Is this the worst video card of all time?
yep
They have having issues pushing the updated driver out kek
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10469/amds-tuesday-radeon-rx-480-update-new-driver-by-late-thursday
>>55441096
as an AMD fan: yep the reference RX 480 is pretty shitty.
That's why i don't buy reference models
>>55441127
this
>>55441119
fuck sake
>>55441119
get out of here nvidiot
>>55441096
No, but adjusted for scale and time of release., yes.
>kills MBs if you overclock
>970 gtx performance
amd is ded
>>55441119
Rather them take time to make the drivers rather than kill GPU's.
>>55441165
Oh boy someone criticized AMD, let's call them nvidiot. Your kind of shitposters including above mentioned meme master are why /g/ has become such a shit board.
>>55441119
such a fail amd pushed back A DAY for not releasing a driver
meanwhile
nvidia releases constantly drivers that just burns down the cards and they dont even test them obviously
>>55441222
it's a 200$ GPU, not 400$.
But yeah the power issue is a thing and makes it pretty shit, but Nitro RX 480 seems to have a 8-pin connector so maybe that will help.
>>55441096
worst launch at least
>>55441119
they're asking for volunteer driver testers in reddit, probably they're trying to make a market survey on quality of the gpu's undervolt-ability. I'd hate to work at AMD now.
that would be the gtx 750
>>55441248
>AMD not releasing a driver
That's unheard of.
>>55441260
Except I can't find the 480 RX anywhere for $200.
>>55441270
so bad...
meanwhile back in reality
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/
>>55441284
That's because the reported price of $200 is pre-VAT. You can thank US for that retarded thing.
>>55441260
>$200
Try $350
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=rx+480
>>55441270
>they're asking for volunteer driver testers in reddit, probably they're trying to make a market survey on quality of the gpu's undervolt-ability
This, they got the review cards out and tested in the hope people wouldn't notice the problem. Now they have to admit to gimping the production cards. This is a lot wore than the last half gig problem with the 970s because the cards you got were performing just like the test ones, these are going to have to be downgraded for system stability.
Not sure what you mean. Nvidiacucks have been crying salty tears especially when the Rx 480 has shat on the 980 a few times.
Then they tried pointing out how it was going out of PCI-express power draw spec despite the fact that nvidia cards have drawn up to 300W from the slot and that no crisis of dead motherboards were ever reported.
To make matters worse, undervolting the GPU a tiny bit improved performance and reduced pci-express power draw thereby shitting on the GTX 980 even harder.
Now nvidiots are so collectively butthurt I'm shocked no one has been stuffing coal up their asses to make diamonds.
>>55441335
im suprised that 480 is doing so well on that dx9 masked under dx12 game
>as powerful as cards 100-200$ more than it
>uses the best graphics card software on the market
>a few of the games it didnt overperform in will soon be patched with vulkan and it will overperform on them too
yea, its easily one of the best cards ever released.
>>55441313
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20601203818&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30
Remember to check other sites aswell.
>>55441096
It's only good because it's cheap.
In terms of performance it's on par with a 970, a two year old card on a much larger process.
AMD's architecture is years behind
>>55441335
Oh wow it has better performance on some shitty AMD optimized game.
>>55441299
nice try pajeet, searching amazon with rx480 brings up plenty of results with prices over 300$
>>55441335
>every single AMD comparison is with last generation nvidia cards
>1080p gaming
>LITERALLY KILLS THE MB IF YOU OVERCLOCK
>>55441377
Performance and efficiency
>>55441313
The card is selling like hot pancakes and the card is going out of stock too fast. So companies are temporarily upping the prices. Big deal. Just wait a few weeks you little shit.
>>55441380
>many
>4 of them only
>>55441378
>>55441382
Ahh so this is the butthurt about anon was talking about. Interesting.
>>55441378
>amd optimise
>being a nvidia xbox 360 game
>paid shill just lost his job
>>55441394
If anything other than raw power matters to you then you have no business buying a graphics card to begin with
Since when people started using flops as a measure for performance? Isn't it meaningless between different vendors?
>>55441096
this is worse
>>55441418
Do you think the people laughing at you for being so fat when you're shopping on walmart are also butthurt?
Do you consider any form of ridicule to be butthurt?
>>55441374
That's funny, I'm looking to buy something now not give my money to someone for the hope of them sending me a card sometime into the future maybe.
