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It's finally out senpai!
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>>55372226
Only retards buy Asus cards. Overpriced trash that's always middle of the pack at best in terms of temperatures and noise. Enjoy being a dumb brand whore.
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>>55372235
>>55372226
>asus
Into the trash.

Where's the gigabyte card?
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>>55372226
I was a ASUS fan, but their quaLITY HAS DROPPED VERY FAR.
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>>55372354
Exactly this....I hate everyone on /g/ but I would never tell them to buy ASUS. I hate no one that much.
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>>55372273
this.
gigabyte has never let me down in build quality so far.
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So then what's a good alternative to asus? I didn't realize their quality was dropping of so much. Can I still trust their motherboards too?
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>>55372273
In my rig :^)
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>>55372795
EVGA for Nvidia
Sapphire for AMD
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>>55372795
Gigabyte.
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>>55372898
Gigabyte is junk slightly better than low-end ASUS crap.
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>>55372911
kill yourself.
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>>55372795
>I didn't realize their quality was dropping of so much.
It didn't. Don't listen to Niggabyte shills.

>Can I still trust their motherboards too?
Yes, they're fine.
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>>55373046
Fuck off Gigashit marketer.
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>>55373079
eat shit sns/v/
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>Anything other than EVGA
Into the trash
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>>55373085
Only /v/ermin would actually use gigashit
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>>55373096
I would get their GTX 1070 if they'd bothered to upgrade the power phase, it's 4+1 for all their models except the very highest end one, which is 10+2.

How about you make the middle model 6+2 or something, cause I'm not buying the reference 4+1 garbage and i'm certainly not paying almost $500 for the 10+2 phase one.

Looks like asus or gigabyte for me.
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>>55373114
gigabyte is fucking reliable as hell.

I've had my p55a udr3 usb 3 overclocking my i7 870 to [email protected] for the past 6 years and itr hasn't given me a single fucking issue.

my windforce gtx680 doesn't even reach 60 degrees celcius when i tested itr in heaven benchmark.

fuck off
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I fucking hate what /g/ has become. Fanboys accuse each other of being shills and cry that their company is better.

Absolutely no discussion possible anymore. Why can't you idiots just have a normal discussion and showing why EVGA is good, or why ASUS is shit etc.
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>>55373096
>EVGA
>when there's no SSC version yet
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>>55373143
we're just playing m8.

Gigabyte and evga are both good brands.
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Asus is pretty decent in 9xx series but I've heard they make terrible AMD cards. Overall I'd say Asus/Gigabyte are in middle of the pack, EVGA and MSI are hit and miss since they usually have best OC but also tend to RMA/Overheat (MSI's twin frozr design is garbage desu). I'd say go EVGA since they tend to upgrade your GPU if you RMA it after a while.
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>>55373143
>Why can't you idiots just have a normal discussion and showing why EVGA is good, or why ASUS is shit etc.
because that's no fun
If I want to seriously discuss shit I just talk with my friends you know?
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who here /best 1080/
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>>55373447

$1 has been deposited into your EVGA shilling account
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>>55373131
the g1 is 6+2 you fucking knobhead.
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>>55373447
The 1070 costs $600 here and the 1080 costs $900.
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Gigabyte windforce 680 4gb, got it waterdamaged for only $50 and it's still going strong.

Fantastic brand imo, from what I've experienced so far.
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>>55372807
FAN STOP
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>>55373498
Yeah i fucking know, that's why I said
>Looks like asus or gigabyte for me
I was specifically talking about EVGA not having anything but 4+1 and 10+2.
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>asus

The Zotac gtx 1080 PGF will be the best version of the card, and the sturdiest.

Also EVGA are gpu pre-bin scumbags that organise and sell their high ASIC cards separately for atrocious prices.

If you want something good for the price at the moment, just go with the Inno3D 3x

http://videocardz.com/60547/comparison-of-custom-geforce-gtx-1080-pcbs
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>>55376072
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>>55372235
>Overpriced
Literally priced equally or less.
>Middle of the pack temps and noise
Every review I've read has stated it is either equally quiet and hot as the competition, whilst some reviews put the Strix as quieter and cooler by 1-2 decibels and 1-3C.
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>>55373447
>not waiting for Classified

ISHYGDDT
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>>55376058

> sell their high ASIC cards separately for atrocious prices.

Watching them do that for maxwell cards was hilarious as maxwell doesn't respond too well to voltage for the most part, so higher ASIC is more or less meaningless.

