>ctrl + f
>no gcg
so lets have one
I'm in for a replacement of my 660ti. It served me well but I want a more modern card for the next 4 years or something.
Can't decide between RX480 and 1070. 480 is obviously the best price/performance choice but it may be possible for me to just pay the extra round for the 1070 but I don't know if it is worth.
1070 has lower price/perf ofc especially here in Germosque as the cheapest price for one is 480€ (+ 6 weeks of wait) which is rougly 535$
vs the 480 for 270€/300$
Don't wanna pay goyim prices
>>55394669
don't fall for rx 480 meme card or your mobo shall explode
>>55394669
July 14th for AIB cards with 8 pin power connector just wait 10 days.
>>55396105
>Also 1060 reveal about that time.
Which 1080 AIB Should I Get?
Sapphire RX480 Nitro (Pictured)
Sapphire RX480 Nitro+
Sapphire RX480 Toxic
>>55396394
10/10
>>55396275
gainward/palit hit the sweet spot between quiet and performant. zotac sacks all others in performance.
>>55396394
but just how fast is it in terms of numbers? i need something that's at least 20 fast.
>>55396662
What about the MSI Seahawk X? Really liking what I'm seeing based off a review I'm reading.
>>55396941
not sure about the internals. it does look pretty sleek, although i'm not sure why theres a blower and a closed loop. shouldn't the water cooler be able to pull this off on its own?
As someone living in a poorfag country on a FX-6350 and a GTX660, would I be stupid for getting a second 660 since my mobo supports SLI and I can get the card for cheap, or is SLI too shit? New parts just cost too much here for me to afford them right now.
>>55397147
Water Cooler is just for the Processesing unit, the Blower cools the Ram and other shit.
>>55396632
>toxic
You best not be trolling anon - historically sapphire's toxic cards have been the cream of the crop.
>>55397311
i.e its shit.
I have an fx6300 + GTX770 2GB
Should I continue to follow the wait meme or should I upgrade soon?
My options are to go with a 6600k along with new ram and mobo, and wait a little longer for prices on the 1070 to drop, or just upgrade everything at once sometime next year.
as someone with a computer that is a couple of years old (CPU AMD FX-6300 & sapphire radeon r9 270 (2 gig version) would upgrading to a aftermarket version of the 480 be a huge jump (probably going to buy sapphires 480 after it comes out)
qts working at AMD :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcrhYMY7AI
>>55397364
Do it all at once.
>>55397386
The 480 murders a 270 - its twice as fast.
>>55397255
You might be better off just getting a gtx 950 used or waiting for an rx 460 (this is the better option, it'll probably be $99 and perform better than the gtx 950).
>>55397364
Wait for Zen + Kaby Lake to compare them. Worst case scenario is you can get a Skylake i5 for cheaper.
Wait for nitro 480 and 1060, or snag a 980 for $285 now? I don't upgrade often.
>>55398693
Wait. You'll have longer driver support with newer cards, on top of having the warranty so you can RMA it if you need to.
>>55399045
The 980 is new, not reference. I'm seriously considering it. Been waiting 6 months.
>>55399121
The 1060 will be like a 980 (give or take a few fps) with lower power consumption/heat output and longer driver support, and ever so slightly better dx12 support. Nvidia's dx12 implementation still isn't great, but it's slightly improved on Pascal from what I understand. At the very least, wait until the 1060 is announced in like 4 days to see if its worth it to continue waiting for a non reference version to become available.
gtx 1060 1260 cuda cores = 980 performance
gtx 1080 2560 cuda cores = 980 sli performance
rx 480 36 cu, 2304 cores = 970 peformance
rx 480 CF = 970 sli performance
Presumably unless Vega is an entirely new architecture Amd would need a part 2x the size of the 480 to reach just the gtx 1070, 72 cu 4608 cores over 10% larger than the Fury X. I find it unlikely that they are even going to try and match the 1080 ti when its released. They might not even be able to compete with the 1080.
>>55399121
1060 will be $299 msrp even if they don't do founders bs. That's a safe buy given that it will probably be slower and its a ref card even when it releases.
Why do Sapphire name their top cards "Toxic"?
Is it some poetry I'm missing?
>>55399208
It's possible that Polaris is more optimized for power efficiency than Vega at the cost of performance, and Vega will just be pretty power hungry but other competitive with Pascal.
>>55399186
If I'm that concerned about dx12, I'll likely just get an AMD card. When is it expected to become the majority of games?
Where the FUCK is the RX 470?
>>55399303
I'd say 2-3 years until it becomes standard. But you never know, Nvidia might pay off enough devs to make Vulkan the standard.
>>55399354
Nvidia doing something good for consumers for once?
Holy shit. Please let this happen.
>>55399366
>tfw this madman actually pulls it off and makes Linux gaming viable, freeing PC gamers from Microsoft
But serious question, if a game is already using Vulkan on Windows, how much would it cost to port the game to Linux?