>>55441448
shhhhh
let them sleep
>>55441399
>wait
I'll wait for the 1060 thanks :^),
>>55441458
Sounds like you should go to a shop with a physical location.
Happy price hunting!
>>55441473
>192-bit memory bus
>4 TFLOPS
>3GB vRAM
Do you have a cuck fetish?
>>55441418
Butthurt about testing a current gen card with last gen card with a technology no one uses yet? Kek how delusional.
>>55441473
Even though i'm an AMD fan i'm actually waiting to see what 1060 brings to the market aswell.
Buying my GPU probably on about 20th of August.
>>55441490
>go shop at a physical location
Nah, I'm good with my internet options, I'm not driving down to the store to be told it's sold out.
>>55441502
>Cuck fetish
>More ram for futureproofing!
>DX 12!
Nah those things aren't for me, I'll stick with playing the 99.99% of games that are DX 11 and the majority of games which will be console ports for at least the next 2-3 years when more awesome stuff will be around for cheaper.
Bought the 4GB version for 219€ to upgrade from a 6970.
Can run most stuff at 60FPS on ultra/1080p, I love it
>>55441534
You could call the store?
>>55441539
>AMDfags
>literally 1080p gaming
>>55441260
implying a 6-pin isn't enough
>>55441553
Well it does have power draw issues, small capability of frying a cheap mobo, and overclocking just boosts those problems, so 8 pin would be better probably.
>>55441543
>call the store
It's sold out across the internet unless you live in bumfuck nowhere and they happen to have it in stock somehow and the jews haven't bought them all to resell on amazon you're fucked.
That and the fucking fact that the shitty reference cards run at 90c and fry your motherboard and I really wonder why AMDumbs go to so much trouble.
Just a tip: I own an rx 280 and a gtx 970, I only buy what I need when I need it because I'm not a retarded consumer dumbfuck
> MFW the next AMD card is going to be worse.
460 2GB GDDR5 lol you best 800x600 gaming card for 10$.
>>55441096
Yes.
>>55441552
What's the matter
>>55441597
>I own an rx 280 and a gtx 970
>I own a gtx 970
>I'm not a retarded consumer dumbfuck
kek
>>55441553
If it's enough why are these cards drawing more power than the PCIe spec allows?
>>55441609
>some autist actually drew this
>>55441614
I bought a GTX 970 at launch and it's still within $50 of the purchase price now. I can literally sell it used for $220 and get most of my money back
>>55441631
Is that the 970 that after the 3.5 giggate still performed exactly as advertised? Will the 480 do that after the gimping?
>>55441645
Yup pretty much, the benchmarks at the time I purchased it haven't changed. It plays my games good and it's 2 years later and still better at most things than an AMD newly launched card.
Can't complain really.
>>55441284
230 in Nl, thanks to the 22% tax and such
My experience;
Fallout 4 - crashes a lot (could be mods)
Wolfenstein Old Blood - terrible artefacting and tearing on low settings
GTA V - crashes on anything other than safe settings. Massive stuttering in the benchmark tool
Going back to Nvidia, at least with the huge userbase I'm more likely to find fixes
>>55441313
A M A Z O N
do you want to pay too much?
>>55441581
go ahead please tell us how the 1060 will do on dx12
or you plan to keep buying cards every year?
i guess if you are a nvidia paid shill you might so go ahead
>>55441682
so go to newegg and find page after page of backordershit?
The reason it's so expensive is people are hoarding cards.
>>55441096
>Is this the worst video card of all time?
Have you ever had a look at NVIDIA's own 480? I take it you haven't.
>>55441119
>AMD
>Driver issues
Surely you jest.
Seriously though, it's like I'm living in memes now.
>>55441701
Why are you shilling Microsoft DX 12 like some sort of golden god?
Game devs haven't adopted it at all and don't look to be doing so as long as this generation of consoles exist. You're literally looking at playing Microsoft First Party shovelware and some exotic indieshit nobody cares about. Even some of the purported DX12 games run better on Nvidia.
Can we stop with this future performance meme?
Buy cards now for what you need now.
The cards supply only gets better and prices only get better for cards both AMD or Nvidia.
Please reject retarded consumerism and 'fear of missing out' by pajeet shills.
>>55441270
I barely passed High School algebra but at this point I'm pretty sure I could get hired as an engineer at AMD.
>>55441380
Those are resellers senpai.
