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I'll start
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Fuck I meant underappreciated*
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>emphasis on KDE and Qt technologies
so it's shit
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Every one of them
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>>55409656
Windows 10.
>Modern user interface.
>Cortana (no other OS has anything similar).
>Troubleshooting.
>Customising start menu.

No other OS has any of these attributes; everyone gives Windows 10 a lot of stick due to the tinfoil claims of "botnet". Only an idiot would take what they say seriously.
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>>55410199
Go away pajeet
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>Chakra

Nice try, Pajeet.
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>>55410199
>troubleshooting
Quite a lot of troubleshooting actually
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Chakra and Kaos. Solus.
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>>55409656

Chakra is nice.. I remember trying to partition the hd with the installer,, ended up booting a gparted disk to configure the hd before installing.. maybe this is fixed..
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>>55410270

>Solus

Fuck yea.

I don't get the hate on Solus, they are actually trying to make a solid package manager rather than re-use some crappy/bloated one from another distro.
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>>55410199

>Modern user interface. (So does mac, and most linux distros)
>Cortana. (Does anyone really use cortana? Would I want something like Cortana?)
>Troubleshooting. (There are like millions of websites that deals with every aspect of problems with every OS)
>Customising start menu. (Tried linux?)
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>>55410199
>Modern user interface.
KDE, Gnome.
>Cortana (no other OS has anything similar).
True.
>Troubleshooting.
Yes the "Something happened :(" OS surely wins in troubleshooting.
>Customising start menu.
Nigga I can use themes. That's not even impressive, but it's more than Windows allows. I could change my Window Manager if I wanted.
>No other OS has any of these attributes; everyone gives Windows 10 a lot of stick due to the tinfoil claims of "botnet". Only an idiot would take what they say seriously.
I wouldn't take them seriously if Window's EULA itself didn't say they can look at my personal files for any reason they want.
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>>55409656
Zorin.
Auto install vbadditions(if you're on VB)
Comes pre-installed with loads of software(office,simple games, Wine, tools etc..)
Comes with loads of themes and addons.
Very fast.
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>>55410407
>I don't get the hate on Solus

Nobody hates Solus. Why somebody would hate Solus?
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Deepin it just werks™
Comes with an official version of crossover, it's own app store, based off Debian, easy to install apps, easily uninstall software, updates are great, and looks nice in general
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>>55410733
this looks like OSX's inbred cousin
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>>55410783
that's one sexy cousin
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>>55409800
>>55410199
>>55410566
>>55410733
Woah
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>>55410733
>Deepin 它只是工作™
interesting
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Solus should be more popular than elementary 2bh
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what the fuck is with all these distros, I don't even know half of these
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>>55410733
i see it's based off debian sid.
isn't that a bad idea for something that has to just werk
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Void
Alpine
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>>55411103
They just add more fragmentation to the already small communitty. Instead of 15-20 great distros we have 187 amateur projects.
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>>55410912
piss off you pretentious faggot.
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Fairly quick on older machines and it plays well with Broadcom hardware out of the box.
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>>55411268
Realistically, there is only ~15 distros users even bother considering. The rest are exclusively trying to solve problems they see apparent, and some of these distros replace some spot in the above noted 15 distros.
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>>55411398
And those 15 distros are realistically unpolished, buggy, bad QA, etc. for desktop PCs for the average Joe.
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>>55410528
>I wouldn't take them seriously if Window's EULA itself didn't say they can look at my personal files for any reason they want.

False.
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>>55411476
Right, but the average joe is exclusively deciding between windows, ubuntu, or mac. Those other distros don't even pop up as an option to them unless they're talking to someone relatively knowledgeable who is suggesting things like mint.
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>>55411476

Not all 15 are for the average joe.
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Parrot OS replaced Kali in our computer shop because it's made by an actual security firm and not a bunch of volunteers.

We actually distribute elementary OS to the old ladies who have trouble with the power button.
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>>55411522
My point is Ubuntu or Mint would be 10 times better if the amount of developers didn'tt waste their time on pointless forks. How many distros are based on debian/ubuntu? 100? So much resources wasted.
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>>55411613

How are they wasting their time? It's not up to you or anyone else to decide how those developers spend their time on a free project.
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>>55411571
>Using Kali in a computer shop.
Jesus Christ what's wrong with your business? Is the owner an 11 year old H4x3r or something?
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>>55411613
Not really. The people who moved away from the likes of Ubuntu/Mint, did so due to differences in views, and now work on other distros. That's the joys of os, they can move freely in their work and not have to force themselves to work on something just because.

