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"This week, China’s Sunway TaihuLight officially became the fastest supercomputer in the world. The previous champ? Also from China. What used to be an arms race for supercomputing primacy among technological nations has turned into a blowout. The Sunway TaihuLight is indeed a monster: theoretical peak performance of 125 petaflops, 10,649,600 cores, and 1.31 petabytes of primary memory."

how can white people's supercomputers even compare?

http://www.wired.com/2016/06/fastest-supercomputer-sunway-taihulight/
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>>55397951
USA has quantum computers.

China does not.
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>>55398094
and? nobody understands quantum computers. so china's supercomputer beats that.
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Serious question, what would a supercomputer even be used for in China?
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>>55398259
Weather forecasts I guess
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>>55398259
to develop smaller and more efficient twinks
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>>55398286
They don't need a supercomputer for that.

CHANCE OF SMOG: 99.99995%
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>>55398193
Faster, but they can't into software for it so its beaten out by Titan
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>>55398094
>USA has quantum computers.
No they don't.
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>>55398460
are you kidding? china has some of the best programmers in the world.
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>tfw i support China with every purchase i make even though it's like $0.0001
neato
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Yet they still don't have a single quantum computer

China btfo

Seriously, why even live?
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>>55398508
Yes they do

Look up the company d-wave

They have only sold computers to American government agencies and companies
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>>55397951
>public/commercially available

WEW

>>55398522

Ahahahahahahahahaha
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>>55398522
A room full of code monkeys does not a programmer make

They brute force everything
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>>55398624
bro, we're not there yet in our understanding of quantum computers, but you're right that it's highly likely that the US is going to be the first
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>>55398094
>USA has quantum computers

Hahaha oh wow. No they don't. Maybe they're researching and have proof of concept machines in some mad scientist laboratory somewhere, but not in practical application.
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>>55398766

Google has literally been using d-wave computers for years now

We are already in the era of quantum computers being used to solve real world problems
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>>55398755
just compile until it doesn't gives errors.
That's what everyone else does.
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>>55398795
Any scientist in the field will tell you we're 20 years into building parts of a quantum computer, let alone a complete one. Google has enough computer power to do what they do, without needing one.

Unless you believe in conspiracy theories,
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>>55397951
>theoretical
Yeah, let me know when you use it for shit also let me know when you have less of a child labour problem.
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>>55398859
>let me know when you use it for shit also let me know when you have less of a child labour problem
ok, sent ;)
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>>55398807
That makes you just as bad as the Chinese programmers

Let me guess, you went to a coding "bootcamp" and got a degree in ruby on rails?

Learn some fucking math and how to optimize your fucking algorithms and you won't get errors
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>>55397951
Its probably fake though. I mean, this is fucking China we're talking about.
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>>55398287
Now this is an initiative I can really get behind!
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>>55397951
Let them win. I don't care. Their life sucks and mine is passable. If they need that victory, that's their problem.
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>>55398624
>D-Wave Systems, Inc. is a quantum computing company, based in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada.

>Canada

Retard
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>>55398919
>I don't care. Their life sucks and mine is passable

chinese life is great. we have better girls than american.
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>>55398999
>we have women who pretend to be perfect cumdumpsters so we sugar daddy them until they reel us into a loveless marriage where we have to move in with our parents to make a boring sexless life full of artifice, overwhelming rules and forced conservatism.

Peddle your bullshit to someone else, chink. Asian culture is terrible, joyless and phoney.
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>>55399113
better than fat virgin american.
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>>55397951
Take away all of the shit they almost certainly stole/copied from US companies, then tell me if even 10% of this chinkputer is still standing.
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>>55399178
I'm neither a virgin or an american broski :^)
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>>55398999
>checked
can confirm, she looks breddy gud
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>>55397951
You realize they just cloned the architecture of there previously fastest supercomputer in the world. Which was just a bunch of xeon phi's they bought from us.
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>>55399221
>you'll never be a corporate spy working to further your homeland's interests

fugg.
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hello from /pol/

>>>/pol/79651629
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>>55397951
>theoretical peak performance of 125 petaflops, 10,649,600 cores, and 1.31 petabytes of primary memory.
>theoretical peak
>theoretical

What did they mean by this? Not even meme-ing, like what they did they actually mean by this? They don't even know what the machine is capable of? Sounds like a monster.
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>>55398999
>we have better girls than american.

