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So this is the power of a 5 year old card
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Fug
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How do you manage to spell Vulkan wrong when it's literally right there in front of you?
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>>55534736
nigga o shit.
I have a 280x, but use a 770 in my desktop. Might switch it out since the 770 is shit in vulkan.
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will it make my shit cpu better?
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>>55534769
It supposed to be a joke from yesterday thread when the Vulkan was compared between Nvidia and AMD

"Looks like AMD does what Nvidia Vulcant
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>>55534736

> tfw 280x
> tfw five year old i5 2500
> tfw with Vulkan I get 60-140fps at 2560x1080 on high with 16x AF and self shadowing on
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>>55534736
>The 5 year old card that you can buy sub $200 is performing better than the GTX 980 ti and the 1070
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/g/ needs more threads about GPUs and VIDEO GAMES
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>>55534869
Got you senpai
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>>55534736
>TFW I still have my old 7950 (280) laying around
Just a shame that it stands no chance against my Fury X.
I am interested in how my Fury X would perform, but its not worth getting doom just to try out Vulkan.
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>>55534736
that's actually pretty impressive, my 290X gets 120FPS in that scene as well. I guess AMD just stopped giving a fuck after 7970.
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>>55534769
>How do you manage to spell Vulkan wrong when it's literally right there in front of you?
shut up fag fite me 1v1 ?
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>>55534736
i play on ultra with 45-60fps with GTX780 I think it increased.
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>>55535267
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WEW GT 700 AND GT 600 OWNER IS SOKEKED.
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>>55535010
There is also the talos principle. It is a bit /g/ as well. Not much though.
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>>55535577
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>>55535577
>don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
>T. Firing Mechanism
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>>55534736
More like this is the power of a 5 year old card finally having competent enough drivers to keep up with a 5 year old game engine
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>>55535807
A-are you being retarded or something?
Unreal Engine 4 is four years old too. Is that engine obsolete as well?
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>>55535267
saved, LMAO
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>>55534769
The correct spelling is Vulkan you stupid fuck.
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Shame there's going to be like two games supporting vulkan due to microsoft and nvidia will buying out studios.
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I have a gtx 1070 right now in my rig and my 280x is still on my desk.

Did I fuck up for not waiting til Vega?
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>>55537012
like we told you yes you fucked up, 10xx series is fucking trash who can´t into dx12 like all other nividia cards they are one trick ponys on dx11 and shit the bed in other cenarios.
Nvidia will never be good at async computing or dx12 at all. If you want to be future proof you buy amd, nvidia is only for short term perfomance
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>>55537012
Do not listen to the memes. Look at this situation from an unbiased perspective unlike these shills.

Currently nvidia is superior when running in dx11/OGL but amd gains a lot from dx12/Vulkan. Now, people will try and tell you that dx11 is dead and vulkan/dx12 is already the norm which is a complete lie. 2018/19 will probably be the point where every single game being released will be developed with dx12/vulkan so currently you're perfectly fine since dx11 is still very much the norm and no idiot fanboy can refute that.
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>>55534852
This is actually worse by 70 frames
>t 980ti owner
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>>55534736
I don't know man. I have 290X in my system and I'm getting same performance as 280X. Something is fucked up.
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>>55537432
CPU: i7 6700 Skylake
Settings: Default Graphics (Medium and above)
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>>55537337
980ti pulling 170fps on ultra settings, please tell me what pill you take
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>>55537469
Max everything and set the api to vulkan u scrub
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>>55537484
that's not me you idiot. it is the op's settings.
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>>55537469
I doubt CPU matters here, I have OCed 4670, but game doesn't max it out.
Everything on max, except for Motion Blur..
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>ze germans going from 36fps to over 50fps on an 8350 + nano at 4k

That is some serious gains for 4k.
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>>55537541
and in power saving mode. cpu runs at 1.8 ghz.
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>>55534736
I only have the 280(non x) version, am I still good?
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>>55537589

Its just a 280x with less cores (clockspeed varies on a model by model basis).
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>>55537589
test it.
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I have a 280x too!

Vulkan is just for games that support it though, right?
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I have a standard 7850 with 1gb vram, it could somewhat keep 30-40 fps at 1080p with low graphic settings. With vulkan it pushed 40-60 fps at medium graphics.

Thats pretty damn impressive.
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>>55537670
Yes. Games have to be made specifically with Vulkan rendering pipeline.
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>>55537719
Aaw, too bad.

