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>>55547185
ima be a fag and repost
>Budget
$1000
>Location
US
>Source
macbook air
>Preferred type of headphone
circumaural
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
idc
>Preferred tonal balance
flat maybe as long as the high end isnt headache inducing
>Past headphones
hd600 - maybe could have more bass?
seems kind of dry and boring when i play non classical music like pop or rap
currently looking at LCD-2/HD800 since it went down in price after HD800S
>>55590680
odac on the way, I'm going to send it back if There's no difference between it and my sabre dac, which is what i'm expecting to happen.
Are all those guys on head fi etc actually insane?, surely there's something to dacs besides a clean quiet source. They can't all be THAT fucking mad surely. Anyone here have a dac that improved their listening experience beyond the e10k dac or usb dacs etc?
>>55590879
Confirmation bias and placebo effect are strong and feel very much real. People hear differences when there actually are none.
>>55590998
Conversely, confirmation bias can also make people hear no difference if they're expecting there to be no difference.,
>Budget
~100 CND
>Location
Canada
>Source
3.5mm
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Prefer comfortable but will settle for less comfortable for increase in sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Budget probably restricts this, but would like V-Shaped
>Past headphones
Just some bad 20$ Sennheiser headphones and whatever came free with my phone. Desktop have had Corsair Vengeance 1500 (wired) and current pair is Sennheiser Game One.
>>55590879
It would be good to know if you find any audible differences. I'm using my HD 600 with a FiiO E10 and sometimes I get paranoid.
>>55591054
How is the DAC1 with the HD800s?
I have it myself and have used it with the K701s and HE-400s. I like it with the HE-400s, but K701s feel a tad bright.
>>55591132
Sennheiser Game One is way more expensive than 100 CND. Why are you willing to pay less for new headphones? Don't you like them?
>>55591151
How could a DAC change the frequency response?
>>55591196
>>55591217
Ah, the DAC does not.
DAC1 leaves the frequency response completely unchanged as far as I am aware.
Which is why I was wondering about the HD800s. They are rumored, like the K701s, to have a somewhat bright frequency response.
>>55591151
It';s the DAC2 and they still have some brightness in the treble, or at least give that impression due to the upper midrange recession but are somewhat warm too.
I sold my Valhalla 2 which sounded so similar to the HPA2 and the 'difference's were hardly positive enough to justify keeping it around. Something you'd have to actively listen for to even get anything out of and that is tiresome.
What do you scrubs think about the Monoprice 8323s?
>>55591054
True. Just goes to show how poor tools our senses are. Double blinded tests are the only ones without massive inherent bias.
>>55591300
So interesting that you mention the Valhalla!
I just got the Lyr 2, myself. I brought my full setup to the shop to test this, which was WASAPI > F2k > DAC1 > Lyr 2 > HE-400 / K701
The difference between DAC1 and Lyr 2 was amazingly small! However I enjoyed the minor differences enough to splurge. I'm not sure if I would really recommend getting an amp to go with the DAC1, it is mostly unnoticeable.
>>55591351
I could have sworn that was the Beyerdynamic guy.
>>55591388
The inconvenience of not having the switching socket on the Valhalla 2 and only having RCA preouts also contributed to it.
>>55591305
A headphone with poor earpads made for those who would not spare money for headphones. Faces comptetion from other cheap headphones with poor earpads.
>>55590697
HD800 isn't the first rec for someone who is averse to treble peaks. EQ is always an option, so are destructive mods.
LCD2 doesn't have bass extension issues a la HD600, but I don't know if it the "more bass" you are asking for. Much reduced level from 2-7 kHz compared to HD600. Comfort of the LCD2 would likely come up short vs. HD800.
>>55591138
lol I will definitely report back next friday. My brother has the e10k and it sounds exactly the same as my hifimediy sabre dac (which is cheaper than the e10k but it's plastic and has no volume control etc)
I bought my 'cheap' dac in the first place along with my o2 amp because I was under the impression that the dac just needs to kill on board noise and the o2 combo was very expensive at the time. I eventually caved in and bought an odac to see why so many people bought the o2 amp+dac combo and expensive dacs in general.
I'll test it extensively and i'll let you know. I think we both have a brilliant 'end game' setup but maybe, just maybe the odac will add something, anything. We'll find out lad.
>Budget
70$
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Phone, Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Will be wearing alot, so comfort is important.
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
Rock zircone: Too bassy.
ED3: Can't seem too get a good seal with these, plus I don't like the cable.
Havi b3 pro-1: Really enjoyed these, unfortunately they broke.
>>55591674
Also, good isolation is a huge plus.
>>55590697
>>55591611
the HD600s aren't really bad in the treble but I tried a friends momentum in ears and every time I heard a cymbal it was way out of proportion
those also had the worst sibilance ive heard from an audio product
>>55591611
>A headphone with poor earpads made for those who would not spare money for headphones. Faces comptetion from other cheap headphones with poor earpads.
Sounds exactly what I'm looking for, thanks
Is there a difference between Musicbee and Foobar? Why is Foobar the more popular one?
>>55591151
I used to glorify the DAC1 but it gets clobbered by the newer stuff.
>>55592073
What's the name of that material you have your amp on m8?, I used to have a sheet of it years ago and i'd like some more to rest my headphones on when they're not sitting on the rest.
>>55592093
looks like rugliner
>>55592073
I will not deny that.
Still, I think it works perfectly as a DAC and with an external amp it is all I ever could want.
However, I am interested in how the newer units outshine it. Do you have any examples?
>>55592093
Rug or shelf liner.
>>55592114
The HDVD800 that I have, Audio-gd and the Vioelectric stuff came to mind. At least these are what I have personal experience with.
>>55591263
>bright frequency response
try resonance that cant just be eq'd
>>55592169
Are you thinking of K701s, or 800s?
>>55592110
>>55592125
Thanks guys, seems like it's called shelf liner in the UK
>>55591895
>Why is Foobar the more popular one?
autism
same reason why ppl """like"""" mpv better
>>55590680
Hey OP, the inequity sign is !=, not =!
Have a nice day
>>55591895
Foobar2000 is very customizable and with the addonds and plugins it's full of features.
>>55592205
Not really comparable.
That Tricky Ricky OP image though
>>55592233
I trust you.
