Can't understand why people still buying and using this shit...
Air Cooling >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit AIO Water Cooling meme
Gr8 b8 m8.
Liquid cooling outperforms air cooling 100% of the time.
>>55438482
air coolers don't like dealing with the thermal output from pumping ~200w into a 3930k
>>55438482
ITT - Stop liking what I don't like!
It's like you need your own safe space or something...
It takes up less space and it's better at cooling most of the time so yeah there's that.
Water cooling costs a lot more, that's why.
>>55438506
That isn't true. high end air coolers match high end liquid AIOs.
If you're talking about custom loops, that is a different matter altogether.
>>55438555
Spent 150 dollars procuring used parts for my custom loop.
>>55438547
> better at cooling
Tell me this after three years , I will continue with my Noctua cooling as the first day
>>55438482
Let me guess custom or nothing? It gets heat out of the case without a big hassle, on top of being quiet and performing well.
>>55438563
This thread is about AIO.
I just use it because it means there's less weight on motherboard and I move my PC quite a bit. And it's not worse than air cooling.
This!
Same price or even better than some AIO Kits , same performance or even better than some AIO Kits , BETTER PERFORMANCE after 3-4 years than ALL AIO KITS
>>55438564
>>55438558
>>55438610
Your Noctua is just spreading the heat around your case and warping the mobo, no solution is perfect for every situation.
Aio's are crap. Subpar performance, non serviceable, expensive for what it offers, people buy them for looks essentially, and I know this first hand. Good air coolers and properly done custom loops will outperform them by a large margin.
>>55438506
>Liquid cooling outperforms air cooling 100% of the time
See pic
>>55438622
>just spreading the heat around your case
If you are useless and don't know how to install it yes...
>>55438624
/thread
>>55438610
How do you get this monster to fit inside my cute Mini ITX case?
>D14
AIO users fall into one (or both) of the following categories
-Poorfags who cant afford a custom loop and think its the next best thing
- le epic window case aesthetic builders who a favour form over function
>>55438672
I can hear your motherboard cracking over the weight.
>>55438622
There's arrows on the fans to help the slow ones install them correctly.
>>55438682
Ah, a skylake user I see.
>>55438672
form + function you mean, The best AIOs outperform the best Air coolers.
>>55438682
>I can hear your motherboard cracking over the weight.>>
You can post a picture of cracked motherboard because a air cooler please?
>>55438663
>75$ air cooler has the same performance as a 140$ watershit
Does the liquid in those things ever need changing? Can the liquid be changed?
>> 55438783
These things, in 3 years is useless, I do not know if it's because of the pump, liquid or wtf
* no , you can't change the liquid
ITT:Poorfags justifying their shitty performing air coolers housefires
>>55438818
you make me laugh
>>55438783
-Yes, it eventually starts evaporating or leaking over time.
-It's possible, but it's a fucking pain to do so, since you don't have an easy way to bleed the loop.
>>55438482
People buy water coolers for the same reason they buy cases with windows, LED fans, and color matching motherboards.
SUPERFICIAL BULLSHIT
Water cooling is a perfect example of the worst parts of custom PCs, a bunch of crap that not only performs worse but is actually more expensive and dangerous.
>>55438622
Fuck off, retard.
>>55438715
>The best AIOs outperform the best Air coolers
By a couple of degrees whilst outputting ten times the noise, then failing after two years. No thanks.
AIO users are the absolute biggest morons around. Either do a custom loop or don't bother with liquid at all, you dumb babies.
>>55438757
yeah bro but it's LIQUID
>>55438558
lol top end NH-D15 gets beaten by the seidon 120V and you can buy the Seidon 120V and replace the fans with Noctua fans and still come out cheaper than the NH-D15 by a sizable amount.
>>55438900
>lol top end NH-D15 gets beaten by the seidon 120V and you can buy the Seidon 120V and replace the fans with Noctua fans and still come out cheaper than the NH-D15 by a sizable amount.
After 2 years , half performance...
