
Matlab, c++
>general purpose
Python, perl
>hobby
C++
>want to learn
Rust, go, JavaScript
Wish I had more time
>>55613505
>Work
C++ with a dash of C# if I need to. And I work with an actually good codebase (except for one legacy part, but even then it smells only because the guy behind it really, really liked inheritance), so everything's fine.
>General purpose
Python, Bbash
>Hobby
Haskell, Racket, C
>Want to learn
Rust, Perl, Common Lisp
>>55613505
Work: R, matlab, sql
General purpose: nodejs (because npm), ruby.
Hobby: C#, C, python
Want to learn: F#, lisp.
>>55613719
>dont learn c++
>learn java
funny
>>55614078
Also want to learn golang, is it worthy, /g/?
>>55614079
I would never recommend learning java, but it is an example of a "true" OOP language.
>>55613796
what are you all doing where you've never been exposed to c? C is one of the first languages you learn.
Also PHP is really fucking simple. you pretty much know it already.
>>55614016
>(you)
Work: tcl, PowerShell, bash
General purpose: Lua
Hobby: C, x86 assembly, Lua
Want to learn: Rust
>>55614111
take it easy gramps, we all know we won't be as good as you because C wasn't our first language. let us play catch up in shame, okay?
>>55614118
what language has an anus for a logo
>>55614165
walmartscript
>>55613505
Work: VB, C#, javascript and ruby
General purpose: python/java
hobby: python/java
want to learn: C++/C
what the hell happened for the past 2 hours? /r9k/ and /m/ were down and i couldnt post anywhere
Work: Java
General Purpose: Bash
Hobby: Groovy/Kotlin
Want to learn: C++/Rust
>>55614221
Why do you want learn php?
>>55614221
Some boards went down. /pol/ and /int/ are still down for me.
>>55614258
resume points :^)
>>55614291
they're up for me now but i really want to know what happened
Work, general purpose, hobby: C++, C#, Python
Want to learn: Scala, Rust
I know but don't use: Java
>>55613505
>work
Java, JavaScript
>general purpose:
Python, Scala
>Hobby
Elm, Elixir, Scala, C, Java, Haskell, TypeScript
>Want to learn
Kotlin, Rust
>>55614079
C++ is a meme
>>55614097
no
>>55614313
Hiroshima broke something during installing another botnet on 4chan server as usual.
>>55614481
>Kotlin
Does it actually have any purpose outside of writing Intellij plugins?
>Work
Delphi, C#, Javascript, SQL, HTML+CSS, Lua
>General purpose
Python, Bash
>Hobby
C
>Want to learn
Golang, Rust, ASM, C++, Scheme
I'll probably start doing hobby stuff in Golang very soon.
>>55613505
work: Java, R
fun: C
doing something quickly: Python
>>55614106
Java isn't true OOP, if you want true OOP you should use Smalltalk or Eiffel.
Work: C#, TypeScript
General purpose: C#, C
Hobby: Haskell, C, C#
Want to learn: Rust, Clojure, Golang, Elixir, Scala
>>55613550
Learn arm asm, AVR is on the way out.
The rest of you should be using C and scheme and occasionally ksh for everything like I do.
>>55613958
this
Learning/Studying: C#, JS, HTML, CSS, Java, Python, TSQL, Swift.
Want to learn (After I get a good grasp of the above): R, C++, maybe GoLang, maybe Ruby, Maybe PHP (I started a site in PHP but I really don't like it at all, I migth go back later on.) MATLAB.
>>55615484
You aren't doing all that at the same time right? It would be much easier just to learn one language since when you know how to program then it's just a question about learning syntax.
>Hobby - general purpose
Python
>Work
HTML/CSS, Javascript, PHP, SQL
>Want to learn
Go, maybe
There you do familia. I know a couple of others like C, PHP and Scala but I neer use them so...
>>55615618
According to me Haskell is really fun to program with.
Some people straight out hate it for some reason.
>>55614079
>when I grow up I want to make videogames!! XDXD
>t. xXx1337PussyWr3ckerxXx
>>55615653
no language you could possibly decide to learn will feel worse than what you know
VisualBasic is truly the best entry point for programming.
