So, I want to try Linux, which one is the best?
LFS
>>55488616
Debian
>>55488616
Linux Mint
>>55488661
OP asked for the best, not for the worst.
>>55488616
Linux-ck or Linux-zen for home usage
Linux-grsec for servers
>>55488666
xD (You)
>>55488616
Arch
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Linux
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Only use Linux if you're an autistic gamer who does nothing but consume media spoonfed to him.
If you're creative and interested in how Unix actually works, consider Free or Open BSD.
just try any variation of ubuntu or debian
>>55488682
What's a screenrecorder app for *BSD?
>>55488616
Reminder that parts of Linux are proprietary and you should use a kernel that respects your freedom like GNU Linux-libre https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
>>55488700
I don't know. I don't run on X on my machines.
Look it up yourself or port/write it if it doesn't exist.
>>55488616
Do or do not. There is no try.
>>55488616
4.6.3 is the latest one.
>>55488719
>I don't run on X on my machines
typical BSDtard, recommends an OS that he doesn't use as his daily driver.
>>55488719
>I don't run X
Are you using a browser?
>>55488743
He has to look hip, you know
Ebin skiddies don't even need a display server XDDDDDD
>>55488616
Arch linux with unstable repos
>>55488673
He's right. If you're considering Mint then you might as well stick to Windows because you're just trying to have Windows on top of the Linux kernel.
>>55488661
Just use Ubuntu :)
>>55488747
>>55488743
It depends on what you mean by daily driver.
I do almost all my actual work during the day on FreeBSD.
I shitpost in OS X.
But if you retards could use DuckDuckGo, you'd realize you can record your screen activity with ffmpeg. The fact that I individually choose not to use X doesn't have anything to do with BSD's capability.
>>55488793
Come back when you have the balls to use BSD exclusively, mactard
>>55488669
>not using ck-sources/zen-sources/hardened-sources
>>55488616
XUBUNTU OR DEBIAN. IGNORE MEME DISTROS LIKE ARCH.
>>55488810
Where can I read more about this?
>>55488826
You are really upset at Arch. What's your story?
>>55488793
>OSX
thanks for confirming that you are just a giant faggot hipster faggot
>>55488807
why would I deliberately inconvenience myself to impress a bunch of /v/ migrants who have been using Linux for all of 2-3 years and feel like hard motherfuckers because of it?
If you want to use BSD 24/7, you can, and it'll be fine. Better than Linux. I use iOS devices and I like battery life, so I personally don't.
>>55488842
I really don't care. I've probably used Linux twice as long as you have. I just eventually came to find the combination of OS X and FreeBSD more productive.
>>55488833
The "KILLER FEATURE" AUR is nothing but a insecure git wrapper.
Arch is bloated: comes with all kernel modules enabled, packages include both, sources and binaries
Arch teaches nothing about linux, except how to copy paste guide commands
Pacman can't distinguish between free and nonfree packages. Why? Because Arch has only one repo.
And last but not least:
The community is trash. Nobody wants to be part of a community full of scriptkids who need to tell everyone, everyday how 1337 arch is
>>55488846
Really, mactard? Really?
You know full well BSD is a pile of garbage and so you don't even try to use it. Fits perfectly for a typical tech illiterate mactard that knows about Linux from browsing /g/.
People use Linux exclusively because it's usable, unlike BSD garbage you recommend people to look like cool skiddie that needs no X. Fuck off >>/b/
>>55488666
Trips confirm
Ubuntu is the easiest to get into but don't get it they are as proprietary as your mother, get Debian they have morals.
>>55488875
Honestly this. I love the gentoo pack manager if only it could be disto agnostic.
Reminder not to use Linux Mint (or any other based-on distros) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/
Stick to the mature quality distros like Debian, Arch or Fedora.
>>55488884
BSD's APIs are mature, stable, and the devs don't try to reinvent them every 5 years. It's far more usable and well-documented than any Linux distro will ever be.
Once again, the fact that I've split production and graphical responsibilities between two machines does not signify a flaw with either operating system. It only reflects my own preferences.
You don't actually create anything with your Linux box, so you never encounter the differences I'm talking about anyway. The most technical thing you do is change the theme to your tiling window manager. I don't know why I should even bother explaining myself to you.
