This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
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>>55535842
>>55566350
First for Seikos.
2nd for Seikos
Reminder: This is the Holy Trinity.
>>55566756
I..its like we are brothers. I wonder what else we have in common...
>>55554833
nope leather on divers looks great in many cases
>>55566993
also I fucking hate beer snobbery but Sierra Nevada Celebration and Summerfest are nice
Going to pull the trigger on this either this week or at the end of the month, pretty surprised how hyped I am for it
>>55568129
It's pretty big to be that style and only shows the time when you press the button.
>>55568038
Yeah, I don't get the autism some people have over it. Obviously it ruins part of the functionality of the watch but if you aren't planning on going swimming/diving then it doesn't really matter.
>>55568205
40mm is the sweet spot for my wrist size, even with boxy digitals, and I'm aware of the basic functionality of the watch
>>55566756
lmaoing at that bezel alignment on the turtle
>>55568129
How much is it in burger bucks? If it's like 100-130 I'd probably be down
Do you have to use magnets to set it?
I want a box for my watches, can I get a wooden one for about €50?
One for 5/10 watches and possibly a slot for bracelets/straps would do.
If it's too cheap for a wooden one what's the best alternative?
>>55568456
There's the cheap pleather boxes that a lot of people have here.
Otherwise lots of options, ideally not chink.
>>55568483
I'm Italian, anything of quality I can get for a few bucks more? I really would prefer to avoid fake leather if possible.
>Ideally not chink
It seems like everything comes from chinkland nowadays.
>>55568565
I've seen a few burger made ones on etsy that seemed nice.
But go figure, I'm not in a position to search right now.
>>55568565
>I'm Italian
Why do you keep bringing this up in each thread?
>>55568876
Last time I checked wood and leather manufacturing are a speciality of my country, lots of leather straps for watches are made here for example, thought I might get some premium box for a "discount" price.
Why does it bother you so much?
>>55566993
>having guns out
>while drinking alcohol
And you are everything wrong with the gun violence issue. Why are Amerifats so irresponsible with guns? FFS, why do people still even own guns in non-3rd world countries.
>>55568924
>one beer
>omg you're gonna get drunk and shoot yourself or someone
go back to your safe zone, kid
>>55568995
>drinking only one beer
So you're an homosexual gun freak.
>>55569036
Lad, if I wanted to get piss-drunk, beer wouldn't be my drink of choice.
>>55566350
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>>55568565
Ahh, my Italian friend
You bullied me but I'll give you my advice
Spend as much as you can afford on the box, I wouldn't put watches worth several hundred in a cheap box. I got this bix here given to me. It was $120 Australian, but the Jeweller was a swindle. So it would probably be 50 cuck bucks over where you are
You could get one online, but I'll leave that up to you. Taxes and shieettttt
Oh, yeah my box is pretty good quality, it's actual glass, actual stained wood, no leather which is a good thing, I'd rather suede instead of pleather
Apologies if my post isn't that articulate, I'm a big rretarded at the moment
>>55569120
Why are you drinking alcohol if you don't wanna get drunk, then?
Inb4 he does it for "pleasure".
>>55569526
>You bullied me
Kek, when was that, I bully too many people.
>Spend as much as you can afford on the box, I wouldn't put watches worth several hundred in a cheap box
Yep, this was my thought as well.
€50 for a wooden box seems pretty good. I'd prefer one without the glass, though. At least now I know it's possible to get what I want for cheap, thanks.
How bad is mvmt watches really? I just bought one and it should be arriving soon, and I want to know what I'm in for. Has anybody else had any experience with mvmt watches?
>>55569554
If you never drank a tasty beer in your life, then I can't blame you for valuing it only for it's alcohol content.
>>55569700
I was joking.
Nigga I live in [spoiler]South Tyrol[/spoiler].
>>55569358
that's a weird scale
>>55569639
they're fashion watches. you're paying all of the money for the (bad) looks, because they're made as cheap as possible.
>>55569785
they're hard to read if you get the black dial, word of warning. otherwise they're ok. classic looks good with a nato.
>>55569639
>>55569811
meant for
>>55566421
>>55566455
>>55566756
>>55566993
>>55568038
>>55568076
>>55568129
>>55568205
>>55568225
>>55568284
>>55568356
>>55569358
>>55569526
There's sure a lot of technology-related discussion going on in these threads
>>55568924
>And you are everything wrong with the gun violence issue.