Nice cooling system haahhah
>Buy big-ass air cooler
>Have to cut hole in your case to fit it
>Buy big AiO cooler
>The most inconvenient thing is looking at the tubes if your an idiot
>Still runs cooler then the bigass air cooler
>>55438900
It's twice as loud, horrible efficiency
>>55438900
The Seidon is louder but performs bettere. Its almost as if fans than spin faster movem ore air but makem ore noise.
In other shocking news, water is wet.
>>55438900
Wait, so you're telling me the 120v even outperforms the 240v on >>55438663 ?
>>55438563
Are there any good guides for custom water cooling? I was hoping to cool a videocard as they seem to benefit the most from water given the limits of heatsink size.
>>55438953
Custom water cooling is stupid because you have to drain and remove everything every time you want to upgrade.
>>55438482
Except it's not.
>>55438976
That is the downside naturally. Such a downside hardly makes it stupid given the advantages a custom loop has over an AIO.
Plus some companies make quick release valves now.
So far the h100 has served me 4 years and is still keeping my 3930k at ~40c idle (summer) at the quietest setting. Still going for this bad boy for my next build, in the Dark Base Pro 900.
>>55438976
Do you even know what you're saying? Unless you need to modify the loop itself you have no reason to open it up.
>>55439014
Except when you're upgrading your gpu, like gamers do.
>>55438482
Better cooling performance than on air, useful for heavier overclocking, super easy to install vs custom loops, cheap vs custom loops, fits nicely into many PC cases... I don't think you've ever used one or checked measured results of the performance to say something like that.
>>55439011
>Dark Base Pro 900
I really, really want one of those but equally its a lot of money to spend when I already have a really good case (R4).
>>55439027
And for that you almost always need a new gpu block, which means modifying the loop.
>>55439033
You do not know much about computers....
Please go back to your gayming routine
>>55438506
Not true. My 212 evo cools the CPU an average of 10° cooler than my corsair H55 aio.
>>55439050
Custom water cooling is shit because you have to drain and remove everything every time you need to modify the loop.
>>55439062
Wonderful profiling, kek.
>>55439066
Oh please, a 212+ is a step above the stock cooler, but there isn't a chance in hell it's beating an H55 unless the pump is broken or you didn't attach the fans.
>>55438921
>49db
>54db
>Twice as loud
I think you need to know how numbers work.
I also pointed out that you can replace the fans with Noctuas and still come out cheaper and it would lower the db.
>tfw both cpu and gpu is cooled by AIO
No complaints at all. I'd do a custom loop if I could but I realized I barely play games at all. Theyre just not fun these days.
After many years messing with air and liquid AIOs, I'd suggest liquid everytime. It just takes up less space and is more aesthetically pleasing. As for cooling, both usually idle around 30. Sometimes liquid could get down to 28c I've noticed. Max Temps seem to be within the same range. The differences are that liquid cools down faster and takes a little longer to reach those max Temps. As for noise, I've found that liquid allows you to have your fans spin at a much lower rpm. There is extra noise coming from the pump, however it's not audible outside a closed case. If it is, then adjust the voltage going to the pump whether it be through a provided software or your motherboards fan controller.
>>55439096
You are grossly overestimating what is widely regarded as one of the shittiest aio's in existence
>>55438818
>gaymers defending their disposable sprinkler systems
>>55439107
Its dba, not db.
>>55439107
db is logarithmic, it is twice as loud
Water cooling is incredibly inefficient, loud as fuck.
>>55439107
Loudness perception isn't linear you fucking mongoloid
>>55439107
I'm not him, but decibel values scale exponentially, meaning 40db is *not* twice as loud as 20db etc.
>>55438976
>what are QDCs
>>55439200
Expensive. Those particular ones are THE SHIT, though. Can you even buy them separately for custom loops ?
>>55439222
yes
http://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/fittings/quick-release-fittings/2722/schnellverschluss-cpc-12-7mm-kupplung
So you guys are telling me that air coolers are more reliable and on par/better than closed loops?