Not many games will support it then since nvidia pays devs better.
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>>55537733
I'm expecting valve doing something about that.
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>>55537769
If HL3 shows what vulkan can do then AMD might be saved.

It's good that software progress is being made and not just hardware in the gpu department.
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>>55537733

Hasn't worked out for DX12 either. As of the latest tomb raider patch AMD outperforms its equivalent Nvidia card in every DX12 game
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>>55534736
>vulkan uses more vram
Dropped.
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>>55537769
doing what? They already did all they could. Provided decent documentation and tried to push it, using their name. They won't pay off anybody, and they already ported their killer title to Vulkan.
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I don't get it, how is the 280x so old? Isn't it a fairly new card?
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>>55537862
hl3 with vulkan.
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>>55537861
>>vulkan uses more vram
>Dropped.
That's a good point. Apparently the 970 Memecard is the most popular card on Steam so that means it's the best and it's only 3.5GB. Nvidia will hopefully release a new driver so all these people can download more ram.
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>>55537876
DOTA is already bigger than HL3, HL3 is a meme game. And even if they spent dozen of years and make a Vulkan game, no one would care, Vulkan works on Windows 10. No one gave a fuck about OpenGL when it was used in Rage, WTNO and DOOM. People play games, not APIs.
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>>55537871
280x is a rebranded and slightly OCed 7970. It's 4 years old.
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>>55538059
>HL3
>meme game
dude.

> No one gave a fuck about OpenGL
we are talking about Vulkan

>Vulkan works on Windows 10
I'm assuming you meant only windows on windows 10. and you are wrong. it works throughout windows 7 to 10, gnu/linux and macos.
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>>55536763
Dote supports
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>>55538111
No one gave a fuck about OpenGL and no one really gave a fuck about Vulkan, general populace talks about Vulkan as "another DirectX12" and only because MS turned on their PR machine to boast about DX12. People don't even know what it is, it's a pixie dust to them.

And I do mean Windows 10. Yes it works on 7 and 8, but by the time HL3 is there, even if it's 1 or 2 years away, many people will be using W10(around 45% of Steam today) and there's no reason to switch, because both DX12 games and Vulkan work on it.

And HL3 is a "meme" by this point.
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>tell for the 380 4gb maymay
>Doom runs pretty fucking well even without Vulcuck
>most games I play don't support Vulcan

Suffering
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>have r9 290
>just got a cheapo chinko korean 1440p panel
will vulkan help me too? I want good fps ;__;
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>>55535010
NuDoom is actually really good, and id are doing a lot of post-launch support to improve sone of the flaws like the poor multiplayer
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>>55538254
yes
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>>55534966
Based Amanda
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Can i get a TL;DR on what the fuck is vulkan
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>>55538371
do you know what dx12 is?
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>>55537594
Classic meme.
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>>55538371
Vulkan is like Mantle 2.0.

/fin
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>>55538371
baremetal api, in otherwords the programmer gets more ability to talk to the hardware without drivers and the OS getting in the way so much so more optimization can be done.
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I can get a 380x for $150 after rebate right now, would I be a fool to do this instead if wait-fagging for aftermarket 480s?

t. budgetfag
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>>55538439
wait for 480.
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>>55538469
o-okay... the wait goes on. Hold strong 6950-senpai
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>>55538439
wait for 1060
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>>55538439
I have the 380, I know the 380x has a decent bump in performance in co prison but I wouldn't go for it desu.
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>>55538495
Buy some fresh thermal pad, thermal grease, and alcohol wipes. Give that baby a good clean up and maintenance.

>tfw 7950 still going stronk
Got it for 140$ 2 years ago. Gonna put it in a pc I'm making for my nephew using spare parts once I get my system updated. Feels gud.
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>>55537861
unused vram is wasted vram
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>>55538185
>>>/v/
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>>55536209
miért posztoltad ezt?
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>>55534769
It's spelled Vulkan
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>>55537480
nvidiashill pill
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>>55537337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DgzKAH-_Y0
Whats this? 50-60 fps?
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>>55537432
TXAA?