Mentally disturbed people with no access to mental health care and inner city blacks is whats wrong with "the gun violence issue."
Close to 90% if not more of gun deaths are from suicides and inner city homicides (black people) with illegally acquired guns.
Does that anon come off to you like either one of those cases?
Can a Tudor Pelagos be gotten with a 5,000 AUD budget? Lately I've become convinced that there is no better sporty watch in that price range
>>55569905
Have a watch movement powered by an electromagnetic tuning fork.
>>55570188
>>55570188
i'm jealous of your Accutron.
>>55570222
Thanks. I got mine for $140. If you keep your eye out you can find some good deals.
>>55568565
>I'm Italian
Who /vintageseiko/ here?
>>55570180
No idea what prices are like down under but in the US retail price is around $4,500 if I remember correctly.
Post thoughts pls
I suspect it's a renamed Traser
>>55570609
Tacticool mall ninja shit
>>55570656
Would you say the same if you hadnt read the Special Ops and Tactical words?
It's a 400$ watch
>>55570534
Hi.
>>55570180
Pretty sure any GS is better than Pelagos mate.
>>55566421
lovely. got more? which model and how much did you pay?
>>55570534
>Had the 5216 on the wrist and on the winder for 2 weeks
>Check it this morning before going to work
>Running 6 seconds slow
>After 2 weeks
Now all I need are new gaskets so I can wear it on rainy days. But it is basically the $110 chronometer.
How could such a based caliber exist
>>55571311
Im soooo jelly. I saw some on eBay but afraid to buy, is there something similar but new?
>>55570609
blegh
>>55570304
Where did you find it at if you don't mind me asking?
>>55571429
Not really.
But unless they are in the same state as my project watch, they are usually in decent shape and may just need to get lubed and regulated.
>>55570501
>wood and leather manufacturing are a speciality of my country
>>55571429
>>55571938
If you can track down a 4S15 then you've basically got a "modern" 52 caliber. But they are absolutely balls hard to find, and very expensive when you do find them. You're honestly better off just finding a 5206 in nice condition for around $150. As Jewfriend said, they usually just need a service from a competent watchmaker.
>>55570180
>Lately I've become convinced that there is no better sporty watch in that price range
Stop doing drugs.
>>55571301
I got it around a year ago for $35. I am not sure what the model is.
>>55571545
I got the Accutron on ebay. It was listed as $300 USD, but I made an offer and the seller accepted. The seller was in Canada, and the Canadian dollar was ~ $.50 USD at that time, so that probably helped.
My friend just got a gold filled accutron RR 218 for $100.
>>55570667
Not him, but I would. Try to get a deep blue T100 one used for just a little bit more or a borealis scout sniper if you really want tritium.
>>55572666
what's the diameter of the poljot?
>>55570501
Please stop associating me with that cringy individual, thanks.
>>55572684
I just measured it. It is 35.2mm without the crown and 41.8mm lug to lug.
>>55572729
thx senpai
>>55569595
I'm everybody's favourite name fag. You'll know who. Hung the boot ups on these threads. So I stopped naming
But yeah, it's perfectly possible. I'm not sure how much you are into watches but a decent watch box will literally last forever, you could give it to your kids
The glass is replaceable for pretty cheap
I'd probably bite the bullet, pay a bit extra and get one from a brick and mortar store, you could judge the quality then. Guess you'd be supporting the local economy as well
>>55570534
Eyy
>>55573264
>support the local economy
I won't give a single penny to these pieces of shit if I can avoid it. It's chinese shit anyway. Which is ridiculous when you think we're in the alps and krauts traditionally work the wood here.
I can spend a little more than €50 if it's a decent box.
>namefag
Then it wasn't bullying.
>>55573650
Eurocuck the post
r8 my 5$ chink shit
>>55573984
I'm not the one selling chines shit. Might as well buy it online for less.
>>55574017
I would be embarrassed to wear that shit even if it costed me €5.
>>55570018
>Does that anon come off to you like either one of those cases?
Playing devil's advocate but there is nothing about that post that guarantees that he isn't mentally ill.
>>55566756
what model is the far right one? i dont think ive ever been in love with a watch
>>55574045
>costed
>>55568565
>I'm Italian
>>55574171
I know, I know, it's cost.
Another one I keep getting wrong.
>>55574183
He's a fake Italian.
>>55570609
Just get a Marathon.
>>55574171
He's obviously not a native English speaker.