>>55439361
Air coolers are far more efficient in every way.
>>55439368
But looking at tweaktown's overall cooler rankings several AIOs perform not only cooler, but lower noise levels as well \:
they are a bit expensive compared to air coolers...but they DO perform better it seems, at least the nicer higher end ones.
>>55439490
The best AIOs are slightly better than the best air coolers but are generally significantly more expensive while also being more unreliable, low/mid-range AIOs are a meme.
So what's an AIO you can recommend with a good price/value ratio?
>>55439361
AIO have multiple points of failure
Worst thing that can happen with an air cooler is the fan breaks, in which case the CPU is still passively cooled by the heatsink and ambient airflow from the case fans.
>>55439737
>CPU is still passively cooled by the heatsink and ambient airflow from the case fans.
Lets be realistic here, depening on a million factors passively cooling a chip isn't going to happen. Pic related - a cooler rated for 95w tdp passive or 300 with a fan.
What site do you guys reference for heatsink performance? I have an h60 with like a 200cfm push pull configuration and I'm worried about it failing since it's been in use since 2010. I don't care about noise I just want a reasonably priced air cooler that will let me max out my i3 6320 with a z170 over clock.
>>55439688
Why do you absolutely want an AIO? Unless you you're building with smaller form factors there's no reason to not go for air.
>>55439819
well...
>A E S T H E T I C S
>E
>S
>T
>H
>E
>T
>I
>C
>S
>there are still peoples that consider zalman shit as being the best aircooling solution
Curse my poorness
>Crappy old corsair H60
>Cooling a 45nm Phenom II x6 1055T overclocked to 4.2ghz at 1.6vcc, a hot CPU being pushed hard
>Temps never go over 34c
I don't know what the fuck you cunts are even moaning about most of the time. I've had this H60 for years, it's still going strong.
>>55439862
All they do is sit on the internet all day, and all people do on the internet is complain when shit breaks, so the small percentage of people who get DOA AIOs or have their pumps die after a few weeks/months all bitch about it online making these sad cunts think all AIOs are shit.
The meme just hasn't been true since the first generation AIOs basically. I've had two AIOs in the past 4 years (different builds) and both are still going strong.
>>55438900
>all those noise levels
complete trash
show something at 24 dB
>>55439790
Assuming a fan for an air cooler suddenly shit the bed, the procesor would simply reach thermal shutdown. Of course, the same goes for if your pump or fan failed in an aio, but if the coolant springs a leak youre fucked.
>>55439887
show air cooler performance at 24dBa...
>>55439899
PC must be noiseless
Learn it you fucking braindead retard
>>55439946
o-o-okay? Show me a fucking air cooler that is 24dBa and it's performance you fucking autist.
Watch me solve this whole thread guys:
If you like AIOs, buy them.
If you hate AIOs, don't buy them.
Bam, problem solved. Everyone wins.
/thread
Question for my liquid cooling lads. My radiator had to be screwed in on the top part of the case, with a fan positioned on top of the outside of the case (right above the radiator). Should the fan on top of my case be blowing air in to the radiator or sucking air out? I've read that you want to blow air in to the radiator, but I've also read thay fans on the ceiling of your case should always be sucking air out of the case since heat rises. Am I better off blowing air in to the radiator, or should I be sucking hot air from the case through the radiator and out of the top of the case? My temps are usually pretty good, idle around 19-24C and rises up to around 40-50 while under stress.
>>55440083
There's not really a cooling difference between blowing air into a radiator and sucking air through a radiator. It's better to have air pulled out of the case if it's going through a radiator though, because otherwise you're heating up the case significantly. And because it's on top, you also have the hot air rising thing, which doesn't matter that much either. The only plus that sucking air through a radiator has versus pushing air through, is that you'll have an easier time cleaning the radiator of dust because there's no fan in the way.
So, fan on top, pulling air out.
>>55440143
Thanks for the input, gonna turn the fan over today.
>>55439887
Why do retards like this even bother posting?