Async Compute is only enabled on certain AA
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>>55534777
It'll reduce AMD's shitty driver overhead.
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>>55535518
>mfw 630m
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>>55541651
And where's the 1080?
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>>55541621
My mainboard with that PoS card broke once.
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>>55541597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlzKPBIjZPo

SMAA isn't running with async compute
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>>55541693
>PoS
Point of sale?
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>>55541678

Go ask ze germans - they probably didn't have one to test. Either way the fury x will most likely bbe on par with a 1080 in this scenario.
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>>55537671
Thats impressive.
I must try my 270x
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>>55541651

Wait explain me this.
There is no DX11 version of Doom so it only run on openGL before the Vulkan update come out?

Isn't Vulkan a better version of openGL made by same company?
Why they didn't make the game in Vulkan instead of the old version openGL?
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>>55534736
It looks like my 7970 was a good investment.
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>>55541774

>There is no DX11 version of Doom so it only run on openGL before the Vulkan update come out?


Correct.

>Isn't Vulkan a better version of openGL made by same company?

Not quite the base of vulkan is essentially Mantle - a collaboration between AMD and DICE.

>Why they didn't make the game in Vulkan instead of the old version openGL?

Vulkan only had its 1.0 release early this year. When doom was in development vulkan basically didn't exist in a usable form.
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>>55541774
Vulkan is supposed to replace OpenGL. Or rather Vulkan is the new evolution of OpenGL.

Game wont be DX11 or DX12, ever since the devs only support open source OpenGL or Vulkan.

Game was in development before Vulkan was finalized probably. So Vulkan version was worked afterwards.
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>>55541798
>>55541801

I see, I didn't know Vulkan just come out this year.
I guess Vulkan will be the new standard now since basically Unreal engine has been dominating the game engine market since forever.
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>>55535807
>Vulkan
>Driver
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>>55541830
Doom uses id Tech 6, not UE, and is an engine internal to Bethesda the same way Frostbyte is to EA and Anvil is to Ubisoft.
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>>55534736
So... you made a jpg with Microsoft Paint writing 52FPS on top and 112FPS below. Amazing. Seems legit. Your old card can make jpgs, nice.
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>>55538469
Why, is a 480 really that much better? Also I haven't seen a single card that is actually $200.
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>>55542016

Amazon was selling one for 199 burgers earlier.
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>>55542016
All the 4GB are $199. If you can get one, then thats that.

Shits selling too fast. Shit stays in stock for minute or two before someone buys it.
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>>55537432
one of you is making shit up
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>>55537432
Switch to Fullscreen you noob.
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>>55542107
OP is not in fullscreen
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>>55534736
well its a bit misleading to be honest

for some reason (nvidia) epic never put the opengl4.5 for amd (they do have full support for it ) and it was on 4.3 while on nvidia it was 4.5
then vulkan came and is showing that impressive jump..in reality isnt really so big but we will never find out
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>>55542120
I did not notice that, my apologies.
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>>55542151
Chances are some features on the AMD's 4.5 GL are not implemented properly. That why they reverted probably.
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Meanwhile, actually decreases performance on maxwell cards.
Gimpworks in action.
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>>55534736
>280x
>5 year old card
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>>55542178
tin foil hat mode on

what if amd actually asked this so the jump to the vulkan be as impressive as we see it now?
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>>55542197
it's a HD 7970
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>>55537432
go windows classic theme and try again (or go fullscreen)
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>>55542188
Fuck
I own a 980ti but I can still get a refund
I just don't know what to buy instead
AMD don't yet have a high end out
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>>55542197

it is 5 years old you retard.
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>>55542215
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>>55542228
No fucking bully
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>>55541651

oh my god, fucking raped!

the 1070 is fucking obsolete already
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>>55542215
>I own a 980ti
Can you please wait until next-gen? You're still running a beast of a card.
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>>55541586
i dont think doom is still in beta mate
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>>55542197
>Take the HD7970
>Give it a new name
>???
>Profit as tech illetrates think it's a brand new product
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>>55542221
>released in 2013
>5 years old
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>>55542203
probably not

what's true is that AMD cards were badly outclassed in DOOM because of the openGL issue and now they're ahead of nvidia

they won't gain as much in games that already worked properly
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>>55542263
>HD7970
>released in 2013
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>>55542261

>Take the GTX 680
>Give it a new name
>???
>Profit as tech illetrates think it's a brand new product
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>>55542265
well tiago said some weeks ago on twitter that they were able to bring down the latency to 3 and 1ms
and according to op screenshot its on 8-7 ms
we probably havent seen nothing yet i assume
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>>55541794
My nigguh. It's a bit noisy, but it still has top notch 1080p perfs, and runs mega cool even OC'd (and after replacing thermal compound).
Meanwhile, a 770 runs like shit today.
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>>55542237
N-no! I'm getting raped by the cheaper AMD last gen!
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>>55542282
I never said anything about the gtx 9x0 being better or worse, I was just explaining why other anons were saying that the 280x were 5 years old
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>>55542306
You're not going to benefit much from Maxwell 2.1

Just keep your 980ti

Or give it to your friend if you hate it so much
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>>55542282
Would really like to see how a 680 performs with vulkan.
Wait, can it even vulkan?
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NOBODY USES VULKAN!!!!