Good luck getting one when its a gender ratio of two men per woman

Also mainland bitches are terrible in every way
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>>55399424
how do you mean? no problems for me.
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>>55397951
is it amd?
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>>55398795
Can you back up this outrageous claim with a sliver if evidence?

Didnt think so.
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>>55399424
>Also mainland bitches are terrible in every way

That's why you hook up with mainland guys. Duh.
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>>55397951
>how can white people's supercomputers even compare?
they can't

/thread
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>tfw you fell in the 1.31 petabytes RAM meme
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>>55399416
I'm no computer scientist, but I'm guessing it's because they haven't been able to test all 10 million fucking cores.
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>>55399773
it wouldn't turn on if they all didn't work
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>>55399840
that's not how super computers work.
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>>55399840
I didn't mean as in if they work. They assume that it must be around that. They haven't been able to run a performance test yet probably.
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>>55399858
you really think they don't run some kind of prequalification test before putting it in there?
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That's one helluva beast.

I wonder how fast they can crack encryption of various algorithms with this.
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>>55400375
they can't

the US won't allow it
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>>55400624
And they enforce this how?
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stuff like this reminds me of all the asian parents that push their children to play classical music.

they beat white kids hands down, but there are still no renowned asian orchestral composers.

asia will always be at the forefront of taking what everyone else is doing and doing it better.

they will not be at the forefront at doing the new thing first.

the very cultural memes that make them unparalleled replicators are the same that make their culture cold to innovation; not to mention they are monocultural, so their engineers work from one perspective, and they will always look for talent from their own country, whereas the US has its choice of assimilating talent found from the world over.

white people invent semiconductor >> china produces it in unparalleled quantity.
white people invent classical music >> chinese perform it like no other.
white people invent plastic surgery >> chinese perfect the art of looking european

it will also be white people invent quantum computer >> chinese will mass produce them.
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>>55400725
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>>55400731
>white people invent quantum computer >> chinese will mass produce them.

so what you're saying is that china will eventually build a quantum supercomputer which is larger than anyone else's
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>>55398259
Superfirewalls?
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>>55400753
probably, yeah.
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>>55400725
Spy inside
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>>55397951
That's all fine and dandy, but can it play crysis on ultra settings?
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>>55400825
no, it's incompatible with crysis so i don't think that would be possible unless a port was made
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>>55400801
I doubt it.

They will most certainly make use of this to spy on their own citizens, maybe not on foreign nations, but their own people, sure.
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>>55400835
Pft it's a plebian computer then. Install gentoo on it and move on.
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>>55400859
it's unlikely to be compatible with gentoo, sorry
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>>55397951

We're trying to into quantum computing, artificial intelligence, dronemail, and VR.

They can have their giant room that can crunch floats a wee be faster than our slightly smaller rooms that our PRIVATE SECTOR put out years ago.
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>>55397951
That's how China works. Their goverment pushes everything to the limit but it's still rotten at core.
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>>55397951
Who the fuck cares? Not like you jobless neckbeards have any use for one anyway or can somehow influence the outcome either way.
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>>55401237
>projecting this hard

Ayy
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>>55398850
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D-Wave has 3 different Quantum Computers for sale.
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>>55398353
Underrated post
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is this computer better than a human brain?