Basically everyone wins, devs can work on something that aligns with their views, users can use a distro that aligns with their wants/needs, users don't have to deal with a bunch of crap because devs have completely different visions (a very good and superficial example is the win 8 aesthetics tbqh) and no one is forced to eat shit because they have no alternatives.
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>>55411629

I am the owner.

>tell customer they have security holes
>boot kali on another machine and show them their packets
>customer drops $5000 on corporate-grade firewall
>profit

Independent shops, m8.
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>>55409656
Q4OS.
>intuitive interface that's a continuation of KDE's pre-bloat days
>easy to use third-party tool that can make it look exactly like Windows XP if so desired
>Installation allows you to go with just the basics or a fully configured desktop
>Light, using less than 200 MB of RAM on my old tower with 1 GB.
>Options based on Debian stable and Debian testing.
Seriously, it's fantastic.
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any of these distros ditch systemd or officially support alternatives to systemd?
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>>55411727
why bother going through that much work, just open up a slideshow presentation with some fake data lmao
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>>55411628
>>55411654


This wouldn't be a problem if we lived in a world where 50% of desktop users were Linux users. But with 2% every hand matters. We are still using Xorg in 2016, just saying.
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>>55411103
Ive tried them all.. ended up with Fedora
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>>55412004
>We are still using Xorg in 2016
We're in the process of moving to wayland in 2016. This whole concept of "force everyone to work on a small number of projects" is what causes stagnation like xorg to occur in the first place.
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>>55412004
Xorg isn't bad, it just uses shit like xml configuration.
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>>55411971

Takes longer to start Kali, at $65 an hour that matters.

And, I don't give a damn what you think.
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>>55412080
Wayland was announced like 6 years ago. The waste of already small resources if what causes stagnation.

>>55412088

Tearing. Bad multiscreen. Code from 1980's in my 2015 laptop.
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>>55412140
>at $65 an hour that matters.
So wouldn't it make sense to use things that take longer to open and therefore you can charge clients more?
>And, I don't give a damn what you think.
lmao@u
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>>55412142
>Tearing.
never happened to me
>Bad multiscreen.
works fine for me
>Code from 1980's in my 2015 laptop.
if it works, it works. appealing to novelty is a fallacy, anon
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>>55409656
NixOS
Solus
Bedrock Linux

Last one is probably the most underappreciated of them all. You can literally install any package from any major distribution and have them work together.
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>>55412263
solus is nice but not enough to rip my normies from elementary
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>>55412205
>never happened to me
>works fine for me
>me
>me

There are a lot of people who has these problems. Get your head out of your own ass and you will see it.

>appealing to novelty is a fallacy

Xorg needs a replacement not only because is old, because the problems are unfixable due to the old code in its core. This code was writen when having a mouse with two buttons was a luxury.
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>>55412345
i dunno, maybe you're using it wrong?

if you can't convince me the problems exist, why should i support a xorg replacement with xorg works just fine?
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>>55412345
>Xorg needs a replacement
and the replacement is on its way why is this conversation even occurring, is it impatience?
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>>55412205
tearing is a known and common problem, just because it never happened to you doesn't mean you get to pretend it doesn't exist or someone else is "using it wrong"
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>>55410199
>>Troubleshooting.
Does it work without internet connection?
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>>55412142
>Wayland was announced like 6 years ago.
core protocol or whatever is required for adoption has also been finished for like 2 years. The ball is now with the Desktop environments, maintainers, compositor devs etc. https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/ is informative about the KDE transition.
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Yeah I tried this, hod sume issues with hardware but overall interesting distro.
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>>55412522
https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/06/a-task-manager-for-the-plasma-wayland-session/
Jeez, some of this stuff about how wayland works is just so braindamaged. Ye, it's horrible and stupid in Xorg that any application can look at the keyboard input of any other application and snoop all passwords and everything. But designing the system in such a way that no application can ever see what any other application or the system as a whole is doing is just as retarded. Like, this makes a simple screenshot program impossible. It makes a task manager impossible. I mean, why can't we do fine-grained control of permissions for applications as root with polkit or whatever? Why can't we make it so that there's a /etc/wayland.conf where you can specifiy this? Can the compositor implement that? Clearly it cannot be a solution that one program handles Window Management, providing a task manager, a desktop shell, a global shortcut manager like sxhkd, a screenshot tool and all the other shit.