The RX 480 is out of stock everywhere except resellers who jack up the price, hence the review bombing.
>>55441701
fuck dx12 and win10
Who's faster under vulkan- AMD or Nvidia
>>55441669
There's probably something fucked with your system specifically, AMD's drivers have some serious issues but nothing like that shit.
>>55441767
So basically you're saying you can't get it anywhere right now for less than $300
ok thanks.
>>55441631
That just proves there are people dumber than you.
>>55441367
>Overpriced
>Underpowered
>Blows up your mobo
>AMDs answer to the greatest video cards ever made
>>55441778
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
However, I'm not sure how that has any effect on AMD when they clearly did what they said they would, and the reason the price (in the us at least) isnt 200 is because of cunts jacking up the price because of poor supply.
Hi, /g/
I'm finally making a switch from console to pc.
Any recommended parts I should put together for a new PC?
>>55441787
Really? I'll take that every time over some imagined market that AMD fanboys exist in.
>>55441729
>have a 480 GTX
>still performs well for most games at 1080p
Other than running hot that card isn't bad
>>55441800
There were literally swathes of AMD shills saying for ages that the RX 480 would be plentiful compared to the 1080 at launch and there wouldn't be reseller jewing.
>>55441808
Not an AMD fanboy. They haven't made a good card in a long time.
Doesn't mean I won't make fun of you for being proud of buying a defective product.
>>55441807
i5 4690K + Rx 480 + 500W corsair PSU for playing 99.99% 1080p vydia on maximum settings and getting 60+ FPS.
>>55441833
If defective means works flawlessly then defect me up baby!
>>55441842
He's building a new rig and you want him to fry his mobo?
Buy nVidia.
>>55441843
>970 GTX
>works flawlessly
That's some cognitive dissonance you got there anon
>>55441833
>haha 0.5GB of RAM
Eh, the only people this affects is retards. If you own the card it really doesn't change anything. I could have returned it for a refund but I couldn't find anything else at that price point that performed as well anyway. The benchmarks didn't change and literally affected maybe 1-2 games which I didn't play anyway.
So basically if you're concerned with epeen it would have affected you. Otherwise I really don't get what the big fuss about the 0.5GB being slower is.
>>55441849
>highend mobo due to buying overclocking cpu
>fry mobo
that's not some asrock cheapshit mobo
>>55441842
>corsair
>4690K
kys desu senpai
>>55441865
>only retards use more than 3.5GB of memory
>>55441776
yeh well I'm returning the RX 480 and I've ordered a 1070
>>55441855
Sounds like you've never used the card. Literally works without a single flaw.
>>55441096
Yes, AMD is literally the worst company of all time. They sell 8GB vram models of the 480 and then lock 4GB through the software and call it 4GB model. D9d they really think people wouldn't buy the 4GB model and then flash it? Are they literally retarded? Why not just sell 8GB for a cheaper price until you have enough of the 4GB models manufactured?
>>55441849
I love this meme. Can you tell me where all the dead motherboards are from people using the GTX 960 and overclocking it please?
>>55441892
No, only retards are going to pretend it affects anything.
>>55441901
Well they don't exist because nVidia products are superior in every way.
>>55441127
Only reference cards I ever bought were two Palit 970's, and they were actually really good, never had any problems with anything and they OC'd nicely.
Funny thread.
But seriously can non references cards have 8pin connectors? I expect they can't have double power connectors which would be fine for some. I would always prefer the extra power pins for stability whether it was actually ever noticeable or not. Be it on the 4/8, 20/24 motherboard or 6/8 PCI-E power connectors.
Most people don't have micro builds, they have stupidly large and expensive cooling and overkill power supplies.
I may have missed the warranty registration period for my ASUS Max Ranger 8 board so I can't afford to lose it to a chipset fry and don't like things that only work because the drivers prevent it from breaking itself or other components.
>>55441669
Have you tried under-clocking and undervolting slightly to improve stability?
Maybe this dick-ed can teach you http://youtu.be/nWDgrAQ678g
Don't try the below article by the way.
https://www.techpowerup.com/223913/amd-retail-radeon-rx-480-4gb-to-8gb-memory-unlock-mod-works-we-benchmarked
DOWNLOAD MORE RAM with the new digitally physically upgradable RX 480!
>>55441902
So the massive performance drop when using more than 3.5GB of memory doesn't affect anything?
