Linus Torvalds, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerburg , Ben Zhao
All my idols seem to use them. I always thought macbooks were overpriced and overrated by lib arts people , but after seeing everyone using them , II'm considering buying one.
Doesn't Torovoldos use a Pixel now?
>>55365124
Sigh...
Nice thread, Anon...
>>55365142
Thx
>>55365124
> Top Engineer
> Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg
Nice try, shill
Nice idols bro
>>55365124
also tcpip and www inventors
>>55365171
What laptop does he use?
>>55365124
> Worrying about what computers other people use
> Not realizing apple gave it to them for free
Anon, these people are not great because they decided, at one point in their lives, to use macs
>>55365186
Piece of shit from 2005.
>>55365124
>but after seeing everyone using them , II'm considering buying one.
why don't you do some research and make a decision based on that instead of blindly picking the same hardware someone else uses?
>>55365226
I'm doing that now.
What are the benefits? I want to figure out why so many top engineers use macbooks
>>55365201
But if I was a billionaire and I could buy any computer in the world like Musk or Zuckerburg , why choose a Mac?.
>>55365258
They have solid build quality and mediocre components for their price. But there's not much competition in that market. The only alternatives are business class laptops, which are even more overpriced.
>>55365258
>What are the benefits?
It just werks
The hardware, while overpriced, is still pretty nice quality
Good warranty/support
>>55365258
If I were a billionaire, I am sure I would have better things to do than worry about which laptop was better. But that being said, posix compliant is pretty comfy. Or you can just install le fedora like torvalds.
>>55365124
Linus is the only one of those that actually writes code and he used a Macbook briefly and got rid of it. He switched to a Sony Vaio and now a Pixel.
>>55365412
I thought he used openSuse.
Torvalds got rid of his because it was shit.
>>55365467
Ok, so since you're wrong (Zuck was a programmer, Zhao was, too) i have to ask --
what other things have you assumed in your life?
>>55365124
I remember torvalds say he got it because it had a quiet fan.
>>55365124
> Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerburg , Ben Zhao
none of these people have an engineering degree
they are business people aka "suits"
and really do not know jack about computers
>>55365509
Zuch made a PHP disaster and stopped programming over a decade ago. All the original Facebook engineers and even Zuck himself have admitted that the original code was absolute garbage.
Ben Zhao also stopped writing real code over a decade ago and admitted as much in his HN interview.
>>55365509
Musk programs a bit too
>>55365566
Ben Zhao is computer science prof.
>>55365124
Because, when you need to get shit done you need a stable system and a unix terminal.
>>55365579
There are exceptions but professors typically write atrocious code.
if you're advertising the product, by using the product publicly, your organization gets discounts on the product
apple, cisco, ti
this isn't new
>>55365258
I have a 2009 MacBook Pro and used to program on it. It was pretty nice once I got it set up, but setting it was a bitch for some stuff. I wouldn't recommend dropping $1300 for a new one especially with all the changes made to them. The chiclet keys are god awful.
>>55365138
He does.
>>55365608
Apple doesn't really have a quality high end laptop anymore. I couldn't replace my 2012 Macbook Pro even if I wanted to.
Torvalds uses a Chromebook Pixel now.
Because its unix underneath and everyone is lazy
all of the jobs I've interviewed for that paid like 100k+ (not bay or nyc), the engineers all have macbooks
I work in a buisness that mainlines mac products over Apple, and really the breakdown is like this:
PROS:
>bash shell means great integration with most linux distros, especially redhat/centos
>less intuitive structure means that it is hard for casual or common users to fuck shit up, due to complications in moving in the directory structure
>brand support means all of your apple products talk to each other, regardless of platform
>simple, and pretty, easy for elderly, and children to pick up due to freindly gui.
CONS
>while relativley secure, no DOD contractors will use it because of uncle sam's security guidelines
>apple owns your ass, and calls all the shots. Laptops and most desktop models no longer come with cd drices, you have to buy one seperate, also buy into the lightning bolt connector meme. Expect the mac not to have the physical plugs you want
>bluetooth everything, not a lot of security in your transmit data
>if you want service for anything, apple stores and mac 'geniuses' for everything, so more apple pushing brand and brand prices down your throat and wallet.
>chinese everything, unlike windows that contracts to multiple manufacturers like dell and hp, apple has just apple. Artificial inflation and monopoly pricing.
Picture illustrates Apple's hunger for money
>>55365124
Musk is a physicist.
>>55365124
>linus thorvalds
>top engineers
Are you fucking serious?
>>55365636
What are you talking about? Of course they do, it's the 15" MacBook Pro.
>>55365882
> 3 year old hardware with massive heating problems when under load
No.
