Let's discuss SBCs ITT, what we're looking at, what we have, what we use it for, etc.
Here's an incomplete list of common SBCs out there for newcomers.
>arduino
>banana pi
>beaglebone
>C.H.I.P
>cubieboard
>dragonboard
>orange pi
>ODROID
>PINE
>raspberry pi
>VIA
>>55385067
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
>>55385067
didn't see this thread before i posted mine
I'm wanting to get a knockoff Arduino starter kit. Mainly for learning assembly, and embedded C programming.
I'm leaning towards getting the Mega because it has 256k vs 16k of flash storage. The first thing I want to make is a play pretend hardware accelerator for huffman encoding compression.
Off topic but what sensor modules are neat to play with?
>>55385067
What's the board pictured? The VGA and SATA ports are very intriguing for my project:
I have an original iMac that's sorta-broken and I want to replace the motherboard with something more interesting (but keep the CRT because why not). A proper PC wouldn't fit unless I also replace the CRT with an LCD, so something like the raspberry pi is ideal, except that HDMI output is counterproductive.
>>55385077
>https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
>arm processor
I.E. Junk
>>55385191
It's a VIA, x86 quad core epia. Not sure which model, but you might be better off with the VIA c4650 instead
>>55385217
Oh dang it's x86? I could probably run a classic mac emulator on that haha
(Thanks for the info!)
is there any of these really good for a homebuilt nas? can also be mini itx really but am definitely looking for something small but able to handle 4 or more drives
Is Orange Pi Plus 2 good enough to use as my main computer ?
My only concern is it only has 2 GB RAM, definitely not enough for VM.
I think we should compile a list of notable SBC, alongside with price, RAM, CPU, GPU and whether it has hardware issue (like odroid)
>>55385217
Do you know of any other boards with VGA support that don't cost $300+?
>>55385192
your phone has an ARM
it's basically the best, low power, general purpose processor in history
Are there any with ECC and SATA ports? I want a low-power NAS, but the options for that are limited.
>>55385293
Only one I know is VIA.
C.H.I.P uses svideo iirc, which you can adapt to vga pretty easily I think
>>55385067
What's a good seedbox?
CubieBoard tends to overheat and go into coma while rtorrent is checking the checksum, requiring manual reboot.
>>55385410
>CubieBoard tends to overheat
Have you tried attaching a heatsink?
>>55385410
Did you try a heatsink? Your can buy 5 for a dollar or so from China
>>55385427
Heatsink reduced the frequency of overheating, but it still goes into coma every week or so.
>>55385437
How is that even possible?
>>55385515
Maybe I got the one with shit-bin chip.
But, overheating and going into coma does seem to other people's cubieboards too if Google search results are anything to go by.
>>55385410
Which cubie? I have the 2 with rtorrent running at it never overheats.
>>55385394
Looks like it has composite built in, and they sell a VGA adapter. I think I'll go with chip!
>>55385191
https://www.amazon.com/VIA-Embedded-EPIA-P910-10Q-Pico-ITX-Processor/dp/B00BQ5W61Y
>>55385558
cubieboard 2
>>55385544
Did you try adding a small 5v fan?
Also could I use an orange pi as a substitute desktop on my tv with Linux?
NEW ! Orange Pi PC Plus ubuntu linux and android mini PC Beyond Raspberry Pi 2 Wholesale is available
http://s.aliexpress.com/JnqeAbMn
(from AliExpress Android)
>all botnet except arduino
http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
>>55385067
http://www.gearbest.com/memory-cards/pp_246127.html
>>55385601
>>55385630
https://wiki.hackerspace.pl/projects:zsun-wifi-card-reader
note: <$10, free shipping
is there something as cheap as this, but with a more powerful CPU?
>>55385067
Arduino isn't a sbc
>>55385670
Yes it is.
>>55385681
It's a micro.
Maybe it would be considered a SBC in 1980
>>55385681
Arduino is a microcontroller on a breakout board. When people think of SBCs they think of something with at least a GPU.
>>55385067
What memory cards are good for SBCs? Are the mixza sharks enough?
>>55385303
Except Silvermont beats the crap out of it at the same power.
https://wiki.debian.org/CheapServerBoxHardware
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Hardware
>>55385067
I have to say that doing stuff that might matter on a MicroSD card makes me nervous. Are MicroSDs actually reliable in the long term?
arduino is for real programmers because you have to write low level C. anything you can just write python on, you might as well use an old phone board, because it's the same thing, but in a better form factor and more powerful
>>55385772
> thinking arduino is low level
>>55385303
My phone runs on Intel Atom and x86.
So whats the most powerful SBC around? (preferably x86/x64)
Are thinclients the cheapest way of acquiring an x86 SBC?
>>55385847
Intel Compute Sticks likely are up there.
>>55385762
I've only had one fail on me, but that was my own fault for putting it in my coin pouch.
>>55385827
Intel couldn't compete at both performance and efficiency so they merged atom with another line and just gave up.
