How soon will we get 2TB micro SD cards?
It's been 2 years and the best we have are 256GB micro SD cards. What's taking these fuckers so long?
>>55501372
>In 9 years, that person's finger got smaller and paler.
They're gonna die soon, aren't they?
>>55501372
there is an absolute limit to how small you can make a transistor
>mfw thinking about how hot these fucking things get
>>55501372
Aren't you one of those guys who don't know a shit about technology and believes that its some sort of wizardry that converts time into more powerful/effective things disreegarding laws of physics?
When are holotapes and Light storage going to become a thing?
They will get replaced with something that can transfer data faster but can carry less, just like SSDs and HDDs.
>>55501372
>It's been 2 years and the best we have are 256GB micro SD cards. What's taking these fuckers so long?
Technically the best we have are 512GB cards, but you'd have to pay out the ass for one.
1: You'd need an as of yet nonexistent material for it.
2: Most devices can't read a card that large anyway.
>>55501411
>there is an absolute limit to how small you can make a transistor
>what are 3D transistors
>>mfw thinking about how hot these fucking things get
Aren't smaller transistors supposed to produce less heat? Isn't this why 14nm skymeme processors are cooler than 32nm faildozer housefires?
>>55501445
>what are 3D transistors
how does this affect the size of a transistor such that they can be made infinitely small like you suggesting
maybe if we had 4D transistors you'd be on to something
>>55501372
You don't understand engineering or physics. It cannot be done.
>>55501437
>2: Most devices can't read a card that large anyway.
Wrong. The SDXC spec supports up to 2TB of storage. If your Android phone has an SDXC micro SD slot then it's REQUIRED to accepts 2TB SDXC micro SD cards.
>"The Secure Digital eXtended Capacity (SDXC) format, announced in January 2009 and defined in version 3.01 of the SD specification, supports cards up to 2 TB (2048GB), compared to a limit of 32GB for SDHC cards in the SD 2.0 specification."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SDXC
Most phones today have that SDXC micro SD slot.
>>55501426
>but can carry less, just like SSDs
Oh boy (Image related) I hope you meant to say "at first" and just forgot to.
>>55501445
>what are 3D transistors
Something you clearly know nothing about.
They don't magically reduce the amount of space required for something, they just enable you to get more circuitry layered on the Y axis, you'd still need to increase the size on the Z axis, not to mention that also introduced a whole slew of heat issues.
>Aren't smaller transistors supposed to produce less heat? But you're not talking about just making them smaller, you're talking about packing more of them into the same amount of space, whenever you increase the density of components occupying the same space you also increase heat generated. Why the fuck do you think the newest gaming PCs radiate like a fucking furnace when 20 years ago you didn't even need a fan on a top of the line GPU?
>>55501437
k
https://usadiscountwarehouse.com/shop/512gb-micro-sd-free-shipping-free-usb-adapter/?gclid=CKvWosSa6M0CFZOCfgod5RQPcQ
>>55501507
>Wrong.
Okay
Stopped reading.
>>55501460
Not him but V-NAND increases storage capacity by stacking memory cells on top of each other without having to shrink the transistor size.
It works so well that Samshit has been able to cram ~16TB of storage in a 2.5" laptop size SSD which you can literally buy right now.
http://gizmodo.com/samsungs-16tb-ssd-is-now-an-actual-thing-people-can-buy-1762536707
>>55501533
k what dipshit? $220 motherfucking nigger.
>>55501533
Fake as shit
>>55501533
This is why I never buy things that are not from Amazon and don't have verified purchase reviews. Fuck chinkshit.
>>55501548
>V-NAND increases storage capacity
And this scales infinitely? You can contain an infinite amount of memory in a given, finite volume? If not, then I said nothing wrong.
Also given that the subject is microSD cards, in the processing of changing the thickness/volume of them (in order to fit your precious 3D transistors), they will no longer be microSD cards.
>>55501516
> Why the fuck do you think the newest gaming PCs radiate like a fucking furnace when 20 years ago you didn't even need a fan on a top of the line GPU?
This is very true, and can also be easily seen just by looking at power requirement increases.
>>55501533
I bought a 256GB MicroSD for shits and giggles, it was only $29 on eBay. Dragged a 1GB file onto it and it took up 16GB space on it. So it was actually just a 16GB MicroSD and they just modified the hardware ID and data to display as 16x it's original size.