can we test the meme that we can't emulate brains because of lack of power?
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>>55401416
>is this computer better than a human brain?
No. Power alone is not enough.
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>>55401574
what's the computing power of the brain?
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>>55401600
42
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>>55398193
>>55398508
>>55398775
>>55398094
USA has freedom.
China does not.
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>>55401902
>go to jail for torrenting
>data caps
land of the free indeed
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>>55398949
>based in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada.
>They have only SOLD computers to American government agencies and companies
reading comprehension is hard, kids
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>>55402038
>freedom means theft
>freedom means communism
kike detected
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>>55398755
>They brute force everything
>china gets milkyway 2
>bruteforces sanic touhou yagami light processor and configuration
I can't wait to see what sanic shits out. China will have a 50 exaflop supercomputer by 2020.
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>>55402038
Commie fags end yourself
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>>55399416
The actual peak is lower and you need to optimize code for out to take advantage of the full power
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>>55402054
>>55402134
>freedom means I'm totally OK with corporations raping me
murica
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>>55400731
Chinks used to innovate in ancient times, but communism destroyed innovation
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>>55400847

The us has deeply penetrated every nations computer infrastructure

Like that korea sony hacking scandle. The us said 'we know it was korea because we watched the traffic route through chinese servers'.
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>>55401153
It's magnitudes faster than what the private sector ever did, and they done it twice
Also, those computers made by the private sector have massive grants by the government
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>>55401353
That's not a general purpose computer, they're really specialized machines that can perform only some instructions
They are even less capable than vector processors in general purpose computing
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>>55398850
go home you 10 year old.
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>>55402258

And the government in turn has massive classified supercomputers that outpace the private sector
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>>55402247
>this is what dumb muricans believe
ffs, learn a thing or two about infosec, or even technology, retard
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>>55402284
no it doesn't
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Why is it that instead of talking about the technology of supercomputers we are arguing over politics? It doesn't even matter, in a few years someone else will have the fastest one and then someone yet again will have the fastest.
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>>55397951
>how can white people's supercomputers even compare?

China's supercomputer runs on an American OS: Linux. HAHAHAHA
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>>55403324
>linux
>american
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>>55403340
And?

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2227163/linux/linus-torvalds-becomes-an-american-citizen.html
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>>55403372
And how does that make Linux American? Is he the only one who contributed to Linux? If you said something like redhat that would make more sense, but saying that Linux is American makes absolutely no sense.
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>>55403234

Whats Trinities actually performance then?

Go ahead and try to find out
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>>55403431
>based on unix
>hurr its not american

Are you going to say the internet isnt american because the world wide web(lol) was made by a brit?
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>>55403456
ok i found out now what
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>>55403476
>ok i found out now what

Did you really?

Whats the number ;^)
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>>55403562
31337
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>>55403562
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>55403797
(^:
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>>55402244
resistance is futile, you will be assimilated
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>>55403869
>using the backward smiley with a carat nose
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>>55402220
Gas yourself you filthy kike
I bet you vote Bernie Sanders you cuck
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>>55398999
I'd wager the ratio of hot woman to ugly women is worse in china than most places on earth. There's just so much more chinese and they kill SOOO many female babies that it seems like there's more hot women. I guess numericacly there are, but proportionally probably not, unless you count baby corpses.
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>>55401902
/thread
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So how realistic is it for a white person with a bachelor's degree and 5+ years relevant working experience in the IT industry to settle in mainland and live a modest live?
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>saw fatass with a fedora and questionble hygiene walking around with an asian qt at the grocery store
that guy is living the dream
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>>55405221
you would have to have sex with Chinese women (or men)