>>55365798
>apple owns your ass, and calls all the shots. Laptops and most desktop models no longer come with cd drices, you have to buy one seperate, also buy into the lightning bolt connector meme. Expect the mac not to have the physical plugs you want
CD drives are basically useless in 2016 and THUNDERBOLT is not a meme. It's Intel's project and basically the successor to Firewire.
>bluetooth everything
Uh, no. What?
>>55365911
Well if you want to believe /g/ memes, go ahead.
>>55365509
>was
Are you literally so dumb that I need to point out the past tense?
>>55365124
Linus switch to a Sony VAIO though.
Because they got those macs for free from Apple so they can carry them around and show it off. Free shilling.
>>55365124
Poo in the fucking loo Rajeesh.
>>55365813
He hasn't worked in physics since he graduated. He mostly does engineering stuff
>>55365124
>zuckerberg
>top engineers
I see what you did there!
When you actually produce content you want your tools to just werk; you don't want be distracted and waste your precious time by having to spend hours troubleshooting software and/or hardware.
If you guys ever actually created anything for a living you would know why successful people use macbooks.
>>55365984
He is. Facebook is a top site. I wonder which laptop m00t uses?
>>55365124
Falls for bandwagon meme
>>55366007
2 rupees have been deposited in your shit wiping hands Pajeet!
>>55365941
I had one and had to have the motherboard replaced 3 times due to heating issues. After the third two week long repair without a replacement laptop I said fuck it and bought a thinkpad x240.
>>55366007
>having your time be more valuable than your money
Clearly you don't understand the demographics of 4chan.
>>55366026
I believe moot used at shitty Dell at one point. I recall a really goofy angled picture of him outside with one in his lap.
Now that he works at Google who knows? Probably something nice.
>>55366026
>>55365124
All laptops are shitty. Macbook Pros are less shitty than most. Macbook is unmatched for aesthetic design quality, but there are others with just as good of build quality (or better):
Some Lenovo Thinkpad lines
Panasonic Toughbook
Dell Rugged
Arguably HP Elitebook and Getac as well.
>>55365258
from >>51971506
> /g/ is NOT your personal tech support team or personal consumer review site.
>>55365124
>Mark Zuckerburg
Goddammit. Lost hard.
>>55366075
I'm guessing you had one of the ones with the G92 chips or whichever.
>>55365166
haha this
>>55365205
He uses a Libre Thinkpad X60 with Trisquel GNU/Linux.
>>55365186
Thinkpad T60
Lemote YeeLong is a friend of freedoms too
>>55366626
>Macbook is unmatched for aesthetic design quality,
Aesthetic is one thing I couldn't give a flying fuck about. If it isn't fucking hot, and I can easily replace parts and not have to deal with soldered RAM and bullshit from Apple, I'll take it. But I love Thinkpads for how easy they are to work on.
Fuck form over function.
>>55365941
>reality is a meme
Mactards everyone.
>>55365582
>unix terminal
a hodgepodge of outdated downstream versions, gnu & freebsd mix of fuckery.
>>55367221
brew install coreutils
Will Ubuntu for Windows be better then homebrew?
>>55366956
As of yesterday, If you repair your own apple product, Apple can sue the shit out of you.
In most corporate environments that support both Windows and Macs the Macs are usually not as badly locked down and you should use them if you get the choice.
>>55367266
Tfw NSAsoft is gonna kill the freetard movement
>>55365124
Elon Musk usés Dell
>>55367313
there are ways to mitm the app store in a broken attempt at local repos. you can be effectively limited in your "not as badly locked down" software choices.
>>55367303
>As of yesterday, If you repair your own apple product, Apple can sue the shit out of you.
Read it again.
I don't see ifixit.com (lately macfixit.com) going out of business.
All I see is some desperate blogger straining for free publicity, which /g/ gives him without a thought.
>>55367221
OSX almost doesnt have GNU aids except.of that OS who lacks a good editor.
>>55367093
>caring about the last procesdor on a consumer laptop
>in fucking 2016
I bet you're a muh gaymen kid.
>>55365138
I thought he switch again to some regular brand ultrabook like a Vaio. He was really just on the macbook air for the (mostly) fanless operation and on the pixel for the high-res screen, and lots of laptops have those features now.
>>55367405
>mactoddler runs out of arguments
>goes back to spewing memes
Fuck off retard.
>>55367514
Oh, the bismuth.
>>55367370
you're right. they've phased out over time, but they're still behind on stuff life pf and openssh, which I'm sure they don't patch themselves.
>using Fedora GNU/Linux on a mac
>>55367321
>NSAsoft is gonna kill the freetard movement
if anything Canonical will
>>55365166
Just because Mark loves money doesn't mean he isn't smart.
100 poos deposited in your loo, Pajeet.
