http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-490-dual-gpu/
>polaris is a disappointment
>no worries! we just put two of them together!
>>55479321
>wccftech
When are you faggots going to learn?
>only Vega card we know of was reported to have 16GB of HBM2, way too much for 490 price range
>Illuminati tier wccftech conspiracy
>AMD's history of incompetency
>AMD
with all the retardation theyve done, its possible.
>>55479673
>390 is faster
>polaris is slower
AMD
>>55479738
What were you expecting? It's a $200 card.
>>55479321
>wccftech
stop posting indian shitting forums
it's beyond embarrassing that ATI even still exists
>>55479738
Considering 1070 gets 52fps average in that test I say they are doing pretty good :)
>>55479673
this honestly looks like an nvidia false flag
>>55479321
because surely amd never released dual gpus
oh wait they do regardless thats why the radeon pro duo is the fastest card currently..
>>55479738
aren't 390s still like 500 bucks
>>55479321
Wow, so another 295x housefire hot garbage that is crippled with compatibility issues and doesn't work well in over half of the time, requiring a ton of hotfixing and that's IF the game even supports it.
>amd
lol
>have owned both 7970 and 290
>have been AMD fan for last few years, so I was rooting for them this generation
>but they're still fucking trash
what's the deal? how can AMD be consistently so bad lately? they can't compete with Nvidia in efficiency, performance, drivers.
>b-b-b-but Nvidia Gimpworks!
yes yes gameworks is trash, but if you're an Nvidia user, you get the benefit. I don't know why you'd buy AMD over Nvidia right now. 1060 will cost more, but I guarantee you it'll run cooler and be an easier card to live with
290 is my last AMD card unless they sort their shit
>>55480136
7950cuck here. Probably going to pick up a 1060.
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>>55480136
>how can AMD be consistently so bad lately?
hardware is a VERY expensive business, and they have no money
t. 270 moving on this year
>wccftech posting garbage speculations about oced 480 reaching 980 Ti/1070 performance
>AMD retards keep spamming this shit for whole month before release just so they can take their words back.
>wccftech posting speculations about 490 being garbage
>"S-stop linking wccftech! When will you learn anon."
AMDrones are closest to what I would call a subhuman.
>>55480136
My last 2 amd cards were 4850 and 6870
The 4850 was a piece of shit with constant driver faults and a buttery cool 100'c under load
The 6870 had zero driver issues, ran at 60'c but drew a shit ton of power.
Non of this matters when the alternative is Nvidia 3.5 featuring planned obsolescence
>>55479321
>currytech
>>55479804
but that's the only reliable source for indian shitting hardware
>>55480190
Yeah now the narrative is that it's Nvidia falseflagging.
It's really hilarious to see mental illness and autism at these levels.
>>55480190
>Being an Nvidia fanboy
>not realizing that being a fanboy of anything is a mental illness.
>>55480974
>fan boy
>Nvidia objectively makes the superior product and this is acknowledged by the market and it's 90+% market share
>It's mental illness to point out facts.
>>55480003
So fucking glad I bought mine when it was on sale with tax and shipping @320 burger pounds
>>55481003
its worse than I thought
>>55480136
nvidia gimps their cards hardware to get that sort of power efficiency. Its why they cant do Async.
>>55481038
Wow you sure showed me with your logic and facts.
>>55481003
>90% marketshare
Only because of prebuilts using the GT whatever Nvidia has at that moment.
AMD switched to APUs for their low end so no need for discrete gpu
>>55481102
>only because
>970 is the most used card on steam
nah
>>55481069
Why should I even bother, If i show facts that contradict what you're saying, its not like you are going to change your mind. Instead, you are going to scour the internet for any piece of information that contradicts my claim. In turn, I will do the same and we'll both be doing it for an unknown amount of time and nothing will be settled.
>>55481155
do you seriously believe gaymurs are that huge of a market?
>>55481003
Yes, I agree completely friend. I only ever buy NVIDIA™ as nothing else even comes close. If you don't then you won't play it the way it's meant to be played™ and have the best gaming experience, only offered by NVIDIA GeForce Experience™. As a minimum I recommend that you purchase the Geforce® 970 4GB* graphics card that offers the best value and graphical fidelity on the market today! There's is only one choice.
*Memory performance may vary. Terms and conditions apply.
>bi GPU
I think you meant DUAL GPU.
Also shitsux if true
This is exactly in line with what Kyle said. AMD tried to make a high end card, failed, and is now marketing it as a mid range card. Of course since they couldn't make a true high end card this generation, Vega is jus going to be two 480's slapped together.
