Windows 7
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.
You are currently reading a thread in /g/ - Technology
You are currently reading a thread in /g/ - Technology
What to do when Microsoft stops windows 7 support in 2020?
I really dislike Apple but they seem to be the runner up in available software.
Pic very fucking related.
I tried software to stop the communication but it's not possible to block 100%, and keeping it blocked after the unwanted updates.
>>55424417
If you have patience you can do a Hackintosh. Well worth the learning curve if you want to know how osx works and are willing to learn.
>>55424417
Install windows 10 service pack whatever it is my then and stop being a paranoid loony.
>>55424417
Keep using 7 until developers stop supporting it, then move to Linux Mint c:
>>55424448
>mfw he thinks 7 doesnt have backdoors
>>55424434
Don't I need to have the same hardware specs as apple devices for this?
>>55424448
Disregarded. I don't accept the 'OS as a service' model with the the large amount of useless communication.
They are trying to copy google but instead of google they don't offer more functionality with the privacy compromise.
>>55424512
I've used Linux, but not all software that I use is available there.
>>55424520
It does. But the data exchange between win7 and microsoft is blockable, unlike win10.
>>55424584
>I've used Linux, but not all software that I use is available there.
Yeah, well, for now ther's noreason to move from 7. Not even in 2020. Only when software no longer gets created for it.
Don't know what you guys are crying about. Not well known per se however microsoft still supports windows xp.
>>55424584
what software do you need?
>>55424753
>microsoft still supports windows xp.
pls to cite your sources
>>55424620
Software development is already slowing down for win7, for example I tried to install remote play for playstation but it only supports 8.1, 10 and MAC.
I think I might have to buy some used mac(book) or figure out how to do hackintosh.
>>55424753
It only supports winxp for those who pay. The dutch government for example pays shitloads for continuous support.
>>55424755
That would be quite a list. But if you are aiming at the fact that linux has proper alternatives for everything I wouldn't agree 100% on that.
I also would like to be able to use new software, and also don't have to worry about future support or updates.
>>55424417
>What to do when Microsoft stops windows 7 support in 2020?
I hope at 2020 we will get working vGPU out of the box even on low end machines. Extra ram is already dirt cheap. So just run osx/linux as main os, wangblows for steam and another isolated windows vm for work if needed.
>>55424417
By the time support ends for Windows 7 everyone will be on Google OS.
>>55424829
It has proper alternatives for 99% of things you'd need
>>55424417
use debian
>>55424829
>linux has proper alternatives
eh, it's debatable. things like Photoshop definitely don't really have anything, and there's some pretty shit-tier audio software
>>55424884
Could you explain?
windows 7 has the same spying shit you memelord faggot. hope youre ready to install an obscure distro of linux on your trendy chinkpad and never use a mainstream site (like 4chan) if you want real privacy.
>>55425023
GIMP is good enough for most people's use cases
>>55425043
A lot of work must have gone into your use of words, very creative.
You can block the spying shit in win7, but win10 has a lot more and can undo your blocking work with updates that you also can't block or choose.
>>55424777
I mean proper software not that kind of botnet crap.
>>55425410
I like this one better (:
Move to Linux or buy a MacBook and install loonix
>>55424611
Sure but thats only the software/os side of things if you use modern inthell or ayymd cpu's you're fucked anyway mate.
>>55424417
Debian + cinnamon in my main computer.
And maybe i'll buy a shitty win10 computer to runo all the software that are not supported on linux + AP isolation for win10 + firewall or DMZ
>>55425614
>Apple
>Linux
>on intel hardware
how fucking dumb is /g/ seriously?
>>55424417
>I tried software to stop the communication but it's not possible to block 100%, and keeping it blocked after the unwanted updates.
Of course its not possible to block all connections, unless you run it in VM or something. "Telemetry component" will always be present, even on Enterprise devices, however, it is perfectly possible to limit packages content to as little as machine/OS ID and device class. With online searching components disabled, it will still periodicaly call home, to check if its up to date (MS suggest to block this by firewall).
By properly setting up your settings/policies, you can minimize connections to the point, when it doesnt basically contain any real info. On Enterprise, officially, thats it. MS have instructions on their TechNet sit.
Do you need more?
Turn my old rig into an airgapped Windows 7 machine for old vidya.
Virtualize Windows 10 on Linux if I haven't quit vidya completely by then. I know it's already possible to do KVM passthrough or whatever but virtualization will probably be even better by 2020, so I'm not too concerned.
>>55424417
Use 8.1 with classic shell and metro disabled.
It is probably the easiest option you have.
>>55425854
>Airgap
>Old Vidya
Wat.