Also, some stuf this guy suggests in the comments of https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/12/gaming-on-linux-move-to-next-generation/ scares the shit out of me.

All of this is just so retarded.
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What's the point of something like Solus? It's just gonna have a lot less packages than something based on Ubuntu/Debian.
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Can you already run Gnome fully on Wayland?
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>>55411504
It isn't false. Take the time to read the EULA or fuck off.
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>>55412975
point it out or fud somewhere else
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>>55413002
I'm not the poster who first claimed they could look at your photos, but he doesn't have to point anything out to you. The EULA is there for anybody to read. Go take your time to read it like we had to, or don't read it at all. Doesn't matter to me.
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>>55413299
i read it and it says nothing about that

so either i missed it or someone is spreading fud
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ITT: Hipster garbage
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>>55409800
t. Gnome developer
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>>55415832
GNOME is butthurt their userbase left for XFCE and MATE. Turns out sacrificing productivity for touch-hype doesn't work out so well.
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>>55410199
He said DISTROS, not PIECES OF SHIT.
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>>55415922
>GNOME is butthurt their userbase left for XFCE and MATE.
It's their own fault. If you literally remove basic features then it doesn't suprise me. The funny thing is that some people actually defend that ("too much options is a bad thing").
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Pic related. It's not linux btw.
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>>55409656
Chakra doesn't have any GNU gtk applications in the repo.

This gives a little idea how distros would suck without GNU
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>>55410199
well this new OS X distro that's supposed to be comming out is called Sierra, and it will support Siri

microsoft btfo once again ;^>
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>>55416754
>using the smiley with a carat nose and greater than mouth
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>>55409656
nice choice op
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>>55417714
That't Chakra. I used the distro before
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>>55417714
How do you get Screenfetch on Chakra? Did you just download it from github? What is its package name?
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>>55417896
i lied it's arch
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>>55418073
Shpuld i believe u or not
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>>55411742
I want
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>>55418218
idk
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>>55418250
PAJEET, GIVE IT UP, HOW DO I GET SCREENFETCH ON CHAKRA
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>>55418303
it's just a script, download it, chmod +x, run it
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>>55418308
Kek thanks pajeet XDSDDDDD
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>>55410912
I don't think I'll ever be able to unsee the obese dude in the arch logo. Thanks, /g/.
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You want a tiny 5MB OS for running under containers that still has a really good selection of packages?
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>>55410199
Not all the information about Windows 10's spying is false. Windows 10 *does* send more logs, error reports, etc. to Microsoft than previous versions of Windows. Also makes a lot of internet connections to many servers with obscure URLs. Either Microsoft is diversifying their hosting, or they're trying to make it difficult for Windows 10 to phone home.

For example, Microsoft gets statistics about how many photos are viewed with the Photos app. If you have your feedback level set to Full, Microsoft knows how much time you spend in each app.
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Solus is probably one of the best distros I've ever used, but god damn I don't want /g/ to ever post about it.

I don't want it to be a meme.
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>>55410199
>Cortana (no other OS has anything similar).

macOS Sierra is getting Siri.

https://www.apple.com/macos/sierra-preview/
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>>55410199
OS X
>Most modern
>Siri
>No troubles to begin with (smiley with carat nose)
>Launchpad (which oddly looks like windows 8's start) was always customizable.
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>>55410199
>>55418579
>>55416754
>>55418604
is siri/cortana really such a big issue? can't you just, i dunno, type words into a search box?

i can understand it on mobile devices where typing is fuck, but not on anything that you have keyboard capability with
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>>55411679

how install this
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>>55418636
it's not, it's just shills arguing with shills
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>>55418636
The voice response is a big part of it. People like the humanization. It's also good for accessibility.
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>>55418636
>>55418641
No it isn't, i just said siri to tell him that windows 10 isnt the only os what has an assistant
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>>55418638
http://sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot

other methods aren't supported anymore, but it's pretty easy, honestly (used to be a dev)

>>55418669
true, i didn't think about accessibility
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>>55409656
OS X.
Stylish
Fast
UNIX
Comparable
Multimedia production focused
Hackintosh master race.
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React OS
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>>55418250
How do you get a screenshot like that? I've seen it done on Macs before but how do I do it on linux?
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>>55418827
http://twily.info/scripts/scrotw#view
warning, ponies
i didn't make it
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>>55418835
Thanks anon
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>>55409656
Bedrock. Lets you mashup other distros to get the best bits. It makes Yoyo happy.
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>>55411727
So you're a scam artist who abuses the ignorance of what is most likely old people?

