Seagate has to be the absolute worst HDD manufacture in electronics history.
>have several western digital drives in PC
>whenever I access my c drive, it opens instantly
>buy seagate drive
>go to access c: drive, entire OS freezes waiting for Seagate drive to wake.
>seagate...right in the trash
Not to mention, this POS company is being sued for their unusually high rate of failures.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/222267-seagate-faces-lawsuit-over-3tb-hard-drive-failure-rates
Don't waste you money on thier crap.
>>55563530
ok
>>55563571
Absolutely FUCKEN rekt
>>55563571
why would I want my HDD constantly spinning and never go to sleep. Great way to ruin a fucking drive prematurely dipshit.
I don't have to adjust that setting with western digital drives. They're smart enough to sleep, and wake only when their specifically accessed.
>>55563530
Stop gutting external HDDs to use as internal drives you cheap faggot.
>>55563530
Oh, I fucked up. I should have wrote "file explorer" instead of c: drive. duh. I'm always accessing the c drive.
>>55563626
Being this retarded. ISHYGDDT
>>55563626
What the fuck
>>55563530
>using mechanical hdds
>if you must use mechanical hdds, at least not using NAS drives with slower more reliable seek times
This.
OP.
literalest faggot in the world
>>55563530
another WD shilling thread
ebin
>>55563530
Just bought a 4tb Seagate. That backblaze survey says they have a far less failure rate than WD.
>>55563530
>Buy WD Greens
>DIsable the intellispin in firmware
>They become blues
>>55564287
you done fucked. i wouldn't trust my recycle bin on a seagate shitdrive.
never had a problem with seagate until i blasted my punched the fuck out of my laptop.
Still using my now 7-year old Seagate 7200.12. It has never gave me a day's bother.
>>55564427
I have two Seagate barracudas that have lasted six years, don't know how.
Seagate shills will defend this
>>55563626
counter argument failure
>>55563530
I bought a seagate 3tb hdd in 2011 for $89 in December which was very very cheap considering the floods just happened. passes all tests, solid drive. I guess i lucked out.
Historically seagate has been the best brand. They got bought by somebody a decade or so back and went to shit.
I still think I have a working 80GB drive
>>55563626
>Great way to ruin a fucking drive prematurely dipshit.
actually the best way to ruin a fucking drive prematurely = constant turning on and off
your birth was a mistake.
>>55564455
welp, here I go
>order WD 4TB green new, comes in a week later, install. click of death right out of the box.
>order another one from a different seller new, same fucking thing a week later.
>order two Seagate 4TB drives after three weeks of dicking with returning the WD drives, no problems after 6 months of regular use.
not so much a Seagate shill as a "this shit didn't work for me, but this shit did" shill.
>>55564455
Seagate failure rate going down, WD going up.
Yeah so? That happened to be too but I just disabled hd sleep and that was the end of it.
>>55564492
Only response with good information
Now that I know this I'll keep the drive on
>WD Red 3TB
>Run Defrag
>can't even finish analyzing before 4TB Seagate finishes defrag
I've had my share of drive failures from both OEMs. Probably shouldn't have used Red for a non-NAS drive though.
Seagate 2TB Desktop Gaming SSHD(Solid State Hybrid Drive) SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive (ST2000DX001) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EIQTKAS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jpTHxbPV4R1G9
Can anyone support this purchase
>>55564455
Because of this graph I ordered a 4TB HGST.
>Not a single problem
>>55563530
>he lets his HDD sleep
Great, you save power but the motor that drives the platters will blow out in a year because of the constant stop\starts.
>c: drive
I'm sorry... what?
>>55563530
>Seagate has to be the absolute worst HDD manufacture in electronics history.
some anon never used samsung hdds
>>55564825
You do realize that this is possibly the worst metric to measure right? It is not analyzing the platters, it is analyzing the files on the platters. It looks how fragmented each file is, soooo if you have one with movies and one with pictures it is going to take a fucking long time to analyze a million pictures vs 1000 movies.
>buy segate 2 tb in late 2010 or early 2011 for gaming rig
>hook up drive after most of build is together
>not detected at all
>try all six SATA ports on mobo
>nothing
>figure its a dead drive
>before RMA give to my uncle who works in IT to try it on another computer
>its detected so he formats it for me
>hook it up to PC
>works fine
>0 issues since then
Still don't know why it did that.