NOBODY USES DX12!!!!!
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>>55542323
Stop dictating what I should do
I'm not THAT submissive... uguu
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>>55542330

Not according to bethesda.
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>>55542340
But your decisions have been already dictated, Anon
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>>55542340
well rotr and total warhammer are the first games to remove support to maxwell 2.0 on dx12...
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lel
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My 7970 was already the bestest computer investment I ever made.
It's not even supposed to async compute well.
Please stap AMD.
I was considering the RX 480. But maybe I don't really need to.
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>>55542375
What? 980ti can't dx12 those games?
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>>55542398
not anymore
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>>55542410
Wot
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>>55535572
Talos is gimped Vulkan don't bother. They just put it as a wrapper to OGL as an experiment. It runs like ass.
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>>55534736
This is going to be the death-knell for AMD

No AMDpoorfag is going to upgrade yet when they're still beasting around that old thing.
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>>55534966
slut
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>>55542426
It already ran fine on dx11 Tahiti anyway.
just few framerate drops, in some places, but nothing unplayable.
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>>55542420
well i dont know if by dropping support they mean that you cant actually run the game on dx12 or you wont see any improvements

but given how rotr is nvidia game and how they love to gimp people id say they just cut maxwell 2.0 cards off
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>>55542435

There is an easy solution, released a driver with FUD that said it could boost your old AMD cards by 100%.
But instead it boost your voltage, blew up their old card. Now people need to buy a new AMD card.

Nvidia did this multiple times and it works like a charm.
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>>55535267
DELETE THIS
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>>55542460
>be NoVideo buyer.
>Have to change hardware every 2 years.
>Not because it's incapable of doing the job,
>but because drivers aren't updated anymoar.
>Still shills that AMD has no drivers.
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>>55542480
DELETE DIS
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>>55542480
now that would be some nice shit
blowing up cards 2-3 days after the warrantly has passed

i think we should stop typing ideas here...
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>>55542506
Especially for the sad souls whose card has a 1 year warranty
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>>55542480
Nvidia needed some way to cook all those pork shoulders.

truly oldfags will get this.
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kek being this cucked
being sponsored by nvidia and having to publicly thanks amd
https://mobile.twitter.com/idSoftware/status/752609704795398144
hahahahahahah
revenge of the keks
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Reminder that every reference 1060 won't last you a year before it burns.
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>>55534736
I can scam my friend for an unused r9 390 for 220 euros.

Should I do it?
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>>55541801
This is both a sign that Vulkan is a well designed API and that AMD's OpenGL are indeed total shit.
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>>55542684
And it fucking work with win 7 and Linux.
Curious if there's any linux benchs though.
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>>55542684
no anon this proves that the id team is really good at coding instead of bethesda