>>55488875
>insecure git wrapper
It's just a git wrapper huh? Can you install Inox for me? or MPC-Qt? It's very easy for you isn't it? Post screenshots if you have the balls. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/inox/
>insecure
Hmm, someone doesn't know how to read pkgbuild
>How to install an AUR package? Press y-n-n-y XDDDDDDD
>comes with all kernel modules enabled
You can define exactly what module to disable/enable before running mkinitcpio
>Arch teaches nothing about linux, except how to copy paste guide commands
Yet it taught everything that debian/ubuntu didn't force me to learn
Also, PPA is way more unsecured than AUR ever will be
>Pacman can't distinguish between free and nonfree packages.
Not a freetard, don't even care
>Arch has one repo
Oh well here we go. What happens when you need to enable a repo because your garbage release model won't support your driver? What happens when the repos update to the same package versions? Is there any way to prevent package conflicts? NO
And your package hierarchy is a well known joke. Want to remove bloat games? Oh nice let me remove GNOME shell and X. Want to remove your email manager that you installed separately? Let me remove your desktop environment.
Fuck off
>The community is trash
No it isn't. We don't suffer from ubuntu reject prajeets.
>>55488957
>pajeet memes
Guess you forgot to attach a rare pepe to your post.
>>55488954
Fuck off with arch. It is a rolling piece of garbage. Get opensuse tumbleweed if you want a rolling distro that isn't trash.
>>55488957
Then explain how Arch is so different then Opensuse Tumbleweed and Debian Sid besides no graphical/ncurses installer and aur. Proceed.
>>55488983
AUR
>>55488616
Ubuntu Linux Mint or Manjaro. The first two are the most popular globally right now AFAIK.
>>55488616
There can only be one
>>55488616
KDE neon
its like a Kubuntu but with a better KDE
also KDE master race
slackware if your serious, debian or mint for general stuff
>>55488995
Please stop this Linux Mint meme. It's insecure trash.
>>55489003
Why gentoo over funtoo?
>>55488995
>Linux Mint
You shouldn't recommend a distro that needs to block updates so it doesn't fall apart to a newcomer.
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/tree/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate
(packages with 4 and 5 are considered "dangerous" and may break the system, included: the fucking kernel itself)
>>55488970
>Garbage Wiki
>Unstable
Haha no, sorry. Take your openpepe somewhere else
>>55488992
Fuck off and learn how to use git and install packages in the /usr/local/ subdirectories.
This is coming from a ex arch user from 2011-2013. It isn't worth the time dealing with the distro's instabilities.
>>55488616
The only distros that don't brainwash you with ppa and cross-release incompatibility bullshit is rolling distros. The only distros that allow bunch of independent developers operatively fix bugs in their libraries vithout waiting upstream approval for years is rolling distros.
Rolling distros is only thing that respects your freedom to install whatever you want whenever you want from any source you want to use. It's easy and elegant epitome of unix philosopy.
Arch is a meme because of it's pre-configuring autism and systemd.
So install manjaro openrc or gentoo/fontoo and be happy. /thread
>>55489062
Go on, install hpn-openssh and post proof fucking nigger. I'll see how long it takes. Try and learn how to use an AUR helper before spouting instability meme
>2 years of using Arch
lmao
>>55488957
>Not a freetard, don't even care
Why am I not surprised?
>>55489092
Took you a while to come up with a reply
>>55489084
>unix
>>>/apple/
>>55489086
Then I moved to gentoo. Still using it today on my laptop. My desktop is running Debian Sid and my old laptop is running Tumbleweed. Gentoo is times over better then Arch. Arch is a stale and unstable rolling distro.
>>55488702
underrated post, also /thread
>>55489014
please respond
>>55489130
Nice way to avoid ANY package I tell people to compile.
Everytime kek
windows 7 ultimate 64bit
DONT FALL FOR LINUX MEME!
>>55489014
Name recognition? Idk. I don't know much about Funtoo
>>55489155
Oh, welcome prajeet.
>>55488661
this
>>55489144
Wut?
>>55489156
Funtoo is the "new" project by drobbins, the Gentoo dev. Not sure if it's better or not.