>>55565030
Sounds like you're just retarded
>gaming rig
yup, confirmed
Seagate's are fine. At least their 1 & 2 TB models. Have 2x1TB in my main machine as work space and local backup.
Have a 2TB in my file server as the network backup for all my other machines on the network.
Also have 2x4TB Toshiba drives. X300 series. They were $110 brand new when everyone else was $190+. They house my movies and music to share over the network and have zero issue since their purchase. Several TB written to them already.
>>55565079
What would you have done oh wise master of computers?
>>55565260
Detected in BIOS at all? Yes? Then its in the OS somewhere. Went into computer management, selected the disk, initialized it and formatted it. Or diskpart\fdisk if I needed too. No? Is it spinning? Yes? Try another cable until it is seen in BIOS. No? Try another power cable until it does spin.
>implying not detected at all isn't retard speak for ITS NOT POPPING UP WHAT DO?!??!
>>55565317
nigga it didn't even spin up when I hooked it up
>>55565317
It's obvious his stupid lazy goymer ass didn't know how to detect, initialize and format a fresh drive out of the box.
>>55563530
seagate is life cunt
>>55565334
>nigga it didn't even spin up when I hooked it up
Then you did not plug in the power cable properly, or the shitty molex to sata adapter you were using was not connected properly. Computers aren't magic. Its all voltages. You don't have any or enough voltage, shit don't work.
>>55565336
You don't know how many times I've hooked up a drive and nothing popped up asking me to choose the disk type(MBR\GPT) and I start freaking out, rebooting, checking device manager. Doesn't fucking pop up until the second I go into disk management. I just go there by default now.
>>55563530
I absolutely hate this, I don't understand why windows requires all drives to wake on access to one drive. If they're are links relying on other drive, simply wake them when they're specifically accessed. The constant waking forced me to turn off sleep, since it just shortening the life of my backup drives.
Never buy Seagate hard drives. It's like they are programmed to fail one day after the end of the warranty.
Also why the fuck are people defending them? You really care more about being snarky to OP than taking down a company that sells objectively shitty devices?
>>55564828
>seagate
>sshd
not even once
>>55565443
*If there are
not going to bother with the others. I'm tired.
>>55564492
Should I not turn my PC off at night?
>>55564455
>Those seagate 4TB failure rates
>phew
I used to have a 3TB seagate and it did fail, but the prices for the HGST 4TB drives were nearly twice as high when I purchased the three 4TB seagates.
>>55565466
Whats wrong with sshdd
>>55565357
Considering that was the first time I built a PC from scratch I could have fucked up worse.
>>55565336
I did the SSD with the OS on it fine.
>>55565590
I bought a 3TB Seagate like 6 years ago and it still runs flawlessly. Drive health still shows 100%.
>>55565643
power on hours count? Start\stop count?
>>55565511
We're not talking about twice a day here you fucking retard. Go get a green drive and see for yourself.
As a owner of a fifteen years old LAN center, I encourage you to not bought massive number of WD HDD. Iwant to say Samsung too but they already stop making it.
Hitachi got the best life rate but the speed is shit, Seagate got massive better speed compare to Hitachi, but it can't match up with HGTC lifetime since the thing is really slow.
So if you okay with shitty loading time go with Hitachi, but if you think WD can handle massive punishment be my guest.
>own seagate 2TB NAS drive.
>power outage one night, server hard shut down
>seagate drive is RAW, becomes kill on next reboot
>3 months later it randomly pops up, usable again, nothing lost
Wew. But yeah I won't be buying seagate anymore for important storage.
>>55563530
>hdd
>>55565902
this guy is using an incompatible hammer 2/10
>>55564325
What
>>55564455
They specifically mentioned only a couple models of harddrives from Seagate were responsible for the inflated numbers, specifically the 3TB model
Once they got rid of them, the failure rates went down to a more average level
>>55564828
i have this, works fine for 3years~
>>55565969
that doesn't explain why I had two 1 TB seagates fail on me roughly 13 months after purchase, two years in a row
you shouldn't buy anything from a company that fucks up that bad. WD is as cheap and objectively better
>>55565984
>>55566002
so what are your arguments faggot?