>>55481356
>Desperate Nvidiots resorting to Kyle's tinfoil hatting
>>55481187
You are talking about enthusiast cards right now right?
>>55481376
Kyle was literally right about everything else though. The 480 has almost no selling points besides price, and it runs hotter than the competition's cards. Kyle isn't a fanboy either, he said AIB 480's will overclock well. Would he do that if he's so biased?
>>55481399
>I'm totally not a shill! See, I said one good thing about AMD!
>>55481421
The tinfoil hat has switched places. I swear, you could stub your toe and blame those darned Nvidia shills.
>>55481376
>1060 wont support SLI
What the fuck? What reason do they have for this shit?
>>55481399
>The 480 has almost no selling points besides price,
Yeah, good thing money is no object for most people.
>>55481434
When you write an article that goes as retarded as to say Raja is going to sell AMD to Intel, you're probably shilling for someone.
>>55481399
Kyle is supposedly a fanboy who's changed sides nearly every generation or article. Both sides claim he's a shill. But anyone with a brain think he's fairly neutral.
>>55481447
It's written on the bottom right
"Just buy a 1080"
>>55481447
Why would you want SLI on a budget $300 card? Look at the GTX 960. Literally nobody uses it in SLI because it's more expensive than a 970 and performs worse. It's probably the same scenario with the 1060.
>>55481066
this has nothing to do with async you utter retard
>>55481485
Nvidia cant handle Async due to hardware issues.
>>55481447
Probably because dual GPU solutions have a bad user experience. Nvidia doesn't want some idiot to buy two 1060s to think they're going to get better price/performance than a single card solution, and then getting frustrated with all the flaws of SLI and hating Nvidia for it. They only want people who know what they're doing to SLI, which would be people buying two high end cards because they need more performance than any single card solution offers. I don't blame them after how much AMD hyped up the two low end cards meme.
>>55481456
>to say Raja is going to sell AMD to Intel
ONLY the Radeon group, you lying anti Kyle shill.
>>55481515
>Removing options and customization is a good thing because you're just too retarded
Literally Apple tier logic
Are Nvidiots the new Applefags?
>>55481540
It is retarded, but trying to SLI/Crossfire low end cards is just as retarded.
>>55481492
no, they chose not to as a trade off, there's only so much die space on a chip
Simplified Multi GPU support for DX12 man oh man, Nvidia is dead.
>>55479321
>the RX 490 is just a bundle of two RX 480s
>>55481492
>Nvidia cant handle Async
The 10xx cards introduce a new hardware scheduler, which solves the async compute issue. The fact that you're perpetuating this old meme tells me that you're an AMD shill.
>>55481532
It's still absolutely tinfoil-on-head retarded to think he could even possibly do that.
>>55481567
Nvidia will disable it at the driver level. It's a non-issue.
>>55479321
I wasn't even planning on getting one but that's disappointing. Crossfire is not good. And the 390 was such a good price/performance card.
So how long until there is a RX 480 model that uses 8-pin or more, and can be overclocked?
The Rx 480 thus far performs worse than expected, the cooler is ass, no one is selling them at MSRP. Aftermarket cards might be better but they might be sold at an absurd price range literally competing with the GTX 1070 but only on price. The actual card is such a piece of shit that overclocking might be risky because Raja never thought that using half and half power resources might had not been a good idea, even the new patch which displaces some of the load on the 6-pin connector which is still an unsavory solution compared to using a 8-pin from starters (Despite claims from this board that 8-pins do nothing at all) only forces to have both power sources set over the recommended limit, I.E not because you can means you should, both draw over 67w (PCI-E) and 80w (6-pin) respectively.
By the way I am a paid nvidia shill, I am taking this break off from shilling on reddit to shitpost here. I can convince my employers I am doing overtime too.
So how is it that an elitist board like /g/ support AMD latest scam? Unless you are inf act just pitiful, pretentious contrarians...but that could certainly not be the case.
So how is Arch treating you, niggers.
>>55481590
>So how long until there is a RX 480 model that uses 8-pin or more, and can be overclocked?
literally a week or 2
>>55481590
>So how is Arch treating you, niggers.
We use Gentoo, you meme spouting fuck.
>>55481590
>So how is Arch treating you, niggers.
Better than your Win machine for everything that isn't Vidya
>AMD cant make a high end gpu
>Sticks 2 gpus together and hopes it works
This is what Raja meant when he said that crossfire RX 480s would equal a 1080...
So, who do you guys think AMD will be sold to? I'm betting Samsung.