Whatever helps you sleep at night dude.
>>55441895
OK?
>>55441879
What's wrong with them? Corsair is a reliable PSU brand and skylake turned out to be a huge meme with a higher TDP and lower single thread performance with like 1% better multi-core performance.
>>55441935
http://wccftech.com/sapphire-rx-480-nitro/
>>55441917
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>55441951
you're literally telling someone to build a computer without ddr4
>>55441901
The ASUS Strix GTX 960 is 1W below PCI-E specs while the 480 is 5W above, but that's not the concerning part. 6-pin/8-pin power specs don't matter because they're underbid and cards break it all the time. Now card has EVER broke the 12V specs, but the 480 does just that it's 30% over spec on Stock clock. The 960 pulls 50W from 12V while the 480 pulls 80 far above the 66W spec. That's why someone's rails have already been burned. At the very least it is absolutely house fire tier dangerous to even attempt t9 overclock the card. Also, learn thermal physics and electronics microsecond spikes generate zero heat. AMD admitted there was a problem get over it.
>>55441935
>I expect they can't have double power connectors which would be fine for some.
They can have 10 connectors if somebody slaps that many on the card. It doesn't really matter anyway, not that many PSUs nowadays have multiple weak rails to actually need multiple connectors to deliver the power. At the physical/electrical level an 8-pin PCI-E connector cannot handle any more power than a 6-pin (even 8-pin connectors come with 6 wire cables) and you could probably push 300W through one with no issues.
>>55441939
>massive performance drop
nice shill words, but really it doesn't really change much apart from like 1-2 games.
>>55441119
>>55441614
You stupid faggot child. Every fucker here is a consumer you fucking retard. If you buy shit, you are a consumer you asshat. You are a retarded consumer as well unless you are producing your own shit. Grow the fuck up and kek yourself.
>>55441899
I thought you'd be a troll but as it turns out you're just a child trying to be harsh and cool. The technique to take imperfect hardware and sell it downgraded is extremely common especially in semiconductor fabrication.
The 6600k is simply an imperfect 6700k.
AMDs 3 core CPUs were just 4 cores with a core disabled.
nVidia cards have trimmed memory capacity in recent history.
Now AMD formely ATi is giving out reference cards with half the memory disabled either because of testing showing partially falty memory (which isn't fabricated by them, they but it but sometimes a 256MB chip occasionally gives a false 1 for a 0) or to prove the concept of 4 and 8GB cards or to just fill markets.
>>55441935
It d9esnt even matter if it was 6-pin AMD is absolutely retarded for not drawing more power from it.
30% over 6-pin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>30% over 12V
>>55441985
You dense motherfucker. People LITERALLY went beyond that ~60W slot power draw when they overclocked their GTX 960 and no motherboards were killed in the process. Can't you use your brain for 1 second?
Yes AMD went out of spec as nvidia has been doing eons ago. You're trying to make a problem out of something that isn't a problem in the first place.
>>55442008
I thought multiple rails were a dead method long ago?
>>55441983
DDR4 is also a massive meme. The only improvements it makes is you get a few more FPS in fall out 4 because the retarded devs over at bethesda thought using system RAM was somehow better than using vRAM. 99.99999% of games will receive 0 improvements if you use DDR4 RAM.
>>55441382
It's not meant to rival the 1070/80 in performance you shit.
>>55442057
Dude, cut the delusion. It was nowhere near 30% over spec on OC. Your l9gic is horrible "if 1% over spec is a safe bet people are willing to take 30-50 times that must be fine too"
>>55442057
>MD went out of spec as nvidia has been doing eons ago.
for literally one SKU
Of one card
that intermittently draws above PCIe compliance
As opposed to the 480 that steadily draws over
>>55442098
>DDR4 is also a massive meme
You can't just say anything you don't have is a meme.
>>55442046
There is no imperfect hardware it is literally the 8GB model that is set to recognize only half of the VRAM. There is zero reason to buy a 8GB model.
>>55441951
We bought Skylake because the 6700k had a bigger and more sophisticated cache.
>>55441963
Thank you for the suggestion but I still consider sapphire to be budget tier. That backplate barely allows air to leave and certainly not at the volume per time that the mouth and opens could draw in furthermore I expect they still only have 2 year warranty and their designs just look tacky.