>>55566002
I only saw your post from the main /g/ page, but I like you.
I've had just as many WD drives fail on me as Seagate. The 3tb Seagates that come from the flooded factory are fucking notorious shite though.
Oldest drive in my system is a 12+ year old 500gb Barracuda of the model "everyone" claimed was shite. It's still 100% fine.
>>55563530
If your HDD spins down when inactive, that's going to happen. At least the program trying to access it will have to wait until it spins up.
If the whole OS freezes up, blame Windows, not Seagate. A competent OS would schedule other programs while the one program accessing the drive waits. And presumably it is just one program waiting. If other programs were accessing it, it wouldn't have spun down due to inactivity.
>>55563626
Constantly spinning it down and up again kills it faster. Ubuntu did this for a while and had to scale back its power management a bit when people saw it was killing laptop hard disks.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OrOb1TZ.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>55563530
>Whole OS freezes while HDD spins up
QUALITY OPERATING SYSTEM RIGHT THERE
>>55566023
thanks
let's fuck
>>55566064
there is no 2tb of seagate in this graphworks
![drive-stats-2016-q1-failure-by-mfg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/koS94oc.jpg "drive-stats-2016-q1-failure-by-mfg[1].jpg")
>Seagates are suddenly good again
>>55566088
you should get from the graph that seagate is wholly unreliable, the 4tb being an exception until we can confirm with the 5tb that it's a new trend
don't give Seagate a chance to sink with all your data in it.
>>55566111
>HGST still wiping the floor with everyone else
>>55564828
I don't know about the 2TB version but I got the 1TB one.
This is my server for my LAN center, basically my SSHD is the main drive for all games that needed from my client PC, so its always spinning all the time 24 hours a week non-stop.
>>55566111
WD fails just as much as Seagate. Actually judging from this grapth you should buy 4tb Seagate over any WD.
>>55563530
>Seagate has to be the absolute worst HDD manufacture in electronics history.
what is miniscribe
what is kalok
what is JTS
what is early '90s samsung
what is mid '90s maxtor
what is late '90s IBM
what is late '90s fujitsu
all of these companies had far worse records historically than a shit batch of a single drive capacity five years ago
>>55565992
Everyone has different experiences. I have 2 2TB Seagates, one 5 years old the other 3 years, and they both are running just fine
>>55566197
The graph, anon. The graph.
>>55566210
>>55566197
>>55566210
>>55566256
Did you buy the shitty 1.5TB and 3TB models? No? Then you're probably fine
>>55566286
LOOK CLOSER
AT THE GRAPH
HGST/Hitachi Deskstar 7K4000 HDS724020ALE640 2TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0GB/s 3.5" Internal Desktop Hard Drive (PC, Mac, CCTV DVR, NAS, RAID)w/1 Year Warranty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQ7YJ4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_uLXHxb3A78172
Why is it so cheap
>>55563626
Neo-/g/
>>55566359
Because it's a hard drive and they're old and have been cheap for ages
>>55566381
It's less expensive than this less capacity and reported by /g/ more failure rate brand
WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Desktop Hard Drive (WD10EZEX) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_7PXHxbTJW60T3
>>55566359
Its fucking slow but got superb lifetime, but its fucking slow.
>>55566425
Seems like a good deal to me then
>>55566430
perhaps the key to preserving data is patience
>>55566430
Yep, going through reviews, it seems Hitachi drives hesitate to move slow sectors and only move bad ones. Some people end up with like third of their drive consisting of slow sectors and everything running like shit.
>>55566430
So, perfect for a media store drive?
>>55566454
Its a really good HDD for CCTV I guess.
>>55566477
Five years experience with dozens of them, I never seen a corrupted data or OS, but after years of using it, sometime it takes 4-5 times longer than Seagate just to boot windows.
Sold every one of them, so I don't really know it data preservation capability in personal use.
Maybe I can say it can handle as media store drive but with bad write and read time, but again, I got no personal experience with them beside it running really super slow compare to other brand.
I can't hate the gate; my last one lasted almost 8 years before the noise got so worrying I replaced it. It'll still boot.
>>55566430
Oh I'll get the WD blue then
I want it for games
>>55564455
my 500gb HDD gave up some weeks ago
It was 7 years old.