>>55574203
>He's a fake Italian
>duh hur he not no real nigguh like me he a fake ass nigga mane
That's what you sound like.
>>55574274
>dur hur he not no real burger like me he a spaghetti nigga mane
That's what you sound like.
>>55571282
Only poor Seiko fags who cannot afford real watched would say that. Just look at this abomination, can you honestly say that this is better than the Tudor?
>>55574417
That watch actually costs almost twice as much so I'm not sure "poor" is the right word.
>>55574417
Well first of all, Seiko didn't write an essay on the dial
>>55574417
The movement is definitely better. I wouldn't go for that style of dial and case myself though.
>>55574474
Exactly, paying that much for a quartz that looks ugly like that is pure insanity.
Ordered this, how'd I do
>>55574492
A lot of people think the pelagos looks ugly too, what's your point? Also dismissing a spring drive movement as just "quartz" is pretty disingenuous.
>>55574492
>not appreciating electromechanical movements
>>55574306
Because you are, fuck off guinea.
>>55574504
You did very well, it's a nice watch.
>>55574504
you're a poorfag
get a fucking job
>>55574683
I do have a job nigger, but I'm not gonna spend lots of emone just to look at the time.
What color watch goes well with a navy suit and a white or light blue shirt?
I currently wear a Citizen with a grey metal body, a black dial and a black plastic strap. It has served me well but it's time to move on.
>>55574733
White or grey dial. Black is universal.
For cheap but dressy watches that look good with suits, look at some of the Seiko LM models on ebay. King Quartz also applicable.
>>55574504
I'm pretty sure I just got my colleague to buy one of these after he noticed my watch and we talked about watches a bit.
>IV
I only noticed it today. I checked the Raketa catalogs and every roman numeral watch they made had "IV", up until around 1980 when the old roman numeral models disappeared from the catalogs and replaced by new designs with the common "IIII".
Seriously, no diversification here. It is all fucking Seiko automatics, Seiko 5s, Grand Seikos.
I got some ideas for some good watches for you all.
Beautiful dress watches in the same price range include Orient Bambino and Orient Symphony, beautiful finishes and a rotor that works 5x better than the rotor on the Seiko 5's.
Tissot Automatics, one of the cheapest brands you can get with an ETA movement in it, that is Swiss made.
Even unique watches, like the Atomic Citizens, the Bulova Accutron w/ Tuning Forks, the Bulova Precisionists (which are phenomenally accurate and sweep fluidly), and Citizen perpetual calendars.
Hell, I would even try some watches with Sea-Gull movements in it, they are less than $100 and are pretty durable and accurate, like Parnis'. And also some great German watches out there like Zeppelin.
These are all within the below $500 price tag... generally, sometimes a bit over. Needless to say, Seiko does have some reliable movements for pretty cheap, but I don`t understand the hysteria over a good Orient or even Citizen automatic using a Miyota, or some of the interesting Bulovas out there. I find the power reserves on my Orients and Miyota automatics last way longer than Seiko 5's, and you get a diversified look whether going with Citizen or Orient. Not to say that the Seiko 5 is bad at all, it is a good watch for the money, just hasn't impressed me to the exception placed on it aesthetically or mechanically.
>>55575209
is this copypasta? You're moaning about seeing too many seikos but then you suggest babby's-first-watch-collection tier brands?
>>55575209
The reason Seiko 5's are so widely recommended, is because there are literally thousands of different styles, so there is something for everyone's taste, at a low price tag.
Grand Seikos I find are iffy, there are some hideous models, like the diver pictured earlier in this thread, then we have the Anon with the Highbeat 36000. Which is beautiful. If people are spending that kind of money, they're looking around for something they really like anyway, so you can hardly recommend one on the off. nor do people.
>>55574711
I like this guy.
>>55575209
>And also some great German watches out there like Zeppelin.
>great
>German
>Zeppelin
>>55574523
>implying this looks ugly
This looks better than any current Seiko divers.
>>55575209
>Seiko automatics, Seiko 5s, Grand Seikos.
Nigga if you want me to start posting my slav watches you could just ask.
But this literally is newfag/retard tier post, since there is usually some variance in these threads. A.E some are more Seiko focused while some can be Swiss meme discussions but threads go where threads go.
(newer) Tissot is shit and the lower to mid end Orient's are mostly based on the same 1970's Seiko 7005 movement. Bulova precisionists are not that interesting as the older tuning fork models and the inhouse automatics from the 60's and 70's (Plus they are posted almost every thread. Rest of that shit you're spewed isn't even worth addressing.
