Welcome to /fmt/ - Friendly Mac Thread.
Ask questions, discuss tips and tricks, discuss your favorite software, and share your experiences.
Users of all skill levels are welcome. Let's keep it civilized and remember to not feed the trolls.
macOS Sierra 10.12 discussion is also welcome.
Official Apple Support: https://support.apple.com
we don't need this, because apple shit actually works unlike linux.
>>55394299
It weeks because applel limit s what you can do
>>55394299
>apple shit actually works
This is what apple shills actually believe
>>55394375
yes they limit it from breaking randomly
>>55394394
I have used arch for years and it only broke when I went fucking around and changing things. Osx on the other hand WS a shit load of workarounds to mount exfat drives, and show hidden files
>>55394455
exFAT has been supported natively since late 2010.
Showing hidden files in the Finder is just a matter of modifying a single setting via the defaults program.defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES
killall Finder
And you can change it back by just replacing the "YES" for a "NO" and running the same commands.
>>55394561
>having to use a command and kill finder to show hidden files
>you can't just Ctrl+h
It might of been supported but it does not work most times
>>55394622
You do know I am saying osx is shit right?
>>55394600
Hidden files are not intended to be seen by ordinary users, hence why they are hidden.
>>55394622
>I have no ability to read
>>55394640
Sorry m8.
What's the best linux distribution to install on my late 2013 rMBP?
>>55394644
You still need to use a workaround to wide them. What if you are a developer that takes up more time than it should
>>55394653
No prob senpai
>>55394183
That finder guy is so friendly. What a nice guy. :^)
Can I use appletalk to transfer things between two computers running 7.1 and 9.2 connected by an ethernet cable?
>>55394561
>Showing hidden files in the Finder is just a matter of modifying a single setting via the defaults program
KDE is more advanced than this. KDE has a toggle right there, and it remembers the setting for each folder. So you can have "show hidden files" in a parent folder, and subfolders won't show hidden files if you don't want them to. You can also say "for all subfolders" and it'll do it for the subfolders without further interaction.
This is why I use Linux. Because Windows and OSX are fucking /crippled/
This is hilarious.
>>55394183
>Welcome to /fmt/ - Friendly Mac Thread.
This made my day. Thanks OP.
>>55394676
Anything lightweight like arch and xfce or Debian minimal
>>55394708
Doesn't XFCE have the thumbnail bug?
>>55394732
Nope I use openbox and thunar, no bug here
>>55394600
I use ExFAT with OS X and it works fine, fuck off.
>>55394183 Using timemachine over internet is still a bad idea? Within a vpn network of course.
It's no so comfy to copy sparcebundle with rsync.
>>55394676
You should sell it and buy something else.
>>55394764
It really should be fine, just take forever.
>>55394746
Thunar uses GtkFileChooser, what versions are you using of thunar and XFCE?
>>55394775
>You should sell it and buy something else.
I'm thinking of doing that. I'll probably sell it and get like an XPS 13/15 once Intel's new generation of processors come out and all the manufacturers update their laptops.
>>55394777
I'm not home but I haven't syu in a while
>>55394699
99.99999999% of users have no use for toggling hidden files on a per-folder basis. Apple and Microsoft aren't going to bloat their interface and waste screen space with a bunch of ultra-niche settings.
/g/ - Generals
>>55394908
You are wrong, anon :>
/g/ is filled with developers who have no time to waste! their hourly rate doesn't allow for pasting a simple script into the command line just once per lifetime, they are too busy building those softwarez!
>>55394775
Netatalk is slower then rsync/syncthing, but it is not that bad. ~5MB/s vs ~8MB/s
And what about sierra? Afp shit will be deprecated. Will linux smb be compatible with time machine?
>>55394968
I was referring more to doing it over the internet than doing it locally. Though AFP isn't very fast as you say.
>>55394948
summer
The disk utility in El capitan is total shit. I want the old one back.
>>55395672
I can't format a fucking partition on hard drive to Mac OS Extended Journaled for time machine backup. El Capitan disk utility is cancer.
Does the experimental native NTFS write support work well?
