The widespread trend of computers packaged without optical drives.
Who thought this was a good thing?
>>55358080
grandpa / 10
>>55358100
I'd bet I'm younger than you pal.
>>55358080
Optical Drives are fucking useless. The only proper use of a optical drive is to take the shit off and replacing with a SSD in the tray.
CDs are dying.
USB, Thuderbolt, Bluetooth, the Cloud are now deemed more efficent.
>>55358113
is there a medium that is still in current circulation that deteriorates as fast as CDs
>>55358143
but not including a drive means in order to use perfectly good media on discs (which we all have numbering in the billions) we'll have to buy some kind of stupid adapter
I really can't remember the last time I used the CD drive except to rip a movie, but I just download them now.
>>55358166
Vinyls?
>>55358166
what do you mean deteriorates?
if you don't gnaw on your cds they will always be fine longer than you're going to live
>>55358183
I have 0 of such discs
>>55358241
I can't explain you
maybe a computer is a facebook browsing device to you
>>55358080
Optical driver is deprecated because there are many super set alternatives. However, here I note that Internet isn't one of alternatives.
Optical drives have close to no uses nowadays
>OS installation in case you lost all of your flash drives
>accessing ancient data that you didn't bother copying over
and that's pretty much it
Me.
Less moving parts.
And barely anyone uses optical media anymore and when you do you can always use an external drive.
>>55358143
Yet another reason to purchase the new Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display.
>>55358080
2004 called and said you are a fucking retarded if you want to use CDs in 2016
>>55358228
nah, most CD-Rs stop working after 10 years
Literally the only thing I still have discs for are driver disks and my OS.
And those I have backed up on my server and on a USB stick for easy access incase I need to reinstall.
Besides that I just use my drive for putting my bluray collection on my hard drive
>>55358491
Burnable CD-Rs sure.
>>55358491
I've never had one just up and die
I've got lots of cd-rs older than that
I used to think this, but I realized I was wrong because I never fucking use CD's or DVD's. Thumb drives are more convenient and faster.
>>55358183
>Convert media into ISOs
>Buy dirt cheap USB drives
>"Burn" ISOs to USB drives as needed
>>55358491
>>55358649
this thread had me look for my oldest cd-r, and now I'm listening to best of ac/dc
it's a good place to be
OP is getting slaughtered
Personally I'm still angry that they're not including floppies and Zip disks.
It'd been 5 years since I last used CD. And it was . Pretty much everything can be stored on CD may now be accessed through internet and/or USB drives.
>>55358296
I'm just someone who doesn't use obsolete hardware
Who even uses spinny disks any more? Between thumbdrives replacing CD-RW and SSDs replacing hard drives, I'm happy i dont have to deal with slow-as-fuck spinny shit any more.
>>55359031
a dvd-r along can store nearly 5gb
nice try comparing this to fucking diskss
>>55358080
If I don't use an optical drive why the fuck would I need one in my laptop? If you need one that bad, quit being a little candy ass and buy a portable usb one.
>>55358080
This would be an issue, if optical drives weren't completely redundant.
>>55359136
An 8gb usb stick is probably cheaper than a DVD.
And you can basically rewrite it as much as you like.
>>55358491
Don't store them on the dashboard of you're car.
>>55359136
>5gb
thats small as fuck nigga
what is this? 2005?
>>55358080
When one is actually included, it's noisy as fuck.
>>55359121
this as fuck
>>55359121
you only think it's obsolete
>>55358080
dang, that's a sexy looking device
You know what really grinds my years? Missing the clutch pedal then trying to shift at the wrong rpm.
How often do you unexpectedly need to use an ODD?
Pulling numbers out of my ass the volume that an ODD takes could be used for another 3 hours of battery life.
>>55358080
Buy a USB DVD-RW. It'll last you for as long as CDs/DVDs remain relevant.
>Who thought this was a good thing?
The only good about still having an optical drive dock is that you can put an extra battery / HDD in it on a good laptop.
>>55359009
>dadrock
>literally the worst most generic dadrock
>>55359209
>An 8gb usb stick is probably cheaper than a DVD.
No.