>>55440259
>I want jet engine under desk
Why do retards like this even bother posting?
>>55438506
for the price, you are 100% wrong as fuck
>>55440268
Why would you make such an unreasonable noise level such as 24dBa though?
I dont know a single air cooler that is that low.
You just look retarded when you specify 24dBa
>>55440268
Oh look, another retard. Fails to even see the reason why I called him a retard.
>>55440268
You know what is on average rated at 24dba? Falling leaves.
Aren't your standards set a tad too high?
>>55438482
My corsair h100i keeps my 8350 at a cool 20 degrees
My brother gave me his PC with a custom loop.
I lost the cap off the resovoir and then I had to replace it with some blu tac.
One day it just stopped working and I found out it had a load of gunk and shit inside it and then my PC almost died. I didnt deserve a uber watercooled pc but still lmao
Honestly, I just like the way they look.
>>55440353
The problem with this, and all the other shit, is distance. At what distance do falling leaves have a noise level of 24 dba? 2 cm? 20 cm? 200 cm? Same thing applies to these cooler tests. Reviewers from different sites don't adhere to the same standards, so obviously you can't compare the results from one site to another. Take the NH-D14 in >>55438900 for example. 49.9 dBA. Is that loud? You have no way of knowing that until you know what kind of distance the noise was measured from. And this is why >>55439887 is retarded. He comments on the noise levels despite not knowing the distance the testing used, and then wants 24 dB without mentioning the distance at all.
For the curious ones, frostytech measures their noise from 6" away. If you apply inverse square law as an estimate as to how much it would be from further away, then you get about 33 dB @1m, 27 dB at @2m, etc.
All memes aside, why is it that amd recommends water cooling, (including aio since one version of the cpu package came with one) and not air cooling? Can you even air cool something with that much output?
Used to have a seidon 120v in my core 500 but I can't be bothered thinking how it could leak plus it wasvery loud so I just opted for the l9x65
>>55440464
I'm talking about the 9590*
>>55440424
The point I'm trying to make is that what he wants is virtually inaudible to the human ear, and thus unrealistic to apply to working pumps or blades pushing air. Hell most consumer grade sound don't even capture values this low.
>>55440480
*Consumer grade soundmeters
Thanks autocorrect
>>55440480
>24 dB
>virtually inaudible
>Zero decibels (0 dB) is the quietest sound audible to a healthy human ear
>>55440415
>Honestly, I just like the way they look.
That is literally the only reason to water cool.
It's completely superficial, don't believe otherwise.
>>55440464
You can with the beefier ones, but take into account normies are the main target audience (anyone minimally tech savvy knows best to just oc a 83x0, because that's what the 9590 is), and if you say some air coolers work they'll just slap on whatever is cheapest.
>>55440474
Its because most people are retarded and don't look up what sort of TDP air coolers have - slapping a single tower 120mm unit onto a 9590 isn't going to work. A single 120mm rad clc will may sorta possibly do the job however.
Pic related, an air cooler capable of handling a 9590.
Proud owner of a cooler master seidon 120v that I bought back in 2014 here. Been cooling my 4ghz OC'd, six core, 130W TDP xeon ever since then with zero problems.
65C under the absolute most punishing load I can give it after several hours of slowly climbing in my shitty room, in the Antec GX500 case with a push/pull configuration on it. Usually sits in the 50s for gaming on stuff like PS2 or witcher 3, idles in the low 30s. 0 signs evaporation so far.
It's a little loud I guess?
![Xigmatek-Thor-Hammer_11[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YrWdu8d.jpg "Xigmatek-Thor-Hammer_11[1].jpg")
>>55440570
I've been running a Xigmatek Thor's Hammer for almost 7 years now. AMD dual, tri, quad, hex and octo core. All with a fat OC and never goes above 45C. Old but gold coolers.
>>55439688
Just get an air cooler, they are a way better value
![CPBU_008_4g_800x800[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gdZLc67.jpg "CPBU_008_4g_800x800[1].jpg")
>>55440601
>>55440538
Great, why don't you tell us about all those lovely 10dba sounds you hear?