are you sure you're up to the challenge?
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>>55405221
try to land an offshore job with a company in your homeland
less stressful and will be much better
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>>55405281
I've prepared for years to practice the art of nailing Chinese women. I also bought earplugs.
>>55405288
I'm currently a wage slave. I might have to quit my job and become a freelancer so I have more flexibility when it comes to picking out job offers. Though I'm not sure if 5 years is enough experience to be a freelancer.
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>>55405372
>so I have more flexibility when it comes to picking out job offer
?
keep your current job and just start sending out applications and going to interviews
if it doesn't work out theres no harm done
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>>55400859
>american spy infiltrates chinese lab
>installs newest version of ubuntu on super computer
>fucking explodes from errors
>spy laughs, shouting "install gentoo" as he runs out of the lab, then proceeds to shitpost on /g/
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>>55405424
I meant getting hired by a company like Randstad. They provide on site temporary staffing all over the world. I'm not quite sure how one would call it.
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>>55397951
But can it run Crysis?
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>>55405610
see >>55400835
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>>55397951
>Used by the military and nobody from the outside can confirm their numbers
Nice one Mao, no go back to your Pentium 4 derivate
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>>55405610
what's a pupper?
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>>55405372
don't use earplugs

the noise is half the fun!
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>>55405610
sleep tight, pupper
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>>55405610
sleep tight, pupper
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>>55405610
sleep tight, pupper
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The thing about supercomputers is that it's not really about who can get the fastest CPU, but who can get the most amount of compute power in whatever room they have to hold it in, with a given budget. Anyone with a few billion dollars and a warehouse can get enough Xeons to beat the current fastest supercomputer.
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>>55406769
no, it's pretty much about who can get the fastest CPU
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>>55406950
>omg we da best in flops
>running second rate simulations

Bravo
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with distributed computing software in the mold of hadoop coupled with cloud computing systems, which makes erstwhile supercomputer-style tasks both scaleable and democratized, and not just the province of megacorps and governments

no one disputes asians can perfect technology they haven't invented, it's been like that since the late 19th century if not before
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>>55398949
most of the research into quantum computing is done at yale doe
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>>55397951
# 1 in supercomputers, also #1 in environmental hellholes.

I'd rather rent supercomputer time from foreign countries than choke on smog.
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>>55407144
but then you wouldn't have cute Chinese girls nearby
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>>55407248
No thinks. Chinese is literally the shittiest tier of Asian waifus. I'd take a dirty gook over a chink.

Japs > Gooks > Random Asian islanders > Chinks
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>>55407279
you're sure about that?
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>>55407324
Yes, yes I am.
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>>55407354
what's so bad about Chinese?

Chinese = qt
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>>55402273
Still quantum computers that are commercially available.
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>>55407373
Boring faces, big heads, generally less cute.

Never said they were hideous, but they're definitely bottom-tier of Asians. Just like Eastern European women are bottom tier of Europe but can still be mad hot.

Japs have those small features and a culture that revolves around cuteness so they're usually very bright and bouncy, I dig that. Chinks always seem pissed off.
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>>55407434
you are fat guy with keyboard
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>>55407434
filthy Japs won't be able to get you access to the best supercomputer

only possible with Chinese girl
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>>55407452
I'm actually almost underweight, but I don't see what that has to do anything .

>>55407454
>Rent supercomputer time from Chinese men because whores have no say in the matter
>Continue loving superior european waifu because I'm not an Asian fetishist anyway
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>>55407494
Chinese men are whores

you prefer men?
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>>55398624
>buying into the d-wave scam
protip: those aren't quantum computers, they're just calling it for the purposes of marketing and nobody can really sue them about it
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>>55401902
"Being allowed to" is not actual freedom.
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>>55407569
People in America who criticize the government don't "disappear".

We only murder people who actually try to do stuff like expose surveillance or try to testify against a known federal traitor.


CHECKMATE CHINKLAND.
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>>55399416
>What did they mean by this?
It's actually simple. Theoretical peak is the theoretical performance of each core * number of cores. This is what the supercomputer is capable of when some software is completely maxing it out.

However, in reality this never happens. There's always a bottleneck somewhere and software usually doesn't scale to a thousand cores without putting in some effort. You also have to factor in that such a supercomputer is not just a bigger version of your desktop PC, they often have a different architecture and different supercomputers have different architectures as well, so when you want to get the most out of one you have to program specifically for it.