>>55442107
The spec is made for sustained draw. The reference model of the 480 is the first card to ever go over spec. Microsecond spikes do not generate any heat.
>>55442098
>The only improvements it makes is you get a few more FPS in fall out 4 because the retarded devs over at bethesda thought using system RAM was somehow better than using vRAM.
Thats not how it works, I don't even, how do you even came to this conclusion.
Fallout 4 is very CPU intensive, faster ram means the CPU will be able to push more instructions to the GPU in a shorter time.
It's not that hard to comprehend, same reason why Dual Channel is faster than Single Channel, 64bits vs 128bits bus.
>>55442123
So you're saying all RX480 are perfect?
Why didn't you just type "tl;dr therefore I win" ?
Because I'm done with you, and just to annoy: I win.
>>55442110
You're entire life is a meme
>>55442137
>We bought Skylake because the 6700k had a bigger and more sophisticated cache.
Okay well that does jack shit in vydias. Haswell is cheaper, has better single thread performance, seemingly better overclocking potential, and lower TDP.
>>55442097
Pretty much, but I don't know if single rail designs are completely ubiquitous or if there are still multi-rail models around. I know my PSU at least is software configurable, as in it has a single 12V rail but 8 "fake" rails created by having 40A current limiters that can be enabled or disabled. I like this design, it's a little bit safe in case something fucks up and shorts it won't actually push 1kW through the thing.
>>55442157
>Fallout 4 is very CPU intensive, faster ram means the CPU will be able to push more instructions to the GPU in a shorter time.
THAT'S WHY VRAM EXISTS YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER.
Holy shit, are you a bethesda dev?
>>55442218
Say what.
>>55442191
>better single thread performance
Are you from the past?
You know that nearly every current gen game benefits for multi threading right?
>>55442022
>ignoring all the perfectly stable "beta" drivers released during this time
I guess you were too distracted by your GPUs burning out, weren't you?
>>55441103
The thread should've ended here
>>55442180
Yes, certain distributors were given 8GB models. AMD probably loses out on every 8GB card they sell for 4GB price. It's just retarded. If you're going to neuter your hardware and sell it for less don't do it through software.
>>55442242
True but are you really gonna pork up ~1.5X the money for 1% performance improvement and possibly a lower overclocking potential?
>>55442276
>1% performance improvement
Except it's not just 1% and you know that
So yes I'll pay more to get a computer with DDR4 memory.
>>55442191
>Haswell has better single thread performance
There is no evidence of this outside of cherry picked aggregated "bench-scores"
>>55442293
Man you really love memes don't you?
You should check out www.reddit.com and maybe stay there, forever. They have trillions of memes over there.
>>55441450
This is best card made since 4850, prove me wrong.
>>55442293
>>>/reddit/
>>55442322
>>55442364
Nvidia...The N stands for Quality. By the way this can't be fixed by a driver update.
>>55441898
>i-it works fine!
Nvidiots believe this.
>>55442378
In other news the RX480 is compatible with VIVE HMD
You guys are way off topic. CPU shit.
Only children just play a game on one screen and do nothing else with their computer and parents shouldn't be buying 6700Ks for children. Game performance is just one dumb metric in an isolated test. Newer generation chips are better at multitasking in many ways some of which we can measure.
Be-fucking-sides if you're upset about using a couple of watts more then please consider that DDR4 uses less power than DDR3 and newer chipset architectures are usually both more stable, feature rich AND power efficient.
I got hella lucky with a 6700k that runs very cool and heavily, stable-ly under-volts but the issue with cooling is that all the improvements over last generation are crammed into a smaller package which just makes heat transfer less spread and is less desirable.
Now drop all this crap and go back to berating the RX 480
>it's reasonable to assume that this involves holding the power requirements as-is and shifting the load to the external 6-pin power connector. Based on earlier data this would potentially put the 6-in connector further over spec
genius
>>55442392
Hey shill.
>>55442413
Don't the 390 be raping the 970?
>>55442378
We actually don't know anything. Could be a driver fix. Could be a BIOS flash fix.
Could be an unfixable hardware issue that only a future revision could take care of, leaving all current owners in the lurch with a broken DP port that can't be used for VR and who knows what else.
Point is, we don't have enough information to go on at the moment, other then the fact it's broken.
>>55442378
>By the way this can't be fixed by a driver update.
How do you know? Do you have proof or are you just spouting nonsense, which in that case fail to see why would you do that.