>>55592605
I try.
Why aren't these and the V6 the official /g/ headphones?
>high bang for buck value
>durable, will last decades
>autism aesthetic to match thinkpad and casio watch
![51wvalUiVFL._SL1000_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Vvg0EHi.jpg "51wvalUiVFL._SL1000_[1].jpg")
>Budget
70-120 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
SMSL M2 DAC if I ever get it to not suck ass.
>Preferred type of headphone
Looking for IEMS
>Open or closed
IEMS
>Comfort level
Would like something that doesn't stick out
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or Bassy
>Past headphones
ETYMOTIC
My Etymotic are just about to die and I'd like to get something with a removable cable.
Looking at either Shure SE215s, AT ATH-IM50s or MEE audio M6 pros.
Any comments?
>>55592806
They don't seem to be very comfortable. Also, they are said to be "bright".
>>55592073
How so? It's a fucking transparent DAC.
>>55592981
Anything but SE215.
Are the Bose QC35 worth it or are the 25 enough? I'm interested in the Noise Cancellation mainly of course.
>>55593326
I'm curious. Why are you interested in noise cancellation when noise isolation is effectively the same and doesn't require batteries or microphones?
>>55592806
Because they sound shit compared to actual good headphones
I've had a pair of Shure SE215 for about two years now, and the inside of the cables seem to have corroded to the point that sometimes the earphones lose connection. Should I bother buying a new, horribly overpriced headphone, or just switch to something else?
I really like their sound quality, and I find their form factor is perfect.
>>55592149
>The HDVD800 that I have, Audio-gd and the Vioelectric stuff
those are all terrible
>>55591165
I bought them at a time when I had a job, but I don't anymore and my current headphones are breaking. 100$ is the best I can do at the moment :(
God tier headphones coming through. Unrivalled comfiness and sound. Plus Bluetooth so no more stupid cords
>>55590680
>Budget
£300
>Location
UK
>Source
PC: Mobo is Gigabyte Z96 G1 Gaming which has Creative 3D onboard (in-built) sound card which is better than Realtek (usual shit tier onboard sound) and no issues after all driver updates for sound card.
Had Gigabyte G1 Sniper previous which had the same onboard sound card and was okay.
Had better sound with my dad's Asus Xonar Essence STX II when fitted to my PC, I really want my own a lot or may be an external amp, not decided yet.
>Preferred type of headphone
Lack knowledge for exact other than my trial and error so far.
>Open or closed
Not sure, over ear certainly.
In ear not worthy quality (seen cheap outperform pricy ear pieces too many times).
>Comfort level
Worn leather (takes time, never immediate) or suede (almost always immediate).
>Preferred tonal balance
Mostly flat but equalizer settings for either rock or classic usually are good (generally stick with flat).
>Past headphones
Corsair 1500 7.1 headphones.
USB port only (no audio jack connections).
Shit tier sound quality overall but reliable and cheap.
7.1 just about works or barely noticeable.
Solid build surprisingly after long use, immediate comfort and passed on to my sister and her BF.
Plantronics GameCon Commander 7.1
Over priced, sound shit tier but better than previous headset, 7.1 works but sound such an appalling quality.
Only works fine through it's USB external sound card (makes onboard sound pointless) and have noise distortion issues with onboard sound when used through audio jack ports.
Build is more solid than previous headset and leather wore in well and became comfortable eventually (solid leather is a known negative for this headset).
>Current headphone.
AKG K702 which has been surprisingly better overall on almost all fronts.
Sound is much better and has worked well with external microphone (Antlion audio) so far.
Quality a little less than both previous but good for price. Gaymin headphones suck shit.
posting again for any more suggestions, thank you to those who suggested sennheiser 558, cal and xpt100:
>Budget
i'd like to spend less than 100usd
>Location
usa
>Source
computer or phone, no amp
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
doesn't make too much of a difference, but i would prefer as little leakage as possible (2 roommates in school)
>Comfort level
maximum
>Preferred tonal balance
ideally something flat enough that i could use it for music production, but it's not my highest priority
>Past headphones
currently using sony mdr-xb500's. they're decently comfy, although the pleather earcups get sweaty/uncomfortable after many hours. sound quality isn't bad
usual listening is lots of techno, jazz, and stuff like beach house
This is for a friend
>Budget
80€
>Location
Ireland
>Source
IPhone / laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Reasonably comfy, new pads isnt out of the question
>Preferred tonal balance
Errr reasonably neutral, although something V shaped is fine
>Past headphones
The cheap sonys everyone has
Hes a big pop fan (sort of getting into rock) and listens to alot of Chvrchs, Foals, Grimes and the 1975 so keep that in mind
I have 3 choices as my firstcheap headphone
Sennheiser HD461i
Sennheiser HD 439
Sennheiser HD 215-II
which one is the best choice out of these
>>55594129
Looking at Takstar pro 80s or Sony MDR 7506s, just a second opinion would be very helpful
>>55594153
bump
>>55593266
>Anything but SE215.
Whats the problem with the SE215s?
Is the teac ud-301 a good amp/dac?
>>55593725
>Unrivalled sound
>sounds like farts
>Bluetooth is a positive
>God tier
>>55590680
which headphones does the bully use?
>>55593725
the bose bluetooth headphones had better reviews so i got them instead
>>55593326
Wireless feature or not. That's about it.
>>55591743
HD600 and 800 are two very different models.
Senn in-ears retain few of the characteristic of the headphone line, for better or for worse. From a brief listen, I only vaguely recall peaks on Momentum, it was offset by an impression of a general downward slope and distinct lack of midrange energy.
>>55594469
Different poster.
It's really bass heavy, particularly to the subbass.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but any in-ear can put out an absurd amount of bass and is in fact the most common signature. It's also a lot more bass than what most people would want.
It's nice because it checks a lot of features that people ask for: replaceable cables (MMCX connectors), high isolation, easy fit, and so on. Less so on sound.