>>55365186
Because everyone else has one. Yes, that is the actual answer. Almost all very successful people are either really smart, or can fit in really well. The ones that have household names often are both.
I would imagine it all started with the iPhone 3, and nobody ever changed because there really isn't a reason to. As you move up in the ladder, everyone has Apple products, and they poke fun at you if you don't have them.
>>55366007
You try doing any instrumentation programming in a research lab in academia or industry with your toy. If you use small proprietary software for data analysis of if the company slaps something together for you, it will most likely be Windows only and trying to use it with parallels will wreck you. Also connectivity. Had a laptop that could actually use an express slot adapter to communicate with an xray detector.
>>55368039
>this is what tyrone actually believes
>>55365861
Let's take the bait. Why wouldn't he be in that list? The guy is the author of the only competitor kernel in whole OS business. Others are just vertical integration schemes.
Yes the linux is unorganized, terribly documented and grew too rapidly to be kept less buggy but it's still quite an achievement.
I am writing this on a late 2013 MBP. I did shit tons of research before buying anything and really they're not overpriced for the hardware. The main selling point for me is the POSIX compliance. I don't NEED Unix-like stuff for anything, but it makes me much happier than running Windoze. Also I cannot be assed to make the battery last more than four hours while running GNU/Linux. I have an Ubuntu partition as well, but as I said the battery life is shit unless I spend my entire life tweaking it. Being able to actually use the CLI is a godsend, now when I use Windoze I get so frustrated doing anything. I cannot understand how normies think it's "easier" than Unix-like.
Anyway yeah, if you like the retina BS get a MBP. If you don't care or really want to be able to open your laptop up with screwdrivers that you didn't specialty order over the internet, there are other good options too. I think dell has some XPS or something that is solid. Sony had some good stuff, though a bit more expensive IIRC. A Pixel seems nice, but look into that more. Note that you will probably be running Windows on any other machine, or you will install Gentoo and realize that your battery is dead every time you unplug it.
Because they are successful people who can afford good hardware?
>>55368106
you needing proprietary software and a PCI slot doesn't mean my MBP is a toy. it does mean though that you're trapped using some of the worst software on the planet.
>>55368179
Poo in the fucking loo Rajeesh.
>>55368205
>macshit
>good hardware
Pick one.
>>55368214
Lord there was this one that was written in a horrible hybrid of visual Basic 6, labVIEW and some assembly. The fact every font was comic sans only made it better.
I'm just salty cause the business end guys wanted us to put a crude prototype of analysis software and unit control on a MacBook and I wasted a week doing driver nonsense.
There's three Macbooks:
Plain: worse than celeron piece of shit with the worst keyboard in the history of computing
Air: same 1366x768 TN piece of shit you find on $200 craptops, and it's glossy on top of that
Pro: if you try to use the high end hardware they cram into it, it catches fire
They're all utter shit, and only a moron would buy any of them.
The level of autism in this thread is ground breaking.
>>55365124
>I see you're using gnome
>>55368426
Air's screen is niether 1366x768 nor TN you ignorant twat. Also mate vs glossy is a pc only thing, it's meaningless for glass screens. Better luck next time kid.
>>55370965
They could use a matte screen, but they choose to use glass instead.
>>55365124
Used Windows for 15 years. Tried ubuntu this year, had to use OS X for a new programming job this year.
For programming, Linux and OS X >>>>>>> Windows
For general purpose work or random normie tools like games, Windows works
For any other serious IT work Linux with GNU
>>55368368
I will pray for you every day.
>>55365124
because they don't care
they don't even use latest models
it just werks
>>55365124
it workz
it´s easy
and it takes away unnecessary choices
which is a thing these people have a preference for
>>55365124
>werks
>unix, and even if gnu utils are old, those still werks
Literally all you need to be productive in IT
>>55365124
is it really a mystery?
>good hardware
>good ergos
>unix for devving
>m$ office and other software when needed
Also because dem virtual desktops mayne. I can handle more than a couple software projects, gitkraken, mail client, tickets all at the same time with ease thanks to it
>>55371118
>macshit
>good hardware
Fuck off Pajeet.
>>55365124
been using MBA for 2 years now alongside my windows gaming machine.