BIOS updated that fixed compatibility with monitors have been released before.
>>55442413
same webm always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm5ZCJah-FY
>>55442378
There's an easy fix for this
Use hdmi for your vr
>>55441749
>The cards supply only gets better and prices only get better for cards both AMD or Nvidia
Why is the 1060 on par with the 970 for more money then?
>>55442452
The Fury X also fails and it uses the "revolutionary" HBM and it cost $150 more than the GTX970 not to mention it came out 1 year later.
If you ask me the Fury X was a worse deal.
>>55442451
Proof by the way.
Now you turn.
>>55442465
what do you mean, failed?
>>55442479
What proof is that? How did you make this?
>>55442479
That's not proof that it can't be fixed, just that it wasn't yet.
>>55442479
so posting bios updates is a proof that tthis problem can be fixed?
its like showing a pair of legs to someone that lost both of its legs
>>55442497
This pic is from http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5209#bios
BIOS updates to fix compatibilities with monitors.
The DP on the cards work on monitors so the problem is obviously on the Vive Box side, this is just like screen flickering on the 1080/1070 which people are reporting, it is caused by people overclocking their monitors and the resolution which needs more bandwidth than what dual dvi can provide.
In the past we had http://www.monitortests.com/forum/thread-nvidia-pixel-clock-patcher
but by using this you're trying to push the Dl-DVI way out of the standard and what can it do in a reliable way.
>>55442451
GTX 1080 Outputs for VR
HDMI -> 1440p
DP -> 4K
Imagine spending all that money for 1440p
>>55442561
You can just use dual dvi to hdmi and DP to your monitor.
Cheaper too.
>>55442574
For Vive >>55442378
>>55442378
i wonder if this shit was any shady deal with oculus by nvidia before oculus removed the exclusivity of their hmd lol
>>55442378
wow so hard
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9PBzalIcEQCsiIkq36PyUA
AMD failed on so many levels with this card. It promised so much and delivered so little.
>Complains that RX480 competes with last gen
>Recommends 1060
1060 is way faster than the 480 at the same price, 1060 will be awesome
>>55442847
From the technical standpoint the 480 is ridiculously underwhelming, none of the AMD shills brag about anything but its price point honestly, because there is nothing else worth mentioning. It's a new generation card on a smaller node that somehow performs worse with less efficiency than a 2 year old card on a node twice as big
>>55442917
1060 has already been proven to be 15% faster than the 480
1060 is like what the 480 promised to be - low power, as fast as a 980, and without all the AMD crappy issues.
>>55442463
>on par with the 970
and did you dig those benchmarks out of our anus?
Video of an 18 year old explaining how AMD fucked up the reference rx 480.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plC7tOYIqBw @ 54 min
>>55442926
>Isnt an enthusiast level card
>main goal is to get more of the mainstream audience into VR and PC gaymen
What is there to brag about aside from price?
Maybe DX12 support and non-gimped compute performance, but the whole point of this card is that its cheap and a lot of people can buy them.
>>55442333
3.5/4 star post mang
>>55443009
You're not going to play any VR with this card unless you want to become seriously sick
Any estimates on how much the aftermarket 480's are gonna cost? From the looks of it they're gonna be $250+. At that point I think I'm better off just buying a 970 or waiting for the 1060.
![9800gtx+vs%204850%20-%201[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1H44dCI.jpg "9800gtx+vs%204850%20-%201[1].jpg")
>>55442333
lmao 4850 was cocks, outperformed by second-hand ancient 8800GTX
>>55441502
>192-bit memory bus
DCC, not a problem.
>4 TFLOPS
R390 had 5.1, 970 had 3.5,
970 is still better than 390.
>3GB vRAM
It's 6GB.
Try again.
>>55443091
$300 minimum
>>55441807
quad sli titan x's, watercooled athlon II, 64k of ram, 10GW PSU.
>>55443009
>non-gimped compute performance
what does that even mean?
>>55441436
>a nvidia xbox 360 game
>xbox 360
>nvidia
I get it, you can't remember because you weren't born yet?
>>55443287
it's a shitty AMD shill meme because nvidia takes a hit in dx12, but it's actually dx12 that is the problem
as of now it's a step back in performance from dx11
>>55441096
Absolutely not. It's just a little overpriced because nvidia has nothing nice around the same price point to force it cheaper
>>55441899
>They sell 8GB vram models of the 480 and then lock 4GB through the software and call it 4GB model
That was the test model sent to reviewers you fucking dunce
>>55443378
The great use of fallacies.