>Budget
$200
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop,TV,consoles
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
does this mean weather sounds leave headphones for others to hear? if so closed because porn
>Comfort level
comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
anything that is good upgrade from what i currently have
>Past headphones
turtle beach x12's with dolby sound processor that supposedly converted to 7.1 channel
>other thoughts
I bought my turtlebeaches at bestbuy with an exchange play i can keep reusing, so i will return these and trade from something better. I want to know if it's worth utilizing the dolby dss processor with future headphones, i like to believe optical audio is better. Must be from bestbuy store since i get infinite warranty
>>55595641
>closed for porn
You're really going to spend $200 on headphones for porn? Get out.
>>55595729
im not sure if youre stupid or not
he enjoys watching porn and he is scared that when he is not using his headphones for music and rather for porn if they were open others would be able to hear it
>>55595795
Headphones for porn is stupid fucking idea anyways
If I REALLY had to choose, I'd go for open and keep them in low volume so the sound porn is in the background so I'm aware what is happening
With closed headphones anyone can sneak up behind you without you even noticing.
what do these thing do?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fine-Tune-Sound-Foam-Disks-Ear-Pads-For-AKG-K701-K702-Q701-Q702-K601-Headphones-/
>Designed to enhance the fidelity of your audio by cushioning the vibrations between your ear and the headset, providing more vibrant sounds.
>>55590697
ether?
>>55591305
shit. the th-02 is way better for half the price, even if it still need new pads as well.
>>55591674
meelectronics m6 pro? I have heard it's less bassy than the m6 but still bass boosted. it isolates very well. etymotic is the only IEM that isolates well without bass boost but it does it through triple flange deep insertion so you might not like that.
Looking to get a Dual RCA female to 3.5mm female cord. Are they all more or less the same?
>>55597222
Looks like normal damping material that people would use in mods.
>>55597293
Just get Hosa cables from amazon.
>>55595228
The drivers use some cIEMs but I have no idea about the model. In the pits many have QC25/QC35.
Why do I keep seeing radio djs with these shitty Apple ear buds, is there some benefit to them I don't know about?
Also recommendations for radio studio headphones
>>55593845
with that budget you're pretty much stuck with sidegrades. hd600, dt880, PM3. not much with real leather pads at that price. best best would be a used mad dog/ alpha dog.
>>55594092
you've already been told the most comfortable in your range
>>55594171
>>55594129
xpt100, though it's a bit more
>>55594153
439 is best iirc
>>55595641
dt770
>>55590680
Is that Daniel Ricciardo
>>55597507
Yes.
>>55597433
Why not use them? It's not like you need something fancy for radio. You often see DT770, DT250, M50 and MDR-V6/7506 in radio. Some use the HD-25 and its variations too.
>>55597341
it doesn't look as thick, just looks like average foam. also damping goes in the cups normally, right?
>>55597689
It's probably like the Ether 1.1 foam where you put it over the driver behind the pad.
>>55597683
>It's not like you need something fancy for radio
I guess but if it was your job you'd think you would want something a little higher quality than a $3 ear bud or at least something more comfortable.
>>55597812
yeah that's what I was thinking. might buy it but the vague chink description and possibly no instructions put me off.
>>55597830
Is she a guest or someone working there full time? She probably doesn't want to ruin her hair with headphones and can use those buds on all devices. EarPods aren't uncomfortable... at least not for me.
>Budget
Up to 2000€
>Location
Europe
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sizef
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
I need comfy cans
>Preferred tonal balance
As neutral as possible
>Past headphones
Currently have DT-880 600 ohms, with O2 + ODAC combo. Love them, would also like to know if I should change my amp/dac combo if I go for better headphones.
>>55598066
hd 800 s
>>55598068
No. Do not buy this memeshit.
>>55598098
fuck off poorfag there is not a single headphone on the planet that is more comfortable.
>>55598098
haha "memeshit" that's so fucking clever!
>>55598116
>>55598104
How do you shills justify your 1600 purchase with that cheapass plastic?
>>55598066
Ether and yeah, the HD800S.
Overall, the HD600 is still more neutral than the both of them.
>>55598145
Audeze build quality is as shit as Hifiman's.
![main600x0_p17lpnrs7n1lrvbbffhnaotrjhe[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pI6Xm7p.jpg "main600x0_p17lpnrs7n1lrvbbffhnaotrjhe[1].jpg")
>>55598145
plastic is used in stealth bombers
cheap wood is not
>>55598149
Build quality and sound quality are both much better than the 800s.
so I did the hd414 pad mod on my portapro, and it's damn good. basically takes away the upper bass and lower mid bloat, but retains the bassy impact and rise, just restrains it to below 200hz for the most part. it's significantly less dark too, more elevated upper mids and treble. sounds like the ksc75 now, but without the slightly grainy treble.
I have the pads on the stock way, like the hd414, some people cut a hole and then reverse it. people also combine that with the kramer mod (holes drilled into the plastic retainer thing over the driver. both expose the driver more to your ear which increases the highs. but imo highs are good enough like this, any more and they would get sibilant and/or harsh imo. I think most of the sound changes simply come from more distance to the ear, from thicker foam.
comfort is also great now. it was ok before with good placement but these pads eliminate the problem of irritating the out ear flesh/lobes after a while.
>>55598165
>comparing bright to dark signature
>what is preference
![img_0212[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PYE9YHg.jpg "img_0212[1].jpg")
snapdeze
>>55598165
post a single photo of a broken hd800. protip: you can't.
inb4 photo of the one hd800 that was purposely taken apart for modding purposes, don't even try that one.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m8Zmlgk.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>55598181
>people actually pay more than $20 for this junk
holy shit i can find things in the dollar store with more structural integrity.
>>55598145
>audeze still using useless wood meme that ruins build quality.
>still haven't updated their line with a proper suspension strap design
>people now split on fazor vs non-fazor, which adds even more weight.
>still overpriced compared to the newest hd800, ether, even hifiman is better now
they need to get their shit together.
>>55598208
they still don't know how to get even pad thickness or align fazors properly. they must be hand assembled by a blind man.
true american quality.
>>55598162
>>55598181
>>55598194
>>55598208
Have fun replacing cables every month.
>>55598223
I would have though my alpha pads would have gotten kind of fucked up by now but they're as good as day one. best non-velour pads I've ever used.
>>55598234
>custom cables
nice try cuck
>>55598066
beyerdynamic Tesla T1
>>55590680
who is the guy in OPs pic?
>>55590680
My AKG K702's just got here today. I love them so much. Did I make the best choice for the price point though guys?