When they first started dropping optical drives I was entirely on your side, now if I ever ended up with an optical drive in a laptop I'd probably replace it with a 2.5" bay
>>55359502
well shoot son, I didn't realize how soft men got in the 5 years that separates our generation
>>55359502
>not listening to a 0x7CA CD bootleg of Nick Land's Meltdown
>0x7E0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiaWsgtJrNI
I still burn discs for my car.
>>55359580
And you need an internal drive in your laptop just for that?
>>55359615
Never said I did. Got one in my dock.
Haven't used one since 2006 when installing shrine circus tycoon. I don't put them in client's computers unless they ask.
>>55358100
fpbp
>>55359513
If you compare the price of the drive plus n DVDs with n usb sticks plus the flexibility of a USB stick... Definitely
https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Portable-Rewriter-External-GP60NB50/dp/B00C2AMK2M/
$26 for an external DVD drive, and you can leave it at home where it belongs instead of sacrificing valuable space inside your laptop that could be better dedicated to HDD/SSD or extra battery.
Literally only a fool would want an internal optical drive on a laptop in 2016.
>>55359580
same here
although using an mp3 player is also really convenient with newer cars
>>55360913
why do they also do this with towers
that's the worst sin
>>55361220
Or a cassette player: https://youtu.be/aMb0F4YaQ7I
>>55361395
I had a 2006 model that still had a cassette player, on top of the cd player.
the nice thing about that is a cassette adapter allows you to interface anything with the car stereo, something the cd player can't do
>>55358166
have plenty of CDs from ~1990-present and have never had read issues that weren't from scratched to shit disks
>>55359580
same
I had a bluetooth radio tuner in it for a while that worked okay until it died 2 days after the warranty expired, I don't give enough of a shit to go pay out the ass for a new one when I can just burn one or two CDs and last for a month or more
>>55358080
You know what grinds my gears?
>tfw no modern 4:3 laptops
>>55359561
its a mu meme
>>55361724
For real, digged out some ancient IBM monitor with 1280x1024 resolution and it is unbeatable for productivity. I guess it's a little much for a laptop, but I wish at least that 3:2 was more common.
>>55361724
Fucking this
>>55361820
What kind of work can be done better on a 4:3 screen? When I have to use 4:3 displays, I feel restrained by them, and doing work on them feels slower.
16:9
>>55361238
I do it in at least one of my computers because I need the SATA port for something else.
>>55358080
I haven't used an optical drive in roughly 3 years anon. Why do you need one?
>>55362022
Programming, reading papers, web.
>>55362227
I'm used to splitting my screen in half when I have to look at two things at once. 16:9 or 16:10 feels better for me, because it's easier to keep your stuff side by side.
>>55362457
it depends on the resolution for me. if its some shit like 1366x728 im going to prefer 4:3
>>55358183
Even when I had a disc drive I usually just downloaded the media I wanted rather than digging out the disc, it's just easier.
>>55358080
Buy a Japanese laptop and just count your blessings that they still are manufactured.
>>55361724
There is at least the 3:2 Chromebook Pixel. It's not 4:3, sure, but it is less wide-screen than any modern laptop.
You can also nigger-rig a 4:3 iPad display to a RasPi.
>>55363209
None of these are good alternatives.
>>55359580
When I got my car it had an aftermarket stereo with a CD player; I replaced it with the stock unit so I could connect my phone with a cassette adapter.
>>55359580
same
have to drag out an old laptop I have to burn the discs because I haven't been able to bring myself to go get an external drive when I have a machine that still has an optical drive, as much of a hassle as the machine is
kind of wish I had a car that played MP3s
my dad asked me to load some MP3s onto a stick after I noticed his would play media files off of a flash drive, just copied the entirety of his old iTunes folder from forever ago when he had an B/W iPod and away he went
Every "ultra book" should come with an external optical drive. Problem fucking solved.
>>55358080
I thought it was a good thing. A USB DVD-RW is approx $30 and it's about as useful today as a USB floppy. Buy one and store it in your closet until you get over the fact that you'll never need it for anything.
>>55367306
>my needs are everybody's needs
>>55367315
Some people still need floppies too. They'd probably be embarrassed to post on /g/ about it. Maybe you should take a cue from them.