>>55399435
AFAIK not much, if it's already running on Vulkan a massive chunk of work is done, however you still need to change the code that makes the game work with the Linux window managers and all that shit.
>>55399349
This. I'm want to see aftermarket versions of RX 470 or it's 1060 6GB for me.
Damn, why is Nvidia so adamant with 3gb instead of making 4GB
>>55399284
I'll say that's true and amd can power up their architecture to the point where 2304 of their cores can equal a gtx 980.
I'll also speculate that 1080 ti will be 3072 cuda cores. To match that performance Vega would need an insane 87 compute units with 5568 cores. That seems unfeasible if its even less efficient.
>>55399509
>why is Nvidia so adamant with 3gb instead of making 4GB
We don't even know if the leaks are accurate. If they do go with 3gb/6gb, I think its because 3gb is enough for 1080p and they're trying to make a budget card. Making it 4gb/6gb would provide people little incentive to buy the 6gb version, and they apparently can't do 8gb because of the 192bit memory bus or whatever.
Anyways, why would you be choosing between the 470 and the 1060? If anything, the 1050 would be competing with the 470.
>>55399509
Because they know people will pay more for less just because it has Nvidia branding on it.
Nvidia are the Apple of PC component manufacturers.
>>55399354
Not going to happen. Vulkan is derived from Mantle, which AMD designed. Nvidia would never go with an option that allows AMD cards to perform well.
They'll probably extend HairWorks to render non-visible ass hair or something, with real-time dingleberry movement in VR. So realistic you can almost smell Laura Croft's butthole.
>>55399509
>Damn, why is Nvidia so adamant with 3gb instead of making 4GB
3GB is fine for 1080p. If you look at actual tests that have been done on 2gb vs 4gb cards, there is almost no difference.
>>55399549
It's looking like 3gb might actually be a gtx 1050.
>>55399552
Nvidia is more like Microsoft or Google
Apple has no market share and is a niche product, while Windows/Nvidia/Google dominate their market
>>55399566
>Nvidia would never go with an option that allows AMD cards to perform well.
Nvidia has a slight edge in Vulkan actually. Considering it's the only option besides dx12, and dx12 gives AMD an advantage, Nvidia needs Vulkan to take off. Nvidia is touting how their graphics cards are Vulkan ready and all that for a reason. https://developer.nvidia.com/Vulkan
My 670 is on its deathbed. I was hoping to push it a couple more months but thats out the window
When should I expect 1080 prices and demand to mellow out so they're in stock and go back down to MSRP?
Am I looking at another month of waiting?
>>55399571
GTAV uses more than 3GB at 1080p easily, and that game is a year old.
>>55396632
isn't that designed backwards?
>>55399638
Even more Nvidia Vulkan shilling. https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/02/16/vulkan-graphics-api/ They really don't care that it's based off Mantle.
>>55399652
Look at the picture.
This is from a GTA V benchmark, it makes almost zero difference between 2gb and 4GB of VRAM.
I just bought two of these for a brand new broadwell-e build (6850K). Gonna be running them on an ultra wide 3440x1440 100hz Gsync. How long do you think they'll last? I haven't built a desktop in well over 5 years.
>>55399647
At least another month. I got lucky and ordered one off Newegg when they were in stock on Friday and paid $100 extra for another on on eBay...
>>55399692
>>55397386
I went from an FX 6300 and HD7850 to an RX 480. the improvement wasnt that great because the CPU is slow as fuck, and bottlenecks the 480 most games. I would invest in a better mobo and CPU before upgrading the gpu
Help me out someone. I need a good AMD card on par with or better then the 480 for a similar price.
Something that works really well with crossfire.
>>55399856
Why do you NEED amd? I'd wait to see about the GTX 1060.
>>55399873
Because I enjoy mining altcoins as well as gaming and from what I hear, Nvidia cards aren't very good for it.
>>55399873
>nvidiots are now waitfags
>>55399186
Problem is, if it wasn't worth the wait, the 980 will shot back up to $350 with, and thanks in part to, lower stocks.
>>55399679
What settings did they use in that benchmark?
>>55399354
Might grab that 980 then. Upgrade approximately every 3-4 years with upper mid range.
>Canadafag
>GTX1070 is too expensive (~$550 before tax absolute cheapest)
>RX480 doesn't perform quite good enough for me
Will the aftermarket Sapphire RX480s have significant performance improvements? I wanted something around the same level as the GTX980.
>>55399741
Makes sense. Got a 6600k, turns out my phenom ii x4 at 3.7Ghz was bottlenecking the shit out of my 7850, even at stock clocks. Let alone the 40% OC it hits.
>>55399239
That's the problem with the 1060 : it will probably be better than the 480, but will cost more, and thus not being directly into competition with AMD.
NVidia can do the fuck it wants with top tier, but if you're releasing a "entry level" card for 250+ bucks you can just fuck off. I don't care how much powerful, I have a budget to stay into.