vulkan/dx12 relies too much on the dev to do the work now and believe me we are going to see a lot of shit till they learn how to do it properly
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>>55542725
Realise consoles are amd.
therefore gcn.
therefore vulkan compatible.
Literally most work is done when porting to AMD pc.
GimpVidia is fucked.
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>>55542632
how big is your nose?
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I have an R9 270. ;_; Am I fucked?
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>>55542725
Isn't Vulkan not meant to be used by game developers directly because it's very low level?
Is anyone working on some OGL-like abstraction layer on top?
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>>55542762
Fairly long and narrow. Je is a retard tho
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>>55542779
270 is gcn 1.0 right? yeah you are..
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>>55542779
All GCN cards get a major boost from Vulcan/DX12
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>>55542804
not meant? what you mean?
not letting the devs to code?
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>>55542779
Should be fine for 1024x768
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>5 years old
the 280x came out in october 2013
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>>55541597
TSSAA(TX8)
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>>55542833
and the 280x = 7970
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>>55542833
And it's the same chip as the HD7970, which came out in december 2011.
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>5 years old
The 280x came out in october 2013,
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>>55542833
fucking retartds. 280X is exactly a 7970.
Which came out in december 2011.
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>>55542833
It's a rebranded 7970 which came out in december 2011.
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>>55542870
It is a rebrand of the 7970
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>>55542848
>>55542876
Hello soulmate!
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>>55541801
>Vulkan is supposed to replace OpenGL. Or rather Vulkan is the new evolution of OpenGL.
It's not supposed to teplace OpenGL. The same way DX12 isn't there to replace DX11. Both of these APIs in both cases will run in parallel. One low level for more experienced devs and one high level for more laid back development. Same thing as Playstation, they have 2 APIs and devs are free to choice which they want to use.
OpenGL is also there for legacy reasons. It won't die, you can't kill it.
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>>55542833
>>55542870
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So, on the long run , it's better to buy AMD.
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>>55542888
>>55542884
>>55542876
>>55542870
>>55542848
>>55542844
>>55542833
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>>55542899
if you dont care about your money you can always buy an nvidia card each year
if you do value your money even a bit you can buy a high end amd card for 4-5 years
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>>55534736
Not bad, not bad at all...
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>>55542810
No you're not fucked, you should see performance increases also.
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>>55542213
>>55542107
OP is not fullscreen. Also Vulkan doesn't like internal screenshot function. Steam Screenshot function hangs the process and locks up your PC.
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>>55534736
>>>/v/
>>>/v/
>>>/v/
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>>55542927
in vulkan maybe..
im pretty sure amd will drop the support on this cards on this month also..
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>>55542928
quality amd drivers
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>amdfags find one game where their card offers a best performance/$
>IT'S OVER NVIDIA IS FINISHED
This is way to predictable. It's not even fun anymore.
btw no horse in this autistic competition, don't even play games that require dedicated graphic cards
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>>55542895
It won't die even if you kill it.
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>>55542973
No reason whatsoever. Same overall architecture.
Support was kindof dropped for vliw5 with legacy drivers.
But they still making sure shit works.
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>>55542988
>not "looks like AMDoes what NVidia Vulcan't"
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>>55543001
see
>>55542761
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>>55537317
2016 is already the point where every single new game being released is dx12 or vulkan

it'll be 2018/19 when actual decent games first show up
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>>55543022
key different things..

static ace engines
no programmable cores

literally gcn 1.0 was the testbed
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>>55543046
sure... and amd is going to take over the market over the next 3 years right?
you realize you guys have been saying this since 2010?
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>>55538439
The goddamn system thinks my huge writeup of OGL's muddy history in vidya is spam for some retard reason, so here's a tl;dr: don't buy a card just yet if you're set on Vulkan performance alone, as it's too new for anyone other than the masterminds at id to adopt, as they've been OGL-only for years now and have a pretty good idea on how it works

Consider how long it took for DX11 games to be purely-DX11 from the ground-up WITHOUT a seperate DX9 executable, and we're still getting DX9 games as it is. The industry is terrible when it comes to adopting new things, and OGL-esqe API's requiring different development in comparison to D3D will ensure that assuming publishers DO shift their teams to Vulkan, it'll be a while before it's a competent shift

DX12 being Windows 10 might accelerate the adoption, but we've got a while before all AAA games ship with Vulkan at launch
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>>55534736
Nvidia won't allow for this
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>>55543056
The thing about GCN is that it's adaptable.
It's the pinnacle of GPGPU. It cans literally compute anything you throw at it.
Sure there are generational imrovements to shortcut some operations.
But it's the same overall.
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>>55543074
well nvidia cant downplay the importance of dx12 or vulkan anymore thats the problem

eventually their lies are coming back to bite them
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>>55543074
Exactly. GCN has never showed its potential since then.
Dx12 was supposed to help, but NoVideo made sure they sponsored titles using it so they don't look so bad.
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>>55542336
one (1) playable game has vulkan support, wow!
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>>55543103
i never its not but gcn 1.1 has programmable ace cores and logic pipeline...literally amd can just throw a bios update for every game
but they cant do that for gcn 1.0 cards thats the problem

look here to see what i mean
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/total-war-warhammer-directx-12-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,5.html
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>>55543111
>nvidia cant downplay the importance of dx12 or vulkan anymore
So far is literally one game on PC. And for some reason every single amd fanboy is 100% sure nvidia can't do anything via drivers. That's some wishful thinking right there.
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>>55542435
I am with my 290
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>>55534736
>AMD unleashes Tahiti's final form