>all those phases on a zotac card

Now if pascal responds well to voltage that might be worth it, but if pascal does not thats a whole lot of overkill for nothing (assuming said vrms aren't bottom barrel in the first place).
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>>55376072

jesus fuck you could shoot Ramiel with this
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>>55372226
you got the wrong card senpai
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>>55376374
evga jews out the silicone lottery to gaypin neutering the other 20 versions of the card too
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I can't wait for the AIB shootouts... I think the Strix is gonna come out on top.
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>>55376072
Okay, not good with identifying physical hardware, what exactly am i looking at and what makes it awesome/stupid?
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>>55377422

Compare that zotac board to a picture of the reference pcb.
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>>55376072
>not using Surface mounted caps
Blew it.
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>>55377471
Those are surface mount caps you troll you
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>>55377532
Those are PCB mounted caps.
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>>55377459
All I can get from what I'm reading and seeing is something about better power-delivery methods.
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>>55377471
>>55377532
>>55377640
Its power delivery is deliciously overkill.
1VRM phase gets:
2 caps, one PCB mounted one surface mounted(normal, it's usually 2 of each, not a mix of both)
3(!) mosfets with 1 capacitor for the third mosfet.(total and complete overkill)
1 driver per 2 VRM phase(normal)
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>>55377650

That is exactly what it is about.
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>>55377705
Of course the number of VRMs is also overkill.
And 16 VRMs is bordering on autism
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>>55372226
filtered :^)
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>>55376189
>Not waiting for Kingpin
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>>55377711
>>55377722
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>>55377728
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>55372795
EVGA
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>>55376072
Is Zotac actually good now? They used to get memed hard in the 5xx series.
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>>55377640
maybe you're thinking about ceramic vs electrolytic caps?
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>>55378230
What's the difference between these two cylindrical electrolytic caps?
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>>55378302

Not much.
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What do you guys think of the MSI gtx 1070 Armor? It's available where I live and relatively cheap. Also, it looks pretty cool.
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>>55378474
MSI's site sucks and I can't find any reviews of it, so I don't know if the PCB is customized and how good the cooling is, beyond that the fans are apparently not the latest TORX model.
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>>55378474
best looking one i've seen, don't know anything else about it at all
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>>55378302
Through hole vs surface mount?
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>>55372911
>gigabyte is junk slightly better than low-end ASUS
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>>55373137
mah neger
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>>55378664
Is there an echo in here?
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>>55378799
>(((You)))
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bump

Still hoping that someone knows something about the msi 1070 Armor qt.
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>>55379771

Things we know

>msi make it
>its called armor
>its a 1070
>it costs money
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Don't ever fucking call me senpai again you goddamn weeaboo
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MSI, EVGA and Gigabyte are better than Asus cancer.
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I got this coming in the mail next week for my first build.

Please bully me and tell me what poor choice I made.
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>mfw all this ASUS hate
>mfw all my monitors are ASUS, my last GPU was ASUS, my motherboard is ASUS, and I've never had a single problem with any of them
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>>55380251

Does asus red clash with the razer green?
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>>55380271
Sorry to disappoint but I don't even do brand favoritism. I just buy the cheapest thing that suits my needs.
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>>55379952
I'm about to buy it next time it comes in stock for my first build, so good job my man.
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>>55379952
It's the best deal out of the current 1070s. All other 8+6 pins are priced much higher. You have chosen wisely.
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>>55380251
semen demon?
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>>55380421
>>55380359
Thanks, lads.

I didn't spend a lot of time researching the differences, just glad I struck the right one.
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that zotac fpg version isn't available in europe? i've ordered the amp extreme instead
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>>55380655
>buying the garbage budget brand to save a few shekels on a GPU that expensive
Not even Jews do this. They know better.
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>>55380655

Zotac's AMP! range of cards tend to be some of the highest clocked cards you can buy (from a given gpu line).

>>55380778

The 970 AMP! is as fast as a 980 for example.
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>>55380778
the amp extreme is the third most expensive card there is, not looking at those hybrid watercool things.
https://www.alternate.be/html/product/listing.html?navId=1464185147271&tk=7&lk=13616&sort=PRICE&order=DESC#listingResult
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>>55380880

>not looking at those hybrid watercool things.

Hybrid cooling is for chumps by the way.
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>>55380794
Isn't the ASUS 20th anniversary Gold edition the highest clocked 980Ti?
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>>55380778
>zotac
>budget
Not since the fucking 400 series mate.
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>>55380924

It could be - but its nothing special within itself. For the premium they ask it doesn't overclock any better than any other 980ti despite what asus marketing claims.