This seagate bashing is retarded.
I still have drives from like 2004 (pic related grey one) and they work just fine. Yet my two wd black 1tb drives stopped working after few months of use
>My 2x1TB Hitachi RAID setup still going strong 6 years on
Maybe it's time to back up, just in case...
>>55568436
Those drives are obnoxious as fuck. So long as they're powered (whether there's a computer connected or not), they spin up every X minutes and run some bullshit self-diagnostics. Used to wake me the fuck up every night. Jesus, I have no idea how they are still in business.
>>55564467
only HDDs i've had fail were seagate
not WD, not maxtor, not toshiba, not even HDDs in my old ass computer, just this shitty company. I didn't even realize HDD failure was a legitimate concern until like 2009
>>55563530
Absolute fucking Garbage, I remember buying a 1TB when they came out, failed on me after 2 months. I still have a WD from 2007 that was used for the OS and it still works to this day.
>>55563530
>his boot drive goes to sleep
hahahaha
wat
>>55564287
>That backblaze survey
Is completely irrelevant to anything that isn't backblaze. They're putting consumer drives under constant use while mounting an insane amount on a single rack with nothing to protect them from vibration. You're an idiot if you think it's relevant to anything
>>55564455
>mfw my 2TB shitgate dies and took all my chink cartoons bdmv with it.
>>55568657
>mfw no face
>>55568657
>bdmv
You deserved it.
>>55564840
Too hot and too loud. Might be good for an enclosure in a different room.
>>55568657
nothing of value was lost.
>>55565013
anyone remember hitachi deathstars?
>>55563530
My 1tb seagate of 6 years died 1 day after backed up all my date on it and put in a Evo 850 and 6tb WD Black.
Feels good desu.
>>55571021
>anyone remember hitachi deathstars?
No.
But I'm pretty sure you'll find people well familiar with the IBM death stars.
>>55571061
same shit, hitachi bought it from IBM and continued mfg
>>55571078
Except Hitachi unfucked the model. The deathstars ended with IBM.
>>55565013
really makes you think
>>55571088
>The deathstars ended with IBM.
That was one line with six models, produced for around a year. So sick of seeing idiots going
>lol yeah deathstars they were all bad xD
>>55568436
I've actually noticed that WD drives fail on me with alarming regularity. For every Seagate failure I've seen, I've had 4 WD failures.
Of course, nothing tops the Quantum Fireball in my Power Macintosh. 20 years old, close to 50,000 power-on hours and not a single hiccup or bad sector to be seen.
>>55571214
Nice of you to ignore the part about Hitachi unfucking the MODEL.
Reading comprehension.
>>55571237
Nice of you to catastrophically miss the point. Hitachi didn't unfuck anything, there was nothing to unfuck. IBM had one bade line up of around twenty. They had good drives with the name Deskstar both before and after that one brief incident.
>lol yeah all IBM deathstars were bad xD
>>55571268
Backpedal some more you fucking ignorant retard.
>>55564306
I've never really understood the Intellithing in greens, yet I've got two 2TB Green drives in my computer.
What is it?
>>55571305
It's just a marketing term for "this drive will power off constantly to meet energy requirements to call it green".
I've had one of those 2tb drives, it started showing errors after 2 months.
>>55571279
Erm, I'm backpeddling? I genuinely laughed when I saw your post. Please research things before you try to spam memes again.
>>55571333
>It's just a marketing term for "this drive will power off constantly to meet energy requirements to call it green".
Essentially this. The drive aggressively powers down to save energy which is acceptable for a storage drive. That's its intended use. There's a minor problem with that though, most people don't use the drive as intended, they just see a cheap drive and get it because hey, a HDD is a HDD, right? And then the drives fail because they're going in and out of sleep far more often than the parts are good for.
>>55571333
oh. I see. I've had these drives for more than a year, do you think that pic related is fine for it? I've deactivated the sleep thing in the power profile options but I don't know if my drive is okay.
>>55563530
You mentioned one single fucked up product of Seagate. All of the others are great. Fuck you and your bullshit.
>>55564325
BLASTED
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>>55563530
>making your drives power off
>for any reason
>ever
You're a dipshit.
>>55563530
>HDD
theres yer problem