You all should install Mavericks
>>55395672
>>55395713
Just use diskutil, I doubt Apple's going to fix Disk Utility anytime soon.diskutil eraseVolume JHFS+ partitionname /dev/disk#
>>55395752
That wallpaper is really comfy, reminds me of GNUStep.
>>55394600
Yeah, it sucks that the option to show/hide your files is only meant for one finder session, but honestly, who gives a shit. If you are a developer or whatever, you simply always show hidden files anyway, at least that's what I do, even though I have set up cmd+alt+h as a shortcut for that.
>>55395752
If everyone downgraded to Mavericks, what would happen?
>>55395846
Microsoft established a routine for such incidents.
>>55394183
>posting the smiley with the caret nose
I want to fuck a iMac G4
>>55395963
>tfw no extra desk space, it just sits in a closet
I can't wait to move
How do I get cum out of cashmere?
I got a free Powermac G5 from freecycle, it has two processors but no HD, it's also missing the screws for the HD's, these seem really expensive on ebay.
Anons, what is the macos I should install on it? Do I have to buy the special Apple screws? I'd like to make it into an emulation machine, but would it even run contemporary versions of mame etc?
>>55396028
>what OS
Tiger if you want Classic, otherwise Leopard. Make sure to install Tigerbrew too
>screws
Any screws work, they just need to hang off the drive so you can slide it into the bays.
>would it be powerful enough?
You've got more than enough power
>>55396057
hey, thanks kind anon, I'll name the mac any name you care to give it as a mark of gratitude.
>>55396207
Name it 'PowerMac'
>>55396244
Hah! Will do, existentialist anon-kun!
>>55396207
>>55396336
If you name it winston we'll have matching PowerMacs
>>55396350
maybe we could make a real life CTRL ALT DEL sequel and have a foursome with them. Perhaps striped socks anon could try and tempt them into some trap sex too.
>>55396380
>le ebin macs r gay meme
People like you are the only reason I look forward to summer ending.
>>55396411
seeing how I've been here a couple of weeks since 4 chan began, and used to post on strawberry before that, I reckon I've awaited far more of your moronic ilk to give up and leave.
>friendly faggot general
>macfags uses windows
>downloads and installs gayniggersorgy.zip.rar.mov.mp4.exe
>"OMG wtf wangblows is so insecur!!"
>macfag uses linix
>tries to do anything
>"oMg wtf is wit this dinosaur os loonix blows!!!11"
Legitimate question. Where do mactoddler morons get the false impression they and their toddler toys are welcome on a technology site?
>>55396752
>whining that technology is being discussed on a technology board
I'm still running Mavericks.
How shit is El Capitan (or Sierra) after disabling SIP?
>>55396693
How many times are you going to post this? What do you do with your life?
>>55396905
You don't even need to do that, you can just re-enable root user.
>>55396952
>You don't even need to do that
Depends on what you're doing, I've run into multiple problems that were solved by disabling SIP
>>55396932
>has no answer
I rest my case.
>>55396952
What about SIMBL though? Pretty sure that needs SIP turned off.
>>55396997
Oh, then yes, you must turn SIP off. But for stuff that you just need to change every once in a while, enabling the root user works for me.
>>55397010
OS X is like finding yourself unrestrained in a padded room with the door unlocked. Sure you start out in babbyland, but you're only there as long as you want to be.
>>55396982
Fuck off loser.
>>55397010
It's disabled, you aren't locked out.
When are the new rMBPs coming out? Had this air for over a year now, but now need more space and RAM (and a less awful screen).
>>55397045
Just buy a 2015.
>mfw the samefagging shitposter gets banned
>>55395860
Tell me more, I'm interested
>>55394183
The correct term is "Friendly apple general"
>>>/g/fag/
>>55396693
>macfags have no answer
>>55397074
But new ones will be out soon. I don't want to make another mistake like I did with the Air.
>>55397112
Why bother responding to shitposters?
>>55397124
>I don't want to make another mistake
>wants to buy macshit
ayylmao
>>55397132
ebin
>>55397124
What makes you think they're be out soon? They haven't announced a thing. Not to mention you could sell the 2015 if you want a 2016 that come out later on.
Been using a Hackintosh for a couple of months now
OSX is perfect. I don't want to go back to Winblows or Shitnux ever again.
>>55397173
2 rupees have been deposited in your designated shitting street Rajeesh!