>>55481611
That picture is, just..
top kek
>>55481590
>So how is Arch treating you, niggers.
G-Good look how great it is
never had a problem with it
>>55481590
>overclock
Hahahaha underage poorfag, did mommy refuse to buy us a real GPU like 1080? hahahaha Enjoy your basement
>>55479321
How the fuck is AMD still in business? I will literally celebrate when AMD dies.
>>55481714
#rektandburried
>>55479321
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>>55480003
Yeah but they're re brands of 290 s. Bought my 290x for 240 euro, exact same card as the 390x, even including the faster memory. In half the games tested the 290x beats the 480, power use a full hundred watts more though
>>55481718
I'll laugh about, you wonder why a low end CPU will cost 500 shekels and you could buy a car instead of a low end NVIDIA card. Beside all the other bad shit that would happen.
Nothing is good about a monopoly.
AMD should get their shit together, so we don't end up with NVIDIA and Intel in control of the whole market.
>>55480051
Yeah cross fire drivers and game engine support are hit and miss but it won't be a house fire considering it will be 200 watts less than the 295. I'd still get a 1070 though
>>55481841
>should get their shit together
They can't, they can't spend as much on R&D as those two can without a magic wonder product to save them. They're still reeling from bulldozer a decade later.
>>55479321
Just what the fuck??? Not again...
>>55481767
>>55481714
Stop samefagging, that was a weak comment t b q f h f a m
>>55481983
I do not trust the number 480 after you know what.
>>55482010
>implying
>>55482052
>Ti
>>55479875
Underrated post. Why AMDfags post this bench and it's alawys the same filename. Polaris is a shit desu.
It would be phenomenal if either of these GPU companies could figure out how to get two chips on the same card working flawlessly.
You know damn well AMD hasn't though.
>>55481452
>>55481399
>The 480 has almost no selling points besides price
might as well have said
>anything besides dual 1080s has no selling points besides price
>>55480623
>>55479321
W H Y ?
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>>55482092
Jesus, whatever face that guy's making is funny
>>55482220
So you're saying AMD shouldn't compete on things like power efficiency, driver optimizations/support, Gaming Evolved releases, etc etc? Because believe it or not, a lot of people care about things other than just raw performance. G-Syng/freesync are a product of these companies competing on more than just price. Defend AMD in its current state all you want, but at the end of the day, AMD's current tactics are why their market share and revenue are so shit.
>>55482092
>Gabriel Iglesias gets a 980ti
>>55482234
because there are more poorfags than not in the world.
>>55479321
>RX 480
>Beyond HD gaming
It matches a 390, which already struggles in 1440p
>>55482368
That's sad because we really need more competition...
>>55482281
To be fair, they've been pretty good this year so far in driver releases. So, there's hope for them yet there.
They've pretty much ceded the power efficiency end to Nvidia though. They may see some performance gains from all the shit they pack into their GPUs with DX12, but there's no way GCN will ever be as efficient as Nvidia's offerings. There's nothing they can do about that now until Navi and a new architecture in 2018.
>>55482281
honestly, i'm not defending amd at all here. i haven't picked sides since i was a gaymur kid. for me, i've just been picking the more attractive price/performance for my parts, with certain features second. unless the 1060 btfos the 480 out price/performance or somehow saves more than a few cents per day during idle, then my next card will be a 480.
Just needs moar cores...
>>55482427
i think AMD is doing exactly the right thing at this point.
they don't have that much money and with big install base of poorfags they are going to have shit tons of money for actual drivers and R&D
>>55482383
470 brilliant sub 60fps hd gaming (or maybe 720p gaming)
>>55479804
DESIGNATED
>>55479648
i'm sure you can cook up something better right?
they should hire you ceo.
>>55479738
>new gen midrange card is almost as fast as high end last gen card
sounds good to me.
>>55482720
That comment was on par with a shitty mspaint diaperfur artist on DA saying all criticism is null because we cant draw better than him
>>55482542
If it weren't for the PCIe bus power issue, the 480 would be on track to be the highest selling card since the 560Ti. Because of AMD's oversight, they kind of blew it. Now people are putting serious consideration into spending $100 more on a 1060.
>>55482740
>390
>high end
It barely matched a gtx 970 which was Nvidia's midrange
I guess its high end for a shitty company like AMD
Do you faggots not understand that multiple GPU's are the future?
>>55482815
Yeah just like moar cores were the future in 2011
>>55479327
This.