Pros:
>nice trackpad and OS works well with it out of the box
>OS works well with limited screen real estate out of the box
>run into less bugs and software issues
>pretty though build and can take some abuse
>magsafe charger
>OS has neat distraction free fullscreen mode
>top application menu bar is pretty handy
>good battery life
>programs install and uninstall with less issues
>better filesystem
>once you get used to the command key its more comfortable than hitting CTRL on a windows machine
Cons:
>the dock is annoying as fuck and its too easy to launch the wrong application (only having running applications on wide tabs like windows XP would be ideal)
>the dock has no option to display multiple windows as separate icons
>stuck with ugly color scheme and theme
>its fussy about accessing network shares from my gaming machine
>only 2 usb ports
>they intentionally put the ctrl key in a wonky place to piss you off when you are accessing a windows machine via RDP (should be swapped with FN key)
>expensive accessories
>limited gaming options
Conclusions:
>would buy another laptop from apple but would never bother with their desktops
>OS feels like a mix of a tablet/phone OS and Windows
>>55365124
Mark Zuckerburg thinks "dadada" is a good password.
Really makes you think.
Professional engineers don't want to waste hours configuring their system (Linux) or waste hours configuring their software environment and still having very little 3rd party tools support (Windows)
Serious answer: because after a while you realize that modern laptops are already good enough for virtually any kind of development you think of (and lets face it -- most modern development could easily be done on a cell phone processor.)
This means that the laptop that's lightest and the most portable is the one you end using the most since you always have to go to places, give tech demos, go to talks, etc. In other words even though the hardware is shit the portability, battery life, screen brightness, and relatively stable environment more than make up for it.
After all, a machine is just a tool and a hammer in the hands of a carpenter is still more useful than a turbo hammer 9000 in the hands of an amateur. This humble tool has written many shit posts just like this one. Brought to you by a macfag, tm.
>>55371202
If this were 10 years ago I wouldn't say so, but these days...
There's three Macbooks:
Plain: worse than celeron piece of shit with the worst keyboard in the history of computing
Air: same 1366x768 TN piece of shit you find on $200 craptops, and it's glossy on top of that
Pro: if you try to use the high end hardware they cram into it, it catches fire
They're all utter shit, and only a moron would buy any of them.
>>55371240
>Mark Zuckerburg thinks "dadada" is a good password.
[citation needed]
>>55370965
all macbook airs screens are TN
and the 11" air is 1366x768 which isn't great, but on an 11" screen isn't terrible
but the 13" air has a 1400x900 screen that is pretty good for it's size (higher effective resolution than the 13" pro un scaled)
>>55365124
All memes aside, if money isn't an issue (meaning, you really couldn't care less whether it's 500 bucks, 1000 bucks or 2000 bucks, because your company is paying for it and it's peanuts for them either way), MacBooks are great fucking machines, and everybody who's opinion is worth a shit knows that. Who gives a fuck what the opinionated NEETs on this board think, really. In the end the whole discussion boils down a few hundred bucks the most (which is honestly nothing if you have a decent job) or the fear of being associated with a certain group of people like we're still in high school. Fuck that.
>>55371802
2 rupees have been deposited in your Apple affiliate account Pajeet.
Do you think it would improve Mac products if they revived the 800k floppy drives? Because I mean, those things were so fucking cool.
>>55371332
>[citation needed]
[citation needed]
How about that? You need a citation for your need for a citation.
>>55365941
>i-it's o-only m-m-memes
>>55372250
>Windows
KEKEKEKKEKEKEKEKKE
>>55365124
Because all engineers are gay.
They are no different to the lib arts crowd.
>>55372815
Of course it is. The only programs on mactoddlerOS are gaymes and other shit that wouldn't even stress a Celeron.
>>55365166
this, both just cunning salesmen
>>55372888
pretty good b8
MacBooks are terribly overpriced, but if you don't have to worry about money and don't hate on it because it's from Apple, it's a good laptop.
>>55365975
He's sitting down running autocad designing vehicles and rockets right? He's a physicist/organizer.
>>55373109
>MacBooks are terribly overpriced,
All the comparable laptops cost more.
Please, no putting up crippled failures like Chromebook.
macs are for people with jobs or rich parents.
thinkpads are for professionals.
everything else is garbage.
>>55365882
solder 16gb
>>55365124
>All my idols seem to use them. I always thought macbooks were overpriced and overrated by lib arts people , but after seeing everyone using them , II'm considering buying one.
They're super rich. A $2000 laptop is practically the same price range as a $500 one for them; pocket change.
They're also highly successful because of their talents, business acumen, luck, etc, not because of what computer they you, you fucking autist.
>>55365166
Musk is literally the only one of the bunch that is actually an engineer.
>>55367321
Already tainted.
>>55377054
what a time to be alive.
>>55377054
>Already tainted.
The beauty is that everyone can contribute.
>>55365166
>>55366905
>>55372987
> elon musk
> not the smartest engineer in the planet today
>>55368121
> the only competitor kernel in whole OS business
only that BSD is superior and torvaldtos couldn't even rip it off properly
>>55371037
sysadmin detected
>>55375345
>thinkpads are for professionals
http://blog.cr4.sh/2016/06/exploring-and-exploiting-lenovo.html
