Why are there no good browsers?
Chrome's a botnet, but Firefox is shit. Webkit's fast as fuck, and nothing else seems to be able to compare, but Chromium is missing features (and may still be botnet), and Vivaldi's a joke.
The open source ones like Midori or Epiphany don't have plugins, so they're also useless.
What gives?
>>55390135
>Firefox is shit
explain
>>55390287
SJW
The only good browser is firefox with a couple of extensions.
Like it or not.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Firefox#Notable_add-ons
>>55390287
slow and buggy
>>55390325
It's neither slow nor buggy for me.
Maybe you should try a clean install of 64-bit Stable.
https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/all/
Also don't shit it up with plugins and extensions.
>>55390135
Pale Moon is good, but it's not great.
Chrome is great, but it's a botnet.
The better question is, why are there no great browsers?
QupZilla is quite nice: http://qupzilla.com/
Not a ton of options but it has the essentials and adblocking built in.
>>55390287
It's really slow. I've given it a shot, but earlier today it didn't want to work with some video or something, so I pulled up Chrome and realized that it renders the page almost a full 5 seconds faster. It's absurd.
Edge and safari are the best, except their customizability/extension support is too limited.
So... suck it up. Embrace the botnet. Download Chrome.
>>55390359
Chrome pre-loads on their servers or some shit its called pre-fetching and if you disable it you are left roughly about the same speed as friefoxokxok
>>55390359
Chrome prefetches everything that's why. It makes it appear faster but pisses off every single website in the world.
What about Opera? Is it good?
>>55390135
>Firefox
up till now I'm happy with it
>>55390338
>placebo Moon
>>55390841
It's the best Chromium reskin around.
>>55390841
just use opera dev. there's no point to stable chropera at all
>>55390135
>Chrome's a botnet
It's only a botnet if you're an autistic lincucks user.
>Firefox is shit
It's only shit if you're mentally retarded and don't know how to configure it.
Both Firefox and Chrome are God-tier, only thing that is shit is you and your PC.
>>55390359
That's because of prefetching. Turning it on wastes bandwidth and CPU. You can enable a similar feature for FF, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Chrome is actually pretty slow. It's inefficient as hell, particularly when you have a lot of tabs open.
>>55390135
Iridium
>>55390841
>dyson_fan.png
>>55390311
And how would this affect the user?
Sleipnir
>that font rendering
>>55390311
As opposed to which other browser?
>>55391462
>sleipnir
That still exists? I can´t find news or anything newer than 2014
>>55391948
http://blog.sleipnirbrowser.com/2016/04/sleipnir-6-1-11-for-windows.html
>>55392069
>their own blog
That´s cheating
I've settled for waterfox as my main browser
it's based on the current firefox code and therefore works out-of-the-box with everything, yet it's a fork that has it's own thing going on by fixing all the faults mozilla caused by choice (mainly the pocket, reader & plugins features).
it feels like a good balance between being an autistic edgelord that cares about "muh freedom" and an norp that cares about "muh casual surfing"
>>55392615
Why not just stick with Firefox and just toggle shit in about:config?
Talk about being an edgelord.
>>55390135
I'm looking forward to the emacs graphical browser coming to emacs 25. It would give me motivation to quit Firefox for good.
>>55390287
> be me
> hate overheating laptops so go for low spec ultrabook
> everything's amazing, super-cool to code on the go, trips never been this pleasant
> it has one problem
> web browser
> don't do much, just twitter, facebook, imageboards, github/bitbucket, news websites, youtube
> fresh install chrome and firefox
> chrome works k, need to restart every 3-4 hours due to memory hogs, performance drops
> firefox works k until there's javascript, 2 pages - twitter and youtube freeze the whole browser for good 10-15secs, scrolling impossible
Even mozilla acknowledges that FF isn't the most performant thing. Good with 1 tab and best for simple websites (even performance wise) but totaly unoptimized to current web.
>>55390135
What does Chromium lack, mate? The proprietary codecs?
>>55394426
> be me
do you have multiple personalities? who else would you be?
Because Opera died
>>55390311
Wait, since when?