The ratio of actual performance (there are standard benchmarks to get comparable values) compared to theoretical peak performance is an indicator for "how well" the machine was designed (or: for how bad the software is written for this design/architecture). The Chinese supercomputers so far are kinda bad at this. They basically throw money at the problem (good hardware) with mediocre engineering (architecture). This still works though and yields reasonable results.

TOP500 lists the 500 strongest supercomputers along with various values. Here's the current one: https://www.top500.org/lists/2016/06/ (Gets updated ~4 times per year)
Rpeak is the theoretical peak performance, Rmax is the actual performance when running a standardized benchmark called LINPACK.
You see, their latest supercomputer only achieves 74% of Rpeak. That's actually an improvement as the previous Chinese #1 only achieved 61% (now #2 on that list).
Compare to the Japanese supercomputer ranked #5 with 93%.

However, it's not that easy/fair. LINPACK is not equally "fair" when you e.g. compare vector processors against general purpose ones. A supercomputer can be built for a very specific task that it does very well but still gets bad numbers in LINPACK as it tests something the machine might be bad for.
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>>55407651
For some reason the website is down for me but it has a recent enough snapshot. It's just a static website anyway: https://web.archive.org/web/20160702192928/https://www.top500.org/lists/2016/06/
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>>55407494
>I'm actually almost underweight
So skinny and white, kk. Not really more successful than fat, sorry.
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>>55407354
Most Japanese girls don't like like the nice, cute, white models we see... Most girls are completely different.
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>>55401902
>monitored by nsa
>shot by school shooter
>liberal filth everywhere
muuhhh freeduuumbs
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>>55405281
>you would have to have sex with Chinese women (or men)
>are you sure you're up to the challenge?
Are chinese women like japanese in this regard?
And why are they like that?
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>>55397951
They need big computer to compensate small penises
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>>55407651
>they often have a different architecture and different supercomputers have different architectures as well, so when you want to get the most out of one you have to program specifically for it

What's programming for a supercomputer like? Do they use a specific language?
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>>55397951
It's cool. 2017 will bring the crown home. Summit will go online at Oak ridge with 250-300tflops.
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>>55401902
True, but what does that have to do with computing?
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>>55407279
Gooks >>>>>>>>>>>> Chinks > Asian Niggers >>>>>>>>>> Japs

I fixed that for you, anon.
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>>55401902

>martial state
>cops are a private military force
>can kill you for taking out your wallet
>can kill you if they suspect you are armed
>most dangerous gangs in the world are in USA
>delusional millennials, SJW, nu-males ruining every kind of media
>debt slave for education
>worst food in the world
>fat people everywhere
>they have to choose between a liberal cuck or a fucking insane modern Hitler

one point in favor is that I like your cars
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>>55412182
>plastic surgery
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>>55413073
>martial state
you mean a low-enforced country?
>cops are a private military force
you mean our publicly funded and publicly governed armed law enforcement sector?
>can kill you for taking out your wallet
you mean they can defend themselves against suspected threats? like an unannounced reach into a concealed container?
>can kill you if they suspect you are armed
you mean they can defend themselves if they feel like their life is threatened?
>most dangerous gangs in the world are in USA
you spelled Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and Mexico wrong
>delusional millennials, SJW, nu-males ruining every kind of media
conceded
>debt slave for education
you mean people who take unnecessary financial risks for no gain are debt slaves? who woulda thought? some of us made it through a Div 1 four year degree with no debt.
>worst food in the world
[citation needed]
see UK, central Africa, western South America, entirety of former USSR
>fat people everywhere
welcome to the entire planet Earth
>they have to choose between a liberal cuck or a fucking insane modern Hitler
Hillary isn't a cuck, but they are both awful; conceded
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>>55404420
lmao, you're an idiot. what makes you think all those killed are the pretty ones?

The killed babies wouldn't effect the pretty:ugly ratio at all.
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>>55398522
Toppest kek. Wouldn´t best programmers title go to hohols... for fuck sakes they make a unmanned buran flight with only 32Kb
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