>>55488793
It has a lot to do with your mental capability tho, since only a retard wouldn't use a display server to do actual work.
You're just a macfag in denial. It's ok, OSX is a very good OS if you're not bothered by proprietary software, but don't shit on something that actually works (linux) proposing your retarded edgy alternative that you don't actually use
>>55489167
I prefer Xubuntu over Linux Mint. It's alright. I would actually recommended (can't believe I gonna say this) elementaryOS over Linux Mint. Simply based on preconfigured eye candy and decent stability.
>>55489197
We can all agree that Crunchbang was the best distro and most chilled and based of all time.
How about fedora? Its nice and stable. Also easy to use and very uptodate. Plus: Its what Linus Torvalds
geez distro war already?
>>55489213
>His distro crashed as he was posting this
kek
>Fedora
>Stable
double kek
>>55489212
People will reply "install openbox tint2" but actually, that's all you need. Debian, usable out of the box and nice for the eye - works for old and newfags.
>>55489212
Agreed. How is Bunsenlabs nowadays?
>>55489213
It's redhat botnet.
>>55489213
It's alright. I use it as a small file server and for the cockpit full compatibility. If used as a desktop RPMFusion repo is a must.
Also the name implies tipping for mh' lady.
>>55489213
I like how Fedora cares about free software, but cares less about drivers so it runs on all normalfag computers.
>>55488616
Ubuntu for noobs
Arch or Gentoo if you want to fit in here
Didn't Red Hat work together with the NSA for SELinux? Why trust them and use Fedora?
>>55489277
I use both Arch and Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the distro that keeps disappointing me
>>55489246
Haven't tried it yet, I'm sure it's nice but the name sucks imho. I'm currently using GalliumOS 2.0 (xfce) with testing repo enabled on my dell chromebook 13. I'm actively trying to port chromebook hardware drivers/backlight drivers and keyboard support for the linux kernel. I like Gallium but I wanna install a different distro.
Korora is pretty good desu
>>55489284
Use the Ubuntu variants. And arch is a fucking meme. Gentoo is times over better then arch, trust.
>>55489314
It's Ubuntu server, no X. And still manages to break qbittorrent-nox
>>55488616
lo/g/os
>>55489283
>implying you can't view source
>>55489332
You know transmission has a much more mature web interface. I don't know about qbittorent. I made a transmission web serv with my old raspberry pi and it worked pretty well.
>>55489363
Uh, no. Transmission has objectively worse web interface (I used it before), deluge comes close but you can do almost anything with Qbittorrent web
>>55489337
What a great time. I guess we got about 500 logos for it.
>>55489373
I'll check it out, transmission always just worked for me. I mostly download via aria2 via cli nowadays.
>>55489084
What are rolling distros?
>>55489522
Distros which don't use different versions. You just update, update, update. It's rolling in your house.
>>55489539
Which ones are like that?
What about debian ?
>>55489571
Arch Linux, Debian Sid, more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_distribution#Rolling_distributions
Ubuntu is best but even then it's a pain in the ass OP to get something like Steam working.
It turns out there is a fucking glitch that prevents steam from opening up and you have to download a package that works around it.
THE BUG HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A FUCKING YEAR AND IT NEVER ONCE GOT PATCHED NOR HAS ANYONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT I HAD TO FIND IT ON A FUCKING FRINGE SITE
>>55489600
checked and thanks
>>55489621
>using Ubuntu
>ever
Why are there so many distributions? So hard to choose one...
>>55489671
The biggest difference between all of them are package managers and the desktop environment. Pretty much you just have to decide how involved you want to get and how customized you want your system to be. You can pretty much build your own distro from different options you like from each. Hence why there are so many.
>>55489708
But how can I choose wisely if I don't know that much about computers?
>>55489727
Well i guess you have to ask yourself why you want to switch to linux? There are alot of distros that drop you in a graphical DE and have very little guesswork, but at the same time some limit you to the way that particular updates/installs software or looks/feels.
Id say there are 3 teirs pretty much the ones that require the most learning/work to build but ultimately let you build it however you want (lfs,slackware,gentoo,arch, some others), ones that you can start right away but gives you options to delve in it which are pretty good (manjaro, debian, redhat) or ones like ubuntu which is pretty much as "windows" as linux gets and dont really let you do as much.