>>55367315
your needs are shit and old
>>55367349
Eat a dick you piece of shit
>optical drive in a portable machine in 2016
>something the vast majority of buyers will use maybe once a year taking 40% of the internal space all the time
You're very smart. Just get an external drive like everyone else for the rare occasion you need it and shut the fuck up. You don't get neckbeard points by pretending to be into old tech.
>>55367367
>neckbeard points
lol. sounds like something best avoided anyway.
>>55358080
>tfw ThinkPad
>Change between Optical drive and HDD with a button
serves you right for buying a pleb laptop
>>55367363
lol are you 12? You're all butthurt because your most familiar piece of technology is obsolete?
>>55358080
apple
>>55361724
>4:3
3:2 is the way anon.
>>55367445
I'm not butthurt at all. I'm just sick of bastards acting all smug because they don't use something others do.
>>55359223
This is exactly why I removed mine. Fuck those things.
>>55367349
using floppy disks is treated as some kind of oldfag badge of honor on /g/, the only people who give a shit about storage mediums to the point that they would feel embarrassed about their choices are hipsters like you who think you're hot shit because you saved $20 not installing one in your trashy gaymer shitbox
>>55359223
>>55367831
>I have to hear them quietly self-test when I start my computer and it's awful
????
>>55367820
Then get an external drive? Fuck. Internal optical drives on laptops have always been a bad idea.
>>55368092
I never said anything about a drive in a laptop, I'm just talking in general. I've got one DVD drive in my server and one in my laptop dock. If I had a laptop with a DVD drive it'd probably have been replaced with an HDD or SSD by now.
>>55368092
why? because they can hypothetically be used to get you an extra hour of battery life when your system can already get 10-13?
>Who thought this was a good thing?
Uhh, most people?
I've used my DVD drive once since buying it ~2 years ago.
The only thing you kind of need an ODD for anymore is installing windows 7 and winserver 2008, since they don't support usb3 out of the box. Even with those, ISOs are available online and you can load that shit into a VM with a raw disk image and skip slow ass DVD installation entirely.
>>55368120
Because I have a rewritable 64gb SD card the size of a fingernail.
>>55358080
Because CDs are a shit, inferior medium
>>55368514
Depends on the purpose
>>55368233
I still use my Optical drive to rip Music CDs.
I'm the minority though
They should include them, but make them hotswappable like on a Thinkpad
Replaced mine with another hard drive
>>55368638
They're not hotswappable but you can swap the optical drive for a 2.5" bay in basically any laptop. I did it to my PowerBook G4 not too long ago.
>>55368659
>iShit
>replaceable anything.
Fuck off pajeet.
>>55368233
just use a usb 2 drive
or even better, stop using windows 7
>>55368668
It must really piss you off that next on the list is swapping the HDD for dual SSDs and upgrading the screen from TN 1024x768 to IPS 1400x1050
Enjoy those shitty memes anon
>>55358080
I am glad they don't include them anymore, it frees up a lot of space for actually useful hardware. Even my car can read music from USB drives, no excuse to use optical media nowadays.
>>55368571
>buying music
I sure hope it's just so you can upload that shit.
>>55368868
Not him but I love buying CDs. I'll always prefer physical media. Plus there's something nice about ripping your own music.
>>55358080
in a laptop, the less moving parts the better
i have a dvd drive in my desktop for the rare occasion when i need one, and iso mounting makes this a perfectly fine solution
You know what really grinds my gears? 16:9 garbage
>>55368868
I like to support the small artists i listen to, also this >>55368885
>but they don't get anything
Better than nothing since i can't go to their concerts.
>>55362148
>>55368973
there is a gleam of hope
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-survey-3-whats-under-the-hood/
>16:10 aspect ratio was also significantly preferred
>>55360767
A lot of people already have CD/DVD drives. You don't have to compare the price of the drive when you're just walking down to the local supermarket to buy an 8 dollar 10-pack of DVD-Rs. By your logic, you should include the price of your machine plus your USB stick. Then what's still cheaper?
ITT: Children sticking their fingers in their ears yelling "stop using what I don't use"
>>55358901
This man's on point. I hate having to take up so much disk space though.