>>55598257
Beyer is a nonstarter in the highend market.
>>55598257
Tesla is memespeak for just fuck my ears up
>>55598268
compare to some other stuff you have? I love my q701 so much just makes me want to jump on the k702.
>>55598278
>>55598307
Whats wrong with Beyer?
>>55598388
nearly every headphone they make has a pretty prominent treble spike.
>>55590680
he's gonna get bullied by amd amx.
>>55598388
Nothing, in the low price points.
In higher price points, though, they slap the shitty Tesla onto everything to stay relevant in the market and make "revisions" to them by adding a detachable cable (which should have been there in the first place) and jack the price an extra few $100. All of the Tesla's are unlistenable with their crazy treble peaks.
>>55598263
see >>55597507
>>55598434
dumb frogposter
Saw XB500 in local flea market for 40€. Used obv. The headband is torn apart but cushions are still good. Sounds good but lacks bass in comparison to xb950.
Should i?
>>55598149
>>>55598066 (You)
>Ether and yeah, the HD800S.
>Overall, the HD600 is still more neutral than the both of them.
Didn't heard about the Ether, what are the differences with the HD800 ?
>>55598149
how can you even recommend the ether with the amount of bullshit dan spouts, the stolen technology and the fact that he releases an unfinished prototype as a headphone then has 2 revisions of the headphone within a year of the first being released, the second of which making the value of the first plummet.
he's such a slimy guy it makes me vomit.
>>55598668
Flatter subbass and upper mids with slightly recessed treble as compared to HD800S.
>>55598708
It measures well and that's good enough for me.
>>55598307
In every sense of the word, yeah basickly
>>55598761
>>>55598668 (You)
>Flatter subbass and upper mids with slightly recessed treble as compared to HD800S.
Thank you. Wich one is the comfiest ? And a last thing, should I stick to the O2/ODAC or should I buy something else ?
>>55598866
I find the HD800S comfier because it has more space in the cup and is lighter but the Ether is still very comfortable. O2/ODAC is more than competent enough.
anyone here tried LCD-X together with LCD-2 or HD600?
i like the idea that the X are easier to drive but are they worth the extra $500?
currently not running an amp so maybe the difference that i'd have to pay for an amp to power LCD-2 might be considered
>>55598599
>lacks bass
how much of a nigger are you seriously? all the xb series have too much fucking bass. and it's not even good bass, like the sz series. beats before their time. if you want lots of bass that's actually good get a fostex.
Are there any good alternatives to the HD800s? I'm not a fan of light plastic.
>>55598708
so you're just buttmad about the guy and some anecdotal head-fi drama bullshit?
>>55598982
Dt880
>>55598908
Thank you again, Will think about it again and try to document myself further to make my choice.
>>55599122
The best thing you can do is try them out for yourself if possible. Recommendations can only go so far due to personal taste.
Is this a subwoofer?
>Budget
150€
>Location
Spain.
>Source
I want a DAC/AMP that can also control a microphone too, so I'd like to have a recommendation.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
I wears glasses, so maybe after some use I'll get some pain at the back of my ears.
I'll game a lot with them, but I usually listen music while playing games, so I want a really good sound quality. I've read that I could just get a HyperX Cloud I since they have a good quality (or just get the original ones since these are an aftermark iirc).
Should I get these and then a 100€ DAC/AMP?
>>55591635
My dac arrived !. I was expecting it next week.
I'll test it and report back later ;)
>>55599169
Yup, figured that, wasn't intending to spend that much without hearing them anyway, I just have to find a place where I can try them.
FLAC Internet radio:mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac
Currently playing flac jap crap
>>55597987
She is actually a guest in this picture but I only chose it because it was the only picture I could find were you clearly see the EarPods in a radio studio setting. I do see actual DJs/hosts with a lot.
I didn't really consider the hair thing though
>Finally found a good deal on new in open box HD800(non-S)s @ Ebay Store that I've been saving up for
>Excited to finally get my first real pair of proper headphones and anxiously await for them to ship
>Finally arrive yesterday
>When I go to plug them in, realize the audio jack is too small for the cable plug
>Find out my motherboard's RCA Line-out is 3.5mm and the HD800's cable is 6.5mm
>Make a trip to Walmart to pickup an female-to-male adapter
>Of course they don't have any
>Go back home and order one off Monoprice for $3
>Shipping ETA Next Week sometime
>Meantime I own nothing they fit to play them with
Please laugh at me for being retarded /g/ while I cradle my $800 paperweight. It at least is just as comfortable as the legends say.
>>55590680
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>>55598434
Incorrect.
>>55600445
I shall grant your wish
>>55598968
>anyone here tried LCD-X together with LCD-2 or HD600?
You mean HD 800?
What would you like to know?
LCDX, in the United States at least, costs 700 more than the LCD2, which starts at 1000 new.
"Easy to drive" as commonly stated is an ambiguous term. Does it refer to high sensitivity, or low current requirements? Does it have to be a resistive load or carefully impedance matched? Sensitivity and low current needs are not mutually inclusive, you see.
LCDX and Ether can cause portable devices to clip near max, while the LCD2 would not do that. The current draw:voltage ratio is higher on the LCDX than LCD2.
Current versions of the LCD2 are nearly as sensitive as the LCDX anyway. In reality, LCD collection is not necessarily that loud sounding given the plunge they usually take between 2-10kHz.
All those headphones could be said to have a potential comfort problem.
HD600 has a moderate amount of clamp to it from the tight headband. HD800 pads and earcups are much larger, and the headband has minimal clamp included, not that it needs it. The headband padding is slightly thin, but that has nothing on most Audezes, and is probably the most comfortable.
The LCD pads (leather or microfiber) are very large, but you have to deal with the cups distributing some force at your ears. The headband would be more likely to give you issues, given the high mass of the Audezes.
I don't like to sit still listening to music, so the Audezes give me another problem not often mentioned. Moving your head gives the cups momentum, so they can spring on your head if you move too much.
>budget
200 AUD
>location
kangaroo
>source
tomato
>preferred type of headphone
closed
>comfort level
hyper super comfort 100%
>preferred tonal balance
would you talk to your mother that way?