Fucking reddit babies and /v/ retards seriously
>>55481356
amd tried to make a high end card with a silicon the size of r7 370?
if they succeeded nvidia would be bankrupt.
>>55482756
I'm actually very curious about 480 sales numbers. something tells me it's doing fine even with the controversy.
>>55481777
>use available silicon to make a stop gap card
>finished
yea, everytime right?
>>55481172
4chan in a nutshell the post.
>>55482756
>$100 more
It's $10 more.
>inb4 but my MSRP lies
None of the aftermarket rx 480s are $199/$249 either. Granted, we only have official pricing info on one, and it's 10£ more expensive than reference, but this is how its always been with the only cards being MSRP are shitty blower cooler ones. The cheapest 1070s and 1080s are both $20 over MSRP, so if the 1060 is also $20 over MSRP, it'll be $270 aka on par with aftermarket 8gb rx 480s since the stock cooler on the 480 is so cheap, I highly doubt any good coolers will be MSRP for the 480. The price difference will be nowhere near $100, it'll be closer to $10-$20 for equivalent coolers.
>>55482338
LMAO
>>55479738
>150w card is as powerful as a 250-300w card
>>55482885
>hurr $10
The founders edition, the only to be sold at launch, will be $299 MSRP.
You can buy an 8gb 480 for $199.
>>55482885
>All this shit talking about the reference cooler
Under 80 degrees with 49% fan speed, faggot.
>>55482924
Why 16nm Nvidia card are faster?
>>55482924
ARE YOU RETARDED?
AMD is so fucking incompetent, with the shit they're pulling they deserve to go bankrupt now
>>55482938
>the only to be sold at launch
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10474/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-1060-july-19
>However this is where the similarities end. Unlike the GTX 1080/1070 launch, the 19th is a hard launch for both the GTX 1060FE and for partner custom cards, and NVIDIA is expecting the bulk of the cards sold to be these custom cards.
>>55481814
>Yeah but they're re brands of 290 s
False. If 390 and 390X are rebrands then all Pascal cards are rebrands too.
>>55482953
because they have more shader units and faster speeds?
14nm =/= faster than every 16nm
it's just size of smallest component.
>>55479321
Kek!!!
480 was a 7770 of the 7 series and they released 2 lines behind it?
How low can you go amd? 7670, 7500
>>55482815
The future, not the present.
>>55482815
Yeah just like eating shit is the future. I read it on reddit.
>>55482999
But the Polaris efficacy is poor tho...The same that Fury.
>>55479321
>dual motherboard fryers on 1 card
This is gonna be one hell of a show.
>>55482979
>factory overclocked
>double vram
>not rebranded
Oh sorry not rebranded but ''''''refresh'''''
>>55483176
1) Manufacturing process optimizations allowing AMD to increase the engine clock by 50MHz on both 390 and 390X while maintaining the same power envelope
2) New high density memory devices allow the memory interface to be re-tuned for faster performance and more bandwidth
· Memory clock increased from 1250MHz to 1500MHz on both 390 and 390X
· Memory bandwidth increased from 320GB/s to 384GB/s
· 8GB frame buffer is standard on ALL cards, not just the OC versions
3) Complete re-write of the GPUs power management micro-architecture
· Under “worse case” power virus applications, the 390 and 390X have a similar power envelope to 290X
· Under “typical” gaming loads, power is expected to be lower than 290X while performance is increased”
Meanwhile Pascal is literally just Maxwell on a new process.
>>55483205
>1) Manufacturing process optimizations allowing AMD to increase the engine clock by 50MHz on both 390 and 390X while maintaining the same power envelope
They add more/better voltage regulator module on the PCB but it's the same fucking GPU.
>2) New high density memory devices allow the memory interface to be re-tuned for faster performance and more bandwidth
The VRAM is faster but it's the same fucking GPU.
>3) Complete re-write of the GPUs power management micro-architecture
But it's the same fucking G _ _.
Stop your damage control, it's a rebranded Hawaii.
>>55483205
>1070
>7.5
Yeah...
>>55483205
>390/390X have 8GB VRAM and other than that the improvements are so minor they may as well not exist
>AMD's fancy new power management was so shit they had to add a toggle in the driver to disable it because it caused stutter
>this is somehow a worthwhile new gen, despite being essentially the same shit with almost 0 real-world relevance
>Pascal is much more efficient and much faster
>this is "just" Maxwell on 16nm
>very significant real-world improvements both in efficiency and performance
I have 290X CF, but you fanboys are fucking insane.