What your ear drums can vibrate to is one thing, your brain discerning actual sounds is another entirely, and it varies from person to person.
its because you can say your computer is WATER COOLED after.
always amusing when they swap out their loud stock fans for ones that come stock in "high end" air coolers.
>>55440647
24 dBA is pretty easily audible.
For example, what the guys at silentpcreview say in some random cpu cooler review
>At the opposite end of the spectrum, it produces a very loud 30 dBA@1m at full speed
>With the stock fan, the cooler appears to hit its sweet spot at about 50% speed, which is just under the 20 dBA threshold that I consider quiet. Performance is even decent at 30%, with the noise level approaching inaudible.
>>55438650
I fit it inside a Raijintek Metis.
>>55439107
that's almost 20x louder...
>>55440737
>spcr
You know as well as I do they focus on low noise above all else. I'm betting more on oversensitive ears than anything, who will in fact pick low noises we average normies can't. Hell I'll even go out and say a soundproof room is involved.
>>55440480
>Hell most consumer grade sound don't even capture values this low.
most cheap decibel metres won't pick up below 30-40db-ish because they're designed for loud job site environments where their primary use is health and safety related so people know to wear hearing protection, that's why even the cheapest of the cheap will do something like 40-140db
it has zero relevance on pcs however where they're almost always less than a metre away (under a desk) or less than 40-50cm away (on top of a desk) where the difference at even lower dBa is pretty significant, and the fact that review sites are using cheap (or even expensive) metres in this range shows their failing in informing the consumer
>For the curious ones, frostytech measures their noise from 6" away.
I don't know where you found that but frostytech mention their testing methodology for their mk.ii rig (pictured earlier in the thread, methodology here: http://www.frostytech.com/testmethod_mk2.cfm ) as the following:
>To measure the level of noise produced, a heatsink is placed in the Sound Isolating Enclosure and the sound meter positioned about 12" off to one side.
so that's 49 versus 54 dba at 12 inches(30cm~) away, it's not directly comparable to having a sound absorbing case right next to you but it's pretty fucking comparable and that is not an insignificant difference especially considering for most people having the gpu fans pickup while doing gpu intensive stuff can be heard over headphones while audio is playing
>>55438663
dh 14 cooler than 15
nice meme
these shithead reviewers can't into thermal paste apparently
>>55438650
Nh-c14 fits in my Ncase m1 and thats small as fuck.
>>55438610
>NH-D14 from 2011 still running good
Might reapply thermal paste soon.
the one place AIOs make any sense at all is in low profile cases, low profile air coolers suck roasted toasted balls, a radiator doesn't give a fuck about its orientation as long as it can exhaust the air cooling it some where, low profile air coolers are stuck to the motherboard and dump all the heat on the motherboard, unless you have a super weird updraft low profile cooler
other than that yea air coolers, especially dual tower air coolers are better than all 120mm rad AIOs and some 240mm rad AIOs
and full custom beats the pants of of both, in terms of cooling potential, but really water cooling is massive overkill these days, it's mostly done for aesthetics
had aio once, pump failed and threw the fucker out for a noctua d15. problem is that big fucker makes my gfx cards run hot too, put in a custom loop and my gfx cards are running 10°C cooler than with the D15.
>*pop*
That is all it takes for your $1k-$3k system to die because of AIO leaking.
Defend this gaymers.
H80i GT here
Hate me faggots
>>55443942
>Defend this gaymers.
>he doesnt know AIOs (and custom loops) use non-conductive liquids
as long as you turn your machine off promptly and clean up the spill there shouldnt be any damage at all.
I suppose if your motherboard was coated in a thick layer of dust that could cause the liquid to become conductive enough to short the motherboard, but if it's straight from the pump it shouldnt be conductive.
212 evo here. Keeping my 3570K oc'd nice and cool.
>>55439132
This. It is pretty bad. A single 120mm radiator just isn't enough.