Lurk more and think before posting.
>>55575536
That's just sad. The regular black bay is so much better looking than this.
WOW! Why didn't anyone tell me this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDoreRD_gs
Citizen red arrows edition. Was a present, not really a watch guy but it was pricey so I wear it.
>>55575710
Im also an idiot that cant take pictures.
>>55575568
>fake jewish mongols
>>55575754
What?
>>55575568
Your post is quite funny, but yeah, as I said, in my experience, I have had better quality pieces, with larger power reserves, with higher accuracy, with higher quality finishes, with a more decorated movement, with a smoother rotor, with fully functional indicators, come from a few of my Miyota 8200 and 9000 series movements. You can try and dispute this, but this was a personal account. Regarding the Orient being based on a vintage Seiko movement, I wasn't really talking about vintage Seiko movements was I? Completely irrelevant.
Please elaborate on how Tissot is a bad value for the money considering they use ETA movements at the fraction of the cost that many larger and more expensive brands do.
Now, to elaborate on your Orient point, the 7005 was originally owned by Seiko, then modified by Orient and used in their timepieces. If you had any understanding whatsoever of what my post was about, if you weren't so autistic, you would understand I wasn't Seiko bashing, I was pointing out my experience with the Seiko 5 collection vs. some other contemporary Miyotas I have.
It honestly seems like you have a very basic understanding of watches in general. I never said that the Precisionist was comparable to the Tuning Fork, as they are two completely separate movements. But there is plenty to appreciate with the Bulova Precisionists. As far as I can tell, they are the only Quartz movement to operate at that high of a Frequency, and probably the best value for your money given it has an accuracy of +/- 10 seconds a year, though it is variable. Surprisingly, Bulova is, as far as I can tell, the only company in the industry, to do it at such a rate, how is that not interesting? Do you not have a basic understanding or appreciation for watches in general? Or is your pseudo-intelligent watch talk just something to cover up your lack of understanding and said appreciation?
>>55575568
2/2
The funny thing about my post, as I will continue, was that is was all anecdotal. And I certainly don't compare Seiko 5's to Grand Seikos, I was just talking about the watches I see most in these threads, which you cannot deny is the Seiko 5's.
I can suggest some sites to you if you are interested in learning more about some of the movements I admire, and just about all movements in general. Let me know.
Btw I do like your Poljot, never owned a Russian watch before however.
>>55569358
>:O
>>55575536
The black bay is garbage, pelagos is great though.
>>55575890
>>55575924
There's no need to cock about like a faggot on a high horse.
Anyhow, i wasn't trying bash Orient's quality what so ever and i've owned both some of their newer and vintage watches in the past. However their very common 469XX series movements are basically further upgraded 7005. Albiet with a separate day pusher and a slightly more efficient winding system. Are they magically 5000 times better than a Seiko 5? Not really. Are they great value for their money? Sure. An Orient shill would be much better than a Casio shill.
As far as Tissot goes (And most lower to mid end) Swiss manufacturers are concerned, they attempt to keep the costs low by making as much of the watch&movement outside of Switzerland. The Swiss law requires that at least a certain portion of the value of watch will be produced in Switzerland, meaning that a lot of these lower end will have a lot of bits and pieces that are Chinese made at a much lower price than producing them in Swizerland. Not to say that it's necessarily all bad since it helps to keep costs low, yet the loophole is that it's all about pricing. So if 95% of the movement is produced by the chinks at 30% of the overall costs and the Swiss-done rotor engraving is 60% of the value it passes under the law.
Hell, they even started producing the Speedmaster's bracelet in chinkland.
>It honestly seems like you have a very basic understanding of watches in general.
>If he doesn't like and or appreciate the same things i do he must be an autist.
The Precisionist series are fine, but the Tuning Fork's have a much more interesting allure to them. And the SD is also somewhat of a quartz watch (Not exactly for all you autistic weebs), while having a perfectly smooth sweep.
>>55575890
>Please elaborate on how Tissot is a bad value for the money considering they use ETA movements at the fraction of the cost that many larger and more expensive brands do.
Just because a brand ebel or brietling will fleece you for some eta movement doesn't automatically make their deals good.
But if you want a brand new chronometer they are among the cheapest, with Mido.