The beauty of it? These companies don't care. I refunded my money, they didn't care, they didn't even care I kept the MicroSD card. I ended up getting like 10 MicroSD's from them and I flashed them with a SanDisk 16GB MicroSD firmware and ID. I guess the amount of buffoons that buy these en masse outweighs the few that will notice and get a refund.
>>55501576
>And this scales infinitely?
Well no but this gives us more time until the tech technological breakthrough in data storage comes along.
>Also given that the subject is microSD cards, in the processing of changing the thickness/volume of them (in order to fit your precious 3D transistors), they will no longer be microSD cards.
Not really, stacking 128GB memory cell layers 16 times (ie 2TB) won't increase thickness by much. While the transistors would be ~20nm their thickness is probably less. However doing something like this would be expensive as fuck right now.
>>55501620
>Well no but this gives us more time
Let me say this one more fucking time so you can get it through your fucking head, YOU CANNOT FIT AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF DATA INTO A FINITE AMOUNT OF SPACE.
Because this is true, it must also be true that there is a physical limit on the size of transistors, and therefore my original statement was correct.
Don't reply to me or this thread ever again.
>>55501616
link?
>>55501533
Are these real? Can theyy work, not Chinese?
>>55501659
Search for the seller fvewekk84 on ebay, it's a Chinese seller from China
>>55501445
>skymeme
>faildozer
Are you incapable of talking like a normal person.
>>55501674
It's fake, it will be a 16GB or 32GB card. If you can handle possibly losing 60 bucks then buy it then open a dispute case and get a refund. Most likely you will be able to keep the MicroSD too.
>>55501680
all he sells are fucking buttons man
>>55501372
Irrelevant, you still can't put it into your 2016 phone.
>>55501685
>expecting someone on /g/ to talk about consumer hardware without spewing memes
perhaps you are unaware of the current year?
>>55501372
>How soon will we get 2TB micro SD cards?
Not MicroSD, but UFS for sure.
>>55501645
You first said "there is a limit to how small a transistors can get" which I understand and some anon mentioned 3D NAND. Nobody is saying 3D NAND will scale infinitely in a given space but it increases storage capacity with the same transistor size to an extent.
Also it's interesting that you mentioned that there is a "limit" to how small transiators can get. How can you be so sure? What if we do discover some quantum 4D ayy lmao tech and we keep shrinking transistor sizes more and more and never stop?
256 sd card is real
>where too buy , real seller pls?
>>55501703
see >>55501507
>>55501715
UFS is a massive meme. We already have UHS-II microsd cards which are backward compatible with UHS-I microsd card slots (found in 90% of modern smartphones. Max bus transfer speed is 312MB/s.
UFS isn't even backwards compatible with UHS-I so it's already DOA.
>>55501735
amazon
>>55501731
>Also it's interesting that you mentioned that there is a "limit" to how small transiators can get. How can you be so sure?
Do you know what a transistor is?
Do you realize that electrons have a finite volume?
>>55501735
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01G7L03OS
Looks like it's legit but holy fuck that price tag mang.
>>55501645
We haven't near reached the maximum amount of data/space we could possibly achieve. We're very very far from being able to fit a byte of data in the smallest measurable spaces, and even if we do who knows what might be beyond that. I can smell the fact that you're an engineer and not a scientist from a mile away.
>>55501533
Does someone has that picture of empty hdd case with flashdrive and two boulders inside?
>>55501769
>>55501756
>thanks
Godamb 200$ for sd
>>55501481
>It cannot be done
Not with that attitude.
>>55501773
I never said we were at the max, or near it.
Read what I wrote in CAPS again.
I never said anything about maximum data/space for all possible devices, only maximum data/space for transistors.
>>55501769
>>55501854
Still cheaper than iPhone storage. Do iPhones even come in 256GB storage variants anyway?
>>55501883
Like I said, what you wrote in caps is very far from being reached. Very very ridiculously far. And why do you limit data storage to transistors? Sounds like bullshit that your crappy engineer mind can't think past.
>>55501938
>And why do you limit data storage to transistors?
The discussion is specifically about microSD cards, and it's very contemporary (read the OP). So you can continue jerking off about "quantum 4D ayy lmao tech" and ignore this thread.