>>55394507
You must be pretty new here, anon
>>55390311
Chrome's also, the guys from Google are SJW.
>>55394536
The guy of the .gif is a dj right?
>Firefox is shit
Stopped reading right there, even in spite of your truism about Chrome preceding it.
If you can't make Firefox into what you want it to be - which is why it is the way it is, it's a framework meant to be expanded upon and customized to whatever degrees you wish - then you really should just shut the fuck up and die in a fire more than likely. We don't need stupid fucking people like you in our world, you're causing too many problems for those of us that aren't stupid fucking people.
>stupid fucking people will be the death of us all
>>55394574
is from the live action remake of The Iron Giant
>>55392069
isn't sleipnir a fork of chrome now?
why would you use this lel
Serious question: how concerned should I be about Chrome's "botnet"? I find it faster for stuff like youtube and twitch, and since I'm stuck using Facebook to keep in touch with my normie friends, I'm being tracked anyway.
how do i stop firefox from being a massive memory hog?
Waterfox or PaleMoon?
Why?
![Opera_512x512[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/El8U7nl.png "Opera_512x512[1].png")
>>55390841
it was
>>55394574
DANGER
http://youtu.be/HuyioN2YTrM
http://youtu.be/AW3Wli2kBg4
>>55396539
Stop having 500 tabs open
PALE MOON
>>55390312
The next major version of ESR will come with the forced signing of extensions, which is goes completely against the principles of free software.
>>55396741
i have only at max 4 at a time. the longer i have firefox open the bigger it gets
>>55396844
By then I'll be using emacs hopefully as a full time browser.
>>55396894
flash player leaks memory
But there are, problem is they need to collect your data to make money somehow
Its the tradeoff you get for having free shit
>>55390135
Safari is good, as long as you own a mac
>>55397001
Safari isn't good regardless of what OS you use.
>>55397005
literally the only usable browser
>>55397018
Literally unusable
>>55396908
I'll switch to either SeaMonkey or Palemoon. Both seem to support most of the addons I'm using.
There's also IceCat, but I don't think the FSF will be able to keep up with all the shit Mozilla is adding.
All in all, there'll be enough choice when the time will come.
>>55397056
(You)
>>55397127
(You)
>>55397143
(You)
>>55397125
FSF can't even keep up with ESR right now.
>>55397158
(You)
>>55397181
Yeah. That's not good because it means CVEs don't get fixed as fast as they should.
>not using chrome
>b-but muh privacy
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.
>>55397247
Post full name and home address.
>>55397310
What do you mean? why?
>>55397330
Well if you have nothing to hide, you wouldn't need the anonymity you're using right now.
>>55397310
Not without shit in return
I am happy with Firefox.
I have quite a few extensions, and I am still able shitpost and browse while tethered to shitty data.
>>55390841
What is this, 2002?
>>55397365
I will visit your house and give you $100.
>really like Chrome
>no tree tabs extension available for it
Inox + IceCat is my best combination to this day. Inox for Youtube and casual browsing, hardened IceCat for privacy. Both started with firejail.
>>55397458
Opera was the best browser until it died in 2013. Still is if you're okay with using a browser that hasn't been updated in three years.
>>55394558
Hell, Google is actively trying to influence the election for Shillery. All Mozilla has done was fire Eich and spend $25000 rewriting "problematic" code
When Mozilla abandons XULRunner, what will happen to extensions like pentadactyl, greasemonkey and vimperator? I heard the devs of some addons say they can't fully be ported to the new addon api.
O P E R A
Anyone use Cyberfox?
>>55394537
This isn't Reddit
>>55394537
Only reddit faggots say >be me
>>55401292
Opera died three years ago. SeaMonkey and Firefox are the only decent browsers now.
>>55390135
Dolphin.
>>55394606
Firefox is shit at being a "framework" for anything.
Generally, I would imagine "frameworks" wouldn't be slow and buggy.
Also, way to say a whole bunch that doesn't mean anything. Your post was meaningless.
>>55390135
Currently using Vivaldi. Brave has some potential but I've only used it a little.