That said there are alot of fanfare between distros and you just have to look beyond the bullshit and choose based on what works best for your needs/curiosity
>>55489727
Watch youtube videos.
The good thing about Loonbugx distro's are that they easy to get rid of. Where Windows is a big process to start and end, something like Mint is simple,fast and easy to install. If you fuck up just download another distro and try something else.
Learn something like Ubuntu or mint first, then move on to Arch or Tip your fedora at fedora(assuming you want to move)
Mint is nice but ubuntu is easier. You must understand too that Though they are easier to install than windows, getting it up and running to the way you want it is where the work is.
Things like flash,.swf files, video games and windows program will be gone, unless you decide to use WINE (Lets you use windows programs)
If you are going to use WINE for everything though you might as well keep Windows though in a duel boot format.
>>55488616
just use ubuntu
>Linux has no bugs
>Nether does OS X
>>55488616
hackintosh
>>55489893
Your bed has no bugs
>>55489727
seriously, please don't listen to the other guys and choose ubuntu. Its just pretty much where everyone points new people and microsoft users to go because its easier and kinda because they don't want to deal with them i think. If you try linux try a little bit of a challenge or distro hop but I think pointing everyone to ubuntu as the baby-tier starting point kinda cripples peoples understanding of how to use anything else. Just my two cents
>>55489924
>>55489940
There's something some people don't get:
GNU/Linux isn't Windows. If you use GNU/Linux the way you use Windows, you're doing it wrong. There is no point in switching to Ubuntu if you don't value freedom or want to learn how the new system actually works. "Just install Ubuntu" is stupid, since Ubuntu doesn't give you anything more user-friendly than any other distro with a newfriend-friendly DE.
My 2¢.
>>55490030
s/Ubuntu/GNU\/Linux
>>55490030
This post feels like a ploy. like "im with you" -> strawman -> other post against presupposed strawman.
But that said, yeah ubuntu is horrible as far as security is concerned, and open source software is nice.
>>55488956
>Typical BSD faggot
"If you don't use BSD then you're an idiot"
Gentoo is far better than BSD. Just accept it.
>>55489144
People aren't going to install software they will never use only to prove you wrong. You're just a retard. Git > AUR
>>55488616
Another bottom of the barrel /thread
RPM? I can use that on Gentoo if I want to
Pacman? I can use that on Gentoo if I want to
BSD kernel? I can use that on Gentoo if I want to
ect.
>>55488616
Linux from Scratch
>>55488616
ARCH LINUX is the best powerfull linux distro
>>55490635
>>55488616
4.6.3
The LTS kernel is what I recommend
xubuntu/ubuntu etc . debian. manjara or antergos
There is no bets. it's which ever you like or wanna do nigga.
NOW SCRAM
>>55488702
It offers great freedo
openSUSE Tumbleweed or Fedora Rawhide?
>>55488661
Windowsfag here, i just spend a week trying to get Linux Mint to work on my fairly standart desktop pc. I didn't succeed.
I spend more time fixing shit than actually doing anything, really.
WHO /2.6/ HERE?
>>55490767
Freedo is Linux-libre's mascot (like Linux' Tux)
>>55489014
There is no reason to use funtoo over Gentoo nowadays because there is a git gentoo tree now so you don't have to wait forever for tree syncs.
I used to use funtoo but the only advantage was the git tree. Other differences include:
• the pre-build Debian kernel which gives you bloat but also I suppose makes it more likely to work out of the box (I don't like it because using a binary kernel in a source distro seems like haram)
• slower upstream updates of portage tree (not tremendously slow. just like a day or so sometimes because they're just cloning the Gentoo tree into their repos once a day)
I used to shill funtoo here but it's not worth it now that gentoo reverse engineered the git tree.
Oh, funtoo also has that flavor shit but it's basically just gentoo's eprofiles with a meme name.
>>55488954
>Mature
>Arch
kek. I haven't seen a shitpost this good in a long time.
>>55490755
>manjaro
>antergos
kek
>>55491215
Guessing since they're new they wont know how or want to install arch
Mint Cinnamon.