>>55501961
Don't see why we couldn't make something that fits an SD size and slot but uses different tech. Keep grasping for that straw I guess
>>55502042
Take note of the word "contemporary", you fucking mongoloid.
>Keep grasping for that straw
Ironic coming from the guy talking about getting infinite data in a finite space.
>>55502070
>>>55502042 (You)
>Take note of the word "contemporary", you fucking mongoloid.
Don't see why we couldn't achieve it this decade.
>>Keep grasping for that straw
>Ironic coming from the guy talking about getting infinite data in a finite space.
Who talked about that? You're weird anon.
How long until Intel starts a breeding program to create super-autists capable of actually understanding the insane complexity of modern microcircuitry?
>>55502087
>Don't see why we couldn't achieve it this decade.
Besides the fact there isn't even a prototype in existence? Nor are there any suitable candidates?
Yeah, I don't see any reason either.
>>55501765
Single electron transistors when
>>55501445
>Aren't smaller transistors supposed to produce less heat? Isn't this why 14nm skymeme processors are cooler than 32nm faildozer housefires?
yes. a single 14nm transistor consumes less electricity and consequently produces less heat than a comparable 32nm transistor.
if intel wanted to for example they can take a 2500k and release it on a 14nm die. pulling numbers out of my ass here, could drop its power consumption from 95 watts down to 35 watts and thus less heat.
or they could jam the space with more transistors, keep the wattage and heat production around the same, and increase performance as a result instead.
>>55501616
It happened to me, except that it was a branded as 128gb and it actually was 2gb only.
Asked for a refund, they asked me to give it back, to china, and id have to pay for the shipping.
Fuck ebay
>>55501481
>http://www.geek.com/chips/samsungs-new-512gb-ssd-is-smaller-than-a-us-postage-stamp-lighter-than-a-dime-1656836/
>>55501396
2005 was 20 years ago.
>>55502309
Buyer protection exists, you just need to prove you've been scammed.
>>55501396
fingerprint changed too
>>55501411
>there is an absolute limit to how small you can make a transistor
Make bigger cards and cram more transistors on them then.
>>55501372
>>55502840
2014 - 2005 = 9
>>55503362
Those things do come in 256GB variants.
Too bad that they aren't backwards compatible though.
After all the micro-sd standard is so damn big, that phasing it out is going to take some time.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10475/samsung-rolls-out-its-first-ufs-cards-ssd-performance-in-card-formfactor
>>55503417
I wish this was bait.
>>55501787
>>55503327
Ever heard of a regular SD card?
>>55501372
9 years initially to double 10 times. 2 years now and we've doubled once. Those stupid 200s were out for a while.
But it is a physics thing. Think about the degree to which standards must be raised with each doubling in capacity.
>>55501700
That's clearly all he ever sold.
>>55503362
>>55503544
Fuck off with this meme card. We already have UHS-II microsd cards we don't need shit nobody fucking asked for.
>>55502840
baka time flies
>>55504684
>9 years initially to double 10 times
>double
>10 times
Son, you are everything that is wrong with the world today and more. Go back to school, sit down, shut the fuck up, put the god damned smartphone away, and pay attention to the teacher and learn something.
>>55504811
How many times would you say you'd have to double 128MB to get 128GB then?
>>55504811
2014-2005 = 9
128mb x 2^10 = 131072 ≈ 128000
boo fucking hoo I'm off by 2.7% we're talking about roughly 10 orders of magnitude.
The difference in overall % progress per year is huge and that's all that startled OP.
Over a 200% increase per year went down to roughly 41%.
You make too many assumptions.
I used my phone today to play Scrabble with an old friend and message my family hours ago. Compulsory school on a Sunday? I don't think so. Any education on a Sunday would come out of my paycheck. Now I'm clearly relaxing on the weekend like you. Well perhaps not relaxing like you, because you react with nonsense like that to sound math which any functioning person could recognisz as a deliberately rough estimate for point of comparison.
Get your head out of your ass.
>>55501445
Bruh
What if the answer is not on transistors but in other stuff we cant even imagine
time is not linear so 2005 was almost 50 years ago :O
>>55501754
>UHS-I microsd card slots (found in 90% of modern smartphones.
I've always wondered this and it seems bullshit. No device I've owned got more than ~25mb/s read and write speeds even with expensive meme pro ultimate turbo cards.