>>55575664
You can also get it DLC or ION BOND coated to look like this. The DLC/ION BOND is very cheap if the parts come disassembled($25). The waiting period is very long however, there's also plenty of shops that will mill your seiko to look a bit different.
>>55575536
>bronze/brown
>numerals
disgusting
>>55575536
In my opinion, with numerals it needs to be all or nothing.
What's babby's first $10k watch?
Kek
>>55576631
I was being sarcastic m8.
>>55577275
babby's first? A submariner for retail. Used Calatrava
Better choices? A daytona, JLC something or other with moonphase if that's your thing, A good deal on a Royal Oak, or just buy what you fucking want, this is really just my wishlist at this point
>>55569905
Well, that is a general problem with these threads.
There are supposedly at least two professional watchmakers here but we never get to discuss the technology or even new complications.
Given the rapid advances in 3D printing, how long will it be before we can get a watch made to our own designs? OK, start with a pre-existing movement and then add layers for the complications we want.
A white faced Snoopy Speedmaster with moon phase complications would be irresistible to me. while what is on offer is no problem to resist.
Or even getting lume to design would be an enormous advance.
>>55577469
>Given the rapid advances in 3D printing, how long will it be before we can get a watch made to our own designs?
Around 100 years.
>There are supposedly at least two professional watchmakers here but we never get to discuss the technology or even new complications.
I.e. these threads belong exclusively on /fa/, not fucking /g/.
>>55570667
>It's a 400$ watch
Incredible. That crown is so far out it is asking for being damaged. Also getting tangled in whatever you get close to.
>>55577469
>how long will it be before we can get a watch made to our own designs?
I doubt 3D printed materials are durable enough for building a movement.
>add layers for the complications we want.
Complications are complicated, anon. You'd need AT LEAST proper watchmaking education and a fair grasp of the physics, engineering and mathematics involved before you could even begin to design a movement complication, let alone a complete going train. At that point you could just construct parts in the traditional ways.
t. battery monkey/Seiko 5 and slavshit repairman/future proper watchmaker anon
>>55577551
>I doubt 3D printed materials are durable enough for building a movement.
Well, first of all the stated premise was to start with a pre-existing movement, exactly to overcome that rather obvious problem.
Moreover you can now 3D print glass and metal which should be durable enough.
>Complications are complicated, anon.
In other news water is wet, the sun rises in the East and scientists are suitably baffled.
>You'd need AT LEAST proper watchmaking education and a fair grasp of the physics, engineering and mathematics involved before you could even begin to design a movement complication, let alone a complete going train. At that point you could just construct parts in the traditional ways.
The going train is excluded, for now. What I am thinking of is more along the lines of assembly of existing parts such as full date with week number. Or a calendar display.
3D printed or wooden clocks are already available, many designs are pretty impressive and elegant. So people are able to do this.
I am not looking for putting watchmakers out of work, nor do I expect that anytime soon. Rather what I am looking for is embedding those works into custom designs.
>>55577704
pls take your Reddit science somewhere else. Like Reddit.
thoughts
>>55578345
Do you even know how to use a slide rule?
>24hour faux-retrograde
>>55566350
thoughts?
>>55578921
It's a frictionfit bezel and only 100m for near SKX prices
>>55578965
That gap is going to continue to widen as the skx becomes less available though
>>55579116
The SKX is a shitty watch anyway.
200 for a shit movement when you can get a much better diver for only ~100 more.
>>55578921
Thoughts?
>>55579174
>You can get a better <Insert product> For only another 50% of the price!
Ok, so say I drop $10k on a diver, I can get a much better one for $15k by comparison.
>B-b--but, that's different!
That's your argument made reality right there.
If you are only spending $200 on a watch, it is because you do not want to, or are not comfortable spending more than that, so to add another $100 is insane at that point.
The SKX is solid, it looks good, is mod-able, and while the movement is not amazing, what more do you expect from a $200 watch?
THOUGHTS ON MY SEIKO SUMO??
>>55574711
>ever loking at the time when you're looking at the watch
No.
Can anyone recommend me a great diver that isn't Seiko? I've been looking at the Orient pro sat, Orient seems to have great value in general.
>opinions
>>55580112
Adding to that I know Orient and Seiko are 'together'.
>>55580112
Whenever they come up for sale again.
>>55575332
Yeah I completely understand what you mean, and for around and under $100, they are great watches. The entire thing about seeing all the Seiko 5's was just rhetoric, I imagined some of this to happen. But yeah I completely understand, the rest was just personal experience and recommendation. I have no problems recommending Seiko 5 if people are on that budget.