>>55397091
Nothing better than poking fun at oneself. Voting Friendly Apple General for next title thread.
(Except it's about the OS, so eh.)
>>55397132
Well the air is still better than any other computer I've ever owned. Windows 8 was so godawful I just wanted to escape. The only problem with is screen glare, everything else is perfect. Now I need a more powerful pro for work.
>>55397165
I expect they'll be out in time to ship with sierra this fall.
>>55397194
>a 1366x768 TN piece of shit is better than any other computer i've ever owned
Consider suicide.
>>55397173
Same. I tried many OS, but OS X X.IX is the only one that doesn't have a critical flaw
>>55397183
apple loses on hackintoshes
>>55397210
>>55397183
Mad freetard
>>55397210
this desu senpai
There's three Macbooks:
Plain: worse than celeron piece of shit with the worst keyboard in the history of computing
Air: same 1366x768 TN piece of shit you find on $200 craptops, and it's glossy on top of that
Pro: if you try to use the high end hardware they cram into it, it catches fire
They're all utter shit, and only a moron would buy any of them.
>>55397194
Well apparently you know when they're going to come out, so why did you ask your question?/
>>55397226
>osx
Found the critical flaw.
>>55397210
It's 1400x900 thank you
>>55397234
Nice memes.
>>55397252
>combines all versions of Mac OS X.
>>55394183
>Spending $1500+ on passively cooled aluminum shitboxes for hipster cred at your liberal arts school
>>55397236
I want an exact date. It's always good to be prepared
>>55397278
>mactoddler
>2 second attention span
>illiterate
Unsurprising.
>>55397252
This counts all vulnerabilities from all OSX versions
desu the anti-apple circlejerk is way more annoying than pro-apple or neutral
>>55397278
>>55397301
>has no argument
>tries to pretend only the graph exists and the rest of the article doesn't
Typical macfag damage control.
>>55397293
There is no exact date, you retard. They haven't be announced. For all we know they will never be an update.
If you want an upgrade, buy now. Waiting is not a solution.
>>55397316
You can go back to your /r/eddit/applel hugbox if you can't take the heat junior.
>>55397316
there are spergs on /g/ who get really triggered whenever apple is mentioned
>ITT: people who never used a Mac
lmao
>>55397353
>If you want an upgrade, buy now.
>""""""""""upgrade""""""""""
lmao
>>55397367
Yea, I don't understand that.
>>55397377
Fixed price
>>55397370
>>ITT: people who never ate shit from their hands
>lmao
That's nothing to brag about.
>>55397299
>>55397327
But how many vulnerabilities does OS X X.IX.V have?
>>55397353
I want an upgrade but don't need one immediately. Why buy now when I can wait until they come out? I'm not going to buy a soon to be outdated 15 when there are plenty of rumors about the 16.
>>55397415
>has no argument
>has to deflect
gg no re
>>55397377
""""""""""""""""""""""(You)"""""""""""""""""""""""
>>55397438
am i talking to a shill
>>55397431
>soon to be outdated
All shitbooks are outdated for years by the time they release.
>>55397384
They can't afford any Apple products so they shitpost in bitter anger
>>55397431
Because you will probably be waiting until the end of the year when you could ditch the Air today and sell the '15 when they actually have a date on a '16.
>>55397361
this desu senpai
>>55397453
"""""""""""""(You)"""""""""""""
>>55397476
""""""""""""""""""""""(You)"""""""""""""""""""""""
>>55397464
That just sounds impractical, going through 3 computers in a few months when I can do two
Any laptops out there that would be a decent successor to the 2011 17-inch MBP? I love this thing, but it's starting to show its age, and with Apple all but abandoning the larger form factor, I might have to look over to Lenovo or Dell.
"""""""""""""""""""""""(( >>55397441 ))"""""""""""""""""""""""
"""""""""""""""""""""""(( >>55397476 ))"""""""""""""""""""""""
>>55394183
I love my hackintosh and el capitan is what windows 7 was to Yosemite's Vista, but there are some things I hope they'll improve:
Why isn't cut a thing yet in Mac OS?
>>55397377
>mactards unironically pay 2016 prices for 2013 shit
>mactards will damage control and defend this
>>55397491
Whatever you say.
