>you can do anything with any turing complete language
>every language gets shat on
>john carmack is smart and he uses and loves C++
>linus torvalds is smart and he hates C++ and says it is indicative of a sub-monkey IQ
>lisp / scheme / haskell are praised by high IQers as if these languages are like Latin compared to the incoherent grunting of other languages. Using Java means you have a low IQ
>nothing gets made in the real world with these functional languages
>every CEO of a new and successful software company, when interviewed, says the original product was programmed in two weeks / one month by two to three people
>google / apple / microsoft have armies of geniuses (supposedly) but can't copy these ideas in ten seconds
>bill gates is a genius. Steve ballmer was just the fucking business guy and he did well on the putnam maths test and was a genius
>everything microsoft makes is pure shit
Please explain!
>>55536477
Programming languages are awful.
>>55536477
>you can do anything with any turing complete language
Well that's an overstatement. It's true that you can implement the same algorithms, but you can't necessarily implement them efficiently.
>>55536477
>muh black and white world view
Distilled autism.
>>55536477
You have autism, think Latin makes a good language when it's still a natural organic language aka shit and care too much about what other autists think instead of getting stuff done.
>>55536477
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sd601/papers/mov.pdf
mov is Turing complete, but writing everything with a single instruction is still retarded. No excuse me while I go shit on some Java babbys
Programming is something primarily done by autists for fun.
>>55536477
I disregard everything Turing said because the sodomite was a faggot and degenerate.
>>55536790
Stop using 4chan now, it's based upon what Turing said.
>>55536477
Carmack said something similar about C++ as well.
Carmack pretty much writes C++ like C and only uses C++ for the eco system.
>>55536477
>every language gets shat on
because programming is inherently horrible
>linus torvalds is smart and he hates C++ and says it is indicative of a sub-monkey IQ
linus is an arrogant douche
>nothing gets made in the real world with these functional languages
IQers don't know shit about the real world
>google / apple / microsoft have armies of geniuses (supposedly) but can't copy these ideas in ten seconds
maybe they don't want to?
>everything microsoft makes is pure shit
they don't need to be good
>>55536903
>nothing gets made in the real world with these functional languages
What is this "every programming language is shit" meme. What made you like/ get into it in the first place? Pseudo code?
Jesus you guys are so edgy. Does an opinion like that serve anything other than convincing yourselves you are smart? Because it sure doesn't seem like it motivates you to do something productive.
>>55536786
This. Even though I've been working as a Software Dev for years I still love spending time working on pet projects.
>>55536799
t. gay
>>55536980
/g/ has ceased being about technology and is now officially /consumerism/
You have the AMD and NVIDIA retards arguing over which corporate dick you should suck, OS fags that can't shut the fuck up about which OS they watch their cuck porn on and a whole bunch of other shit I can't be bothered to type out.
Fuck /g/
>>55536993
i miss /prog/
>>55537002
I miss old /g/
>>55537002
>>55537011
I miss the time where everything wasn't a "meme", where you could have a serious discussion on this shithole of a website.
I guess with moot gone and that gook taking over 4chan's soul is finally dead and buried.
>>55537023
>>55537011
/g/ has always been shit. but, at least back in the day we used to talk more about programming. people actually used to call me retarded, but also reply back with objective arguments.
nowadays, any controversial but thought out opinion is met with "hurr durr meme"
>>55536786
I work as C++ dev for the money, in my free time I play with python and RC planes, also I like to automate everything at home, agian with python, I use a single program for every thing going, so that I can terminate it if I want.
>>55537045
Exactly, it's so fucking retarded that it's not funny in any way, shape or form.
>"Sup /g/, what do you think about X ? I think it's really cool and I'm having a lot of fun using X to program Y"
>hurrrrrrr falling for the 'X' meme
>he fell for the 'X' meme
>retarded reaction image
The above 3 greentexts summarize 3/4 of the responses on /g/ in any given thread.
All programming languages are DSLs. We must end the meme of general purpose languages.
>>55536477
Carmack moved on to Lisp though.
>>55536477
>>you can do anything with any turing complete language
>>every language gets shat on
it isn't fun or easy to everything in every language, people have biases based on their perceptions and not the reality of the matter and are usually completely unaware of their own incompetence
>>john carmack is smart and he uses and loves C++
>>linus torvalds is smart and he hates C++ and says it is indicative of a sub-monkey IQ
carmack is userland, mostly simulations which involve high-level maths and complex interactions; linus is kernel which is mostly device drivers which need to be written in low-level C and assembly
in other words, different tools are appropriate for different jobs
>>lisp / scheme / haskell are praised by high IQers as if these languages are like Latin compared to the incoherent grunting of other languages. Using Java means you have a low IQ
>>nothing gets made in the real world with these functional languages
lisp/scheme/haskell/et al are impractical academic thought experiments
>>every CEO of a new and successful software company, when interviewed, says the original product was programmed in two weeks / one month by two to three people
this is a delusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
>>google / apple / microsoft have armies of geniuses (supposedly) but can't copy these ideas in ten seconds
they can and often do unless those ideas are patented which they often are
>>bill gates is a genius. Steve ballmer was just the fucking business guy and he did well on the putnam maths test and was a genius
>>everything microsoft makes is pure shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRA
>>55537045
>people actually used to call me retarded, but also reply back with objective arguments.
Sounds like you have a selective memory. Here, let me try to jog it for you
>Implying x
>Implying you
>Implying implications
Shiggy doggy doo.
/g/ has never given reasoned arguments, at least not for the paltry five years I've been here. Oh shit, has it really been half a decade?
>>55537074
>The above 3 greentexts summarize 3/4 of the responses on /g/ in any given thread.
And always has, unfortunately.
Remember that disaster that was /prog/?
>>55536477
/g/ is a meme dumpster, I don't read it anymore.
>>55537584
God damn android autocorrect butchers everything. Y, not you. Diggy, not doggy.
>>55536477
>Person was smart and said stupid thing
Newton was a smart guy and he believed in alchemy. Being smart does not mean you can't be fantastically thick too. There have been a great deal of idiotic smart people through the years.
>>everything microsoft makes is pure shit
Yeah, no. They've had a few Hugh profile failures but what company hasn't? Overall, their achievements are nothing short of impressive.
>>55536790
Wow, that sure will give you credit, pal.
All you need is HolyC, anon.
>>55537112
>All programming languages are DSLs. We must end the meme of general purpose languages.
That's not what "domain specific language" means.
>>55537958
But programming languages started as domain specific (technically problem oriented) languages.
FORTRAN -> formula translator
COBOL -> common business oriented language
ALGOL -> algorithmic language
etc...
We mostly use derivatives of algol for all of these problem domains, no wonder programming sucks so much.
>>55537048
> also I like to automate everything at home
> I use a single program for every thing going
>>55536536
How are you posting desu?
>>55536477
>you can do anything with any turing complete language
Only if you have infinite memory and infinite time.
>>55536786
I bet whatever you studied was much more useful and difficult than computer programming
>>55536477
>lisp
>nothing gets made in the real world with these functional languages
I have never seen GNU Emacs: the post.
>>55536477
Linus uses Qt for his diving application you doofus.
>>55537002
God, me too.
>>55536993
>>55537002
Join us!
http://boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/584592/can-we-have-a-prog-tech-cyber-board-or-something#top