HOLY SHIT KEPLER IS TOTALLY BTFO AND LEAVES MAXWELL RUNNING IN FEAR
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>>55543143
Didn't know about that.
I don't play warhammer, but I guess this means finally upgrading is a good thing.
I also notice this is a dx12 thing.
What kind of gcn is in consoles?
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>>55543179
Fucking Tahiti just keeps on giving, man. How many super forms does this damn chip even have?
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>>55541736
>Piece of shit.
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>>55543150
its 2 vulkan and 16 released dx12 games along with 8 more coming this year..

also yes they cant it was their decision to milk dx11 that created maxwell family...
also if they did had a driver they would have already released it its been almost a years since the first time they said "we gonna support it via drivers"
fact is dx12 has an emulation on OS for nvidia to accomodate async at some level throwing it on the cpu along with the arm chip on the gpu of nvidia

vulkan doesnt it need to completly offload it on the cpu and that isnt something you really want..
thats why you see shit like this>>55543143
and thats why they gonna get another class action lawsuit (i cant see the future but i can smell the hordes of nvidia users with titan x and 980tis being furious about their so called dx12.1 support lol )
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>>55542435
There's other reasons to upgrade. I sold my 290x for a 480 for DP 1.3, HDMI 2.0, full hw accleration for 4k, better perf/watt, full DX12 support, etc. It's less performance for sure but this is just a hold off until Vega anyway.
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>>55543189
its a beefed up 7950 8 ace instead of 2 more memory bla bla almost a 290x
but that doesnt matter really the cores on the consoles are very different than ours
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>>55543221
>also if they did had a driver they would have already released it
that's not an argument unless you can't explain why
what is with amd and wishful thinking
you guys literally think the universe is just going to align perfectly and suddenly amd is going to jump from 10% market share to 50+, and every game is just going to run better on cheaper cards
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>>55543249
>consoles
>almost 290x
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>>55543209
This isn't even it's final form.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMD
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>>55543074
>and amd is going to take over the market over the next 3 years right?

Yeah, pretty much.

While nvidia was rigging benchmarks and bribing developers to wreck AMD performance with gameworks, AMD was developing open-source low-level API and the architecture to take advantage of it. AMD pushed the boundaries of the technologies, and maneuvered into the forefront. They played a 4d chess move on nvidia while nvidia's been playing fucking checkers.

So now:

Both Vulkan and DX12 utilize AMD's mantle API framework
These API's are designed for and around AMD's GCN architecture
All the consoles use AMD GPU's
Games designed to run on consoles, and AMD GPU's in particular, are now significantly easier (cheaper!) to port to PC
AMD has had 5 years to work out issues with GCN and low level API's
nvidia is still stuck on dx11 performance
nvidia has no decent dx12 or vulkan implementations
nvidia now has to play catch-up on architecture and technology that they didn't develop and don't understand

So what we're going to see is nvidia running neck and neck with AMD in dx11 performance, and AMD blowing nvidia the fuck out in dx12/vulkan performance.
In spite of the lower performance AMD cards have in dx11 games, as time goes on it's going to matter less and less - new AMD cards will be running old dx11 games at 120fps while nvidia's doing 130fps; nobody will give a fuck about the difference and will buy AMD for a 40% fps increase over nvidia's equivalent in a dx12/vulkan game.

nvidia is really fucked in the market unless they can put together a really fucking good dx12/vulkan architecture fast
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>>55543285
in terms of raw power yet it is its bigger than 290x actually dont forget its a semi custom..
its being chocked to death with a shitty memory bandwidth and lower clocked rops
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>>55543249

>7950

Try 7870 - that is the closest fit from AMD's dedicated card lineup that matches the core count and clockspeed of the ps4's APU. A 290x is considerably more powerful (over double the hardware once you factor in clockspeed).
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>>55541535
>>55536747
>>55535233
>>55534792

look in the screenshot you blind motherfuckers
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>>55543282
Amd has around 23% desktop GPU market share.