You sound like a realy stand up guy.
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>>55412723
Budgie is awesome, and the distro itself is dedicated solely to x64 desktop usage. No "nigger edition" for sparc users or some shit, just one focus, and the focus is making the desktop experience not shit.

Also the packaging system is fantastic, and super simple. It's very easy to make a package and submit it if it doesn't exist.
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>>55415832
Nah, gnome is shit too.
Actually, all of the DEs are shit, probably by the fault of X.
Fucking wayland when
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>>55412369
dear god linux users are retarded
t. pajeet hashari
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>>55410733
It looks like if macOS fucked Android 6 Marshmallow in the ass

And I like it.
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exherbo
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>>55410566
those grey folder
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>>55420446

>gentoo that only works with systemd
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>>55420716
>muh systemd boogeyman
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>>55417714
Why the fuck are you using chakra with openbox. Is like installing xubuntu to use cinnamon. The most retarded thing ever.
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>>55420716
It supports other INIT
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>>55410733
Except their GUI package manager is hot garbage and in true chink fashion only about 40% of features work without issues
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>>55419474
>So you're a scam artist who abuses the ignorance of what is most likely old people?
That's pretty much how you make money in the modern world
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>>55422465
>>55418073
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Void Linux
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>>55410199
Not to mention it's completely FREE and yet absolutely GREAT. Unlike shitnux.
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>>55412748
Yes
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>>55422968
It's NOT free and it's absolutely HORRIBLE, windumb
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>>55420193
Wayland won't change the DEs
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>>55416754
Sierra?
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>>55423039
Butthurt freetard detected
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>remix os
i can't believe no one typed that
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>>55426686
>a mobile OS for the desktop
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>>55426763
Filtered.
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>>55426875
The image? I never use it anyway so whatever
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>>55418636
No, it's not. Cortana and Siri are literally the reason why I don't even consider anything but an Android phone. It's not a "personal assistant," it's a phone with speech synthesis.
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>>55410199
Dubs doesn't lie. Windows 10 is great, it just works. I have spent years on different versions of Windows and 10 is stable and I don't have problems with it.
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>>55411742
I don't believe you.
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>>55418369
omfg why u do this
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>55411742
It looks beautiful
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Q4OS.
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>>55410566
Taskbar aside, that's nice looking. Is that a specific DE+theme?
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>>55411654
Win8 is still an acceptable design IMO. Win10 on the other hand...
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>>55429705
>bloated
>acceptable
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>templeOS not even ironically mentioned

is the meme over?
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>>55429705
>bloated
What does it even mean? We're talking DE aesthetics and workflow, not >muh botnet.
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>>55429123
I remember someone making "a small dick" version

You'll not be able to unsee that
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>>55412369
you are the only person not complaining about xorg. your the only one happy with how it works. your a fucking retard. get out man
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>>55418397
no.
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APODIO
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>>55418604
You're not even talking about OS but about DE tied with proprietary packages. Fine.

KDE
>Modern (people ask me my config every time I post a screenshot)
>Customizable as fuck with third-party KWin scripts, third-party windows decorations, third-party desktop effects, customizable focus, customizable system tray, customizable launch menu, you can fucking fork it
>What is LXDE
>What is Qubes OS
>Works out of the box
>One unified powerful settings gui. No third-party program needed.
>Spectacle, Kate, out-of-the-box clipboard manager, FUCKING TEA INFUSING MANAGER
>Usually comes with an out-of-the-box packages installer and manager that updates every program on your system in one single command line

I'm fine if you're running macOS or Windows, but don't dare say it (especially for Windows) is underrated.
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>>55432449
You named only 50% of arguments
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>>55432449
Where can I get that wallpaper?
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>>55432735
It's the default wallpaper for KDE 5.7, you can grab it from the repo.

https://github.com/KDE/breeze/tree/master/wallpapers/Next/contents/images
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>>55410199
This post made me believe in the pajeet conspiracy
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>>55429594
Fucking nostalgia.
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>>55418775
You forgot: Spyware
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>>55424425
It might fix screen tearing
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>>55424425
running wayland right now
it makes Gnome usable
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>>55436352
Which theme are you running? I'm using Wayland on Fedora 24 and I am struggling to find a theme which 'werks'
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>>55418369
Same.
They should really change their logo.
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>>55410733
>chinese
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