>>55489940
You people are the reason why Linux isn't more widely adopted. Most people don't give a shit about configuring, distro hopping etc, they want something that just werks and doesn't require them to make any choices. Ubuntu is perfectly fine for that. Microsoft should be dead already but there's still no alternative for noobs because of shit like this.
>>55489727
tldr: just use Ubuntu.
GNOME
>>55488616
Gentoo or bust
Not even memeing
>>55488702
this t b h fa m
Gentoo if you like source-based distros and want it to be easy to keep the system usable while also keeping it pretty well clean of cruft and you dont like systemd (uses openrc)
Debian if you are a librefag and/or like stability and security and binary packages for every program ever written (also need to be ok with systemd)
Slackware if you like the simplicity of runscripts and sysv and you like source-based distros and you like vanilla packages and basically pure vanilla Linux (inb4 Linux is just a kernel). Don't really expect it to be beautiful.
LFS if you like absolute control over everything that happens in your system
NetBSD if your hardware is old
OpenBSD if your hardware supports it and you're a cryptofag
OSX if you're a gay artist
Don't use the Amazon botnet distro or its derivatives.
Don't use the Windows clone distro. Don't use really new distros nobody uses (i.e., void because runit is great, but void's getting into the game too late because someday soon non-systemd distros will be in an untenable position).
Don't use Arch or its derivatives either. Nobody has any argument for it except "AUR" and AUR is a shitty unmaintained collection of links to git repos for meme wms.
>>55488682
>>55488846
>use BSD it's great!!!1!1
>I don't want to inconvenience myself to impress
>>55491161
>Meme name
Stopped reading right there
>>55491333
>You people are the reason why Linux isn't more widely adopted
Stopped reading there because you're retarded
OP here, now I'm confused.
AntergOS
All the features of Arch without the autism
>>55491652
*even more
>>55488682
I wholeheartingly agree, BSD brother
>>55491652
gentoo > arch > fedora > shit > debian/ubuntu meme
enjoy getting cucked into no games
>>55488616
Linux
>>55490994
You should probably kys.
>>55488681
this desu senpai
>>55488682
I fell for that meme already.
>>55492087
>>55488747
So a bsd cuck AND a mac fag.
Noice.
>>55488875
>dat community
How long ago were you an Arch user, and how long do you think it will take before you're no longer a giant douchebag?
>>55488970
Keep trying to stretch your boundaries. Remember arch is for competent users.
One day you will succeed.
>>55489009
>distro is insecure.
>You mean the website was insecure.
>>55492095
saved
Void Linux
you can even clone the repo and compile your own packages to help with the development
>>55488793
>OS X
Wanna make out?
>>55492179
It's not only that Mint devs are to incompetent to secure their website, they're also to incompetent to build a distro without the need to hold back packages that are "dangerous"
read >>55489035
>>55492237
You can't figure out how to click a radio button?
btw,The kernel update interface has tabs and columns that list regressions and security fixes, if any, for each available kernel version.
>>55492321
>b-but you can turn it off
Windows user mentality.
A good operating system shouldn't have such defaults.
I mean, it's not like that there aren't better distros that don't break at kernel updates.
>>55492321
install ubuntu + cinnamon faggot
there's no need for show-off distros like mint except for showing off
Mint is aimed a noobs.
Having safeguards against pebcak issues is a plus.
Fuckups are more likely if you blindly update every new kernel version, whether it has security fixes or not. If all your hardware works, what's the point of updating every latest version?
It takes a special kind of moron to take a good feature, and see it as a bad thing.
>>55492237
>>55492321
Now it's not even like that, it's much simpler, pic related.
>>55492346
>Windows user mentality.
A big difference is that microsoft screws their users with a clear purpose and they still don't care, in case of mint is because is a relatively small team. If you can't grasp the difference and you still compare both as if it were the same thing you're beyond any help. The thing is still that you can just check the "give me all updates" button and that's all.
>>55492382
>ubuntu
I don't know which is worse, a fragile, worthless distro like Mint or a distro made by Microsoft partners, who lie to it's users and tried to spy on it's users like Canonical.
>>55492454
>Don't break my computer
Your arguments are invalid.