>>55425854
>old vidya
what old vidya do you need win7 for that won't just run in wine or something
>>55424767
>>55424798
>what is POSReady 2009
>>55426118
Have you ever actually tried running stuff in wine? Its a piece of shit.
>>55426165
yeah i do it all the time, seems to work fine
i mean yeah it does depend on the game but it's surprisingly effective. was just playing Valkyria Chronicles in Wine the other night and it worked flawlessly
when i used to play LoL that worked pretty much no problem, too, same with Eve.
>>55424512
filtered
>>55426259
lol (:
>>55426359
Not him but:# Filter any namefags:
#/^(?!Anonymous$)/
/^Femanon*/
>>55424417
Keep running windows in a VM
>>55424417
Install FreeBSD.
>>55424417
>2020
>the year of cyberpunk
>these cucks will still be using Windows
>>55426359
Kys
>>55425023
Photoshop works fine on linux, I just have cs2 cause it was free
>>55425646
What is wrong with intel on linux?
>>55424417
PC-BSD
>been resisting the upgrade since day 1
>finally starting to break down
>in the acceptance phase
Someone fucking stop me
>>55427420
I actually like Krita a lot on Linux. It's primarily for digital drawing using a Wacom or equivalent tablet, but I actually like it more than Gimp for general purpose image editing.
>>55427518
Just >>55427164 or this >>55427497
>>55427518
had that mindset, at some point something fucked up, dir was noodles anyway, decided to format n go W10.
after a week of gutting out all the retarded shit out of W10 and writing a literal saga in hosts file, dare I say it moves around a lot better than W7/W8
(literally everything windows related to web/telemetry/phone home has been killed along with google ads, fb shit, skype shit, adobe, autodesk, etc)
feels nice, moves smooth.
gather your info, find a long ass walkthrough on what to kill (there's usually a [spoiler]reddit[/spoiler] thread dedicated to this) and take the plunge. (you have one month time to restore the old W7/W8 setup if you don't like W10).
personally I have grown to like it
>>55427790
>after a week of gutting out all the retarded shit out of W10 and writing a literal saga in hosts file
Enjoy your illusion of privacy. All your work can be, and probably is, bypassed once you receive updates.
Protip: your host file can be bypassed easily
>>55427876
>not just using disablewintracking and Spybot Anti Beacon
>not using peer block + ms lists
Takes me 5 minutes per computer.
>>55424417
If you have an intel CPU you are screwed no matter what OS you are using.
>>55427982
Takes me 0 minutes to "disable" the malware I installed (Hint: it's because I didn't install malware)
>>55427790
>>55427982
It's proprietary software. You can only remove as much as you're aware of, meaning there's always the possibility of back doors. You could find and remove a hundred problems, and for all you know there's thousands more.
You're a complete idiot if you think you aren't being spied on just because you followed some online tutorials. You have the illusion of freedom, and the only real freedom is running 100% free software.
>>55427982
I am sure all your computers are privacy friendly now!
>>55428035
Yes, I'm sure your Fisher Price See-N-Say is botnet free.
>>55428103
Ms doesn't care. The people who do what I do aren't worth the time and money.
>>55428111
More than Linux and mac. Spybot Anti Beacon and peer block don't even work on those OSes.
>>55428153
>>55428153
>More than Linux and mac. Spybot Anti Beacon and peer block don't even work on those OSes.
Too obvious famalam
>>55428153
>Spyware 10 is more privacy friendly than Linux
Lmao
>>55424417
>What to do when Microsoft stops windows 7 support in 2020?
You sure you don't have installed optional updates in win 7? If yes you probably have the same telemetric package as win 10.
>>55428153
If you believe that "MS doesn't care" then why do you bother attempting to remove spyware at all? Why not just give as much of your data and info to them as possible?
It sounds like you don't understand the fundamental differences between free software and non-free (typically proprietary) software. See https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary.en.html
>>55428260
Google makes most of their money on ad revenue
Google makes a Web browser with a built in api that they made
Google allows ad blocking programs, that make money from companies that pay the ad blockers to white list them, to work in their browser
Thus, Google doesn't care.
Just like how ms allows all these programs to run and Block all their spying. So they don't care.
There is no reason to run windows outside a virtual machine, /g/
>>55428299
MS knows that using those programs is futile
>>55428333
I can see them working.
>>55428103
Im getting tired of all this "if it is not open source, it must be EVIL" approach.
>>55428299
Its not like they dont care, it is more like how small percent of users actually block all of this.
Hell, MS provide instructions for companies, how to cut down connections to their servers. More than 3/4 of Win10 users dont even change default settings, so this dont affect them that much.