Lads what should I replace my dying 7850 with? Budget 250 kangaroos.
>>55400033
You probably can't get much for 250 dollarydoos. You should consider emigrating.
>2016
>Still believing in OpenGL memes
I know I'm on /g/ and all but it's time to face fact that MS still literally owns pc market. If they say DX12 is the next API, then DX12 is the next big AP. OSX/Linux is like what? 3% market share?
>>55400072
Android = Vulkan
>>55400205
Android =/= PC gaming. There are way more limitations than API like actual hardware and controls. Ye sure I don't say Vulkan is DoA and it will probably come handy outside of gaming but when it comes to AAA games (You know, the reason why you should even consider buying an expensive GPU) most devs will probably stick to DX12 cuz 1) it's easier to use and doesn't require any training if you have exp with previous alterations 2) M$ will probably shill insane amount of money on it and nobody can fucking mess with M$.
>>55397392
Oh, I'm starting to see the picture. Company hires based on SJW bullshit and pajeets instead of qualifications. No wonder they are where they are, they're more focused on looking like the good guy than making a good product... granted they've been like that outside of just their hiring practices for a while now so I guess that's not very surprising.
>>55400254
Unreal Engine 4 and Source are both embracing Vulkan. It's certainly not dead on arrival.
>>55400383
No, but as per usual (for amd), either they themselves or their fans blew it way out of proportion and hailed it as the second coming of gpu-christ, when in reality it's yet another incremental improvement just like everything else, and they aren't the only ones doing it.
>>55400411
Vulkan isn't AMD, it's just based off of Mantle which is open source. AMD didn't really have much to do with the creation of Vulkan besides that. Nvidia is actually pushing Vulkan harder because AMD is so attached to dx12. That's why I believe Vulkan has a fighting chance, Nvidia owns so much market share that devs always optimize for Nvidia if they optimize for anyone, and Nvidia has the influence to encourage devs to adopt Vulkan.
Is this a good PC for web browsing and blu-ray movies?
>>55400561
You know you need a power supply, right?
>>55400597
I have everything else hdd, psu.. etc.
>>55399679
Gta v is really well optimized though. Shitteir console ports like that lord of the rings dark souls clone pull over 4gb on 1080p. It's all thanks to consoles having a little more vram and devs being lazy fucks.
>>55399998
No way to tell yet. The best oc you can get on reference cooler is like ~5% thanks to the relatively weak cooler and 6pin. In theory a ~15% oc should put it well above a stock 980 in almost all cases, but it remains to be seen if the gpu is actually even capable of such clock rates, rumors be damned.
>>55396632
I want Vapor-X
>>55399998
I'm a canadafag too.
I'm not really sure if you're saying this or not so don't take this personally (unless you are...), but lots of other people (from other non-US countries as well). I hope you don't base all your financial observations and decisions off of the subconscious belief that USD and CAD are the same, and that other things in Canada aren't marked up beyond that. You can look at video cards any generation and see the same price difference, but as soon as something new gets released, all the canada and aussifags bitch and moan like it's something new. Oh, you couldn't afford the $600(USD) 980ti because it's $900(CAD)? Man, I bet you'll be able to afford the $600(USD) 1080 though, it's only $600 dollars, right?
>>55399976
Maxed out 1080p
>>55400941
Doesn't matter how much it uses, ram is swapped in and out as cache.
What matters is actual performance.
Here's another one from Shadow of Mordor, like a 3fps difference between 2gb and 4gb.
RAM means almost nothing at 1080p
I want to see new AMD new high-end cards before buying something . 2017, right?
>>55401297
>never again, right?
>>55399741
Overclock to at least 4GHz and it'll be fine
>>55401202
Depends on the memory management of current and future engines. Consoles have 8GB of shared memory, so 4GB at 1080p is likely for High/Ultra on PC.
Shadow of Mordor is a dumb example considering how easy it is to run. Batman Arkham Knight destroyed 2GB cards.
>To enjoy Arkham City at high settings with normal quality textures (which is broadly on par with the console versions) and without some brutal stutter, you're going to need a graphics card with at least 3GB of VRAM, and 4GB if you want to push texture detail to high. Plug in a 2GB card - we tested an R9 285 and a GTX 960 - and the stutter is unavoidable. Developer Iron Galaxy hasn't really optimised the game for mainstream graphics cards at all - instead there's a VRAM indicator in the settings that tells you when you are going to experience sub-par performance. On a 2GB card, only by dropping texture quality to the lowest setting do you get developer approval for a smooth gameplay experience - an absolutely remarkable state of affairs and simply not good enough. Making matters worse is that using the 2GB R9 285, even with low textures, we still managed to get some noticeable stutter. It's a bit of a mess and it needn't have been like this. Many PC developers spend a lot of time behind the scenes devising background streaming to and from VRAM in order to offer visual parity with consoles for those with 2GB PC graphics cards. Arkham Knight effectively gives you two choices - to nerf the game's visuals, or else go out and buy a new GPU.