>>55443378
>nvidia takes a hit in dx12, but it's actually dx12 that is the problem
nvidian logic
>>55443422
and this is argument from fallacy
>>55443378
the reason nvidia takes a hit in dx12 is mostly because their dx11 driver is almost twice as fast as AMDs and does a lot more optimizations.
It'll take a lot of time and effort for game devs to surpass it in performance.
I am planning on completely reforming my computer.
On the list is a generic motherboard, with an intel core i7 of the sixth generation.
Now, I only have a 1080p monitor, with no intention of upgrading anytimes sooner except size. Which card would be more viable to me?
>>55443415
>>55441445
I'm not surprised an AMDrone would say that
>>55443378
Dx12 is not the problem. Nvidia not designing capable hardware is the problem. Dx12 can handle 600x draw calls but somehow nvidia can't take advantage of this massive performance increase.
>>55443476
Why should I be mad about a company being dumb and essentially giving me more for less? This sounds like the anti 3.5.
>>55443441
>>55443500
dx11 drivers have multithreading and automatic async compute with preemption, dx12 restricts drivers to a single thread and puts async in the hands of developers and it isn't async at all with single threading
the fact amd performs better with dx12 speaks more of amd's shitty drivers and hardware than it does of nvidia
dx12 is a step back
>>55443235
comes in 3 and 6GB
>>55443500
that's because dx12 games aren't using than many more draw calls than their dx11 versions.
think about it, there are no exclusively dx12 games, so that approach would make no sense, the dx11 path would be unusable
so at the most you might see games pushing somewhat more calls, which means it's most likely not a major bottleneck. and since nvidia can handle almost 2x as many calls as amd, you shouldn't expect a huge increase in performance.
>>55443514
>amd performs better on dx12 because dx12 is more reliant on hardware and game devs than gpu drivers
>amd hardware is bad
lol, if you're talking hardware alone nvidia will never hold a candle to amd. hawaii is still monstrous compared to pascal on a hardware level.
>>55443476
like this is a problem you stupid retards. But buying 4 and getting 3.5 is.
>>55443514
False, absolutely false on all levels.
>>55443551
prove it then
>>55443544
lol
>>55443564
>$200 480's pcb is better engineered than $700 1080's pcb
lol, your 5+1 phase belongs in the trash
>>55441096
All things considering it is an 80 series and not even an X. I'm actually pretty impressed with the performance, can't wait to so what the 490 is going to do.
>>55443514
lol what the fuck
>>55443544
hardware wise Kepler > Maxwell
>>55443564
A simple Google search will show dx12 is multi threaded, dx11 single.
I could ask you the same, but you can't.
>>55443476
>making one box and sticker is cheaper than making 2 boxes
This is packaging industry standard for two decades.
>>55443633
>AMDrone pajeet dumbfounded by technology
no surprises here
>>55442191
>Haswell has better single thread performance
Not true. Skylake had better single-threaded performance in almost every benchmark; it's only that there were like one or two that showed a regression. Not that the improvement was amazing, but overall, it was an improvement.
>>55443544
>hawaii is still monstrous compared to pascal on a hardware level
>>55442218
>THAT'S WHY VRAM EXISTS YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER.
No, VRAM exists to give GPUs fast access to the data they need, not to give the CPU fast access to the data they need.
The point you tried and failed to respond to was that CPU performance is often the bottleneck in Fallout 4.
>>55443551
not on all levels
asynchronous compute is possible in dx11
>>55443650
He's dumbfounded at the stupidity.
Overhead is significantly reduced by moving driver and API code to any available CPU thread
The absolute time required to complete complex CPU tasks is notably reduced
Game workloads can be meaningfully distributed across >4 CPU cores
New “bandwidth” on the CPU allows for higher peak draw calls, enabling more detailed and immersive game worlds
All available CPU cores may now “talk” to the graphics card simultaneously
>>55442157
>Fallout 4 is very CPU intensive, faster ram means the CPU will be able to push more instructions to the GPU in a shorter time.
The problem with this statement, however, is that DDR4 is only better in terms of sheer bandwidth, while in very many practical cases, CAS/RAS latency is the bottleneck, and DDR4 has no improvements whatsoever in that metric. At times it's even worse than DDR3.