They sold the 290x platinum as some sort of ultra tier 290x and it was one of the worst 290x's you could actually buy.
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>>55381285
ANUS is awful for AMD ever since 2012-13 or something.
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>>55381318

If you believe hardocp (I do not) they made a 290x that could pull more than a 295x2.
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>>55381349
It's not impossible, leaky chips all around and high voltage would do that.
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New to PCs, would you guys mind explaining why Asus apparentally is so low quality? My planned build has an Asus motherboard and monitor.
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>>55381393

BIOS alone would prevent that - unless the platinum has a 500w bios (which I doubt as even the msi 390x doesn't draw that much and thats a notoriously high voltage card). The max any 290x is likely to pull is 400w - the stock card can pull 375w at +50% power target and absolutely no AIB 290x comes clocked to that. Christ even the 1080mhz vapor-x and lighting only some with a + 20mv offset to allow for said clocks.
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>>55381429
We're talking GPUs, ANUS still has decent mobos and monitors.
Although it feels like their gimped kid, ASRock has been doing a better job recently on the mobo front.
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>>55381447

> ANUS still has decent mobos

They make the best AM3+ mobos money can buy.
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>>55381502
That's a 5 year old platform, anon.
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>>55381447
Well in terms of their GPUs then, what's the deal?
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>>55381558
They nosedived in quality over the last few years for money reasons.
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>>55381529

At some point it was new and their boards were top tier then. Age doesn't change how good said boards are for the cpus they support.

Consumerism go and stay go.
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>>55381583
You know what? SOLTEK is fucking God-tier.
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>>55372273
>>55372684
>>55372898
>>55372911

Really g? Gigabyte consistently makes the worst cards. They use a low quality PCB and components and throw a 3 fan cooler on to impress anyone who doesn't know any better. Their cards also often lack any form of overvolting support.

Right now the best AMD cards are MSI and Sapphire (but sapphire actually sucked pre R9 200 series).

The truth is that quality varies significantly by brand, era, and product tier. For example EVGA aftermarket cards were trash in the past, but their high end aftermarket classified cards were the shit. MSI has had the most consistent quality over time with all their cards.
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>>55381806
What? Sapphire made the best HD5000/4000 AMD cards, that's quite a few years before the R9 200
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>>55381842
They definitely didn't. Example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127509
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>>55381986
There's no way the Lightning was better than a vapor-x or Toxic
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>>55381602
They fucking are.
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>>55382148
Did I claim otherwise nigger?
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>>55381806
Dude my gigabyte gtx670 can overvolt to +200mv iirc, no way any sane person would use that though
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>>55382174
What's with GPUs and low voltage room compared to CPUs? You could get almost an entire fucking volt overclocking a CPU but GPUs shit themselves with 100mV
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>>55382216

CPUs and GPUs are wildly different approaches to how to compute data and as such respond very differently to power as well. GPUs are simply not built to handle massive variances in voltage as they (in theory) don't need to - to make a faster gpu you simply add more cores.

CPUs however are far more dependant upon clockspeed and thus need to respond better to voltage.
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>>55382009
Lightning 5870 was far better than the Vapor-X or Toxic. Even pulling from reviews on google:

"The MSI R5870 Lightning is an impressive graphics card with a number of unique design aspects. In terms of features, build quality and overclocking abilities, it is by far the best Radeon HD 5870 graphics card that we know of. "

I used to do a lot of bitcoin mining in the past and have had owned hundred of different cards at this point. I would pull off coolers and check PCB and soldered components. The MSI cards usually had the best parts and thickest PCB. It is usually an over engineered custom PCB design. Where as Sapphire would skimp out on component quality, have a thinner PCB, and would usually even remove parts off their boards from the reference design to save on production costs. XFX is probably the worst offender in doing this. Some of their non-reference designs were shockingly bad.
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what fucking brand do you fags want me to buy either im a shill, a poorfag or an idiot for buying whatever brand
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>>55382316
My gtx670 uses the gtx680 reference pcb, which I'm pretty happy with.

I'll probably upgrade to 480 when good ones come out.

>>55382342
Powercolor, gigabyte, evga, galax, palit, pretty much anything but asus
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>>55376072
More fuel for the house fire
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What's the best motherboard brand? I use MSI and everything's working as intended. What is g's opinion of Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock, etc?
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>>55383588
Lga1156 gigabyte here still working perfectly fine with gtx670 sli.
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>>55383588

Depends on what chipset you are talking. msi's AM3+ boards are infamous for blowing vrms for example.
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>>55383588
Also, my dads still on an ecs 1155 board. He doesn't oc though
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>>55383639
>>55383663
Let's say Intel, and the most popular Sockets right now, 1150, 1151, 2011, etc.
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>>55383697

Average/10.

They don't tend to offer anything special but do give a decent selection of features for a given chipset. To be honest unless you are really into overclocking msi's boards are fine.

Heavy overclocking requires more research.
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>>55383639

Yep, my MSI AM3+ mobo that hosted my 8320 blew. destroyed my 8320, so I decided fuck AM3+ and got a 4790k and an Asus maximus 7 in its place
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>>55383850

it irks me that a lot of reviers slap a 9590 onto a msi 970 mobo and wonder why said 9590 exhibits thermal throttling. Gee maybe its because you bolted a 200w cpu onto a board only rated for 140w!
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