>>55400561
I'd build a smaller form factor media PC
>>55400033
Buy used or wait.
>>55399998
If you wanted 980 perf, why squabble over a few percent difference? DX12 is likely where you'll need extra performance anyway, which the 480 will provide.
Should I get a 780 ti for 165 from dealer-used, or a 1060 3gb?
1080pp gaming only.
>>55402488
Get a 290X
>>55402488
Depends on how broke you are; 1060 will be a better card but also more expensive and you'll have wait a while
>>55402488
Also a 280x will go for $115 used, which is almost as good as a 780Ti
Any guesses/rumors on the price of the 1060?
>>55402831
I see a lot of posts saying that it'll be around 300
>>55402992
>$300
Hot damn, Nvidia's pretty confident aren't they?
>>55402831
I feel like this is a pretty baseless price, considering the 760 (last die shrink) and the 960 (latest x60 release) both launched at 200. If it is 15% stronger than the 480 in DX11 at launch, 230-250 for the 3GB version is a possible AIB (not FE) price.
>>55403601
My AIB 960 (Asus GTX 960 Turbo 2GB) was like 250ish when new.
I just upgraded to the 480 and I'm liking the performance bump.
My 960 had a decent GPU on it that could take what the freq was maxed out in GPU tweak but going anything up on the VRAM was instant crashes.
The stock Reference 480 pulled 35% better in Firestrike and lets me run Overwatch supersampled and still be >90fps. The 960 would falter to sub 45fps when supersampled. But I think that was VRAM limitations the 4GB model might be a closer match in that regard.
But I Digress, the Gimped lower VRAM 1060 will be starting around the 260 mark, right above the 480 and provide worse performance, the full VRAM model will go for 300 and be stronger than the 8gb 480.
Can anybody tell me why Nvidia deemed it would be a good marketing decision to explicitly state its 1060 is 15% faster than rx480 whilst supposedly pricing it 25% higher (300 vs 239).
>>55404649
because they know the loyal nvidiots don't even see the price tag.
I have an i5 6600k and a pretty shit GTX 660, which of all the new cards should I go for to ensure solid 1080p gaming in new games like Mirror's Edge Catalyst at high settings?
rx 480 or gtx 1060
>>55404882
Thanks senpai
>>55404882
Wait to see what comes of the GTX 1060. Even then wait regardless for AIB 480's. I wouldn't ever recommend a reference cooler to anyone, nvidia or AMD. Unless you have plans on watercooling the card (but why would you spend $100 on a water block for a $200 card?). If the 1060 performs close to the GTX 980 and has 6gb VRAM, for $250-$300, then go for that. Keep in mind price gouging and reseller faggots will ensure you don't pay MSRP for any GPU's until the end of summer. Unless you're extremely fast and lucky, you wont be getting a reference 480 for its MSRP any time soon.
>>55400033
Used cards. I've seen 290's on eBay for as low as $225, and I saw a 780 on gumtree for $250 a few weeks ago.
>>55404975
>$250 780 vs $225 290
Fuck me why do people think the 780 is worth that much? A 780 is closer to a 280x these days than a 290.
>>55396105
>wait
Oh do ho ho ho
AYYMDfags always waiting for shit
>>55397392
That's what they get for hiring a female engineer.
AMD is FINISHED
Would a 1070 be bottlenecked by a i7 3770?
>>55404994
That was just the price I saw at the time. Someone was also selling a 780 with a waterblock for $200. A lot of the good prices for 290's (about $220) are all pick up only. I guess cunts don't want to pay the $10.05 postage.
>bought 4k ips monitor
>didn't care for it but it came with freesync
>want to buy nvidia now but it feels wrong
why is life so hard, guys?
Really torn on the 1070 or the 1080. I want to get a 1440p monitor and game at 1440p 60fps or above. Can the 1070 accomplish this for current titles and titles coming up over the next year?
>>55405171
No idea on future titles, but yes it can do that for current titles. Just look up 980ti 1440p benchmarks and assume that as your worst case scenario on a 1070. If you get the 1080 you wont have any problems hitting that mark at all.
Regardless, wait for AIB cards and for resellers to quit being cunts. Don't fuck yourself on impatience. Theres not going to be any competition to the 1070 and beyond until late this year or early next year.
>>55404994
>relative performance meme
not sure about the 780 but the 780ti still performs on par with the 980 and 390x these days, only problem with it is that it's vram limited so it's useless for gaming beyond 1080p.
>>55394669
I also cant decide. This is why we wait
>>55405182
So it will only be the 1080 guaranteed to run 1440p at or above 60 for the foreseeable future? A friend of mine bought a 4k monitor and its hilarious to know even with a 1080 none of his games will run at 60fps, especially future titles.
>>55405192
Yeah you are going to have to back that claim up with some evidence. I do have evidence though that the 780ti isn't performing that well.
>>55404649
because nvidia has the superior product (70% better perf/watt than gcn 1.4), brand reputation and the fact that they're not going to sell you a card that will kill your motherboard.