The best is CentOS/RHEL but Ubuntu is probably good for noobs.
>>55489283
SELinux is part of the Kernel. Good luck trying to avoid it.
Let's pretend mint has cautious defaults because it's fragile, rather than the devs are trying to protect noobs from themselves.
I'm getting familiar with linux on lubuntu, simply because I think it looks great right out of the box.
What are the potential shortcomings or drawbacks of lubuntu that I'll likely encounter once I feel comfortable enough to abandon Windows, if any?
>>55492616
You may be flamed on 4chan for using buntu.
>>55489621
>it's a pain in the ass OP to get something like Steam working.
I literally typed 'sudo apt-get install steam' into the terminal and it works just fine.
>>55492500
Seriously, most people don't fixes their computers by themselves, they pays someone else for fixing it and this distro is directed at the same kind of user as windows. You may say that ubuntu is directed to that same kind of people too and they don't need to implement those kind of protections, but consider the linux mint team is small compared to the one which crafts ubuntu. If by any means you somehow feel proud by the fact that you know how to fix your own computer and that's your only argument then you're not understanding what you're talking about in the first place.
>>55492710
What's the point of choosing GNU/Linux if you're going to install the same proprietary cuckware like on windows but with less support?
>>55492740
and somehow Ubuntu is universally derided here, while Mint is pretty well liked..
>>55492755
To prove that cuck he's wrong
I literally just installed it at this moment to see what the fuck he was talking about.
>>55488616
Start with Ubuntu, it's the easiest entry point and most user-friendly Linux distro that just werks, for the most part.
Just don't take the Ubuntu experience as a representation of the Linux experience as a whole. All distros have their differences and Ubuntu has some serious problems and annoying glitches. I'm only recommending it because it's easy to start with.
Get familiar with terminal commands, how the filing system works, installing programs through the command line, etc., then once you've had enough, dump it and try a more quality distro.
Final piece of advice: With all the hundreds of Linux distros it took me months to find the one that was right for me. But it was worth it to finally find one that was perfect for me. Don't settle for one that just "kind of" suits your needs, try a bunch until you really find one that meets your needs to customize and work efficiently.
>>55492755
>what's the point of going on a diet if you're going to eat ice cream once a month
>>55492798
topkek
>>55492794
>Linux distros
>wake me up inside
>>55492841
GNU/LINUX IF YOU PREFER YOU AUTIST HOTPOCKET MAN
>>55492769
>and somehow Ubuntu is universally derided here, while Mint is pretty well liked..
The only thing i get from your post is that you're intolerant to other people opinions. By the way, i think you made up this claim in order to justify why you made your other argument.
>>55488666
Hello Satan.
>>55492937
That's literally the only post I made in this thread.
I don't care what you use, I'm not religious about software. The point I was making is that it's ironic that the people here make fun of Ubuntu and its users, accusing them of being neophytes, while Mint gets a pass in that regard. I don't have strong opinions about either of them.
>>55488634
Debian is pretty nice.
Do not attempt any distro other than Fedora, Debian or Ubuntu as your first distro.
Mint is also easy but it supports less software and its support community is much smaller. You'll get the same results as Mint but with more and better support by installing Ubuntu, then either MATE or Cinnamon as your desktop environment.
>>55491516
There's no other way to describe it. It's just the same thing with a stupid name.
Inb4 this was a joke because everybody stopped reading right there because they were the last words
>>55491624
>Stopped reading right there
Stopped reading right there.
>>55492144
The community is bad because of Archfags with autism like on /g/. (In other words, people like you.) The community post /g/ autists is worse than it ever was before.
>>55491696
How cute.
Samefag has an imaginary brother.
>>55492321
>It's insecure by default but you can disable the "features" that make it insecure
top kek
>>55493013
>That's literally the only post I made in this thread.
oh, then sorry.
>I don't care what you use, I'm not religious about software.
Your post tells me otherwise though.
>The point I was making is that it's ironic that the people here make fun of Ubuntu and its users.
This is not a nice place to make this kind of claims, it's an anonymous board, you cannot know who said what (as you pointed to me). If you care a lot about not getting offended i'm not sure if you're lurking in the correct place.