>>55397511
How is it starting to show its age?
>>55397520
uh, command+x? As for files, you have to copy like usual, but paste while holding option (ctrl), so it cuts. I like this concept better, personally.
What browser is everyone using and mail client? I recently just ditched chrome for Opera and using Opera Mail. Firefox is terrible and Safari isn't supported by a lot of "cutting edge" websites.
>>55397520
Cut?
>>55397520
mv u noob
>>55397553
What "cutting edge" sites don't support Safari?
>>55396693
>macfags have no answer
>>55397553
Safari and Mail. I've never seen a website that didn't support Safari somehow.
>>55397553
>>>/r/eddit
>>55397580
You might if you browsed any website other than facebook on your facebook machine.
>>55396693
because (free/open)bsd is way better than linux
>>55397553
I used chromium from homebrew, but recently switched to Iridium. Damn html5 video codecs.
>>55396693
/thread
>>55397570
blab.im and lots of video chatting sites. I like to make a lot of money then finish my day making fun of people in chat rooms.
>>55397598
Nice meme that makes no sense whatsoever.
>>55397641
>owning a memebook
Nice meme.
>>55397624
How do they not support it? El Capitan Safari is pretty much fully up to date.
>>55397598
this desu senpai
>>55397598
>No example, just facebook machine meme
Good job retard
does linus torvalds hire shills? the same thing happened with friendly windows thread and related in friendly bsd thread
>>55397658
>Safari
Found your problem.
https://nolanlawson.com/2015/06/30/safari-is-the-new-ie/
>>55397592
>firefox
>terrible
gtfo
>yfw apple comes out with this
>>55397692
I didn't say I had a problem, shill.
>>55397684
>owns a memebook
Good job retard
>>55397699
>it's glued in
>>55397699
That shit is so useless, how are you supposed to use drop down menus with this?
Fucking design students who make these fake ass renders.
>>55397699
When you can't innovate, imitate. :^)
>>55397699
>mactards need to be reminded of what their name is
>>55397752
Would you expect otherwise from people who need to be reminded to breathe? :^)
>>55397549
>option (ctrl)
Option is alt
>>55397687
this
even most pictures are the same
>>55397714
>>55397720
>>55397722
>>55397752
>thinking a concept is the real thing
settle down
>>55397787
Literally said 'design students' and 'fake ass renders'.
>>55397773
>""""""""""""""""""""people""""""""""""""""""""
>>55396693
I grew up using Windows and switched to OS X after years of using Linux. Now I use OS X and OpenBSD. Please do go on about how I have no right to post in a technology board, I'd love to hear your reasoning.
>>55397809
>switches to toddlerOS after realizing you're too retarded to handle real computers
>thinking you have any right to post on a technology board
>>55397809
Sounds like >>>/r/eddit is right up your alley.
>>55397687
>>55397785
Or maybe it's just one person? Like that archfag.
>>55397841
When I used Linux I was like you
>lol OS X sux becuz it duz
>lol Applel iz gay amirite guise
Then I bought an iMac G3 at a rummage sale and found out that all of my shitting on Apple was just blind hatred, shortly after I switched to OS X.
>>55397865
Sounds like you should eat a dick.
>>55397875
>i never used linux
Ok mactard.
>>55397841
>schizophrenic samefag cant stop shitposting in apple threads
>>55397900
I used it for ~5 years. Still do on my SBC and VPS
>>55397872
It's definitely one guy. He says the same posts verbatim every time.
>>55397907
>street shitting pajeet can't stop posting apple shill threads on a technology board
I'm a Linux Sys admin and I use OSX at home
Good thread.
>>55397928
>if I don't like it it's not technology
>>55397999
>if i shill my toddler toys enough i can claim it's technology
Atom or Sublime for text editing on OS X?
>>55398048
Atom should never be viewed as an option.
>>55398048
>mactoddler doesn't even know how to edit text
>>55398048
sublime!
atom is not bad and very_configurable,
but sublime is way faster and also very_configurable.
OTOH i use vim a lot for quick stuff and intellij for lots of code
>>55398048
Atom is absolutely disgusting. Sublime all the way. Coda and other osx-specific solutions are ok.