>>55444094
>he doesnt know AIOs (and custom loops) use non-conductive liquids
no they don't faggot
they use a water propylene glycol mixture for anti-corrosion
if they used a truly no-conductive fluid, the temps would either suck or the cooler would cost $50-100 more since non-conductive fluids are fucking expensive as hell if they need to perform thermally similar to water
honestly it's easier to coat your components in waterproof coatings than to buy non-conductive fluids
>>55444246
>Not coating all your components in neverwet
>>55444246
So I guess I just got lucky then? Cause my H60 leaked on my motherboard after 2 months of use, I noticed after a few minutes I think and turned it off and cleaned it up, threw an air cooler on there and it booted up fine. RMA'd the H60 and when I got a new one I installed it and it's been working fine for over a year now. All the same components as when it originally leaked, all still working.
>>55444326
read the last line of my post faggot
>>55438482
itts cheap and quiet. you can get better cooling from fans but its expensive and will make a lot of noise
>>55444246
Let's call it "extremely low conductive fluid" then, mr autism
>>55438482
Because the pumps become ridiculously noisy after a year of use, other than that they're better in every way.
Why would you trust someone in China who works 16 hour days to put together something that you'll be installing into your system that has fluid in it that could potentially fuck up your system. If you water cool just do it yourself.
Dis thread
>>55444400
Those dubs quads dubs holy shit
>>55444400
chinese people has a place in my heart :)
>>55444334
if it didn't get near any components soldered to the motherboard, be it slots or other electronics, there would be nothing to bridge or circuits to close since most if not all motherboards are coated in a non conductive material before soldering all the shit to them
i'm not sure of the conductivity of the mixture of propylene glycol and water, i know distilled water is non conductive, but it's highly reactive and will want to pull ions out of any thing it comes in contact with to make itself conductive again, maybe propylene glycol as an ant-corrosive agent lowers the conductivity of the fluid, but i know it's a water propylene glycol mixture they use in AIO coolers, and i'm way too lazy to look it up right now
you probably go lucky and it didn't get into any connection points where the board isn't coated
I have a Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power that does pretty damn well and is quiet as fuck
How much would a custom loop cost for CPU and GPU? Seems like it'd be expensive as fuck since the blocks cost so much to start with.
>>55444537
For everything you're looking at $500-800+ depending on specifics.
Either air or just go full phase change.
Water is just the half-assed way
>>55439862
>H60
>Cooling a 125W TDP part with a 1.4ghz overclock and overvolted to 1.6v to 34c
I don't know what you stand to gain from making things up, but an H60 can't keep an overclocked 3770k at that temperature when it's idling, and that's a 77W TDP part. Under load, that 3770k gets to 70c.
sauce: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h60_2013_review,10.html/
So yeah, for the amount you paid, you could have gotten a far superior air cooler.
Also, make no mention of noise levels. Don't forget noise means your fans are running fast, which reduces their lifespan. Ideally, the heatsink itself should be doing most of the work. In the case of an AIO, you have both the pump and the fans that must work harder if the radiator can't handle the thermal load.
AIOs are shit.
>>55438610
>He fell for the overpriced Noctua meme
>>55438482
some people use tiny meme cases. liquid cooling is much better when you're confined to a small spaces like that.
but... for most options, water cooling is not worth it.
>>55444352
Water is nonconductive too, shitbird, if that's the road you want to take.
Can you guarantee that the inside of your case is completely free of any dust, debris, or other particles? If not, kindly fuck off.
>>55444682
>DeepCool Gamer Storm Lucifer v2
>>55444352
the big problem is distilled water's electrical conductivity changes over time, and that rate is a hard thing to determine, propylene glycol water solutions even more so abstract a topic to define, at the beginning it's low conductive, but after a while it isn't, and that rate can change due to the environment it is in
there are no hard fast numbers i can point to, but since you're shitposting in this thread rather than actually understanding what i'm getting at, or what i'm trying to inform your retardation against, i think my time is better served ignoring your shitposting since you don't want to learn any fucking ways
i'm not against AIOs completely thay just don't make sense past a few cases
>>55444352
All fluids are non-conductive (practically).