AMD fucked up and now NVIDIA can charge however much they want to.
>>55397364
wait for zen and if its shit get a skylake, also wait till the 10 series is in volume/small vega
>>55405192
What the hell are you talking about? I had both a 970 and 780ti, and the 970 performed better consistently. Plus it has more vram.
>>55398693
nitro 480
>>55405192
>>55405226
>fully upgraded mobo,cpu, and ram to the current gen
>stuck with my EVGA 780 until more 1080s come out and prices aren't outrageous
Wake me from this nightmare, its like owning a Corvette without the engine.
>>55405192
just face it the 780 ti is useless
see >>55405149
Thoughts on this build?
http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/gCKH99/great-gaming-build
>>55405208
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/bf3_1920_1080.png
>780ti within 5 fps of 390x
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/bf4_1920_1080.png
>780ti within 5 fps of 390x
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/gtav_1920_1080.png
>780ti outperforming 390x
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/anno2205_1920_1080.png
>780ti outperforming 390x and fury
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/images/crysis3_1920_1080.png
>780ti outperforming 980
your source is either cherrypicked to hell or straight up faked, almost every credible reviewer still gets decent perf out of the 780ti.
>>55405212
>the fact that they're not going to sell you a card that will kill your motherboard.
Opinion disregarded
Any estimated prices for the vega cards?
>>55405256
Go look for yourself - the chart comes from guru3d. However I do not know the sauce for this chart.
>>55405256
you forget that that thing was $800 for decent non reference cards and now preforms worse than a $200 card
>>55405267
small vega = $350-500
big vega = $550-650
>>55405282
>>55405282
>$800 for decent non reference cards and now preforms worse than a $200 card
you mean a $500 card - the 980, 390x and fury are all $500 still. never said they were a good value anyway, just that they still get passable performance. anyone who buys one now would just be an idiot.
>>55405256
>cherrypicking 5 games vs a total score on 30 games
fuck off nvidia shill the 780 ti is shit tier now
All I do is emulate. Will a 1080ti benefit me?
>>55404956
Check this out famalam. Cheapest 980 costs 450 euro here.
>>55405293
the 390 preforms on par with a 780 ti
the 480 is also on par with the 390
so the 480 is on par with the 780 ti
for 25% the cost at launch
>>55397364
If you are happy with your frames stay with your config until the next 14nm implementations...
>>55405307
>anyone who states facts that i dislike is a shill
kek, i actually own an AMD GPU, just don't believe in blind fanboyism like the rabid children here.
i have gtx 760 and i am planning on strix 1070. should i wait or go for it
480 aint an option cause i have window in my rack :D
>>55405320
no you dont fuck off and stop shilling the 780 ti, it is shit tier and has the preformance of a 200$ card
>>55405320
Those who buy AMD are the fanboys.
Literally no one will buy them unless you are a masochist.
>>55405323
>480 aint an option cause i have window in my rack :D
repeat that in english nigger
>>55405331
>it's shilling to not attack nvidia every waking moment of your life
>>55405334
N/v/idia shills belong on /v/
>>>/v/
>>55405331
How DARE you suggest the 780ti can't keep up with AMD's shitty housefire cards.
>>55405334
anyone who buys AMD after all the rebrands and motherboard killing is just asking for a bad time, but AMD was pretty competitive with the 79xx cards and 290x.
>>55405339
releasing a $750 card that is out preformed by a $300 card the next year is fucking irredeemable so stop shilling nvidia you dumb cuck
>>55405351
780ti on par with a 380
wew lad nvidia at their best
>>55405355
>but AMD was pretty competitive with the 79xx cards and 290x
Not counting their worser power efficiency and housefires
>>55405355
>its ok when nvidia does it
what was the entire 700, 500, 200 and 9000 series then you mong
>>55405357
except that didn't happen with the 780ti, since it still has the performance of a $500 card. it has actually depreciated less than cards like the 290x.
290x launched at $600 -> now available for as low as $250 new or $200 used/refurb
780ti launched at $700 -> now has the performance equal to a $500 980 or fury
>>55405337
sorry i couldnt remember what case was in english
>>55405346
>implying I am shilling
I'm helping customers get a better video card and avoid housefires.
>>55405377
>>55405355
N/v/idia shills belong on /v/
>>>/v/
>>55405380
the r9 290x was $550 and the 780 ti was $750
and
>it has actually depreciated less than cards like the 290x.
see pic related
the 780 ti is worthless
>>55405378
200 series wasn't a straight rebrand, tesla 2.0 was it's own architecture
9000, 500 and 700 series all had products moved down a tier with price drops.
to contrast with AMD's rebrands, all they did was slap a 50mhz overclock (which you can do on any stock 7970, 290 or 290x) and increased the price considerably. they're borderline ripoffs.