>while Mint gets a pass in that regard
Mint and their users are attacked a lot in this board, but that's only from my own POV, because same as:
>and somehow Ubuntu is universally derided here, while Mint is pretty well liked..
It cannot be proved or disproved in a proper way. For me you're an hypocrite because you're siding one side while ignoring or lacking information.
>I don't have strong opinions about either of them.
Ok, but consider what i said, some people sees this as a tribal war and getting mixed into that making claims like that will only make you see as an hypocrite.
>>55488628
this you niggers
>>55493176
Take a deep breath, nigga. It's gonna be okay.
>>55493210
You clearly don't care anymore about the original topic so if at any moment you can provide a reasoning about the original topic instead of caring about which OS users offended which OS users make me know.
Debian Sid?
> up to date
> nice community
> cares about freedom
> nice, blob free kernel
> one of the oldest distributions
>>55488702
Reminder that most modern hardware requires proprietary parts to function optimally.
Freedom *with the best performance* requires buying freedom-respecting hardware. https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw
>>55488875
>The community is trash. Nobody wants to be part of a community full of scriptkids who need to tell everyone, everyday how 1337 arch is
Oh, so it's a self induced inferiority complex, i see.
A distro that won't steal your time. Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSuse, Debian are all good.
Avoid Slackware, Arch, Gentoo and any obscure meme ones at all cost.
>>55493251
The only problem about Debian for new users is that getting non-free software requires changing your repository settings manually. This seems little to regular GNU/Linux users but it's a stepping stone for Windows/Mac users. Ubuntu allows you to do that by just checking a box in the installer. But at the end of the day, you haven't learned anything.
>>55493296
Doesn't the installer ask if the user wants to enable nonfree? Not sure anymore, it's been a while.
>>55493285
No, it's just rejection of autism.
I would be grudgingly willing to be a member of a community full of faggots like you if Arch were actually better, but there is no reason to use Arch.
>>55493320
At least for firmware.
>>55493320
I've installed it recently on a VM and I don't remember it prompting me for that, but I might be wrong. Ugh!
>>55493251
Sid needs to be enabled manually. AFAIK the user only gets stable by running the installer.
>>55493286
Ubuntu is Amazon botnet, OpenSUSE is an obscure meme that nobody uses, and Fedora is shit with a shit package manager and no benefits other than somewhat up to date repos.
Debian is good, but so are Slackware and Gentoo. Arch truly is shit.
So there's no babby distro without any flaws?
>>55493334
>No, it's just rejection of autism.
In your case it can be considered an auto-immune disease then.
>The community is trash. Nobody wants to be part of a community full of scriptkids who need to tell everyone, everyday how 1337 arch is
Independently of our opinions on arch i don't even know what are your tastes in general and still i can say you're a faggot based only on your posts tho.
>but there is no reason to use Arch.
It's interesting how people linking something you don't like affects you this much.
>>55493320
No, but it does let you install non-free firmware from an external drive if you manually download it. It sucks at recognising the external drive with the firmware though.
>>55493398
Nope.
>>55493416
Fedora is not that much of a babby distro. Also why would NSA paranoids be afraid of it? It's literally free software: The OS.
>>55489600
https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/
>does not get security updates in a timely manner
>subject to massive changes and in-place library updates
>can result in a very "unstable" system which contains packages that cannot be installed due to missing libraries, dependencies that cannot be fulfilled etc.
Woohoo
>>55493411
Nobody has linked anything yet to my knowledge. If you can link "something", I'll look at it.
>>55493436
Same with any rollling distro, wise man.
>>55490604
Psh! What about .deb? Scrublord.
>>55493434
Fedora is a really baby distro. Have you never used it? I installed it the other day because I never had, and there is no reason to use it over something like Debian. The repos are barely stable but they're also full of pretty old software. Meanwhile the package manager is slow as fuck.
>>55493436
To my knowledge, the only distributions that never push risky updates are RHEL, CentOS and Slackware.
>>55490604
You had me all happy that a gentoo user had made a post until I saw "ect". Y y y y
>>55493384
>Ubuntu is Amazon botnet
Freefags like this will waste your time. Don't listen to them OP.