Can we at least agree that I have the cutest cpu cooler on /g/?
If you use a duct on your heatsink you can put the fan outside your case and have it in an insulated box.
A Delta "mega fast" fan destroys all those closed loop water coolers if the fan has a proper heatsink.
>>55444782
I dunno, I reckon that AMD's wraith cooler is the most kawaii.
Hell i'd buy that wraith cooler just to own one.
>>55444817
>A Delta "mega fast" fan destroys all those closed loop water coolers
It will also destroy your hearing (assuming you even have the right connector to feed it power).
>>55444817
Where does the GPU air go then? Out the bottom?
>>55444782
Do all coolers with top mounted fans blow onto the motherboard? I've had a 212 for a very long time and I don't remember.
It just seems counter intuitive to me... Wouldn't it be easier to exhaust the hot air if it was being blown away from the mobo?
>>55444817
how fast is mega fast? 10 lightyears?
>>55444765
Kinda overpriced for what it does. I've seen 30-40€ coolers outperform it in both performance and noise
>>55444849
Did you even read my first sentence.
Also you can undervolt it, it also performs very well with lower voltages.
>>55444856
Plenty of other pathways for that depending on your case.
But a duct is really great to get CPU temps lower.
>>55444883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ao4cek4IU
>>55444911
>megafast
LOL YOU COULD USE THAT THING TO TAKE GLAMOUR SHOTS
>>55440668
It always amuses me when I talk to people about their computers and they smugly mention their WATER COOLED PC, and it turns out it just has a shitty AIO slapped onto it.
>>55444817
haha yea get a le grand macho with the 120mm duct kit, and throw a delta grand high speed in the back of your case don't forget to wear your iem headphones with sound insulating earmuffs over them so you can listen to music at a reasonable level
or you could just get a 360 rad 3 quiet 120mm fans, and have a nice quiet system that you can overclock pretty decently on, hell get a meme tiny case and mount the rad/pump externally and put it off in the corner so you're farther from it and hear it even less, or put it out window you can close to isolate yourself from it even more
>>55444911
wow, that is not loud at all. fuck liquid cooling.
>>55445038
It's like you can't read and there's only 1 possible way to put in a duct.
And you can easily undervolt the fan
>>55445038
>put it out a window
>outdoor temperature drops below indoor temperature
>condensation begins to form on motherboard
>computer suddenly locks up, then turns off
>"wut"
>>55445060
Noise level usually comes from the fans, if you buy good fans they will be quiet regardless of if it's an AIO, custom water loop, or air cooler.
>>55445073
i was joking dude, who in their right mind would put a delta gran high speed fan in a system they will sit next to, that shit if fucking loud as hungry drunk black bitch waiting for pancakes at denny's at 3am
>>55445075
not likely to happen unless it drops below freezing and you'd be an idiot to leave it outside so that's on you, one you can't lock the window with that shit hanging outside, two if it get below 50f you shouldn't be dumping all that heat outside point the rad at your feet and enjoy the warm toasty gaming of amd video cards
>>55444817
To clarify, pic is not my case.
I butchered my case partly by sawing a hole on top for the duct which is why I could put the fan in an insulation box.
>>55445190
Insulation is easy when you're willing to modify your case.
Closed loop water coolers just don't make sense.
They don't outperform normal air while being much more expensive and if you're willing to modify you can do a lot more with air with the use of ducts.
Unless those closed loop coolers somehow have extension tubes to increase their reach which I doubt is even possible because that would require a much stronger pump too.
>>55438506
My NH D15 would like a word.
>>55445253
that word would be
>I tried but couldnt keep up with the best AIOs
What do you guys think of Phanteks
>>55444879
Hot air removal is done by case fans, not CPU cooler fans.
The idea is to cool the mobo with moving air. You might say it's heated air but it's probably 30-40C air which is still cool.