t. Gtx1080 owner.
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>>55543324
seems to me that u have mixed a 9 where an 8 shouldve been m8
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>>55543330
nope you cant really measure it like that lol
it has more pipelines more ACE engines idiotic memory it has power gating tech
its really a mash up to give it into perspective
480 is the first desktop gpu that uses power gating tech on the cores atm
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>>55534769
Yeah, what they said, you shitfucker.
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>>55543317
It's like I'm reading North Korea government propaganda.
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>>55537337
this guy is right i get 110 fps average with my 980 ti on 1440p with nightmare settings on.
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>>55543398
You're gonna be living in north korea pretty soon m8

enjoy your nvidia card, lol
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>>55542761

Realise people release games on the xbone
With DX12
There is no reason to make a multiplat Vulkan unless you're paid to do it, cheaper and easier to just make it DX12
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>>55543421
I don't have a graphics card.
I only play VNs and point-and-click adventure games.
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>>55543433
>Realise people release games on the xbone

Didn't you heard the news? Microsoft already given up on xbox senpai.
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>>55541877
UE has vulkan support, although I think it also has DX12 support.
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>>55543433
Playsation supports vulkan and not dx12.
xbone has no reason to not run vulkan, except waste developpers time and money.
Still the best selling console afaik.
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https://twitter.com/PellyNV/status/752889939730149376

Hope you aren't waiting for Nvidia to squeeze anymore performance out of vulkan for Doom.
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>>55541586

>fag plays doom with a gamepad
>sounds like a gay simpsons character
>wonders why he gets his shit handed to him

fucking fags
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>>55542215
980ti is just fine. It was a very poor buy because of the gen change being so close (as I'm sure everyone on /g/ told you before you jumped the gun), but it's going to be perfectly usable for at least 3 more years. Just buy a new GPU then.
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>>55543433
the costs aren't particularly extreme, you have backwards compatibility on all operating systems rather than your game being locked into windows 10 and consoles

Plenty of people don't like the lock-in going on with win 10

and linux finally having a decent API for games is fantastic

and there's no reason a game can't be made for both dx12 and vulkan
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>>55543474
the same idiot that said to oxide that they didnt had async enabled on maxwell on aots

lel seems like pelly is amdroy of nvidia
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>>55543464

UE is such a fucking hackjob at times - off the top of my head it STILL doesn't support async compute for the windows build of the engine (does on the console version). Christ given you can still taste Nvidia's cock on Epic's breath UE4 still might as well be NvidiaEngine.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out (not that I know) that UE4 is months behind cryengine.

>>55543501

We're still waiting on the async driver she promised us months ago when the AoTS drama kicked off.
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>>55543487
you wont have shit for nvidia thats the problem
if they dont figure out a way to offload async usage into something that wont choke the system to death dont expect vulkan to be on windows 7 or linux
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>>55542492
>>but because drivers aren't updated anymoar.

Is this a joke? Even my ancient laptop GPU, a 230m, got new drivers recently.
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>>55543520
sounds like FUD to me
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>>55543512
it will be a year on 11 days
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>>55543523
Don't be fooled.
The binaries are the same.
It looks like an update, but it really isn't.
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>>55543544

Sure thing, shill.
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>>55543548
It's true. You can check yourself if you want. It's not hard.
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>>55543143
390 to 390x nets only additional 2 FPS. Strange
Also, nVidia performance is not that bad. Except for 970, it gets shitfaced.
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Pleeeease let Vulkan/DX12 get widespread AMD get a big market share again so competition can finally breath some new life into this market again.
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>>55543523
what drivers has to do with activel supporting it?

lol did you saw vulkan support or dx12 support?
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>>55543209
There's Hawaii and Fiji in the queue, ready to be unleashed at nVidia.

I don't think those two are enough to send nVidia reeling to the corner. Maybe Vega?
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>>55543580

Total warhammer is immensely cpu bound - especially at 1080p. At 4k the fury x is still a monster but its left in the dust by the 1080 (as it should be really).
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>>55543580
Why do so many charts always skip the R9 290 4GB?
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>>55543604
that is really a bench before the async patch..
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>>55543600
Vega is definitely what I'm waiting for, for now I'm perfectly happy with my 290.
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>>55543600

Fiji won't age as well as tahiti and hawaii - its waaaay too rop starved. If AMD had given the fury x 96 rops (or heaven forbid, 128) it would've annihilated a titan x in so many ways it would be seen as comical.

Alas the limits of 28nm were met and 64 rops was all fiji got.

>>55543620

This is the only other chart I have and the ruskies don't have a pascal card to test on.
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>tfw I have a 280X
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