>past headphones
shure srh840
>>55598968
>>55600942
Even if the FR is the most important part of sound quality, I've always found the obsessive focus on sound signature amusing, since electronic and digital EQ is always the more precise tuning solution. I don't care for spending money on what amounts to a few sliders on an EQ, and a lot of headphones amount to just that.
Sensitivity and FR are the same thing, so let's go into that anyway.
LCD headphones, as mentioned previously, take a plunge in the upper midrange and treble. They are not at all rolled off, contrary to some abuses of the term. LCD headphone usually have increasing emphasis from 10khz and up. Even though Audeze advertises high sensitivity on most of the LCD collection, the ear is sensitive to the upper-mid and treble range that LCDs lack, which can lead you to think otherwise.
Bass extension isn't obviously much better than the better moving coil designs (barring a large catalogue of <20Hz music), but what they are more notable for is the lack of midbass boost that coil drivers in open sets tend to have.
LCDX has a slightly spikier treble than the 2, IME. However, Audeze's consistency may not always be there, and they have made discreet changes to the models before.
HD800 is more V-shaped than people credit it for. People tend to pick on the treble peak, but it's recessed between 1-4kHz, with a very broad and wide boost centered around 100-150Hz. If you pulled out the peak, it would be a dull sounding headphone. The sensitivity of HD800 is measured in the dip, so the peak can be louder than it might read on paper.
HD600 is the flattest of these headphones and has the most presence and energy from 2-5 kHz. The 4-5kHz can be overemphasized, but it usually has a dip a bit above that. Has a bit of midbass, with a more distinct bass roll off. This leads it to have a fair amount of reduced level at 20Hz.
If you do EQ, which you should, and are willing to spend the 1k or more, don't get the HD600.
>>55599186
It doesn't look much the part, aside from what could be a really bad example of a bandpass sub. I'm not inclined to think that, but I'm not sure what make and model that is either.
>>55598982
Personally don't see any issue in plastics, it's a good thing that it uses them in the structure. It's not like I think the HD800S is worthwhile either, but-
There are many other headphones with similar signatures and other headphones at a similar price range. What are you looking for?
>>55598268
It's good if you like it and continue to like it. Don't worry about anything else.
>>55598977
Not sure of the reading of your comment. Quite a few SZ headphones are not bass boosted, nor are they good quality bass.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/warren-tenbrooks-summary-head-measurements-harman#iGxEjLjHtOYSQbXS.97
How close are we to finally getting the proper neutral compensation curve for headphones? Will the manufacturers listen when it is finally published?
I bought a pair of Samsung headphones (pic) and the remote stopped working a week or two after. I had it replaced and after a month the pause button on the replacement started not registering too.
Are Samsung headphones just crap quality or am I unlucky with my units?
How long does it take for clamping to get loose enough on a pair of open cans?
I just got the Takstar TS-671 yesterday and these things, these things won't let me chow on anything. I have a feeling they'd be really comfortable without the fucking clamping on my jaw.
>>55601451
>How close are we to finally getting the proper neutral compensation curve for headphones?
What the theories rely on inherently is a model of audio cognition and signal processing. The observed and varying subjective discrepancy of a flat transfer function and neutral subjective response leads to all sorts of conjecture on how the brain hears. The research into perception has many key questions unanswered, even if it seems like a lot of work has been undertaken already.
I find this reminiscent of the tale of the blind men and an elephant, and some excerpts from the journals of neuroscience would probably be useful.
>Will the manufacturers listen when it is finally published?
It doesn't matter if you aren't lazy, so I don't care. The people this most affects are the people least likely to read up on the subject material and less likely to care.
>>55601870
Depends on headband material.
Stretch the headphone over something wide and leave it there when not being used. Alternatively, you can try forcing the headband to bend at the center point, but this has more risk of weakening the headband.
>>55601950
I'll be doing that. I don't doubt that it will get loose at some point but it is quite hard right now.
>>55601241
Anon you rock you make my nose bleed. What do you think of HD600 vs the HD650? Seeing that you have a very technical approach on the matter.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superlux-HD668B-Headphones/dp/B003JOETX8/
Are these headphones good for the price? For just listening to music and normal stereo gaming
>>55600445
Instead of wasting time getting an adapter, you should have spent your time finding a suitable amp/DAC for them.
What's the point of getting a HD800 when the HD600 exists?
Has anyone here used the Noble Tridents/Noble 3c/u? I've heard they're a bit hot on the treble, and are sibilant, is this true?
I have $50 to spend at Best Buy. Are the MDRXB450's good? What are the best on ear headphones for $50 I can get?
>>55599333
So i've tested the o2 dac vs my sabre dac and I have to say that it actually does sound better. I was expecting it to sound the same and I would have sent it back but i'm keeping it.
The difference is hard to notice on a lot of songs but it's there, and it's not in my head because I want it to be better. It generally sounds cleaner and the vocals sound more accurate/lifelike . The soundstage might even be a tiny bit wider, or maybe it's just that now the distant sound effects are more noticeable.
The o2 combo and the hd600's are my 'end game'. I'm hoping to use this setup for the next ten years at least. Loving it.
>>55602751
Ha, I soldered my O2 together and it works fine, but I was wondering if I should spend the $100 to buy an ODAC for an all in one unit. I'll probably do it eventually.
>>55602439
The comfort alone is worth the upgrade desu.
I need over ear headphones for less than 500 dollars. I was thinking of getting beats but are they bad?
>>55603030
you mean solder the odac board inside your o2 amp?. i'd do it if I was you.
I'll have to live with the 'o stack' lel since I bought the amp first, ah well it looks good to me.
>>55602169
They're similar headphones.
HD650 has a more robust cable that terminates into 6.3 mm by default. HD 600 has thinner cable terminated in an 3.5 mm. IIRC both sets come with adapters.
Fit, distortion, leak, etc. are generally similar otherwise.
HD650 has more bass than the 600 and less bass roll off. It reduces the treble level a bit, such the peaking around 4 kHz. Sensitivity/FR is similar overall.
These make the balance smoother and easier to listen to, but the added upper bass/low midrange can leave it sounding hazy and lacking clarity, an example of what detractors call the Sennheiser veil.