>>55428348
>this placebo is definitely doing its job
>>55428299
>>55428426
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html
Non-free software isn't inherently evil, but it certainly gives the developer of that software power over the user, which leads to shit like this. Stop being such a fucking drone.
>>55428491
>he has to make up words to reinforce his arguments.
>>55428538
Governments give power over people, yet you chose one over living in the woods and wiping your ass with leaves.
>>55428538
>but it certainly gives the developer of that software power over the user
It can. Yet, you act like if ALL devs use this for their own gains, always at the cost of those poor users.
You think you control the open source software? Did you really checked every single line of code? Dont you just run what other prepared before, with the only difference being that one dev want to earn money for living and refuse to share the fruits of their own work, while others are okay with this and give it to everyone?
>gnu.org
Oh for fuck sake, I once checked their site in my own laguage and found part about how pirating is good, but they are not eally pirating but "liberating software".
>>55428557
>he has to spout a red-herring to reinforce his lack of argument
>>55428617
>all this cognitive dissonance
You are exactly Microsoft's target audience. Enjoy Windows 10!
>>55428641
Jesus, the Linux shills are getting desperate.
Enjoy your $0.50 per hour shit posting that doesn't even allow you to afford a chromebook.
>>55428679
GNU/Linux.
>>55428641
Yeah, I could say the same about you.
The more I deal with open source supporters, the more fanatics I meet, maybe not biggest part of whole (I truly hope so) but most vocal. Everything "countered" with their own, almost religious, dogma about evil of closed source and glory of open one. I way too often run into logical fallacy like "if they can do something evil, they definietly WILL because they CAN". When I cite MS own articles, I hear "lol believing MS" - which is retarded in own way, since their OS line is closed code and thus the very authors of it are the most certain source, something that cannot be said about multiple "tests" that are cited as proofs, where authors rarely even provided details about what options they use (except from laconic "Enterprise with all anti-telemetry stepps taken" - only to later scream over mutliple calls, because they forgot about telling Cortana to fuck off and dont use web searches in start menu or by disabling one of components without disabling the related services, causing their OS to maniacally repeat calls). Like talking with Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>55428576
Actually I didn't choose my government because I was born into it. Also this is irrelevant because governments are completely different from software, you fucking idiot.
>>55428617
>you act like if ALL devs use this for their own gains, always at the cost of those poor users.
Look, the point I'm trying to make (which you can't deny) is that proprietary software restricts freedoms. You aren't fully aware of what it's doing and you can't change what it's doing. If you're the same moron who uses "Spybot Anti Beacon" and shit, then you're wasting your time because you have no idea what other shit MS has hidden from you.
>>55428679
I'm not "shilling" anything, I'm supporting something that I care about by spreading information and having a discussion.
>>55428801
>When I cite MS own articles, I hear "lol believing MS" - which is retarded in own way, since their OS line is closed code and thus the very authors of it are the most certain source, something that cannot be said about multiple "tests" that are cited as proofs, where authors rarely even provided details about what options they use (except from laconic "Enterprise with all anti-telemetry stepps taken" - only to later scream over mutliple calls, because they forgot about telling Cortana to fuck off and dont use web searches in start menu or by disabling one of components without disabling the related services, causing their OS to maniacally repeat calls).
What the fuck am I even reading? It devolved into a garbled mess of broken English by the end.
>>55428807
And my point was that you might not be aware about everything in open source software, unless you actually checked all the code yourself. And that while you assume that they MUST be hiding something, I assume that they dont do more than what is described in official documentation, especially since analisis so far dont show anything more in net traffic, that was is already described.
Living in Europe and not in US also change situation a little.
>>55427475
Intel is backdoored
>>55428919
Yup, English is not my native language, but netherless, I should split it into multiple sentences, instead of one long, divided by commas.
>>55427982
>he doesn't know that people have recorded data being uploaded to websites not owned by Microsoft which weren't blocked by their blacklists
>he doesn't know that Microsoft is grand master sensei of jewdaism.
>>55428999
>you might not be aware about everything in open source software, unless you actually checked all the code yourself.
Yeah, that's why free software is good. Thanks for agreeing.
>while you assume that they MUST be hiding something, I assume that they dont do more than what is described in official documentation, especially since analisis so far dont show anything more in net traffic, that was is already described.
I don't "assume that they must be hiding something," I know that they are because they have a history and things are revealed all the time.
The reason I endorse free software and reject proprietary isn't because I think all proprietary developers are inherently evil, or that all their software is inherently spying on me. I reject proprietary software because (as I already said) it restricts freedoms and it gives certain people power over users of their software. I don't want power held over me (or others) in that way.
>>55428617
>pirating is bad hurr durr
Kys
>>55424777
>MAC
triggered