>>55443718
> I don't know how bandwidth vs latency work: the post
>>55443717
>Overhead is significantly reduced by moving driver and API code to any available CPU thread
no, performance is improved by that, not overhead.
the amount of work the dx12 driver does is massively reduced in dx12/vulkan/mantle compared to dx11/ogl. that's where the reduction in overhead comes from.
>>55441951
Your table shows the Haswell with higher price and lower CPU-Mark though, mang.
>>55443744
Please point out the mistakes then, professor.
>>55443331
obviously because we all know gow wasnt ported directly as a xbox 360 game...
no it was all consipiracy
>>55443672
oh shit lets who would knew cherry picking a single thing amd cards couldnt do till 480....
lets see how good nvidia does on async?
>>55441096
>Is this the worst video card of all time?
Could be but it is the one I am getting.
>>55443718
Ddr4 is a meme
>>55443761
Those are stock clocks also. My 6600 gets 8k multi, 26xx single.
>>55443816
pretty large improvement for a card that's not majorly held back by geometry perf
>>55443816
wait.. amd cards couldn't do what?
transform geometry?
lol I'm really not sure what you're saying
>>55442191
>Haswell is cheaper hasseemingly better overclocking potential
From all I heard, Skylake had better overclocking potential due to the lack of integrated VRM. Not that I've tried myself or anything.
>>55443109
so amd are doing nothing new by making the 480 shit? waiting for the rx dmgctrl to complete with the 1080
Up until the point the 480 causes my motherboard to explode it'll be 3x+ as powerful as my current GPU so that's fine by me.
>>55443935
Not sure why nvidiots hate dx12 so much. Everything gets a performance bump.
>>55444001
What are you going to cry about in another day or so when drivers fix that issue?
>>55444005
It's the ayymd tards, who keep crying about their supposed superiority.
>>55443972
Skylake will give you slightly lower temps overall. It also can handle higher voltage.
>>55443672
You dont even know what the graph says do you? you just like the big bars
>>55441096
>to new to remember gtx 480 housefire
>to new to remember r9 290X housefire
GET OF MY BOARD
>>55444045
You apparently skipped to the end if this thread and read only that.
>>55444019
AMD is so incompetent I bet the drivers won't even fix it. They will also reduces performance. What a shitshow.
>>55444100
Hmm. Undervolting improved performance, so explain this to me.
>>55444100
>He dont even know but still comments
>>55444070
how could anyone not know?
a 1080 has nearly 3x the geometry throughput of the mounstrous 290x, at least in that test.
>>55444019
Probably about being stuck with my Biostar motherboard and how nobody can take a joke in these threads.
Seriously, 3x the performance for $200 sounds a-okay to me.
>>55443476
lmao
AMD are such scummy fucks
Imagine all the people who paid extra for 8gb when it's the same fucking card
>>55444168
Imagine all the 970 owners with 3.5gb instead of 4
Imagine all the 970 owners with tdp greatly over 145 watts
AMD is pretty much finished now
Why is this shit sold out everywhere?
970 is
>>55444353
Just another paper launch. Add that to the list of fuckups with the 480.
>>55444297
>2 wrongs make a right
i guess this is the best an amdrone can do since poverty diet has damaged your brain
>budget vr card
Not the worst.
>>55444613
>budget
>vr
It's the worst
I have a $250 for a GPU for my friends computer. Should I get the R9 390 or the RX 480?
>>55444745
970
So much Nvidia people hate the $200 AMD card. I absolutely love this!!! Look at all this time and effort spent on this thread. LOL
>>55444745
wait for aib 480
>>55444745
RX 480, no contest
>>55444870
I have a 970 and I don't think it'll be good in the long run since it's only 3.5GB card. I only bought it last year since I found one for $250. She will only use it for 1080p gaming so I was going to get the RX 480 for her. Is it really that bad? All the benchmarks I saw wasn't impressive but it performed atleast almost identical to the 390/970 just a few frames less. When are we getting aftermarket 480s?
>>55444745
Can you wait a day to see how the 1060 is?
>AMD
Not even once.
>>55444937
>Is it really that bad?
Yeah, it's pretty fucking bad. You could wait for the aib 480's but they won't be out until later this month, or the 1060.
>>55444745
If hes going to be playing the new Battle Field 1 then the RX480 it is.
