>AMD sucks
>nVidia too expensive
>>55342637
>>nVidia too expensive
what is the 1060?
>>55342690
What is 3GB/6GB ?
They don't rob you .5 anymore they take an entire chunk now.
>>55342715
still the best price per performance.
other companies will take 1.5
>>55342690
>>55342715
>>55342751
GPU Posters BTFO
Go back to /v/ you pieces of shit
>>55342690
aren't those supposed to be like $250-$300?
and if it's anything like 1070's launch, they'll be even more than that
>>55342690
It's not out yet.
>>55342690
The 1060 isn't out yet.
Any statements about price are baseless speculation.
>>55342715
>more ram means anything
Meanwhile a meme 3.5gb card is beating AMD's 8GB offering
>>55343131
'no'
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72889-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review.html
>>55343151
>inb4 DX12 cuck games that nobody plays
>>55343151
>stock vs OC
Never change AMDumbs
>480 pushed so far at factory settings it will literally combust if you increase the voltage slightly
>NO YOU CAN'T COMPARE STOCK WITH OC 970 which can easily go 25% in an OC and you literally can't find a reference 970
>>55343228
You don't know shit, do you? 8 pin and a not poo in loo cooler and it won't even be a contest.
5 years from now the world's fastest GPU will be in a fucking ipad figure that one out
>>55343254
>it's just the cooler!
$300 card vs a $250 2 year old card that beats it after OC BRAVO AMD
![RX-480-ABC-58[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XscgHr7.jpg "RX-480-ABC-58[1].jpg")
>>55343191
DX 12 is a real thing, I don't know why you'd try to meme it away.
But the 480 is competnat in DX11 as well. It's always around the level of a 970 or superior.
The RX 480 is a good card. Memers are just gonna have to deal with it.
>>55343228
You're confusing yourself. These benchmarks are all of a stock 480 vs a factory overclocked 970/390/
>>55343307
>This shitty AMD shill
kys
>>55343307
Actually the people who buy it are going to have to deal with it. The 'memers' have good cards they enjoy instead of 'deal with'.
>thread mocking /v/fags turns into genuine /v/ shitflinging
![RX-480-ABC-80[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1zq3v4H.jpg "RX-480-ABC-80[1].jpg")
>>55343323
All of the reviewers are calling it a great card. You're just going to have to deal with it.
>>55343331
He's saying the butthurt nvidiots are gonna have to 'deal with it'.
>>55343346
>deal with it
>$300
>Not getting a 1070 instead
Kek
>>55343344
that's not very funny tho
>>55342690
>$250 for 3GB VRAM
>current year
Yes folks, Nvidiots really are this dumb.
>>55343346
>All of the reviewers are calling it a great card
It's a card with a good performance/price ratio
That does not make it a good product.
The efficiency is on par with a gtx 970, a 2 year old card built on a much bigger node (28nm vs 14nm).
The card has zero OC'ing capabilities and apparently there is also a risk of it frying your motherboard due to pulling more than 75w from the PCIe slot.
>>55343410
It's not $300, it's much less.
And the GTX 1070 starts at $430 and is far overkill for what 90+% of gamers need. I don't have a 1440p or 144hz monitor so there's no point in me getting a 1070.
>>55343422
>VRAM solves everything
Poo in loo
>>55343462
>backorder
>sold out
Kek, no it's $300 anywhere it's available right now.
>>55343451
The OC capabilities will increase with AIB's adding an 8pin power connector.
And it's definitely a great product. I don't know what world you live in but a 970 can run all of the popular games people play at 1080p 60fps at high or max settings. Few gamers are interested in $400-600 graphics cards.
>>55343462
I think you mean $350
https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-Graphics-Cards-RX480M8BFA6/dp/B01H3P9CKI
>>55343451
>It's a card with a good performance/price ratio
>That does not make it a good product.
>Good value isn't what makes a good product
>>55343509
>Good Value
>Sets itself on fire if you attempt to overclock it
>>55343509
don't bother with nvidiots. they're addicted consumerists who don't really know anything about gpus.
>>55343536
>there are people here actually ignoring the fact that the 480 is literally drawing 200w or 260% from the 75w rated PCI express slot.
>there are people actually advocating housefires that are so terribly inefficient they literally lose to 2 year old 28nm cards that Nvidia no longer manufacture
Nvidia only doesnt suck because they pay off devs to optimize games and benchmarks for their shit. In terms of raw power their cards are trash
>>55343598
I think what you're trying to say is that AMD sells overvolted terrible cards with no OC headroom and leave you to make your own drivers.
>rx 480 on amazon
220£
>gtx 970
220£
Welp
>>55343151
>tfw 28nm is 5 years old
>>55343625
>Nvidia sells gimped card with no DirectX12 or Async support just for ppw
>Pays big bux for you not to put DirectX12 in your engine
>Pays you even more big bux to use their goyworks features and not to use over 3.5gb vram
>???