>>55479321
Rx 490 = 2x Rx 485 CF
Reference watercooler
33590 Rupees
>>55483507
>>Pascal is much more efficient and much faster
efficiency is entirely from the die shrink, per core performance is slower but clock speeds are much higher.
980Ti clocked to 1500Mhz is as fast as a 1080 clocked at 2000Mhz
AMD is actually finished for real now.
>>55482338
>>55482238
That's Joker you idiots
>>55484949
Who the fuck is joker
>>55484949
kek
>>55481187
what is 15% out of 100m?
390 is in second place as far as I remember at 6-7%
so yeah, it is a least 35% of company income
Can the RX490 handle Overwatch at 1080p 60hz?
>>55485647
Stay on funnyjunk faggot
>>55485668
? I main Reaper.
>>55481570
They have confirmed they still shedule async tasks using software so no your full of shit.
Chill out guys it has been established that 480 is just an extremely reference design.
It perforns of and smears the 980 unter additional power above reference TDP and in 1500MHZ overclock.
There have been reports of 480 beating the shit outta 980 in Gayworka games.
>>55485769
>extremely reference
Extremely shitty obviously.
Raja jus cut too many corners with that 199$ thing, he went TOO CHEAP.
>>55479321
>wccftech
>>55482815
Xfire is shit. What Raja seems to want to start up is proper multi GPU like with how everyone runs two to four cores on their CPU nowadays. When APIs like DX12 get configured correctly like in the AotS meme, you can get marvelous results. For example, you can pair any GPU with another since it's all a giant pool of resources. What's really neat is that Moore's law still scales well with smaller chips like Polaris. It was a shitty way to showcase it during the RX480 reveal, but everyone would like GTX 1080 performance for $400. It would be a great future for everyone since an enthusiast card would just be multiple smaller chips on one card. Still, It's not happening anytime soon, I'd give it at least 4 years.
>tfw you got a job and got the money
>need to upgrade from that 6850
>the reference has no DVI and is a shit
>still no less than two weeks of waiting for the non reference one
>>55485769
How much does AMD pay you on an hourly basis to post these blatant shill posts?
>>55482740
if 390 is high end what is fury x
>>55485827
>dvi
>2006+10
just get a new screen
aftermarket cards should have dvi im fairly sure
>>55485826
What i always wondered is why they just cant have 1-4 gpu cores on the same die like the early quad cores from say 2009
Heat and cost and space would be an issue though
>>55485843
I am paid 500$/month, and it's a good pay for a beginner where i live.
>aftermarket cards should have dvi im fairly sure
I know, the thing is that the waiting already feels like the burning itch in my ass, I CANT FUCKIN WAIT, it's maddening.
friendship over with lisa
jen hsun is my best friend now
amd on suicide watch
>>55485859
>What i always wondered is why they just cant have 1-4 gpu cores on the same die like the early quad cores from say 2009
I am certain this is the future.
The bigger the chip, the harder to make it.
Eventually they'll just go with a lot of small ones.
>>55485928
>this is the future.
Navi
>Scalability
I think this is what scalability means.
if they can make a gpu outta a lot of small dies to work shit's gonna be crazy, you can split them apart for better heat dissipation and they will be DIRT CHEAP with great yilds.
>>55480190
you know what is the most funny part?
its already as stock near your 1070 on dx12 pretty sure a highly clocked card will just pass it at ease
>>55481356
surely because amd is dumb enough to replace 380 with 480 and call it a high end
i bet its like the ones that are already saying 980 is an old card lel
>>55485889
welcome to cuckvidia where a year old nvidia card cant play any new dx12 game
>>55485948
they gonna put 2 chip into the interposer and cut out the middleman (alx chip) effectively they gonna bring back what 3dfx failed horribly to do
>>55482885
First off the 8GB 480 reference is $230, not $250, second the Sapphire Nitro 480 is apparently $240, not $260
You put some thought into this shill post though so 5/10 for effort. Best I can do.
>>55485948
Isn't HBM2 next gen memory? What's navi got?
>>55485840
How much does Nivdia pay you on an hourly basis to post these blatant shill posts? Or perhaps they pay for per post?
>>55486258
Who knows?
Maybe they will get you 16GB l2 cache.
It's always AMD introducing new cutting edge technologies to the market.
because ythey are unable to polish the older tech.
>>55481841
Buying a car for around 500 sheckles. You will get the same thing, Itll overheat and die like the gpu.
Fucking hell the attempts some people make to justify buying this bag of shit.
Just post, im poor so I bought a 480
>>55481003
>Nvidia objectively makes the superior product and this is acknowledged by the market and it's 90+% market share
You're either retarded, shilling or both. Either way, you should kill yourself. The only thing "objectively superior" about Nvidia is their PR.