>>55385847
VIA c4650z athlon 5350 cpu performance and pcie slot for gpu
>>55385857
There's no z in that, typo sorry.
>>55385857
>Intel couldn't compete at both performance and efficiency
I have some cheap Baytrail products that say otherwise. Similarly my Zenfone 2 ran circles around 808/810/801. The 805 for some reason (Nexus 6 Shamu Note4) was a different story for some reason.
>>55385372
PC Engines makes something like that, but they don't have ECC working yet.
>>55385772
>arduino
You mean Atmel?
>>55385890
>PC Engines
You might as well just buy a proper server at that price point.
>>55385077
I've been checking this out and I would buy this if I hadn't funded the novena.
My biggest complaint is they seem to have no roadmap for future upgrades. What point is the EOMA68 form factor if you are forever stuck on the same slow ass dual core arm chip.
Secondly the form factor seems to only allow for a very small thermal envelope. Anything more than a few watts needs a type III form factor and heatsink which I don't think they suuport. I will only buy another low end desktop processor if it is a RISC-V or equivalent open processor. I don't need another piece of arm hardware I barely use.
>>55385922
Well if you want fucking ECC then you're going to be paying a fuckload, especially for ECC on an SBC.
Anyone knows of a fast x86 SBC with dual ethernet and SATA?
Is this worth 26€? I want to make a cheap and quiet seedbox/home server
>>55385970
PC Engines makes something like that. You can even get triple Ethernet.
>>55385372
>>55386019
Never heard of them. Where do I buy it? And can you point me in the direction of the one with ECC?
Even if it's pricey, it's probably not as expensive as the Avoton boards like the C2750 that are $300-400+
>>55386066
http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2c4.htm
ECC isn't working on it yet. I'm not even sure if they're making progress with it either. Mine ended up costing around 200 dollars with all the goodies I wanted.
>>55385067
What's the cheapest SBC I can use as an HTPC?
Really all I need is some basic OS that can play H.264 and VC-1 files, and 1 USB port + 1 video/audio out.
>>55386112
Orange pi pc should be less than $20 from aliexpress and can play h.264 4k videos iirc
>>55386112
Probably one of the android tv boxes.
There was one the kodi forums people were hyping since it had good performance.
I wouldn't bother with rpi, it will end up costing the same as a decent android tv box when you factor in all the other stuff you need.
And at the end of the day you're still stuck with 10/100 ethernet sharing the usb bus
>>55385888
Yes that's exactly why Intel didn't drop the atom line
>>55386112
This, but hevc x265 10bit, anyone?
Why don't we have any SBCs with older but still relatively powerful components like the Heliox10 or Snapdragon 801 and 2, 3, or 4GB ram?
>>55387000
http://www.dfrobot.com/index.php?route=product/search&description=true&search=lattepanda
>>55387035
>139usd
>no nand
>no windows licence
>no sata
>no pcie
I feel like they might have blown too much of the budget on that Intel chip.
Was hoping to pay maybe 75-80usd for an ARM one for some web browsing and emulation.
Has anyone gotten a Creator CI40? I've got a CI20 and was wondering if I should just get another one or go for the new one.
Will I be able to run LiteBSD on my Pinguino Micro?
>>55385601
Bump
>>55386009
what & where?
Step back, plebs
The one, true singleboard computer is here
>>55387976
Probably some shit netbook or mobo on amazon.
Look at that cpu, bleh, outdated atom shit is such a pain to work with.
No one cares about the drivers and performance is slower than granny taking a shit
>>55388003
You can get a proper xeon server for 200$. Not this amd shit.
>>55388153
a xeon server with unrasinable power draw
nice try jew
>>55388187
Why would you raisin the power draw?
>>55388187
Not everybody needs to an ultra-low power server for their home server.
>>55385077
If only those were actually PCMCIA compatible, those would have a pretty damn good niche as bridge boxes for legacy systems.
This is the detailed hardware specification of SBC that I compiled, source of the information is from Wikipedia.
I have two goals I want to achieve.
First is to set up a little machine for torrenting. This should be easy with Raspbian and Deluge.
Second, I want to set up a machine for connecting to the television. I know I can use OSMC.
What would be great though, that I am unsure about is can I set up one system which can accomplish both of these goals. Am I right in thinking that I can just install Kodi on Raspbian?
>>55389020
Orange pi pc x2.
>>55385067
C.H.I.P is a piece of shit avoid all cost
>>55389030
>Orange pi pc
Serious question, Is this the best value option? How's performance? Smooth 720p YouTube playback?
>>55389111
???
>>55389111
>
why dont you guys just get a mac mini?
>"""future-proof"""" htpc, literally, much better than what you are trying to build
>only a little bit more expensive
>no need for peripherals
>better OS
>2TB hard drive
>HDMI
>4k video
>streaming server
>ssh
>can program it (write C programs to control the screen
>or use built in screen sharing
I'm searching for a computer + uC solution for a quadcopter (uC for real time needs and computer for computer vision), as far as I know, the BBB is the only common board that have both of those on a single board, are there other solutions out there?