Or just use vim lul
>>55397919
>>55397907
What if... The archfag and the applefag are the same person?
>>55394949
>/g/ is filled with developers who have no time to waste!
Thats why They're on /g/
>>55398096
Giggly and absent-minded, the lowly soldier entertains himself as he thinks from moment to moment. This is only one of many reasons why he can never advance his life as he clamors to himself that he is the superior one in a room full of equals or lesser.
>>55398176
*tips fedora*
>>55398048
Sublime or Textmate 2. Atom is only ok if you think it's ok for your text editor to consume 400MB of RAM by creating a new text file and typing "hi".
>>55398188
Back to R*ddit you go.
>>55398176
What is this syntax? Please speak modern English.
>>55396693
But Linux IS a dinosaur of an OS.
>X Server maximum kek
>gotta fill in config files manually for everything because there are barely any builtin config tools
>the entirety of userland software is laughably bad. You got either pretty well engineered DEs with pathetically awful UI, or DEs with nice UI (Gnome for example) with shitty performance
>>55394676
honestly, not even gnome handles hidpi all that well, nor windows for that matter
>>55398330
>Windows scaling
Never again. I used to bootcamp on this thing for muh gaymes, but I built a real gaming computer and uninstalled Windows from this. A lot of applications became straight up unusable because you couldn't click all the buttons since Windows fucked up how they were displayed at 2880x1800.
>>55398382
I've not had that problem (scaling 3840x2160 to 2560x1440 or 1920x1080)
Only time I ever had problems is some games don't go fullscreen correctly unless you disable DPI scaling for them.
Rarely, a program just looks like shit but you can disable DPI scaling for it (speccy is the only program I've done this for)
>>55398436
But what was your screen size? The Amnesia games did not work at all for me because of the menus until I turned off scaling.
>>55398382
>>55398436
>>55398448
>MUH GAEMS
>>>/v/
>>55398448
Right, like I said games are a very real problem. Especially idtech games - gotta turn off scaling or they take up half the screen or do stupid shit in general.
Quake Live I could play at 4k but since my display was scaled down it only showed like half of the game until I turned off scaling for it.
>>55398466
Those are tears of joy, he's autistic and really loves Apple.
>>55398459
>technology can never be used for fun
>>>/autism/
>>55398459
I don't play games very often, just agreeing that Windows DPI scaling does mess up games but for the most part it's fine otherwise.
Sometimes get weird bugs coming out of a game in explorer windows where they will be half scaled and half unscaled. Minimizing/restoring fixes it.
>>55398504
Various fun hobbies pop up on this board, but when a fun hobby gets really popular, such as gaming, it gets its discussion moved to an entirely different board. It is more properly discussed over there.
>>55398536
So should the headphone general be moved to /mu/? And the watch general to /fa/?
Literally all I did was mention I play games. Would you sperg out and tell someone to fuck off to /fa/ if they said they owned a watch?
>>55398558
>Would you sperg out and tell someone to fuck off to /fa/ if they said they owned a watch?
Correct.
>>55398558
I wish watch threads and headphones would move to their respective boards desu
>>55397091
>>55397188
Friendly Apple Gorgeous Good OSX Thread
>>>/g/faggot/
>>55398571
Your life must be fun.
>>55398648
It's not.
>>55398648
>owning a watch
Your life must be fun.
>>55398777
I have a smartwatch.
>>55398787
>being so cucked you have to live your entire life off someone else's timetable
>>55398806
What method have you developed for telling time?
>>55398846
>needing to know what time it is
Spotted the iCuck poorfag.
>>55398846
He's saying he's too cool for schedules. In other words, he's perpetually unemployed.
>>55398867
But without having a concept of time, how will you know when the totino's is done?
>>55398875
His smell of Totino's is so developed that he can pinpoint the exact second at which they're ready.
>>55398910
Interesting.
>>55398910
>he doesn't time his entire life off the cooking time for totinos
>>>/out/
>>55398875
>having a concept of time
>being this poor
>>55399051
Fuck gotta hurry, favorite anime airs in 3 and a half Totino's
ironic shitposting is still shitposting guys
>>55399238
This.
Why isn't OP banned yet?
>>55395776
>I doubt Apple's going to fix Disk Utility anytime soon.