>>55368077
I have an authentic box of CDC StorageMaster quad density 5.25" disks upstairs. Bet you can't top that.
>>55370272
>Anonymous
Isn't that what crapple does when they want you to use their servers instead of your own storage devices that are connected via a serial bus instead of a series of network cables, electromagnetic radiation, and other servers?
>Optical is dated use icloud you don't need a superdrive (or the second hard drive you can replace the optical drive with, because icloud)
>USB is outdated use iCloud, you only need one port
>>55370415
iWantyourpersonaldata
>>55359580
I just got a 2005 van. It has a cassette player, cd player, dvd player, and A/V in. Guess which one I want to use the most.
>>55370459
cassette
>>55370426
More like iwantexcusestosellyoumorecrap. It's apple. They're not in the data market unless the FBI is buying.
>now how about icloud PREMIUM? MORE SPACE, ONLY 99.99 A MONTH!
Also see iOS software installation
>buy our developer license, because you should have to pay to use your computer. it stops you from getting viruses.
>>55370459
>barely faster than a WRX STI
Please buy something that can go up a steep on ramp at a more reasonable speed
>>55368077
>using floppy disks is treated as some kind of oldfag badge of honor on /g/
It does. It means you lived back when using a computer took real guts and neckbeard skills.
>>55370464
Wasn't it obvious
>>55370476
What are you smoking dude
>>55370493
What aren't I fucking smoking
What board is this even
>>55358080
>>55358113
> had a t500
> optical drive
> owned it for ~4-5 years now
> used optical drive once
> bought new ROG laptop
> bought caddy instantly
> now I enjoy three drives in laptop
> never missed the drive
CD/DVD is obsolete.
Everything can be done with pendrives, like Acronis, installing an OS, running live systems like anti-virus, everything.
>>55370869
Oh yeah, last time I legit used CDs was when I installed XP on my Atom box. But then Windows 7 was not any slower on it, so I went with 7 after all.
>>55361724
Does this count?
[4:3, Broadwell]
>>55371091
how did you get your hands on one of the motherboards? i've missed out on the x62, now i'm just hoping they actually get round to doing the t62 and i'll be fucking set for years
I will not buy a pc of any kind without a optical drive.
>>55358183
>perfectly good media on discs
This is the fault in your statement.
>>55371091
more info, specs?
>optical media
I'm so glad it's over.
>>55372402
Good for you.
>>55370391
Good for you.
>>55368885
Good for you.
>>55368286
Good for you.
>>55365092
Good for you.
>>55363189
Good for you.
>>55361649
Good for you.
>>55358080
fuck dude you just get a usb optical drive for like $25
>>55359807
Good for you.
>>55358649
Good for you.
>>55358241
Good for you.
>>55358113
Good for you.
>>55358113
Good, for you.
>>55358143
>le ebin cloud maymay
Enjoy when your Internet goes down
>>55358080
You can just get a USB optical drive. As a tradeoff, your computer now doesn't have a large, rarely used component, and can be smaller, thinner, or have a more useful component in its place.
>>55374684
>>55374658
Good, for you
Good for you
>>55358080
>take up a lot of room
>slow as fuck
>limited storage
>media is bulky
its handy for installing an OS, burning movies for your mom, or burning CDs for an older car stereo but that is about it.
none of my machines have an optical drive anymore, i just keep pic related around for the few times a year where its handy to have.
>>55375131
Enjoy when your cds get scratched and chipped
>>55371091
Go to bed, Louis.
>>55375867
You're a good for you
for you
>>55375929
I'm not a hamfisted retard, can't say thats ever been a problem. Get some fucking fine motor skills dipshit
>>55375992
xD deserves a (You)
>>55371189
>T62
>the possibility of putting a Broadwell/Skylake board in a T60 chassis with that 1600x1200 IPS screen
I can't breath
>>55361724
Was just swearing over this earlier today, i fucking hate widescreen laptops.
I still use them to back up stuff. Over the years I have had multiple HDs fail, usb thumbdrives get corrupted or break in half, but all of my DVDs still work.
>>55358080
What year do you think it is? Do you not know how to download programs? are you not able to pirate your media? A