>>55405417
they moved them down like nvidia too you fucking mongoloid
again
>its ok when nvidia does it
>>55405434
>they moved them down like nvidia too you fucking mongoloid
290x $330 -> 390x -> $430
290 $250 -> 390 $330
they actually moved the cards up a tier price-wise, but kept them at the same tier name-wise. AMD shot themselves in a foot with rebranding, and didn't even do it correctly.
>>55405448
Yet the 390x was still better than the 980, AMD earned the right to charge more for it let alone the 390x had improved non reference designs at launch. can you at least make your shilling less obvious
>>55399463
And that's where wine comes in, just look at DOOM 2016
>>55405471
>Yet the 390x was still better than the 980,
the 390x is just an OCed 290x, stock for stock a 980 is considerably faster (in fact, a 970 is actually faster than a stock 290x, pic related). an OCed 980 will easily beat the OCed 290x as well.
the big problem with AMD's rebranding has a lot to do with the fact that they raised the price for that trivial overclock. an example of when they did it right was with the 7970ghz/280x, which actually dropped in price from $500 to $300.
>>55405496
forgot pic
>>55405507
>mantle
outdated benchmark
here is something a little more up to date
>release 6 different tiers of cards with 2 different memory specs for each tier
Why not just 2 cards, normal and enthusiast?
>>55394669
futere wise->480
>dx11 wise >1070
>>55405526
>1440p
nice try :^)
>>55405496
>trivial overclock
and better non reference designs, power delivery firmware, and improved yields and better overclocking headroom
if you think the only thing they did was a overclock then you seriously belong on /v/
>>>/v/
>>55399435
>nvidia doing something for gamers
this should be a new meme
>>55405551
literally no difference and
>1080p
>2016
wew lad are you poor or something
>>55405256
you know its an nvidia shill when he still uses bf3 as a relevant benchmark
>>55405558
>if you think the only thing they did was a overclock then you seriously belong on /v/
that is the only difference, clock for clock performance is the same between the 290/390 and 290x/390x. they didn't even respin like NVIDIA normally does when they rebrand.
>>55405568
>wew lad are you poor or something
1080p is the most common resolution and these shitty rebrands can't even hit ~60fps at 1440p, so it's absolutely useless to even consider it unless you buy modern high end cards like the 980ti or 1080.
>>55405594
my 290x can do 1440p 60fps so nice try
>>55405579
Its why TPU use it for overclocking - Nvidia cards all show impressive gains in it but AMD ones do not.
>>55405619
that has more to do with the fact that AMD's recent cards have almost no OC headroom rather than some conspiracy against AMD. BF3 and BF4 were both AMD sponsored games and were one of the few to get proper mantle renderers.
>>55405634
>>55405619
You do know when you spew memes like that is very obvious that you are a shill
I have a 280x right now. I want to upgrade within 6 months. What are the recommendations? I don't want to spend more than 300 quid for that shit.
Intel shill here, can I play too guys?
Is there any reason not to import a GPU from the USA if it would be way cheaper? Where I live some cards are so much more expensive that it would be cheaper (by nearly $100 or more) to just have Amazon ship the gtx 1070 from the States than to buy it here.
It'll take a lot longer to come in, but there has to be something more than that otherwise they wouldn't be able to price gouge us like this. I guess I'd have to ship it back to the states if I needed it replaced or something? Or there's more of a risk of it getting damaged in transit?
>>55405708
your package will probably take weeks to go through customs
>>55396662
Dont get palit, get something with decent customer support
>>55405726
I can wait a few extra weeks if that's all it is... I'm waiting a few months anyway to see if better/cheaper models come out for the card.
>>55405274
So by the time you want to buy a new card around every 3 years, that's the only time AMD caught up
>>55405708
it would help knowing in what country you live first
>>55405778
>>>/v/
summerfag
>>55405799
japan.
>>55405708
I tried it, I'm italian, it has high shipping costs:
>i7 6700: 299.99$, free global shipping
>hey, they're 269€!
>just before buying there's written:
>>299$=279€ (they're stealing 10€!)
>>shipping cost: 100€
>mfw I was buying it at 269€ and it would have costed 370€
>bought from amazon.de, 10€ shipping (it said free)
>>55405778
>titan killer
>>55405861
well fuck, that's frustrating.
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait and see if there's less of a price disparity with the 480 instead.
Hi there, I'm building an eGPU setup.
What should I buy? Gtx950 or Gtx960?
Amd has bad support for eGPUs so I won't consider it (sadly).
>>55405859
no you aren't weaboo
>>55406310
RX 470 is better than both of those just wait for it to come out in like 2 weeks
>JUST WAIT
>>55397255
Depends on if you play any games that demand a lot of vram
>>55399655
Yes but it's like that so you can read the text rightside up from your computer case's window.
>>55406460
>waiting a week for something better is a bad thing
impacent child detected
Reposting in /gcg/ since it seems my thread will die without replies. Any lads with a radeon and dual monitors willing to test this out?