I think they'll fix it next year assuming that's when they deploy APFS
>>55399604
What does their new filesystem have to do with Disk Utility's shitty new UI?
>>55395963
I want to fuck a Power Mac G5
>>55399616
It'll be like every other software UI redesign Apple has done: First get the fundamentals right, then incrementally add back the missing features.
>>55399669
But they had the fundamentals right. Disk Utility's been fine for years and then out of nowhere they took a shit on it.
>>55398330
What's wrong with Windows' DPI scaling?
Is it really worth the $1,000 - $2,000 for a computer that will be obsolete (and probably have some parts needing fixed or replaced) in a couple years?
Thinking about buying one because I liked using them at school, but I don't want to be like the people that waste money on a new iPhone every couple of years. I want something that will last and be useful for at least five years.
Will APFS eventually be able to work on startup disks? I don't see the point of the new file system without this feature.
>>55399746
>Is it really worth the $1,000 - $2,000 for a computer that will be obsolete (and probably have some parts needing fixed or replaced) in a couple years?
None of that is true. My 3 year old MacBook Pro is pristine and still fast as ever. People are still using Mac Pros from 10 years ago. People are even still using PowerMac G5s (probably even more would be if Apple didn't shit on them with Snow Leopard).
>>55399747
Pretty sure its intent is startup disks, it's just not ready for it yet.
>>55399747
It's a beta, that's why they won't let you use it for a boot drive.
>>55399684
It wasn't the most newb friendly UI. For instance to a layman the difference between erasing and partitioning isn't particularly clear in the old version of Disk Utility.
>>55399763
Coolio. I just remember a couple friends and classmates having to send their computers to Apple so they could replace wifi cards or other parts because they stopped functioning and I guess it's too hard to do that yourself for some reason.
Doesn't really matter, I'll just get the warranty/customer care thing.
>>55399747
APFS will totally replace HFS+ next year. They're also ensuring a seamless, painless conversion process.
>>55399763
2 rupees have been deposited in your shit wiping hands Pajeet.
>>55399794
I don't know why they'd do that, it's not really common for those to fail on any machine.
The only thing is that the RAM is not upgradeable, so make sure you get how much you need.
>>55399746
Macs are 3 years obsolete as soon as they roll off the production line.
>>55399861
>it's not really common for those to fail on any machine.
How many rupees do you get paid Rajeesh?
>>55399875
Except Skylake was just released and Broadwell wasn't shit.
>>55399794
Not the guy you are talking to, but I'm using a 7-year-old MBP and upgraded the RAM and installed an SSD myself. (This is a regular MBP -- on the retinas the RAM is soldered in)
>>55399899
Broadwell wasn't, but Macbooks were.
>>55399889
How many Totino's rolls does your mom have to bring you so you don't lose weight?
Is there any way to make text navigation shortcuts similar to windows?
>>55399917
>he doesn't have the microwave right next to his monitor to savor the microwaved aromas
Stay jelly peasant.
Anyone using the Sierra beta? is the UI performance smoother?
>>55399918
They're literally the same seeing as those were copied from Office.
>>55397079
almost force everyone to upgrade to latest
>>55399935
>new iteration applel os
Their only function is to slow down your mac to a crawl so you're forced to buy another. Why do you think?
>>55399944
No they're not you fucking retard. Did you even open the picture
>>55399958
but i don't have a mac
>>55399918
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236
(under Document shortcuts)
>>55399970
>No they're not you fucking retard.
They are you fucking retard.
>>55399958
Blatantly false. I bought my iMac for the Mavericks beta and performance has improved from 10.9 to 10.10 and from 10.10 to 10.11.
>>55399918
>is there any way to do thing like the picture i posted telling you exactly how to do thing
>>55399995
I'm not asking what they are, I'm asking how to CHANGE them
>>55400035
>I'm asking how to CHANGE them
>on a locked down MemeOS
>>55399958
This has been true for iPhones at least.
>>55400022
>>55400006
Left column is windows. Middle column is OS x. Right is ganoo loonix. Come again, fucktard?
>>55400034
>saying anything positive about Apple anything is shilling
Getting real sick of your shit, summerfag.
>>55400053
>OS X is locked down
Spotted the retard