>90% marketshare
>>55343659
>gimped card
>less than 10 games on dx 12
>Even game devs don't give a shit about it unless moneyhatted by AMD
>It's Nvidia's fault AMD sucks at DX 11 performance
Yes buy that $200 housefire and burn your house down playing that one game that runs on DX 12.
>>55343422
RAM doesn't matter tho
>>55343509
It is an inferior product to the competition in pretty much every way.
Except
...it's cheap
If that is your only criteria for calling something a good product you set your standards pretty low
>>55343684
$300-$350*
Nvidia had no goalie but AMD still missed their shot
>>55343493
>The OC capabilities will increase with AIB's adding an 8pin power connector.
Lol, not by much
>>55343684
>house fire
>750 ti regularly hit 140 watts drawn solely from the motherboard
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-20.html
>>55343703
best buy was selling the 8gb for $200 for a couple hours.
>>55343696
>competition
which cards does the 480 compete against, again?
>>55343499
>What are third-party sellers on Amazon
WEW LAD
>>55343712
>literally bringing up cards that Nvidia hasn't manufactured for 3 years to compare with AMD's current offerings
You can't make this shit up.
You want to bring up the $1000 295x 2 and how that gets spanked by a $700 single card twice over in 2016?
>>55343736
It should have competed with Pascal, but it can't
So now it compets with Maxwell, namely the 970, a two year old generation card built on a much larger node.
It's rather pathetic really
>>55343730
>2 hours
I thought the supply was going to be plentiful according to AMD shills that posted here 24/7 saying there wouldn't be retailer jewing.
>5 cards for sale at $200 the rest are all $300 - $400
>>55342690
Unreleased you nincompoop
>>55343696
That's how shit works, son. Thats like saying the company that makes the Japanese robot toilet should control the entire industry. Realistically, the guys massively undercutting the average purchase without a performance loss is going to gain. But then again, marketing and shilling are powerful forces.
>>55343756
>It should have competed with Pascal, but it can't
lolwut. the 480s competitor is the gtx 1060, but it hasn't been released yet. you're really unintelligent.
>>55343782
BUT IT'S COMING NIGGA
>>55343784
It's not really even that cheap. you can get a used 980 for that money and it won't even reach 90c on load or burn your house down if you OC it.
>>55343770
If you aren't a moron it hasn't been hard to find fairly priced. I've seen the 8gb for under $240 consistently, sometimes including a back plate. They did under stock the 4gb however, which I think is the better deal.
Nvidias launch prices are a joke by comparison. I knew their supposed msrp was a straight up gimmick from the get go. Especially after the founders addition price.
>>55343826
>It isn't hard to find
Kekking, it's sold out on newegg and amazon has it for over $300.
That's like saying my dad works at nvidia and you can get a 1070 for $100
>>55343753
>Not realizing that the fact that nobody complained about the 750ti drawing more power, or reporting any housefires from it disproves his argument
People like you are what make this sub so fucking awful.
>>55343812
>used
Apples to oranges my man, no better than comparing reference to a highly customized and over clocked model.
>>55343847
To be fair, I was looking 3-ish hours ago. But you are definitely pushing an agenda. Nvidia prices STILL haven't fucking come down. We're still on day one with this card.
>>55343850
>nobody complained
It didn't draw 200w from the PCI-E, nobody is complaining about the power draw from the PSU. Everyone is spooked that it's literally pulling 200w from a 75w rated slot.
>>55343876
The review was for a 750 ti that literally didn't have a psu input. It solely drew from the mobo.
>>55343872
>still haven't come down
You think AMD's are going to come down anytime soon?
>It's ok if AMD does it.
>>55343888
Yes, but it still didn't draw 200w at the PCI-E slot like the 480
>>55343898
Except it's not at all comparable.
Multiple stores reported getting less than 20 1070s and 1080s combined. Many stores have had stocks in excess of 500 for the AMD 480. Just because it still sold out doesn't change the fact.
Might explain all the FUD from team green boys, in fact.
>>55343659
>muh paying devs off
And? As a consumer, why should I buy a card without dev support? Why can't AMD have devs optimize for their cards?
>>55343937
The 480 was drawing 80w at the slot, the 750 ti was drawing 140w at the slot. Stop shilling and read for a goddamn second.
>>55343876
>>55343937
so many people are saying retarded shit at this point that i honestly can't even tell if you're trolling or not
>>55343888
>62 watts average
>1 (one) 135 watt spike
vs
>Drawing 100w constant
>with 200w being drawn with attempted overclock
Please stop posting anytime
>>55343795
>480s competitor is the gtx 1060
Only because of AMD's incompetence
>>55344003
>80 steady watts within tolerance is worse than near constant 140 watt spikes that can feed harmonics back into the mobo
Lol k.
>>55344031
Which was the 960's competitor?
>>55343462
Ok flavor, Rma flavor and coil whine flavor
Which?
>>55344053
>64 watts average
Why are you comparing apples with oranges?