>>55481399
>>55481356
Threadly reminder that Kyle is a butthurt faggot who should off himself.
>>55486886
So who makes the best gpu's? Also what are the best sellers
>>55486911
Nvidia makes the superior GPUs at the moment.
However AMD makes great value for the price and is a best seller because it offers enough for a good price.
>>55486946
I thought the 970 was the best selling card
>>55486975
See here >>55485783
Preorder for rx480 beath orders for 1080 and 1070 and even 970 off the shelf
970 is cheaper and ready to ship tomorrow but people are buying 480/
>>55486258
hbm is one thing
hmc is another
when's the 1070 gonna be going for reasonable prices like the 970?
>>55479321
> new abstraction layer for game developers to utilize for multiple GPU support
> According to Microsoft, with only “very little” code adjustment, DX12 titles should be able to implement basic multi-GPU support."
https://github.com/Microsoft/DirectX-Graphics-Samples/issues/173
Give it a year or two and every game released will have good multiGPU support. In 5 years it will be perfectly normal to have dual GPU systems just like it is perfectly normal to have quadcore CPUs
>>55487021
Probably because the majority who wanted this range have got the 970 as its been out for two years.
>>55487033
never.
Nvigia is increcing the prices with every generation.
>>55486946
>static cores
>static software sc
>unable to do hardware async in general
>unable to do hardware casting
>unable to do ray tracing on hardware level
>doesnt have any hardware sc
>superior desing
lol if nvidia didnt had gameworks and their pr they would have never gotten this far
also i gotta admit the previous ceo of amd was the one to blame for the fall.. he literally stopped them to introduce the primitive discard accelator back in 2013....if amd had it on tahiti things would probably be still on 55-45 as it was back then..
>>55486946
why do i have a feeling that you just pulled that out of your ass? let me also try:
in most cases R9 300 wins against GTX 900 mostly due to AMD (slowly, but still) releasing decent drivers for them, while Nvidia has released a new line of cards and is ready to gimp their old cards to make the new cards seem like they perform much better. at the moment AMD is playing catch up with their response to 1080/1070 coming out by the end of the year hopefully
>>55487064
The point is 970 WAS a best seller, 480 IS a best seller. Maybe people who ran 970 will even switch to 480 when 8 GB will become mandatory minimal (very soon)
Mirrors edge and DOOM with nightmare shadows need a lot more than 3.5/
>>55487033
doesnt have much to do with your question in detail but you can understand as to why nvidia always increases their price
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
>>55483205
Oh ffs my 290x is late generation and it has the same clocks as the 390x including the vram
>>55487093
>why do i have a feeling that you just pulled that out of your ass? let me also try:
I am with the red camp, but i aknowledge that there's no single red gpu that can compete with 1080 at the moment not even in red games such as hitman. except for Fury X and only in 4k in very select few titles.
>>55487101
remember the doom3 with ultra textures it needed a 512 mb card lol and it was killed both nvidia and amd cards back then
>>55487101
no you dont go sideways when changing gpu, you go up. Most will and are doing the 1070 or looking at the 980ti.
I went 970 to 1080
>>55487145
>you go up
custom 480 working at 1400Mhz is significantly upwards from 970, probably not worth upgrading to from 980 but from 970 maybe it is.
>>55487173
its already on par with 980 on dx12 on stock..
>>55487199
>its already on par with 980 on dx12 on stock..
it beats 980 in Witcher 3 without hairworks.
With hair it still beats 970 by a mile.
Wtcher 3 is dx11.
>>55487199
>dx12
yes we can talk about Dx12 but you cant mention Tomb Raider as thats an Nvidia game right?
>>55487028
HMC lost.
Also its worth pointing out AMD bought a company called Nexgen back in 1996. They might be resurrecting the company. Sp the slide saying Nexgen instead of "Next gen" might not be a typo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexGen
>>55487218
does it?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-7.html
That shows the 980 winning. Not counting overclock, as they havent got any other cards there clocked
>>55487225
stock 480 4gb performs about the same as 970 Twin Frozr at 1350.
And 4g 480 is an extremely shitty ref card.
Look at this cooler, now think what it can do with a real cooler.
>>55487218
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,21.html
Another one in case you think Toms Hardware is favourable to Nvidia.
Wheres the 480 winning?
>>55487101
The 970 is already better than the 480, it's pretty hilarious.
The 480 is one of the worst video cards of all time.