>>55445264
Except it is within like 1-2 degrees of the best AiO coolers, but with the benefits of being less noisy, simpler, more reliable, and works passively ever if both fans managed to fail.
My 4790k is at 4.7ghz and I have zero doubts I could push it further without issue. A 100% use stress test for 8 hours straight in an upstairs, non air-conditioned room, in August, and it never broke 85c, and it idles at 26c.
>>55444879
yeah, they blow onto the motherboard. It's mainly just to get airflow through the pipes. Air travels from high pressure to low pressure and there aren't pockets of high-pressure around the mother board.
>>55445455
It also provides some airflow over the vrm heatsink.
>>55438482
agreed OP.
my dh15 while big and ugly performs on the same level. as a good AIO
my 4670k at 4.6ghz stable af isnt complaining.
besides overclocking the cpu isnt all that important anymore
>>55444765
Focus on the Fuma you dope, it costs HALF of the overly memed Noctua browns and performs just as well.
>>55438482
Useless for CPU, great for GPU
>>55444782
nice try faggot
the winner and best small cooler is the cryorig c7
>>55445443
Not true at all, the larger 280mm+ AIOs run cooler and quieter with the right fans.
And with loud fans (Noctua Industrial 3000RPM or similar) you can significantly outperform any air cooler.
>>55438482
Because it appeals to retarded MAXIMUM GAYMURS from reddit who think that water cooling is magical and doesn't rely on a fan to cool while having limited lifetime, costing double as much as a good air cooler with the same or even less performance and being noisy as fuck no matter what due to their shitty pumps.
>>55445635
nice senpai, that is pretty cute.
>>55445635
Nigga that's kawaii as fuck.
>>55445247
i was talking about full custom watercooling, not AIO coolers, unless you include expandable AIOs like the ek predator or the swiftech h220x coolers
and yea, you'd probably need a better pump with more head pressure if you are running more than 6-8 feet of tubing, the pressure drop would add up quickly unless you put a pump near the rad and a pump in the case, but that's ridiculous, just get a serial pump top and call it a day
>>55438853
I buddy of mine has had the same one for the last 5 years running non stop in his PC, I have used 4 different ones in my builds and sold all my old ones , 2 of them to friends that are still using them for 2-3 years and counting. I have also ran all of mine in silent mode and they are inaudible and get great temps. Currently running a Corsair H115i on silent with a 6700K at 4.7GHz and my temps max out at 68C after a 15 hour stress test. There's literally nothing wrong with AIO coolers.
>ITT
>assmad noctua buyer remorse purchases
>>55438900
just look at the noise level.
watercooling is for plebs.
I like the idea of AIB watercoolers for one reason: they don't put the gigantic weight of a 1 kilo slab of metal on the motherboard.
However I'm not convinced on them since they have a pump that makes noise... I can set air coolers to be inaudible, but would have no control over the pump noise in such a thing.
>>55443795
Why is updraft weird? Arn't you exhausting the case and cooling the motherboard at the same time?
>>55446201
My x61's pump is completely inaudible, you'd notice the fans if anything.
>switch to custom loop
>immediately lose interest in cooling discussions forever
Feels empty man
>>55445190
>unless it drops below freezing
you know that the dew point varies wildly from location to location and based on atmospheric conditions, right?
>>55446349
did you get those insane temps you dreamed of anon? was it worth the $500?
>>55446381
nah I get pretty average retail tier temps but my fans never spins above 600 rpm.
>more noise
>more heat
>more failures
>more cost
they have one purpose, and one purpose only
small form factor builds where you can't fit a $50~80 air cooler inside the case, and need to route the cooling system to some other area
>>55446309
they're weird because they are rare, even though they would work better
>>55439891
thought most coolants aren't water based or conductive?
>>55438482
I got AIO watercooling for my CPU because I have like 7CM of space above my CPU, thats it
Otherwise yeah, I'd have gotten air cooling
>>55446371
what is it with you faggot cherry picking your arguments?
did you read the rest of that line of text?
>>55446467
>>55444817
kek