>>55493472
Yeah but it's based on RHEL. Fedora is great when everything works, but when things stop working, it's a fucking nightmare. There's also less proprietary driver support for RHEL-based distros.
>>55493506
Yeah the repos are small as fuck.
>>55493498
It kind of was demonstrated to be an Amazon shopping machine, but if I'm not mistaken, uninstalling Amazon and installing another desktop environment fixes all of that.
>>55493429
I used the installer for the first time yesterday, and it was pretty easy detecting the firmware.
Just search the name, download the .deb file to the root of your drive, plug it in, and it should work fine.
>>55493446
It's good to see that pointing at a typo is your last resort.
>>55488616
Definitely Ubuntu for beginners. There are a million guides online for just about any problem you could have. It's easy to update and use. You'll rarely have to touch the command line and if you do it'll be copy and paste from a help page. It has a software center where you can install apps with one click. It just werks.
>>55493646
A million guides made by tech illiterates who tell newcomers how to install cowsay.
>>55493646
>It just werks.
I wish'd this meme would finally die. It's shit and has no substance. "It just werks" means to me "It's made for retards who don't want to learn and don't care about anything". No wonder this "It just werks" is a Apple slogan.
A working system is a system you are able to use, which means that you know your system and you can't know your system by clicking buttons that "just werk".
>>55493646
>teaching people how to join the Amazon botnet
ok
>>55493384
Bunk. Amazon search is easy to disable in Ubuntu and it's not even enabled by default anymore. OpenSUSE is actually one of the biggest distros in user numbers after Ubuntu, Fedora, and Debian.
Gentoo
>>55488875
BTFO
Arch kids on suicide watch
>>55488634
no not this
>extremely outdated software that doesn't work
>>55488661
>Linux Mint
this desu
>>55490573
Is it because you actually can't install it? kek
It doesn't take much effort to compile and remove a package
>>55493924
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
>>55493646
>>55493748
It's nice to know what you're doing and to have control, but it's also nice to have things just work out of the box, with little to no configuration.
Why can't you idiots see the happy middle ground?
>>55493924
>b-but I disable it
t. brain melted microsoft victim
>>55491176
my god that man is so handsome
>>55493026
It is half a joke
Calling everything a meme loses its meaning
>>55494103
>install arch
>reboot
Where's my GUI?
Fack.
>I'll finish setting it up tomorrow
>>55496057
Here's your GUI:
$sudo pacman -S cinnamon lightdm && systemctl enable lightdm -f
>>55496057
FFS
Look at what you nerds did.
A non-initiate literally fucking installed Arch. Now he's going to be stuck figuring out every step towards making it a system that is usable in the slightest, and he's going to come to us for support.
Good job nerds. Next thing you know you're gonna make a Macfag install gentoo and they'll ask us questions for every step towards having it set up with a DE and a DM.
>>55496071
>Installing a DM without a DE
What does it do once you're logged in?
>>55496071
Nah I think I'll try Ubuntu. Thanks though
>>55488776
Exactly, that's a great thing.
>>55488616
>one
all of them are the best
>>55488793
>DuckDuckGo
Did you mean Startpage?
>>55488616
Seeing as this is /g/, it will be an unnecessarily complicated autismofest.
>>55493082
>Archfags from reddit
It's a cancer.
>>55488681
This but only if you have decent knowledge of the terminal
>>55490635
ahahahahahahaah
10/10 bait
kys
>>55488666
The Dark Lord hath spoken. Ave Sathanas.
>>55489173
>Not sure if it's better or not.
It is. None of these faglords will admit it though because the meme distro is Gentoo and they'd lose their meme "WIZARD" status. Gentoo is shit and that's the humor of the meme. Newfags and autists took it literally.
install Gentoo.
Seriously tho, it really depends on what you wanna do with it and how much experience you have etc
>>55491176
Jesus, he's sexy!
>not a single freedom OS has been posted
>>55488616
Any *buntu flavor, but not Ubuntu.
>>55499260
Trisquel and other meme OS'es have no drivers.
>>55498991
I was wondering why /g/ doesn't have a chart or anything but then I remembered that there's a wiki.
Now I'm surprised no one said read the wiki
Unix
>>55499657
fuck off macfag