>>55487225
i could but then again i would have to add gow and qb
>>55487231
there is a memory called nexgen tho althought if amd got this one and they will introduce nand memory on their cards well i dont know lol (tho this could be nice buffering the whole game
>>55487241
>That shows the 980 winning.
As does these:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,21.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/20.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-7.html
>>55486886
The sad truth is that Nvidia's cards these days are better than AMD's in every way.
AMD simply cannot compete anymore.
>>55487243
some guy streamed an overclocking session with his and he got it up to 1410 MHz with a water cooler. he had to modify the card with some capacitors though (in an attempt to draw more power from the 6-pin than from the motherboard)
>>55487241
>does it?
970 is overclocked by aftermarket vendors and had drivers updated for 2 years.
480 4gb is the worst reference design to ever see the light has not been overclocked.
Overclocked 480 8gb beats 980 even on reference PCB which is still limiting maximal power delivered to the GPU chip at 180watt.
it goes 1400 at 1.105Volts.
Maximal voltage for 14nm finfets is 1.35 Volts but the ref PCB won't allow that.
>>55487277
proof? technical proof..
>>55487255
>Wheres the 480 winning?
In overclocking.
all other cards are in custom design, 480 is a shitty ref on those tests.
>>55487284
>970 is overclocked by aftermarket vendors and had drivers updated for 2 years.
Let's get this straight. You are claiming that the reviewers are overclocking the 970 for their reviews and not disclosing that information?
that shit is RAD
http://imgur.com/gallery/3HJwu
>>55487288
Just look at 1060 vs 480
Nvidia 1060 is faster, uses less power, produces less heat, runs cooler, doesn't overdraw power, has much better drives - all for the same price as the 480.
AMD is just a second rate company.
>>55487288
He hasn't got shit. Remember "every way" covers more than he thinks it does.
Don't worry, this pic doesn't count because something something something muh Nvidia.
>>55487296
do a 480 oc vs a 980 oc then.
>>55487277
RX480 was engineered to be cheap.
RX 480 serves it's purpose.
It competes with every 199$ Nvidia card and even with more expensive ones.
>>55487300
Yes, I'm sure those Nvidia marketing slides are 110% accurate.
>>55487298
Techspot or Techpowerup (one of the two) does - they use aftermarket cards but do not list this on their charts. They only mention that they use AIB cards in a tiny paragraph at the start of the review.
>>55487300
>Just look at 1060 vs 480
Is NDA lifted?
>>55487300
obviously because we have so many reviews of 1060
oh wait
no sorry
just another paid shill
>>55487298
>You are claiming that the reviewers are overclocking the 970 for their reviews and not disclosing that information?
I am claiming that they aren't using reference 970 and they don't even hide it.
Whoever makes GPUs be that ASUS MSI or anything has already overclocked them out of the box.
Reference 970 runs at 1050mhz.
Whoever gives a test without explicitly stating that he runs his 970 at 1050 is using it at OOB manufactorer overclocks.
>>55481155
I'm sure they totally understand what they bought and didn't just buy what ever they thought was "the good one because XYZ said so" you-know.. like flashy blinky lights and Ailenware builds.
Pic related.
>>55487325
>They only mention that they use AIB cards in a tiny paragraph at the start of the review.
Link?
>>55487325
The two links I posted were not from them
They were Toms Hardware and Guru. Basically I called you out and you were wrong,
INB4 overclocking.
Also this video of a 480 hitting 1500mhz do you think everyone wants to butcher a card like this?https://youtu.be/Jq47qmwcus8
Daily reminder that Kyle was 100% right
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>>55487306
>vs a 980 oc then.
Every test you see is 980 MSI Twin |Frozr or Strix which is already overclocked by the manufactorer.
>>55487347
this shit will always happen..
when nvidia brings a card its ref vs ref
wnen amd brings a card its ref vs aib
just like the frame latency test it was fine to use it till amd fixed their shit on 2014... then no one used it anymore and we get to see shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnFv8cnjZA
hopefully now that amd snatched the nvidia pr head they will able to pull some shady shit too
>>55487370
>polaris has problems will launch on october
>polaris wont pass 850 mhz
>raja will coup lisa and steam rtg
bang on literally
>>55487376
The 480 is factory overclocked you fucking idiot.
>>55487365
>do you think everyone wants to butcher a card like this?
Considering the temperature on water is just 60C i will be OK with a good air cooler at 80C
As for additional power wires it will be solved by vendor providing a proper PCB with a proper power circuit.
I expect custom rx480 to go from 1400 minimal to 1600 with extreme tripple slot coolers.