Contrary to what you might hear, the HD 600/650/800 is not an exceedingly difficult load. Sensitivity is not particularly high, but the impedance is high enough to be easy on current and minimize impedance interactions. This makes an easy load If your device can generate enough voltage for loudness. You can even plug these into a phone and go*.
For example, most iPhones do 1 volt, and you get roughly 103 dB SPL across the frequency range with the 600/650, give or take a few dB. The HTC M8/M9/10 models are similar, whereas most other devices are weaker, excluding the very irregular LG V10.
Anything else?
*The obvious caveat being how loud you want to listen and what you listen to. Using EQ means more voltage is needed.
>>55603277
Well, I bought the parts for the O2 amp and soldered it together. I can also solder the ODAC in my O2 because I was planning to do that, but I didnt feel like buying an ODAC. I'll do it eventually.
>>55603373
I see, If you're using onboard you should definitely get the odac m8.
Which headphone should I buy for 130 euros or less?
I'm going to buy in the Netherlands and it will be a birthday gift for my little brother. He really likes my HD 598, but it's out of my scope and I can't pay more than the 130 I'm planning.
>Budget
£50
>Location
UK
>Source
Computer, realtek audio
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible, I have big ears and my current headphones are really painful after long periods
>Past headphones
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ozone-Gaming-Spark-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003F0RYZ6/
Good quality but they were kind of small, I just want my new headphones to have the same quality or higher sound
>>55602439
I've got both. The HD800 gets 90% of my head time since I mostly watch animu and play vidya. It's comfier and roomier. The HD600 is used for music though, the HD800 is pretty terrible with music. I'm not exaggerating, the HD800 makes music sound muddy and bright at the same time, it sounds really bad.
>>55599223
bump here friends yes
>>55603057
> 700€ for a subjective comfort upgrade
Your mother must give you a huge allowance.
>>55599957
Thanks a lot for this man
>>55603709
> HD800
> terrible at music
>>55603710
The Cloud is a safe choice, don't know any commonly recommended DACs with mics. But Asus has a few USB models with microphone input.
>>55603763
It is, it really is. I wanted to like it like everyone else but it's straight up shit at music. The FR speaks for itself.
The HD600 is technically the superior product but the HD800's comfort is what makes them my main headphone.
>>55603785
You could try to EQ it and make it sound better though.
>>55603861
I'm autistic, if I start EQing it, I won't finish.
>>55603769
I found out that the sound blaster e5 has something to plug the mic. Would it be enought to power the mic and my headphones? Also, is HyperX Cloud I still the best gaymen rig? Maybe I'll end getting any other 150€ or less headphones since I already have a good mic.
>>55603882
open-type headphones are considered better
>>55602439
You could've switched the HD 600 with plenty other headphones and asked the same thing. I picked up HD 800 over other headphones because of the comfort and performance in areas where many other headphones fall a bit short or are inconsistent/lacking such as leak and its effects. I knew I was going to use PEQ so the stock response didn't really bother me - within some limits of course where HD 800 certainly falls into. I valued the build and quality control of these headphones and the fact how thoroughly its performance is documented. I also got a killer deal for them. Even now I could basically get my money back from it when sold second hand. So far no intentions in doing so as getting them stopped my cycle of "upgrades" or sidegrades in audio and I've been happy with the pair.
That's my reason why, if you were genuinely interested.
>>55603709
That's funny, because I have both the HD558 and K702, and I think that the HD558 is better for music,but K702 is better for games and movies. Heard that both the K702 and HD800 are bright and analytic.
I sold my dt990 250ohm and dac/amp last year because I lost my job. I'm stable in life again and need new over-ear headphones.
I currently own a pair of Sony XBA-H1 and they sound almost identical to the ATH-M50s to my ears, however my friends pair of dt990 250ohm blows them away. I'm not good with the audio adjectives but the sound kind of "sparkles" out of the beyerdynamics. What is the cheapest price point that I can expect a similar experience at?
I really want the XPT100s for the removable cable and design but I'm worried about sound quality. I was also looking at the SPH9500 from philips, thinking that since they're open they may sound more similar to the dt990.
Of course, just buying the dt990 again is also an option but at that price range I feel like there may now be better options compared to back in 2013? THe Fostex T50RP MK3 for example?
What do I buy :(
>Budget
$100-$200
>Location
US
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Not too important
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, idk
>Past headphones
Panasonic RP-HJE120-K
>>55604274
The fostex t50rp's are good but me and my brother both bought them and both developed a harsh whine in one driver and we returned them. Also the earpad situation is annoying and you need to replace them.
>>55604274
Hd600's laddy
Hey /hpg/, A friend offered me a pair of Wooz detachable earcups Fidelio X2, about 1.5 years old, at USD $150.
I never bought headphones used. Is that a good idea?
What does he mean by Wooz btw?
>>55604386
I think you mean woox and as far as I know they're the ones that aren't built badly?, something like that. They're good headphones but you better like bass, a lot.
>>55604500
I like the sound of M-100 which I have. He said that this is a better choice than to go with the Sennheiser hd598, but I don't know shit.
>>55604346
Tell us more about the HJE120k, what you like and want different.
>>55604557
598 isn't a very compelling value usually, and the 518 or 558 would normally be suggested instead.
>>55604274
DT990 has more treble than quite a few other headphones. It sound more like DT770/880 than other non-Beyer models.
T50RP is really different. It's not that great.
>>55604582
I just thought since they were really cheap IEMs that buying a new pair would have superior quality. I am looking at the IE 60s which are only 150 on Amazon
>>55598761
>It measures well and that's good enough for me.
the distortion is pretty poor for an orthodynamic and you have absolutely no idea what the frequency response looks like on YOUR ears so looking at measurements is mostly a pointless endeavor.
>>55604557
I've never tried the hd598 but id put money on the x2's sounding better than them.
>>55604359
Thanks, I'll avoid them in that case. Sounds like they're more for ref listening and I'm looking for something colored anyway.
>>55604381
A bit out of the range of what I want to spend. Also dislike build quality.
>>55604582
Do you know how it compares to the tesla headphones? Pic related is $250, which is an extra $100 on what I want to spend but the tesla buzzword makes me think it's worth.
Hey guys, I use pic related and am wondering if a good DAC is worth buying.
Can anyone give me any advice?
>>55604900
DAC are memes. If you don't hear hiss or distortion on the device you're using as DAC now, there's no reason to spend money for that.