Work: C, /bin/sh, perl
general purpose: Ruby
hobby: common lisp
want2learn: haskell, erlang
>>55613671
I'd say Ruby is the best case of a "proper" OOP language, after all, it is heavily inspired by Smalltalk
>>55615653
I'm sorry
Would like to learn python. Tried. But I guess I don't know how to be pythonic in knowing why I can't pass a variable by reference like normal.
Like seriously spent a half hour until I decided to say Fuck this and make it global...and that didn't even fix it!
work:
php
C#
SQL
General purpose:
C
Python
Hobby:
Python
>>55613505
I know it's weird, but i really like Javascript and think it's the best language. I want to learn Objective C so i could make desktop applications (node-webkit is not ok)
work : r, mathematica, julia/python
general : python
hobby : c, lisp
want : some asm for the sake of it, lua and c#, but I'll probably never go around them
What's so good about Elixir?
Work: Python, JavaScript
General purpose: Python
Hobby: C
Want to learn: C# Go
>work
C, Go, Tcl
>general purpose
Go
>occasional prototyping
Python, Tcl
>calculator
Python
>>55613505
study: c, plike
, Mano's machine (assembly)
>>55617416
programmer gurls
>>55617416
A ruby-like functional language on top of Erlang.
It's really great for building web applications.
OCaml is fucking shit guys
>>55618132
Tell that to Airbus, I'm sure they'll agree. :^)
I use Java. Scala and Kotlin are ten thousand times better but I mainly write plugins for the Sponge Project, and fuck including a 5mb runtime with a 3kb jar (especially when Ore's upload limit is 6mb).
>>55618199
also lua for tabletop simulator mods.
and apl for the sole purpose of fucking around.
>work
Java, groovy, sql
>general purpose
Python I guess. I'm not sure there is such a thing as general purpose programming
>hobby
Scala, Rust
>want to learn
Elm
>Template needed for this
>Work
Java, Perl, bash
>General Purpose
Ruby, Perl
>Hobby
Rust, C
>Want to Learn
C#/mono
>>55614165
probably fuckin' php
>>55618242
> no such thing as general purpose programming
https;//spongepowered.org
>>55618252
i thought php's logo was just 'php'
Python.
Becasue I use it to solve boring problems in my life and idgaf about efficiency when I'm just punching tables of design data into a script and having it export beam designs for building control.
>>55618284
the filter won't let me post it, but search 'php fractal of bad design'.
>>55618286
learn apl ffs
>Work (Study)
PajeetLang
>General Purpose
(((ELisp)))
>Hobby
Python, Ruby, (((ELisp)))
>Want to learn
Haskell, C++, Rust
>>55618321
>Apl
nah senpai
My web hosted python apps can be used anywhere on the globe by anyone who wants to use them.
>>55618381
and apl does what you were doing in six hundred lines in about twenty characters.*puts on sunglasses*
>>55618436
>
wut
Work: Java
General Purpose: JavaScript (until my lazy ass learns Python)
Hobby: Lua
Want to learn: C#
>>55618436
I assume the first one refers to Java, since Java is 'greater than' all other programming languages.
>>55613505
Work
=========
Ruby (+ Ruby on Rails)
JavaScript (+ Angular)
HTML and SCSS
(our markup is awful and I try not to touch it though)
Occasional Python
General Purpose
===============
Ruby I guess
Hobby
================
I don't
Want to learn
==============
Go, Swift, or Elixir
Kinda want to learn C/C++ just
because I haven't used it since college
Maybe Java...
Just want the liberty to avoid Ruby's nonsense
once I become a better developer...
>>55618321
>php fractal of bad design
>2012
>>55618445
it's the meme arrow
>>55618474
> still fucking relevant
>>55618484
No, it's not.
>>55618578
Yes, it is.
>>55618443
>*puts on sunglasses*
Hello Re.d.dit
Back the fuck off ?!
Come on me bro
>>55614764
>AVR is on the way out
lol no
>>55613505
>work
Java
>hobby
C
>Want to learn
Maybe Scala but really idgaf.
>>55618612
i just realized i am old
when people say 'c-hashtag' in order to sound utterly retarded and no longer say 'c-pound'
>>55618598
"no"
>>55618648
Scala is the best language in existence.
>>55618663
Well. Here in the UK the pound sign is £
So Americans always sound retarded regardless.