>>55576152
The 5x was an exaggeration, of course I don't know the specifics, but again, personal experience, I have had better efficiency with the Orients.
I understand the issues you have with Tissot, but imo they are good value for the money. They house good movements, in some generally well built pieces.
I understand what you are getting at though, I own a Tissot Classic Dream with a metal band, and the band is horrendously cheap feelings, scratches super easily. But there a number of Tissots aside from their cheaper models that are fantastic, such as the Tissot Le Locle, I love the guilloche design, and built substantially better than the Dream. This is not to say that I endorse every watch a brand I recommend puts out, you probably understand.
I don't think there is much I can disagree with here, you are completely right, the vintage models with the tuning fork are without a doubt more interesting than the precisionists, if I could get my hands on the Space view, I would do it in a heartbeat.
>>55576187
Lol of course, not implying that, but it shows a movements value, or the value that other brands place on it. Mido is a bit more expensive than Tissot, but much better, I would take the Mido anyday, they still use ETA as they are owned by Swatch group, but they also don't endorse much or hire sponsors, so maybe.. Jist assumingly, they can put some of that marketing money back into the production of their watches. From what I have seen and heard, they have fantastic designs, great casings, and fantastic ETA movements. And some of their line is actually COSC certified.
>>55579906
Calm down, there's no need for cap locks. I don't like the bezel insert (especially the font) but it's a nice looking dial. Do you like it? That is all that matters.
>>55575568
>>55580156
November 2016
What the actual FUCK is this.
I wait a month and a half for my shitty chinese knockoff, and this is what I get?
>>55580156
Unfucked bezel version never
>>55581300
>shitty chinese knockoff
You get what you pay for.
>>55581307
The 45 and 55 minute markers not being rectangles really isn't a bother.
>>55581331
To you maybe, but it looks pretty dumb to me because there's no fucking reason for it. Every time I look at it my eye is instantly drawn to those painful wrong markers.
>>55581349
I wouldn't call it wrong, its just their design.
>>55575357
Thanks. I'll probably be sticking around for a while
sarb035 thoughts famalam?
Taking my watch on a trip to a questionable area. Should I take it on a bracelet or multiple natos?
>>55580112
You should start looking into microbrands. I can personally recommend Halios. I've got a Delfin >>55568225 and it's fantastic. They're out of production though but both the stainless steel and bronze versions of the Tropik are still available.
Automatic Frederique Constant for $500
Model 303MC
Worth it?
>>55580553
the font looks like its from that giant wheel from price is right
>>55574733
>>55574982
This. Doesn't even need to be a dress watch. Classically styled military watches would also work (like B-uhrs/field/deck watches), as long as they have brushed or polished cases and is not too thick, and 40mm or smaller case width. With a navy suit, put brown leather straps on it. Brown and navy go together.
>>55575190
My oris has IIII, frustrates the shit out of me
So what does /wt/ think of Kisai watches?
How does this make you feel?
http://www.my-watchsite.fr/blog/vacheron-constantin-metiers-d-art-elegance-sartoriale-l-accord-parfait-entre-montre-et-costume-n1907
>>55583568
Woops, I apologize for it being sideways. Here's the correct format.
>>55577469
Not even 3d printing. ... etched wheels for movements is a thing now
reminder that quartz is a better choice for edc than mechanical (jewelry/vanity)
>>55583584
I hate all those needlessly complex let's invent a new less intuitive way to tell time type watches.
>>55583584
See this reply:
>>55583647
I second. If i cannot tell the time by a glance then i don't want it
So the King Seiko is finally back from the watchmaker. This purchase has been such a pain in the ass so far. Firstly the stem popped out when I pulled out the crown to adjust, then the day wheel got stuck, then I found out the hacking lever is missing. Those issues are finally fixed now (the stem still pops out if i pull too hard so i need to be careful). However, the watchmaker told me the hair spring is a bit roughed and he couldn't fix it, after having almost a month to do the overhaul. It's already lost 8 seconds in the 5 hours I've been wearing it. Admittedly this watchmaker isn't very experienced with vintage Seikos (he's done my ETA pieces in the past with no issue). I'm trying to decide if i should just sell it (probably at a loss) and just get a new SARB, or bring it to another watchmaker and see what they can do (probably charge me an arm and a leg). Ugh.
>>55582801
You know the answer. Natos man.