So I've been looking at the 480, but I'm still holding back since I learned amd's still don't downclock to idle clocks when multiple monitors are hooked, getting higher idle temps and power consumption.
Now, all I do on my second screen is browsing and movie watching, and I know you can drive multiple monitors to dgpu and igpu separately. Could I get it to downclock properly if the second monitor is hooked to the igpu?
when the hell will somebody let me buy an evga 1080
i just want to give people my money why wont they let me dont they want money why
>>55400033
You can have my 270X for $150
Anyone upgraded from STRIX 970 to 1070?
Is there a difference in size?
I want to know because back then i almost bought the gigabyte 970(the one with 3 fans) and it wouldnt have fit in my case, im sure after having and seeing the strix one.
>>55406417
>AMD has bad support for eGPUs
>just buy AMD hurr durr
I would have bought a rx480 already if only AMD had good eGPU support.
I'm getting real tired at looking at benchmarks for the 1080 just to see the cpu they used was over $1000. What's the point of using high end cpus in gpu benchmark when 90% of the buyers won't have that cpu? Having a i7 extreme edition can easily add almost 10 fps to any game.
>>55394669
The cheapest 1070 in Germany is the KFA model. I personally would wait for the EVGA models, thats what I'm doing myself.
Why are you always comparing the 480 and 1070, they aren't on the same price or performance spot. Get the 1070 is you need 2x 480 performance and a 480 if you just play 1080p.
>>55396632
>>55396662
This.
>>55405760
NEVER get Gainshit or Palit (They're the same). You'll wait months just to get warranty rejected in the end. Buy EVGA. Gigabyte is also good. Zotac isn't that bad either, I heard they have custom VRM designs.
>>55405019
How was waiting for the availability of your shiny GTX 10cuck? Are you still waiting for MSRP or did you just threw your money away?
will the 480 be overkill for 1080p or should the 470 be enough?
also will the non reference 480s be cheaper than reference? the nvidia founders edition is more expensive than non reference
>>55396632
Yes because you can do huge overclocks with the 480s. Oh hang on...
https://youtu.be/ysnHdXqG7Gw
>>55406892
the 1080gpu is overkill for 1080p
go for a 980.390x,fury for the higher end of 1080p
The 480 is not in the overkill league. Its a low/mid range card
Asked around before, but basically:
I have a r9 280x right here. It's been there for long enough but it still works fairly well.
About a month ago some guy told me he'd be buying a new budget PC and he really wanted this card. He would buy it from me for 140€. However he talks to me like once a week to ask random questions about it and tell me to hang in there and keep it for him.
I'm not as patient as some people so I'm really considering just telling him to fuck off. I'm not the seller kind and I don't usually like pressuring people to do anything, but holy shit it's been a month already.
Anyways, what would you do?
1. Keep waiting, hoping to god he doesn't end up looking things up and going all "oh hey I could buy the rx 460 instead"
2. Tell him that he has very few days to buy it
3. Keep the 280x and not really upgrade, maybe until next year
I'm using a 6850HD and I'm getting to this point where I want out of this ride. I would also say, I'm alright with the performance of the 280x with games, but I'd sacrifice a bit of that performance in exchange for better support on Linux/Hackintosh to be honest. Because god knows I had nothing but problems with this thing outside Windows.
What OCs have y'all been getting with your 1070s?
>>55406925
Tell him you have another buyer but you are giving him the first option, but he has to get back to you tomorrow. If he doesnt then fuck him
Im also using a 6850 but only gotta wait a week or so more for the AIB 480's.
>>55406868
>Being poor
What's it like not being able to afford whatever you want?
>>55406965
Yeah that's a decent plan. I'm just thinking that if that thing is going to gather some dust, I'd rather waste my upgrade money on something else I might actually need instead. Only if I sell it I will upgrade, of course.
The thing is, I wanted some equivalent on the nvidia side and now I'll have to wait until the 1060 is out.
>>55406915
>the 1080gpu is overkill for 1080p
I would like to also add a 980ti is overkill as well. You can find some nicely priced used 980ti's right now.
How do you think the 1060 6gb will fare in resolutions above 1080p?
I'm using QHD and I can never go back to 1080 now because the difference is huge
>>55407000
Not great.
The 1070 and 1080 are made for higher resolutions so it wouldn't make sense to have a cheaper card that preforms well at anything other than 1080.
>>55407000
>tfw that weird 2560x1080 resolution so you don't really even know how to measure performance with hardware that achieves "1080p at 60fps on almost anything!"
>>55405616
Lol yeah maybe in CS GO
FUCK me
Guess I'll wait till the 1060
>>55405616
What game & what settings? I didnt know minesweeper had a fps counter
>>55407016
I just want to play FFXIV at 60fps..
>>55407115
Newegg dont ship to cuck zealand?
>>55405771
When something get investiguated in customs, they open a "case" about it.
There are fees for that "case", you pay them for doing their job.
The longer they take to open and close that case, the more you pay.