>>55613505
Work: JS
General Purpose: JS
Hobby: JS
Want to Learn: JS
When I was in school: C++, Java, Ocaml, Haskell, Scala, Python, and JS
>>55618612
literally me
>>55618663
I agree. Even the use of "Hash" makes no sense. What are we calculating MD5 sums here? lol
>>55618677
Is it really that nice?
>>55618677
What can i do with it? I hear it's like java which is why it interests me.
>>55613505
work : C++, java, javascript
general purpose: Java, bash scripting
Hobby : prolog
want to learn: nothing make my own.
Work: C
General purpose: awk
Hobby: C, lisp
Want to learn: ML, improve at assembly. Want to try apl or improve at prolog.
>>55618732
Neat, what do you do with it?
>>55618730
Scala is similar to Java (it's a JVM language, after all) but it's about ten million times better. I can't describe it. Just try it out.
>>55618676"yes\n"
>>55614258
Php is great for websites, why not learn it?
>hobby
Python
HTML5
CSS3
>want to learn
C
C#
C++
Java
>>55618958
because it's FUCKING STUPID
>>55618969
Only without MySQL
>>55618989
and HIV is fine... without AIDS.
Work: C, C++, Game Maker: Studio
Hobby: C, C++, Game Maker: Studio
>>55618994
My life is fine... without you
>>55618722
No. It's shit.
>>55613530
>>55613530
Start with codecademy. After do learn python the hard way. Then do python challenges. Don't do 50 exercises a day you'll burn out and stop within a week
>>55619395
>code academy
shit
>the hard way
also shit
Unless you're a monkey who learns by typing things repeatedly, Coursera/EDX courses are far far superior.
why do people here like haskell so much?
>>55619509
because people here like wasting time
>>55619458
It helps people learn syntax which could be used for pivoting into other languages. Yeah it's fucking annoying. But it works
>>55619509
haskell is fun
>>55619458
This.
Codeacademy and other similar shit are horrendous ways to start learning coding.
You only need some videotutorials and make something, let's say a game. While you're making the game you'll learn fuck load more than full sessions on Codeacademy.
>>55619617
not having variables seems retarded tho
work: command prompt
general purpose: javascript
hobby: bash
want to learn: java
>>55619509
'tism
>>55619509
It's a unique way to solve problems.
>>55613505
work is java js php html sql hadoop
general purpose is same as work
hobby is no
want to learn is no
>>55619683
You can still name values, you just can't change them. Mutation is a tool, so its absence isn't retarded as long as it's easy to go without them. Intermediate values can be named without mutationblah = let x = 5
y = x + 6
in y + 2
and the changing of values in a loop can be done with tail recursion, like you would in a lisp:loop 0 x = x
loop n x = loop (n - 1) (x + n)
nsum n = loop n 0
>>55619823
Holy hell, a live pajeet
>>55619833
huh. it just seemed so weird and different from conventional languages that i didn't bother too much with it. thanks for explaining senpai
>>55613505
>Work
N/A
>General Purpose and Hobby
Python, C
>Want to learn
C++
>>55619823
Lol, you're one of those people works in IT solely for the money.
>>55613505
Arch
>>55614192
Fuckin kek
my hobby is learning several dialects of Lisp with focus on the academic angle and not superficial syntax learning
>>55613505
>Work:
C
Python
R
>General purpose
Python
C++
JavaScript
>Hobby
Arduino Process and sometimes C for Atmel microprocessors, plus some VHDL stuff for my DE2
>Want to learn
Clojure (or some other Lisp dialect), Haskell, Scala, Eiffel, D, Ada
>Work
whole year without a job
>General Purpose
C
Ruby
>Hobby
C
Ruby
>Want to learn
Haskell
>>55613671
OOP is about objects as independent "machines" communicating by message passing.