>>55583544
But that's the traditional way timepieces display 4 as a Roman numeral. It balances the dial.
Also the Romans themselves used both formats as seen here on exit 54 of the Colosseum.
sapphire or mineral, /g/? and is it worth it to pay a hundred more (279€) for an automatic mechanism?
>>55583858
Sapphire or acrylic always.
>>55583858
Sapphire crystals are the most scratch resistant but the least shatter resistant.
Acrylic crystals are the least scratch resistant but most shatter resistant.
Mineral crystals are in the middle on both.
I'm not even going to touch the automatic vs quartz thing.
>>55583931
I forgot to add that acrylic crystals are stupid easy to polish out small scratches yourself while the other two are incredibly difficult.
>>55583930
>>55583931
>>55583949
tough choice. thank you both.
>>55581349
The reason for it is that every 20 is differently marked
>>55583768
A new balance assembly is about 40$ or so, but really it's your call on this one.
Though i've heard so harrowing stories of what people went through to get their vintage GS's fixed and at times dials re-done in Japan.
>>55584177
I found a UK seller that's selling it for $20 (converting from GBP). I think the one you found is from Indonesia. $20 is cheap enough to give it a shot I guess. Another week at least for delivery. I purchased the watch early June. My enthusiasm for the meme is waning...
>>55584452
Probably doesn't ship here so i didn't see that one.
But it's worth another shot.
What do you guys think of my new watch?
What do you guys think of my new watch?
A progress pic of my megasonic from watchmakeranon. Turns out the hands not moving was nothing serious & it's been running fine now.
>>55583070
That looks great.
>$650
>plus shipping
Fuck them.
>>55584972
>>55585031
srry for the double post
>>55583573
That's amazing. Are the dials made of fabric? How long will it last?
>>55585058
It's hand guilloche and enamel work to look like fabric, not actually fabric. Which to me makes it even more impressive.
>>55585174
All that wasted space?
>>55585364
>decoration
>wasted space
>>55585502
>decoration
>on a watch
>>55585633
>[Movement / dial / case] finishing is bad!
So buy a Fineat
>>55585633
Exactly. Your point?
>>55583070
>>55580156
Other cheap divers that look this great?
>>55584972
>>55585845
>>55585845
>>55583070
What a pretty looking diver. It may be the only one I've ever liked.
>>55585970
>9 o'clock index is unaligned
Yeah, no.
>>55585981
You don't like the 50 fathoms?
>>55585845
Or you know, we could also post piggu tier divers. (Gotta take a new picture)
Also, is it just me or there really hasn't been any Orient Ray's posted in quite a long while?
>>55583573
Tacky. But then again I find all textured dials tacky.
>>55586074
one or two threads ago the degenerate brazilian posted his
>>55586258
>>55586273
Please don't post such a disgusting picture.
>>55586273
>>55586300
I don't like the snowflake.
Very fine textures like pic related are tolerable. But sadly like most Seiko watches too big.
![Vostok_Komandirskie_K-34_476613_01-600x900[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/00wzFl1.jpg "Vostok_Komandirskie_K-34_476613_01-600x900[1].jpg")
Thoughts on the new Komandirskies?
>>55586258
>I find all textured dials tacky.
What is it like having such shit taste?
![Vostok_Komandirskie_K-34_476613_02-max-900[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NuTPiKI.jpg "Vostok_Komandirskie_K-34_476613_02-max-900[1].jpg")
>>55586345
>>55586345
Old model is better.
>>55586350
Taste is sujective. Spiral patterns in sub-dials are the only ones I think I am fine with.
Everything else, guilloche dials and stuff like that looks outdated. Like something your grandparents would wear.
>>55586263
Maybe a Mako, but not a Ray.
>>55586382
Our grandparents did have better taste.
>>55583826
Holy fuck i did not know that.
Thanks anon
Early morning post
>>55586028
There is something about Seiko designs that rubs me the wrong way
>>55583768
It's pretty though.
Got something in the mail
>>55586382
How do you feel about this?
Probably the most subtle meme-y aviation reference I've seen.
>>55583768
SEIKO
AUTOMATIC
CHRONOMETER
OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED
KS
Special
HI-BEAT
[logo]
JAPAN
Looks nice though.
>>55586574
>>55586571
Very bad. This looks like something I expect to see in the shop window of a cheap watch shop at the mall.
>>55586599
>>55586616
Tolerable but it reminds me of waffles. Would not wear personally.