I once got robbed of 1500€ because I imported airshit from honk kong and the customs took their sweet time inspecting it.
>>55407132
Im not anon but where do you live? I tell you what Id rather live where they do.
Why exactly do we need such huge increases of power like the 1080.
A year ago the 980 was supposedly so good it was worth 600€or something, an insane ammount.
Now it's actually shit and the 1080 is twice as fast for 800 fucking euros.
Look at the games we're playing. The graphics are not even getting better, it's been stagnating for a while now, even the "remakes" of older games look just the same if not the same. I don't get it.
>>55407132
Yes they do but they include 15% import tax for orders over $400NZD as well as shipping fees.
Ordering from any online chink store however is free.
I got this, 2012Ghz in boost with no OC being g applied yet. Sub 68c under stress test and very quiet considering all the stupid fans.
Yep lots of fans too.
>>55407244
Aus
>>55407340
Ok so do you both in great places!
>>55407276
Sucks man, just order from hong kong or something
I bought a 1070 to play @ 1080p for the next 3-4 years. Did I fuck up?
>>55407357
Yes
>>55407374
I just want to max every game since to me anything beyond 1080p is a meme resolution.
Also, where I live the 1070 I bought is only $180 more than what the RX 480 Nitro probably will be, but it's basically twice as fast for only 30% more price.
>>55407274
It helps if you want to play at high FPS. Even the 1080 dips below 60fps on some games.
Does the 1070 lack the new fancy RAM thing? How about dx12?
>>55407274
for higher resolutions and 144hz
if you're 1080p60 don't bother
Any price predictions for the 1060 in europe?
I'm willing to waste a bit more for it than the RX480 of course, but knowing how europe deals with this shit I really hope we're not looking at a 100€ difference. And honestly I don't feel like buying a 970 at this point in time.
>>55405480
what did he mean by this?
doom doesnt work anymore on linux because of denuvo drm
>>55407357
No it should be fine. 1070 is currently the best card for 1080p.
The 1080gpu is overkill. I have one but its too much for 1080 and not really totally enough for 4k
>>55405380
I think that's less to do with the performance of the card, and more to do with name value of Nvidia, or lack thereof for the 200-series cards. If we look at >>55404994 we can see that it performs a little worse than the 970, 390 and 290X, yet it continues to sell for higher prices than a used 290X for no really good reason. The 780ti does NOT have 980 or Fury level performance.
>>55407433
I'm upgrading from a 7950 btw. It's lasted me well for 4+ years now, but the RX 480 just doesn't seem like a worthwhile upgrade for the long term so I went with the 1070.
>>55407453
Id have done the same. The 480 isnt worth it.
The 1070 will last you.
>>55407404
>>55407422
I don't know I've been playing at 1440p with nehalem and a r9 270 for a while now and games don't seem to run worse than when I was in 1080p.
It just goes beyond me how gpus double in power every year and game graphics basically stand still, somehow requiring more and more of that power.
>>55407467
>no goyim dont buy the rx 480 it isnt kosher, buy the goyforce gtx 1070
>>55407479
Games get better looking, but it's much harder to notice. Shit like realistic hair and crap that nobody really cares about.
>>55407499
So which would you buy?
The card thats about as good as a a 2yr old 3.5gb meme or one thats about 75-80% better?
>>55407420
>no GDDR5x
Into the trash it goes.
>>55407499
I'm upgrading from my AMD card myself. I had high hopes for the RX 480 but it's really not exciting enough to be what I wanted. Keep in mind I'm coming from a 7950 so either card would be an enormous upgrade but the 1070 is actually better $/performance for me in the long term.
>>55407420
I have a 1070 GTX and it runs every game on ultra at 1440p with minimum 45 fps but average 70 fps EASY
>gtx670 died 3 weeks after warranty ended
>never even overclocked it
>case has excellent airflow
>stuck on integrated graphics until aftermarket 480s show up which probably won't happen until end of the month
>>55407499
Im looking to buy the sapphire 480 but if someone can afford the 1070 then its a no brainer
>>55407632
I survive with an older GPU, but it kinda sucks. Now I just fucking wait while playing indie shit or emulators.
>>55407625
I still have a 770 which runs quite decently. I might buy the 1070 once the price drops some.
How's the heat?
>>55397255
only if you can get one for about $50. Otherwise wait and save up for an amd 480 or gtx 970-1060
Would my FX-8320 bottleneck the 1070?
I don't play that many AAA games, but the few games I play with my 960 (I got it for free alright?) don't run as well as I want them too.
>>55407684
I got the 1080 blower card (Im guessing theyre similar/exact to a 1070)
It did hit 82 degrees under load until I installed msi afterburner.
Under load with fan at 60% its 67-71 degrees.
I imagine the 1070 is the same, The fan versions im not sure on though
Anyone ever used Inno3D?
>>55407712
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3073830/overclocked-amd-8320-bottleneck-gtx-1070.html
>>55407297
lmao 4fans