>>55622075
Which in theory works better. But it depends on what you're doing
>Work
Java, C
>General Purpose
Java, Rust, bash
>Hobby
Rust, Java
>Want to Learn
go, something functional (haskell maybe?), additional meme languages for recreational purposes
>work
I'm a pharmacist not a codemonkey
>general purpose
Common Lisp, Clojure, Emacs Lisp
>hobby
Racket, Chicken, C++, Golang
>want to learn
Erlang
work: php, typescript, reactjs, wordpress, mysql
general purpose: this one seems useless
hobby: Rethink NoSQL, react-native, nativescript
want to learn: react-native, nativescript
I do everything in Perl these days. I don't care anymore
>>55614016
if(typeof varr === 'undefined' || !(varr)) {console.log(lol);}
>Work
C#, SQL
>General purpose
C#, Java, C, C++
>Hobby
R, HTML, CSS
>Want to learn
Javascript (just because it's everywhere), Ruby or Python
>>55613625
>Not learning C++
>Going on the job market
>Handing out resumes that do not specify you know C++
good luck NEET
>Work
Scala, Java, Javascript
>General purpose
Scala / Python
>Hobby
Scala
>Want to learn
Rust
Golang
I'm glad scala is getting some more interest. For everyone who wants to learn Scala, someone at work sent this to me recently.
https://www.scala-exercises.org/
It gives you a nice language overview without going to deep into functional programming theory.
>>55622536
No. It doesn't work "better" or "worse". It serves specific purposes. Coding a multiple-windows GUI applications, a game or anything remotely complicated that requires having multiple instances of things without OOP today is pretty much insane. But coding software that does heavy processing like compression, image/vector/3D processing or that kind of shit using OOP constructs is liable to waste fucktons of processing cycles. But OOP takes a lot of place in the market today because, naturally, the former is more prevalent. It may seem useless to you when you're coding CLI applications but there's a whole world out there with different objectives.
>>55620163
arch is not a programming language. nothing prompted this shitpost. remove this
>Work
C
>General Purpose
C
>Hobby
C
>Want to Learn
C
It is what it is.
>>55613505
inb4 pajeet
>>55622917
Of course not. Arch users aren't codemonkey plebs, binary or bust.
I had to really think about what to put under "to learn"
>>55623411
This guy fucks.
>>55613505
>Work
Scala, Python, JS
>General purpose
Scala, python, js
>Hobby
I don't program for hobby :<
>Want to learn
Rust, Elm-lang, Idris
Just Python. There's still a lot about Python that I haven't even applied yet. I know some of the basics of C/C++ but I'm not a very good programmer.
>>55623473
Get better then!
>>55614481
>Haskell
If you already know scala, you know that haskell is extremely overrated. Why do you have haskell and scala in the same list
>>55623494
I'm trying.
>Haskell
literally, LITERALLY, L I T E R A L L Y reddit
>>55623802
What's so bad about reddit that can't also be said about 4chan?
>>55623828
/u/spez doesn't even try to hide is debauchery
at least whoever the new admin is of 4chan he isn't on every "news" website talking about how he loves to sell user data and native advertise
>>55613505
Work: Cobol
General purpose: c#
Hobby: java/c#
Want to learn: R, ML.
>>55613505
>work
Python
>general purpose
Python
>hobby
Java, Haskell, Python, C, Prolog
>want to learn
Sepples, D
>>>>>}}> Work <{{<<<<<
General Purpose: Python
Hobby: Python
Want to learn: Python
>Slow interpreters or meme hipster languages
>General Purpose
>>55613505
> work
ABAP, OpenSQL, javascript
> hobby
Prolog
>>55624803
Sometimes development speed is more valuable than processing speed.
>>55613533
Are you a data scientist? Is it fun? How is the job prospect and salary?
Now I'm taking coursera machine learning class, still learning NN and stuff
>>55613625
C++ is actually better for safe and robust code compared to Java and C#. But you have to go through templates, strict typing and stuff
>>55625970
maybe you meant "most times?"
Work: JavaScript, PHP
General Purpose: JavaScript, Python
Hobby: JavaScript, Python
Want to learn: Go
Lately been digging deep into the full stack JavaScript world. With the addition of React and ES2017 async/await, it's surprisingly pleasant so far.
>>55617339
Learn Swift dammit.
>>55614314
>>55623411
Coolest combinations so far..
>>55613505
work: javascript, scala
home: go, elm, haskell, scheme
learning: c
>>55626296
>I work from that obscure coffee shop combinations
>>55626204
Ha. Gay.
>>55613505
> Work
C++
> General purpose
Python
> Hobby
None (I go outside)
> Want to learn
Rust, D, C#.