Power color Devil are promissing more than 1500
>>55487395
what?
Elaborate...
>>55487395
since when? its 1080 base clock 1266 boost clock...
>>55487337
What NDA?
>>55487395
Reference cards by definition aren't factory overclocked, retard.
>>55487395
>The 480 is factory overclocked you fucking idiot.
It's a reference you dipshit.
REFERENCE is THE ONLY card which is not overclocked.
Reference 980 had 1200 boost clock
All those custom cards have it at 1400
Can't wait for my 1600mhz aib 480's that smoke the 1070 and get within 1 fps of the 1080
fucking rekt nvidiots LOL
>>55487429
the one that doesn't allow reviewers to post reviews until certain date even tho they have the card.
>>55487437
>>55487442
The truth is that the 480 has gone through many revisions. The early versions were not meeting their performance goals, so AMD basically factory overclocked every single 480. That's why it suffers from so many power issues, runs so hot and overclocks so poorly - it's already overclocked.
>>55487429
>NDA
No Disclosure something, ehm what was it No Disclosure Anus probably.
>>55487466
>The truth is
So, show me the proofs, or are you pulling the good old faecal matter out of your posterior?
>>55487466
that's why people have 2000mhz oc's right now, right? >>>/v/ nvidiot shill
>>55487466
>that the 480 has gone through many revisions.
Are you talking GTX480 or what is this bullshit you say?
We're talking about AMD RX 480 FFS! not Gtx 480/
>>55487458
we already have one aots run on high preset with low settings...
its 1 fps behind 480
but since its guru3d they will probably add 5-6 fps more
>>55487466
No, it's clocked high. That does not make it overclocked, retard. Just like 4790k isn't factory overclocked despite being sold at higher clocks than 4790.
>>55487471
>>55487458
I didn't ask for an explanation of what an NDA but whether or not there is one for the paper launch. It seems to be simply a lack of review samples to go around. Anandtech noted how this raises questions about supply.
>>55487478
>>55487485
>>55487486
It's actually true. You can even see the number of revisions done on the 480 through GPU-Z.
>>55487487
HAHAHA NVIDIA IS FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
>>55487485
>2000mhz oc's
On a 480? The best I've seen is in the 1400 range. Got a link?
>>55487499
>for the paper launch.
It has only been announced, not even launched yet.
>>55487499
yes there is, here is your cringe dose for today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_DUIzxErXc
>>55487493
Just a matter of semantics.
AMD is running all 480s at extremely high unstable clocks, which makes it run too hot, use too much power, and gives it poor overclocking headroom.
You can call it factory overclocked or you can call it just releasing an unstable card, whatever woks.
>>55487509
overclockers forum has people with 2000mhz oc smoking the 1070 by leagues, many of them do, in fact 90% of them are getting oc's even better than that...
nvidia also can't even dx12 LMFAO
nvidiots BTFO
>>55487485
So anon explains to you how products are produced and you call him a shill as hes answered it logically.
You are seriously deluded
>>55487493
the best we already have seen is a 1500 on a loosely watercooled card
pretty sure it can go higher than this with a proper ek waterblocks
>>55487522
>overclockers forum has people with 2000mhz oc smoking the 1070 by leagues
Where's the link I asked for?
>>55487519
>Too hot
I am rocking GTX 780 ref cooler, shit runs at 88C and it always did, since when is this "TOO HOT!!"?
>>55487509
This is the mentality of AMD buyers
>>55487519
>AMD is running all 480s at extremely high unstable clocks
False statement.
AMD is running 480 at an extremely low quality reference card and poor cooling.
Reference 480 is far away from it's real potential, it's limited by a horrible cooler and poor pcb.
Custom 480s will be a lot better than what we can see with those refs.
A LOT.
>>55487524
n/v/idiots belong on >>>/v/ this is an amd board
>>55487519
are you seriously saying this bs?
is 80c too hot? whats the gtx 480 or the 590 then? sun like hot?
yes no headroom lets see
nvidia has a headroom of 455 mhz so far
amd has a 400 mhz so far
i bet they are unstable pathetic too hot bla bla
is the overclock headroom the new perfomance to wattage meme by paid shills?
>>55487519
Except it's neither unstable, nor too hot. You're just retarded.
>>55487559
>amd has a 400 mhz so far
Another such claim. Got a link?
>>55487589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq47qmwcus8
>>55487598
What is the baseclock? 1266 and they get it to 1500? 1500-1266=400?
>>55487618
baseclock is 1080 boostclock is 1266
