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Someone really rich and influential starts building a Linux desktop distribution that doesn't suck. Maybe Elon Musk gets fed up with systemd or Red Hat goes into rehab and stops doing heroin or something.
Whoever it is, they want to make Linux stop sucking. They want to make it so much better than Windows, people would have no choice but to switch. They want to build a reliable, simple to administer and uber-secure system that can be used by both normies and Unix-beards.
What would a distribution like that look like, and what would they have to do - what major systemic problems would they have to fix, and how - if they were to build it?
They need to have VIDEOGAMES
>>55592848
Linux already has the only game that matters.
What is Android?
>>55592830
>>55593009
Definitely not a desktop Linux distro.
>>55593049
Definitely a Linux distro
>>55592848
>>55592830
>Whoever it is, they want to make Linux stop sucking. They want to make it so much better than Windows, people would have no choice but to switch. They want to build a reliable, simple to administer and uber-secure system that can be used by both normies and Unix-beards.
This is what the industry tried to do with systemd. People don't like to recognize this, but in many cases normie usability and neckbeard utility are opposed concepts. Every aspect of simplicity for one group adds complexity and opaque magic for the other.
>>55592830
>Whoever it is, they want to make Linux stop sucking. They want to make it so much better than Windows, people would have no choice but to switch. They want to build a reliable, simple to administer and uber-secure system that can be used by both normies and Unix-beards.
This is exactly why there are 99999 Linux distros and not a single one works. The only difference is that now there would be 100000.
>>55592830
You would need to start from the ground up and charge for it, so not likely
>>55592975
>ESEA is not supported by Linux.
>he plays games un-semiprofessionally like a scrub
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>55593375
go home poettering, you're drunk
>>55593516
I hate systemd, bro. ;) Was arguing against it.
>>55593375
So, which one is systemd? Normie usability? Normies don't administer Linux systems.
>>55593493
xkcd_comic_about_standards.tiff.exe.MANIFEST
>>55593524
yeah my bad, you hit the nail on the head
>>55592830
> Somebody rich makes a good Linux De
They did
It's called OSx
>>55592830
I think you highlight something really interesting here.
If a company start their own distro and invest a LOT (billions ?) into it. They make the greatest distro of all time, the greatest desktop manager of all time, etc. Well, they invested so they need to make money out of that money.
What are their options ?
Their only options are to include publicity and shitware directly into their distro.
TL;DR; OP dreams will never be a reality because money needs money.
>>55593535
technically not Linux, but this
>>55593525
>So, which one is systemd? Normie usability?
Yup.
>Normies don't administer Linux systems.
They do use Ubuntu, though. Many have day jobs as sysadmins or database admins, too.
>>55592830
Google already did that with Android.
>>55593535
OSX is like Linux Auchwitz, they just need to loosen their white knuckled grasp on their precious ecosystem a little
>>55593626
This is also coming from a person whole mostly uses OSX
>>55592830
It probably wouldn't be Unix-like at that point.
THEYLL NEED TO START WITH THE LOGO
t. /g/
>>55592975
>only game that matters
>>55592830
>what major systemic problems would they have to fix
UI for one. Every Linux DE looks like shit unless you spend hours on tweaking it.
Thats is pretty doable though.
A bigger issue would be more professional and popular software running natively, I don't see how they could do that san paying devs for ports.
>>55593009
A fragmentized mess nobody cares about that does one step forwards and two back for years now. Also it got nothing to do with desktop.
>>55593375
OSX shows that you can easy mix simplicity and complexity. Normies won't even notice how much you can do with it, so they don't get scared.
>>55593681
>Also it got nothing to do with desktop
Why do you keep holding back THE FUTURE?
>>55593696
None of the apps is even comparable to the actual programs.
Besides, didn't that project fail already?
>>55592830
it would look like ubuntu because that's what mark shuttleworth did in 2004
>>55593710
Except Ubuntu is a neglected piece of shit now.
>>55593704
>didn't that project fail already
Its on a few retail products, but ChromeOS support for Android apps is rolling out so its pretty much dead like any other OS that directly competes with Android.
>>55592830
Get rid of proprietary drivers, or at least force companies to support linux drivers better. This is the single biggest thing standing in the way of linux taking over the world right now.
Also open firmware would be nice.
>>55593681
Cinnamon looks great out the box, as does enlightenment. Some distros make xfce extremely pretty, in fact most wms have a glittery distro.
>>55592830
>What would a distribution like that look like, and what would they have to do - what major systemic problems would they have to fix, and how - if they were to build it?
Create a version of Wine that does not suck.
>>55593681
>>55593823
The problem with DEs isn't that they look like shit. That's easy to solve. The problem is that when you pry apart the facade, what's inside also looks like shit.
Both Gnome and GTK 3 are utter disasters. The Gnome team is comprised of utter cocks like Allan Day and McCann who get off on removing functionality and don't give a shit about users or application devs. Seeing as Gnome is the official Red Hat funded, Canonical supported, systemd-dependent de facto standard Linux desktop environment, the future doesn't look particularly bright.
Every other desktop environment is either "Gnome, but with more X" or "Gnome, 10 years ago, with no corporate support". KDE has been a shoddily written, constantly crashing piece of shit for what, 8 years now? And just because one of you mentioned it, Enlightenment's EFL toolkit is so unfathomably awful in every way the whole project should probably be torched.
>>55593823
>Cinnamon
Way too much wasted space, weird looking font (can't pinpoint what but something looks very wrong with it) and dull icons. Feels like a mix out of older OSX and Windows.
>enlightenment
Never used it but from screens, it does at least look somewhat unique. Not that that's a positive thing per se.
>xfce
I really want to like it but it has many of the basic problems with silly wasted space and enormous bars. Something like Xubuntu isn't ugly per se but just not very appealing either.
>>55594022
>removing functionality and don't give a shit about users or application devs
Care to elaborate? I am a pretty casual "let's just try this or that" user when it comes to Linux, so have no idea about the stuff under the surface. At least on the visual level Gnome does more things right, and having some kind of a corporate supported standard sounds rather like a positive thing.
>>55593824
Wine doesn't suck though, it's just not meant to be an end-user tool. Tools like PlayOnLinux kinda suck, but Wineskin for OS X is a great front-end
>>55593512
>esea
>semiprofessional
wew lad
>>55592830
Like gentoo except with the possibility at least of binary packages
Also decent drivers
>>55594887
So, Arch Linux then? It has you install individual packages in much the same matter as Gentoo Linux, but it uses binary packages instead of source code.
>>55593512
hows that full kernel access by shady ass people going for ya? fucking idiots still using esea... go pay for your condo on your fucking own lpkane. fucking piece of shit
>>55594957
A properly maintained and stable archlinux using openrc and once again properly maintaining it like gentoo, yeah.