>>55603709
Time for the resonator fix.
>>55604930
There is a reason and dacs do help, although the improvement is fairly small.
what happened to the old buying guide?
it had different options for different price ranges, it was a good starting point for noobs, any one have a link to it
>>55604900
If you have nothing at least buy the fiio e10k, it's cheap for a dac but very good.
>tfw Razer Charcarias was the only headset that didn't cause my ears to sweat like the niagra falls
anyone else with this damned curse? I'm just using speakers for now but really want a pair of headphones again
I have tried Sennheiser HD 518 but it didn't help, also the sound was really flat and dull, which should not happen on such expensive headphones
could it be the velour ear muffs on the Razer headset that worked? Since the sennheiser had some synthetic shit
>>55604615
>you have absolutely no idea
>looking at measurements is mostly a pointless endeavor
Most of the frequency range of human interest is not subject to idiosyncratic pinnae resonances, so it can be generalized well.
>>55604702
I had briefly bought those out of morbid curiosity. The microfiber pads feel weird from all the wrinkles.
Less bass than most the other Beyer headphones I can think of right now (DT770/880/990/1350/T1/T5p/T90). Has the typical low mid recession.
Treble has sorts of peaks and dips, and midrange less smooth. I would consider the DT990 and T90 as better headphones, and I don't like the treble boost of the 990 and T90 have.
>tesla buzzword
More sensitivity than old non-tesla models. It does other things, but that's the most distinct effect of big magnets.
>>55605032
Guides are on the wiki.
Did you mean the infographics, the headphone pastebin, or the earphone pastebin?
>>55605156
>Most of the frequency range of human interest is not subject to idiosyncratic pinnae resonances
except the most important ones are.
>>55605125
My childhood best friend had this issue when we started playing games online. He now uses a pair of astros. I found the sound quality to be completely acceptable on them and they are obscenely comfortable.
Of course standard headphone recommendations are better but it was the only solution he found for his extremely sensitive ears.
>Budget
$50-$100
>Location
Ontario, Canada
>Source
My Asus M5A97 motherboard, sometimes a $20 First Act Guitar, occasionally a Moto E 2ND Gen
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds
>Open or closed
Earbuds
>Comfort level
I don't find my Sony MDR-EX15LP Earbuds unconformatble even when used 10+ hours a day multiple days in a row
>Preferred tonal balance
I would think neutral if all I listen to is Stoner Rock, Stoner Metal, Thrash Metal, Doom Metal, and the odd similar genre of music
>Past headphones
Multiple >$50 Sony MDR headphones, currently using a JVC HA-RX700 and Sony MDR-EX15LP for the past three years.
I plan on eventually getting an external DAC. I use Foobar2K to listen to music on my computer, which in the next few months is going to be replaced by a Thinkpad T420. I like the way to Meze 11 classic earbuds look but can't remember if they're actually shit.
>>55605260
Forgot to mention the earbuds would be completely replacing my headphones.
>>55605156
>the headphone pastebin
>>55604690
>>55604582
>>55604500
>>55604386 here. I know I am not supposed to evaluate headphones on dollar figure, but what does the Fidelio X2 compete against?
I was originally looking at an all-around that is good at 'gaymin', so I was looking at the headphones version of Sennheiser's gaming headsets. Someone said that Audio technica's stuff is good, but it lacks bass altogether.
And is $150 ok for this?
>>55605369
Forgot to add that I have the boompro mic for the M-100. He said that I don't need to buy the modmic that way cause it takes the same 3.5mm jack. Sennheiser looks as if it takes a jack as well, so I've been looking at them.
you know? i miss when people also posted albums that they listened to...... i discovered quite a few nice albums that way. in any case, i have been stuck using my v-moda crossfade lp, but i am thinking of getting a 7.1 surround headphone. toughts?
>>55605453
Isn't 7.1 just done with software? I heard that the multiple driver set up headphones are pointless.
>>55605453
I thought 7.1 surround headphones don't hold up whatsoever.
>>55590680
>Budget
100$ Flexible
>Location
Michigan, USA
>Source
Cell Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
In ear, I like the ones with the little removable rubber fitting, not the hard plastic kind.
>Open or closed
Closed, going to be using them at work in a factory so as closed as possible is best.
>Comfort level
Comfy, but don't really care.
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care, gonna be hearing machinery along with them, just need something to help with the boredom.
More info:
They need to be bluetooth, a cord going down to my pocket will get ripped through and broken on my first day using them.
Long battery life, I work 10 hour shifts and would like to just be able to charge them at home.
Sound quality, brand, comfort, and look are things I don't care about.
Thanks for any help!
>>55605389
Do you really not have any problem with the M100? If you're just wondering if better stuff if out there, don't.
>>55605672
I wouldn't suggest listening to something while operating heavy machinery, but...
>bluetooth in-ear
How does the form factor of the LG HBS-900 grab you?
DAC: Schiit modi 2
amp: schiit vali 2
current cans: hd598
I want to upgrade to either the hd 600 or 650. Which one is better for my setup?
>>55605753
650 is better than the 600.
>>55605731
I do. It gets real stuffy while using them, even after switching up to the thicker pads. They also are not very good with making me feel as if there is a wide open space.
>>55605753
what's wrong with the 598
So since when the HD600 is being hailed as the king of all headphones in /hpg/? The bass is muddy as fuck and there is a glare in the 4kHz region that gets annoying after a while.
Pic related clobbered the HD600 and is only $200 more expensive.
>>55605830
nothing really, just want an upgrade bc curious to see how much better the performance is.
>>55605831
>So since when the HD600 is being hailed as the king of all headphones in /hpg/?
since before you started posting on 4chan
>>55605731
People work with them in sometimes. Also I no longer give a fuck because the people I work around never shut the fuck up and never stop complaining. I can't stand it much longer I need my music.
Also,
>LG HBS-900
I've seen people using them around me, and while I would like something more subtle so my supervisor can't tell I've got headphones in, I've been considering trying something like this out.
How's the battery life?
>>55605369
The x2's are great for gaming and movies, at their price point in the UK at least they kind of compete with the hd600 and they lose that battle easily. If the headphones are in good condition then that's a good price.