>2 entry level wojaks
>2 meme arrows
>75 replies and counting
>>55342637
>nVidia too expensive
yup, nvidia shit here is super expensive even the old cards.
AMD to go.
>>55344062
the full polaris die would have been a 490, if it actualy was able to compete with the 1070/180
>get 970
>waiting for EVGA to step me up to a 1070
The wait is killing me but it'll be worth it I know.
Also why don't we make some kind of GPU general?
>>55344103
If one spikes hard and other draws mild over watts, which would you choose? Hint, hard spikes kill boards.
Give it up AMD shills
>>55343630
You get what you pay for.
>>55344789
Spiking is normal, averaging over the rating is a very, very bad thing because it's already over the limit. When it spikes it will literally fry your board.
>>55343474
It doesn't always, but newer games now use more than 3gb of vRAM, and a good bit use more than 3.5gb at 1080p.
>>55344862
In theory, sudden changes in draw are much more damaging than a steady draw that is slightly over spec. In reality, it's pretty unlikely that either scenario will kill a motherboard at these levels.
Nvidia shills found one flaw in an otherwise very good RX480 and they are just FUD'ing it to death. Until we have actual evidence of damaged motherboards then this is a non-story. The fact that AIBs can and will rectify this with custom PCBs and additional power adapters makes it even more useless to talk about.
>B-but AMD promised this and that
Show me where they promised anything other that "premium VR" at the pricepoints mentioned. They delivered.
>But this 2 year old GPU is better
It's also deprecated and was $330 at launch. Just the other day 970s were still going for $330 on Newegg. They probably still are. If the 1060 shows up and provides real competition at $200 then people will have something to debate. Until then, this card is a huge winner for people that only have $200-$240 to spend on a card.
>>55345011
>nvidia shills
Every major review site is citing this as a problem
>>55343323
>being this triggered
>>55343573
That's not the cards fault though. PCIe can be set to put out that much wattage, however, the safe zone is 75w, and most shitty connections from motherboards, or GPUs can on give/receive 75w. It's the motherboards fault for delivering wattage that it can't handle, not the GPU that can handle the wattage.
In my country the non-reference 480 price will be the same as a non-reference GTX 980-$15
A non-reference 970 is already cheaper than the Reference RX 480.
>>55343876
> sub
back_to_reddit.tiff
>>55345145
>>55345183
Also, the XFX 390X is the same price as the 8GB Reference 480... Which one should I choose
>>55345111
>can be set to put out that much wattage
>the safe zone is 75w
It pulled up to 200w, the PCI-E standard is there for a reason. If you exceed the specification there will be consequences. I can't wait for AMDumbs to come crying when their $50 mobos start blowing up along with all their components.
>>55345205
390x is way faster, should be no brainer
>>55345222
Yeah I know but I heard bad things about XFX 390 series, like its overheats a bit.
I will wait for the 1060 first, lets see how Nvidia Matches up
>>55345209
It is nit the GPU's responsibility to regulate the amount of power it receives. Just because the card has superior connections that can handle higher amounts of wattage does not make the GPU at fault. It is the motherboards responsibility to regulate power delivery through the PCIe.
>it's okay when nvidia's 750ti receives more wattage than the "safe zone"
>it's not okay when AMD does it.
>>55345031
>Every major review site is citing this as a problem
Every major review site is stating that Polaris 10 is a pretty good GPU for the money and will be a big hit once AIB cards hit the shelves.
https://uk.hardware.info/product/353869/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8gb
>£219.99
>for a ref oven with no OC capability
>meanwhile I can get non ref 970 for £199.99
I kid you not as rule of thumb I go for AMD product if it's at least 20% cheaper while providing same performance. Otherwise I can't justify dealing with shit like AMD drivers or high temps. 480 is literally DOA in Europe.
>>55345429
Does Nvidia have like secret sweatshops in Europe cranking out their cards for cheap? I don't understand how AMD cards are always pricier in Europe. They've been the "bargain" brand in the US for a while now.
>>55345502
It's just EU taking 6 months before dropping prices, not sure why. It wasn't a case with 7xx/2xx series.
>>55343486
>>soldout
More RX480 out in peoples computers than they are 1080/1070 lol
>>55343254
~1.3v core on stock.
That shit will be shitting out electrons into the atmosphere if it goes any higher.
>>55343750
>What are third-party sellers on Amazon
Apparently the only ones to have this card in stock.
>Wnt
Or how to remind you that the season is nearly over. I'll let go a couple of shitters I suppose to make way for Sudacas and associated.
>>55345145
>Buying outdated hardware
kek
>>55343474
R6: Siege uses more than 3gb at high settings on 1080p. And R6 Siege doesn't have as large of maps as other games that are coming out in 2016.
>>55342690
What's the price? Oh right, it's literally almost a year away from release so you have no fucking clue
>>55342715
$199 (3GB) and $240 (6GB)
Founders Edition $250 (3GB) and $320 (6GB)