I need a dual lan board for pfsense, I can never seem to find one that isn't $200
>>55390444
Only a little more than 18 dollars for a mac mini with a 2tb hard Drive?
>>55390545
just make sure its a 32 bit mcu
>>55385772
>im a real(tm) programmer, guise. Please like and share this post
>>55385067
>No serial port by default
Why VIA WHY?!?!?!
>>55385772
>Arduino
>Low level
Unless your using Atmel studio(insert your preference here) and doing all your programing live via a programer in assembly your not doing any low level programing at all nigger.
>>55388003
Is this the one one with coreboot support?
I keep trying to find the 4 gb ECC ram version to replace my router but they don't ship to europe T_T
>>55389020
I'm using osmc and transmission on a pi 2. Works fine
>>55388082
HP t5740 thinclient on ebay
I have a Raspberry Pi 2 B+ that I bought last year and I haven't even used it yet. What can I do with it? Any idea friends?
>>55391533
You could install an OS on it. And then do what your desktop could do anyway.
>>55391348
What would you use a serial port for? I'm not trying to imply that it's useless/unnecessary. I'm asking because the only devices that use serial ports that I've seen in the last five years are some network devices which have a console that can be accessed through RS232
>>55391496
>msata pci-e
Does that slot support both msata and mpcie devices?
>>55391496
>>55392378
With how old that is I doubt it supports mSATA on that Mini PCI Express slot.
>>55388187
My Xeon 1240v2 is bretty chill lad
>passively cooled
>one case fan
>>55392378
No idea, it was meant for a wifi card
But the PCIe slot is proprietary, you need an extension for it, pic related
Then you can use a PCI or PCIe 4x card
>>55385067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Bit
Prolly has very limited usefulness (if not downright useless), but it does what it says on the tin, that is to at least expose kids with babby programming
What do you people even do with these credit-card mini PCs? Too poor to even buy a generic desktop PC?
>>55385290
Bumping for interest
>>55394100
Personally, nothing.
My company do use Pi zero for mdk because company is too cheap to buy new uvision arm mdk tool)
>>55386009
>>55391496
i've used an older HP thin client before
i forget the exact specs, wasn't mine, had a 1G DoM, and ran XP embedded (also ran ubuntu on it)
it's about what you'd expect from a netbook, just with no screen
they are standard PC's, so you can run whatever you like on them easily
Is there a good single board computer that can host a private WoW server?
I'm satisfied as long as it can hold two player without any issues.
>>55394100
Why buy a large and power hungry generic desktop PC when I can get a little low power SBC? Besides, good luck finding a MIPS or ARM generic desktop PC.
>>55394220
wtf you're talking about?
>>55394100
i have an rpi running openelec that is connected to my TV, which streams media off of an emby server
all it needs to be able to do is run kodi and decode video
besides being cheaper, the rpi is also small (hides away anywhere), low power, and silent. perfect for just leaving it there running all the time, ready to use at any moment
am I still banned
>>55394881
4chan.org/banned
>>55394276
google "mdk"
>>55392356
It's more a of a security feature then something else.
Imagine having SoC's has network apliances that dealt with the exterior... would you rather have SSH open to outside when you have physical access?
>>55392356
DIY projects. RS232 is much easier to implement than something like USB.
Are any of the Orange Pi's good? I see that the prices are very good and the performance looks great, but I'm skeptical about the support for the boards...
>>55391372
nigger they are based in europe and have like 5 times more european distributors than us distributors.
>>55385067
Can the arduino be used in the same way a raspberry pi can? I always thought arduinos were a different thing.
>>55396209
They are quite different.
The Pi is an entire computer, Arduino is just a microcontroller. A pi has gigabytes of RAM and a CPU in the gigahertz range, Arduino a few kilobytes and and clock speeds in the single or double digit megahertz. Completely different applications.
>>55395989 Hardware is good, except broken usb power. Support is shit. Factory distro is broken and nobody cares, no documentation, no wiki, no guides, armbian community is pretty small.
It will work well as server or tv box with armbian distro, but with lower level stuff you're on your own.
>>55396307
>not writing a compressed operating system in assembly, and storing it on a microSD card and running it on your arduino
>>55396209 You can emulate arm on avr. But it's slow as fuck. Eg 2 hours to load loonix kernel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm0POwEtiqE
Wot
>>55397339
http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/edison_fuzz/
>>55397339
>What will you make?
The "maker culture" is making me want to commit a crime.
>>55397808
CS majors feel the same about WebDev/SJW's
>>55397339
holy shit, such specs in that form factor
>>55397913
Does anyone know if/when Raspbian will support 64 bit? Or alternatively, does anyone know of any AArch64 Linux distros that have good compatibility with the Raspberry Pi 3's hardware?
>>55396870
It would be extremely impractical to try and make an operating system for the Arduino, even if entirely in assembly. Keep in mind that it only comes with 32K for the program ROM, and 2K of RAM. It really should be a single application thing.
When do the CHIP start shipping out?