>>55605753
Get the 600, it's fucking brilliant. The hd650 is muddy in comparison.
Listen to any 'headphone guy', they all pick the 600 over the 650 for a good reason.
>>55605831
How the fuck is the bass muddy on the hd600?, it sounds incredible you mong.
Look at the state of those headphones you posted. Fucking look at them.
>>55590680
>Budget
$150 hard cap
>Location
US
>Source
USB(onbourd has horrible hissing)
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
N/A
My headset isnt holding a charge anymore, and i'd like to get something that isnt cheap shit. I dont know if this is the place to ask about mics.But i need a mic.I would prefer a boom vs a clipon(i dont want to have to scream)
>>55605831
hd600 babbies haven't heard good headphones yet, ignore them.
>>55605672
>10 hour shifts
>comfort. . . I don't care
Wut? I was kind of blown away by "sound quality" as well but this is just retarded.
>>55605831
SR-207 is garbage, most Lambdas share a similar signature, they differ a bit, but a Lambda is still a Lambda, haven't heard the SR-207 specifically since my friend is a collector, but I've heard others.
The stock response lacks upper midrange response and the treble appears bright because of the peaky response.
They are overrated shit and they only sound good with the ED-1 DF equalizer.
>>55606361
HD 650 for comparison. Anyone with half a brain can easily see that the HD 650 is the superior headphone.
>>55606312
And what headphones do you own brother?
>>55606361
>DF
>sound good
LOL you're a memespouting idiot who hasn't heard a good headphone in his life, just live by measurements and shitposting on /hpg/ about them. never measured headphones in his life so doesn't understand the limitations behind it either. why do you bother?
>>55606389
I've heard good headphones and speakers, my friend.
Have you?
>>55606404
somebody chasing DF equalization has not heard good headphones or speakers.
>>55606415
Nice argument, memelord.
>>55606436
stick to your terrible headphones with inaccurate DF equalization and enjoy that earbleeding brightness and glare, retard.
>>55606446
Name some accurate headphones then, memelord.
>>55606361
>SR-207 is garbage
Stopped reading there.
>>55605790
Unfortunately, I don't have much to say about the X2 , and I've never noticed sweat or stuffiness build up on any of my headphones unless I happened to be sweating hard all over.
>>55605914
>HBS-900
I was actually considering getting one myself to replace another bluetooth set, I only heard one in a shop and liked it. Can't tell you too much about drain, I've never let my current set run out (I think it does 8+ hours).
As far as I can tell, real-world battery is around 12 hours or so.
>>55606462
>accurate
i love this meme, headphones are not accurate.
>>55606483
They can be depending on the target.
>>55606490
if your target is inaccurate, sure.
>>55606483
Name some non-terrible headphones by your standards then. I'll tell you why they are shit like the SR-207.
>>55606478
>muh obscure weeb headphones
>>55606494
Accuracy is dependent on the target.
>>55606500
>hd800 babby
just stop posting already, they are not good headphones. they are glary, have no bass, have high bass distortion and zero headstage.
>>55606506
no headphone can achieve treble accuracy.
>>55606512
You mean the HD600, right?
Too bad your subjective terms have no real world meaning.
>>55606527
too bad your measurements have no real world meaning because all measurements are riddled with inaccuracies and uncontrolled variables.
>>55606526
Etymotic ER-4S/B can. HD 600 is pretty decent for a full-sized up to 10kHz.
>>55606545
Back to Head-Fi, kiddo.
>>55606549
>in-ears
nice moving of goalposts, retard.
>>55594153
439 the pads are pretty decent for a cheap headphone.
>>55606526
They can but none do. Canalphones do the best here but even they are quite lacking in the highest octaves. Using multiple drivers for beam forming could possibly solve some of the worst variables.
>>55606567
why don't you make some then? why don't manufactures aim for DF-equalization anymore? because it's a dated meme that every manufactturer realized is a meme. even STAX and Sennheiser no longer bother because they are aware DF sounds like shit.
>>55606586
>meme meme meme
You're a fucking idiot, back to /r/headphones where you can fit in with the subjectivist cable risers placebo faggot crowd.
>>55606586
>why don't you make some then?
??
>why don't manufactures aim for DF-equalization anymore?
Are they aiming for anything anymore?
What is your point? I'm not arguing for DF here but it's a great target for in-ears.
>>55606615
>Are they aiming for anything anymore?
good sound. when was the last time JBL even looked at doing DF equalization? why do you think harman are investigating new target curves?
>>55606614
nice projection, retard.
>>55606637
>good sound. when was the last time JBL even looked at doing DF equalization? why do you think harman are investigating new target curves?
listeners using bass and treble knobs to create a target curve doesn't make it accurate, you see, accuracy is completely objective, the harman curves are designed with subjective preferences in mind, not to mention the music used in their testing was questionable
>>55606657
>not to mention the music used in their testing was questionable
subjective
DF is nowhere near 'objective' and your goal for objective accuracy while using headphones shows not only futility but your stupidity.
>>55606637
>good sound.
Aside from Harman's efforts it doesn't really seem like there's any consistency in product lineups to aim for whatever is a universally "good" sound. Heck a lot of Harman branded stuff is complete and utter garbage which misses their own ideal target by a mile.
>why do you think harman are investigating new target curves?
To create a better target response for headphones obviously. I just hope products follow.
The "DF equalized" HD 600 and HD 650 are one of the most accurate headphones on the Olive-Welti target aside from their sub bass octaves. The response is very flat between 100 Hz and 10 kHz.
>>55606671
the spectral balance of the music used was too bass heavy
also, DF is objective, it was made using measurements, it's even ISO standardized
you have no idea what you're talking about so I suggest you stop trying to sound informed on the matter, you'll just mislead others that are reading the thread
>>55606500
How is STAX an obscure company?
>>55606719
ignore the shitposters. they spend too much time jerking off to inaccurate measurement graphs and justifying their welfare headphones.
>>55606719
brb going to best buy to buy some stax headphones
>Budget
under 300
>Location
US
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
as comfy as possible with good quality sound
>Preferred tonal balance
sound like the ath-ad700x
>Past headphones
Currently have ath-ad700x with no DAC/amp
>>55606940
how do you listen to your headphones without a dac/amp?
>>55606940
AKG K 701.
