Whats /g/s opinion on pci express ssds?
Idea is decent, in practice it doesn't work because booting from PCI-E is either impossible or a massive pain in the ass.
The SSDs aren't really fast enough to take advantage of PCI-E's bandwidth, either.
>>55504997
I have an intel 750, there is an optimization I haven't done for it which may yield higher reads/writes, but so far:dd if=/dev/zero of=~/temp.file bs=1M count=10240 conv=fdatasync,notrunc status=progress
10468982784 bytes (10 GB, 9.8 GiB) copied, 12.0933 s, 866 MB/s
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
10737418240 bytes (11 GB, 10 GiB) copied, 12.966 s, 828 MB/s
$ dd if=temp.file of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10240 status=progress
10180624384 bytes (10 GB, 9.5 GiB) copied, 8.0003 s, 1.3 GB/s
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
10737418240 bytes (11 GB, 10 GiB) copied, 8.42474 s, 1.3 GB/s
I'm enjoying it so far. Great VM load times.
>>55504997
Superior.
>>55505027
What kind of retard thinks PCIe SSD are for BOOT time?
SSDs already make boot times quick, PCIe is NOT supposed to make it faster, you'd be shaving off fractions of a second anyway, no point.
PCIe SSDs are for large file transfers and if you have 1gbps+ internet and need a drive that can keep up.
Or working with RAW 4k and 8k files.
At this point I'm skeptical about paying extra for drive performance beyond that of midrange SATA3 SSDs. I guess for certain workloads like video editing it makes sense to get the fastest storage possible but I doubt /g/ has a lot of people who edit video.
>>55505071
Elaborate on that image
>>55505078
Ding ding ding
>>55505027
>PCIe SSDs are for large file transfers and if you have 1gbps+ internet and need a drive that can keep up.
Even my old HDD can read/write at 1gbps. Maybe you meant 10gbps+, right?
>>55505027
>doesn't work because booting from PCI-E is either impossible or a massive pain in the ass.
Wat? It worked out of the box for me for both Linux and windows
>>55506577
Turns a RAM stick into a USB drive.
Pretty pointless since it gets wiped when you unplug it, but its fast i guess?
>>55506660
very few HDDs can write 128MB/s consistently, they might burst performance that high for small workloads, but if you're downloading a 50GB movie there isn't a chance in hell your HDD is going to keep up with 128MB/s write speed.
That being said, I did mean 10gbps in my post, but an argument can be made its valid for 1gbps too.
>>55506701
SATA3 is 6gb/s which is pushed by SSDs already...
>>55506700
Where do i get one
>>55506701
I don't have the gigabit yet but my HDD pretty impresses me with its 158-154 speeds. It's an old 10k velociraptor btw.
>>55506782
yea some 10k RPM drives I can see keeping up, but at this point you're better off using normal SATA 3 SSDs for that.
>>55506700
>Pretty pointless since it gets wiped when you unplug it
you should be able to have a small battery mounted on the back to provide a small charge to at least keep it going for a day or two while not plugged in. Make it rechargeable when its plugged in and you're golden.
>>55506820
>pajeet tier contraption for a piece of ~8GB space choked by usb 2/3 speeds
ayy lmao "you're golden"
>pci-e 1x is limited to 6gbps
>>55506807
I think wd gold and black can do nearly 200mb/s sustained
>>55505071
FAST
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>>55505071
sadly it's for SPD modding, not for storage
>>55507293
Gold? You mean RE?
>>55505078
the high read speed is great for any application.
the write speed only matters for content creators
since you can pick 120 ones up for $40+ you may as well use that m.2 slot
why not just use the m.2 slot on your mobo
>>55505027
>booting from pcie is impossible
It's literally no different from any sata drive. I do it every day
>>55506700
>gets wiped when you unplug it
Sounds like the perfect storage solution for my needs
whats a good pci x1 ssd i can get for cheap?
just something to boot the OS off of
>>55505078
Tiered storage
Databases
Lots and lots of random io
>>55505071
>Supposed ram disk
>Interfaced with an USB port
>>55508246
My sides
>>55508246
Hmmm
>>55506694
It's a pain in the ass if you have an ancient motherboard. If you have M2 support, you can boot from a PCIe SSD fine
>>55507959
Well it takes longer for your motherboard to POST because it requires pci initilization which is an extra step normally skipped when booting from SATA. So it is different and actually slower than SATA.
That being said any modern motherboard shouldnt have any problems booting from PCI besides the slightly longer POST times.
>>55508246
>>55508246
Won't get wiped immediately, cold boot attacks would still work.
>>55509649
Does using SRAM instead of DRAM solve that?
>>55508246
you're fucked
>>55509649
Store the encryption keys in your CPU cache. Or I've also read up a bit on using SSE registers for encryption keys.
>>55505071
I have some laptop RAM just laying around. I want one of these.
>>55506694
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
bump for more volatile storage solutions
>>55504997
g opinion is always the same
pci ssd are a MEEEEEM
>>55504997
Why didn't sata express take off. These things run way too hot and I don't want them near graphics cards.
>>55506700
No way it's fast. There's so much overhead with USB transactions there is no way it gives you any more performance than using a flash drive.
>>55505071
>Lets use a RAM stick through a USB port
>>55510867
>Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
>Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
shut up nerd
>>55512718
Whom are you quoting?
>>55505071
Now use readyboost to turn that RAM masquerading as a flashdrive into memory again.