Just got this bad boy today
>>55586571
i would suck a dick for a Type XXII.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ny4NkywSjI
>>55586631
How about taking circular guilloche to its maximum? (slightly related I kind of like the finishing in IWCs newest calibers)
>>55586697
While the most technologically interesting Breguet or even swiss chronograph I've ever seen it's also the ugliest outside of some truly special AP abominations. Had they skipped the red accents and had less.. everything, it would've been pretty amazing.
>>55586690
Will that's unfortunate
>>55586756
It's pretty fine so it's not bad but still I feel pretty neutral to that watch overall. The lack of minute indices is personally a no-go for me.
>>55586690
Bad indeed.
Could you recommend a good internet place, where I can buy original Casio F-91W (amazon dont deliver to my country)
>>55587131
Do they not sell them in stores in whatever 3rd world country you reside in?
>>55587131
eBay mostly.
Lots of trust worthy sellers.
>>55584452
>>55583768
Where did you buy it from? If eBay you could probably argue to get some of your money back if the watch was sold as working, because the movement clearly is in very rough shape (a missing hacking lever is inexcusable). Vintage watches can be a crapshoot, which is why I am reluctant to buy them from anyone other than a few trusted eBay sellers.
It also helps to have a watchmaker who knows Seikos, because no matter how good you are on an ETA, if you've never seen an automatic Seiko in your life then you're not going to have a clue how to fix it properly.
thoughts on this tissot for 119€?
quartz. sapphire. beautiful.
Got a new strap which i don't really know how to use properlly on my bitch wrists. Don't know how to feel abuot the looks, is it too much blue?
>>55587482
Yeah it was Ebay and the seller did refund me $50 for the hacking lever. At the time I thought the other issues would be easy to fix once I have the part (my watch maker quoted me $40), so I accepted. I ended up getting an overhaul just in case, but the timekeeping still couldn't be fixed. In hindsight I should have just returned it but it's too late now.
>>55583768
I would give it a try to fix it, this is an one of a kind watch. If it doesn't work out you can always sell it.
>>55583768
Btw I did alot of effort too to get my old Pontiac Nageur running. It has an extremely modified eta 1702/03 movement which was a horror to get the Pontiac parts for, and to get it running smoothly. Now it runs about +0,5s/d.
>>55585032
Nice. Tuning forks are awesome.
>>55588530
I think it looks nice. You could get a brown leather strap for it too.
>>55588698
Hell yea nigga.
>>55588605
>>55587482
>>55584452
>>55583768
Just spoke to the second watchmaker, who happens to be an Orient official service center (among other brands but not Seiko for some reason). He straight up said the movement is too old and rare to bother finding parts for, and advised me not to bother, lol. I will wait for the $20 balance assembly to arrive and give it one last shot.
Do I like the Black Bay anymore?
>>55588237
nobody?
>>55588624
>dat curved dial
Nice.
>>55588964
In my experience, that sort of response equates to the watchmaker does not want to work on the watch in question for any number of reasons. I would keep it up. Those King Seiko special chronometers are really nice and pretty dang rare so its worth getting restored. K. Seiya of Seiya Japan fame thinks they are nicer than the equivalent Grand Seiko of the time the 56GS. I'm kind of willing to take his word for it. I had to go three other watchmakers before I found anyone willing to work on my old Grand Seiko.
>>55588237
>>55589411
Quartz is not really my thing but it looks nice and is cheap. If you like it, buy it.
You are now aware of chronographs without subdials.
>>55590090
how does it even work?
>>55590090
>>55590113
The chrono second hand and the normal second hand are just overlapped lol. Only good for <1 min timing w/o elapsed minute/hour hands?
>>55590186
I think it has a central chrono minute hand, like on the rest of the Lemania 5100/emulated 5100 watches Sinn made.
What kind of sporty strap would go with muh 7018?
>>55588964
Anyone who says the movement is too old just really doesn't want to work on it. That's what the Seiko AD in Toronto said when I brought in my 6106,and because I didn't know the CAD /wt/ watchmaker at the time, I begged them to do it, and they ended up doing a really mediocre job.
I just feel so bad hearing your legitimate 52xx chronometer is such a bag of troubles when mine >>55571311 and several others on this board are basically chronometers and are running flawlessly.
>>55590211
So it does away with the normal seconds hand. I see.
>>55590263
Yes.
>>55590090
Implying
