How do we fix this?
They haven't come out with a good product since the Athlon 64 came out. They keep on spewing shit products year after year yet fanboys eat their shit up but in reality they all use Intel+NVIDIA because it is faster and more efficient in the long run.
>>55333435
I'm not a AMD fanboi but I use AMD for all my other builds except gayming, just because it's cheaper.
Exactly what /g/ needed. Another AMD thread.
You can't. The moment intel get their shit together with core, it was over for high end AMD. I still remember the butthurt and disbelief of amdfags when first core benchmarks were released.
AMD fought the Jew bravely, and even though they should have won out, Intel and Nvidia had to pull their dirty tricks
RIP you glorious bastard
>>55333474
AMD fanboy here since the Socket 7 days. The K6/K6-2 era.
I'm done with AMD. I will get an intel PC on my next build. Probably an nvidia video card if I do decide to game since I don't play vidya anymore.
>>55333474
Wish there was an archive of /g/ back then.
Can you imagine the tears of the buttblasted shills?
>>55333519
>Uses AMD for CPU only
>Stuck with them after the massive disappointment that was Bulldozer
>But now decides "fuck AMD" before Zen is even revealed
dude what
>>55333466
Seriously the first 5 threads on the page are amd threads
When are the paid shills going to leave
We don't even care
>>55333435
It can't be fixed. The leadership is incompetent and so is the rest of the company. They will be bought by Intel soon enough.
>>55333435
>>55333605
You really think Zen is going to be any different than the 480 disaster? AMD is now just a budget company selling cheap imitations of old tech.
>just released the best card for performance/dollar in history
trolls don't even try on this board anymore
>>55333748
This
>>55333748
>just released the best card for performance/dollar in history
It's useless if it can barely run any games.
It's like saying Samsung released a new phone using the new "architecture" but it's performance and features is between the Apple 6s and Apple 6.
It's good if you are like Apple who has top tier marketing and fanboys but with AMD's marketing? No way they can compete.
AMD is finished in 2 years cap this.
>>55333435
>Faster and more efficient
>long run
Pick one
>>55333748
>oh I want to upgrade my 2 year old video card
>buy a brand new 480X
>performance lower than older card
AMD shill just give up already
>>55333435
How do we fix your mum for shitting out human waste like you?
>>55333748
When considering launch price yes, it is the best performing per dollar. But you can get a GTX 970 which is better in some games for the same price as an RX 480.
>>55333748
How is a $350 card the best performance/dollar? The 480 is overpriced as fuck
>>55334636
Nice meme
>>55334636
Price will drop eventually
>>55333435
"We"?
You on AMD's board? This is your meeting place? This shithole? No wonder your cards are the designated shitting street of the GPU market right now. It's like those brochures for travel in India. Once there, you realize all the shit in the streets and stink is not in the brochures.
This GPU pairs well with the Freedom phone.
India, treating the technology industry like it was one of their streets.
>>55334671
Oh really? The 1080 has been out for a month and it's still sold out everywhere and the best price you can get on ebay is $200 more.
The 480 as a budget card is truly awful if it's not priced at $200. Instead it's $350 and one of the worst price-performance cards you can buy.
>>55334803
>citation needed
>>55333435
thought AMD was done being known as budget hardware and trying to compete with Intel/nvidia.
Really hope zen turns out to be good. if not guess I'll switch over to intel.
still on that fx8320 and it's doing alright.
>>55334815
There is no citation. The board is literally being shilled.
>>55333722
>480 disaster
What is this meme?
The 480 is performing EXACTLY as it was expected.
>>55334636
That's bullshit though because it's priced at 199 and 230 for the 4/8GB variants. Any pleb can check Newegg or Amazon. Anyone that has some odd pricing is likely in some shit hole outside of the USA (yuropoor or somalia). Hopefully you aren't this retarded. Either way your either being a fanboy or a shill both of which are subhuman.
Please do everyone a favor and kill yourself.
Oh god another 970 buyers remorse thread.
>>55333435
>They haven't come out with a good product since the Athlon 64 came out
Can you guess why?
>back stab their biggest ally in the cpu market
>suddenly have to make their own chipsets
>their cpus fall behind Intel supremely
You reap what you sow, AMDrones. You reap what you sow.
>can't even make a proper usb controller so they've delayed Zen while they find a subcontractor to fix their shit chipsets
L
M
A
OI
>>55335047
lol no
>>55333435
Weird, the best value per cost graphics card in 5-7 years just came out...called the RX480. You should look it up. Looks like a solid product for $199
>>55335047
>The 480 is performing EXACTLY as it was expected.
Tell that to the guys over at /r/amd
Even the biggest AMD fans are incredibly disappointed.
>>55335753
Disappointed with dx11 benchmarks? Because they don't understand it was designed for vulkan and dx12?
>>55335047
This 480 meme needs to end, its been a while since we saw a true mid range card for $200. Prices will level out soon after launch.
Nvidia have been very clever in pushing consumers towards higher priced cards. Their mid range cards (760, 960) have been below par for years so consumers are going for 970s which would have been considered high end prices a few years ago. AMD is forcing their hand with the 480, this is where price/performance should be.
>>55333748
>>55335047
>amd shills on damage control
>>55335626
>RX 480
It was supposed to be the Nvidia killer, being on par with 980TI on DX12, and infinitely better than the 1070. And now it's 'value per cost' champion.
>>55335753
I don't understand why anyone would be disappointed with the performance. It was never supposed to be a flagship card at $200. Are people this dumb?
No doubt we will see higher end polaris cards (at higher prices) in the coming months.
>>55335888
I think the issue is the European pricing which is gouging people for $350 USD, comparable to other cards already out. In US the price is unmatched at $199, but eurokids are being screwed
>>55335901
this
>>55335888
The welfare queens on /g/ all claimed the 480 would blow pascal out of the water and would be an equal match to the much more expensive 1070.
So far none of this is happening. Hell an 8gb card can't even beat the 3.5 meme at 90% of the games.
>>55333435
>They haven't come out with a good product since the Athlon 64
GCN 1 was good, fuck off.
>it is faster and more efficient in the long run.
Yeah, these Kepler cards from Nvidia really did show value after Maxwell came out. Especially that 760 with its great efficiency :^)
>>55333722
>>55335466
>>55335753
The 480 was advertised as a "VR ready" card, and the 290 is considered the minimum for it. That minimum is matched, and in most cases, even surpassed. Everything else was made up by sensationalist AMD fanboys.
>>55334612
Wait for aftermarket models. Right now the 480 is cucked by its power target, locked voltage and has the shitty stock cooler.
Not that a 970 couldn't OC, though :^)
>>55334636
>>55334803
>>55335008
>>55335439
Here's your (You).
>>55335901
There was a 390 on sale for a couple of days in my parts.
I checked before the 480 benches dropped, still had stock.
Checked 6 hours ago. All gone.
480 is literally a meme in EUrope.
>>55335901
>>55335945
Prices are not too bad in UK. I have seen 4gb version at £175 and 8gb at £220.
>>55335901
yup, 480 costs exactly the same as 390x
>>>/gcg/
>>55335888
It's not even $200, it's $350
>>55335901
Even in US it's now $350
Lots of graphics card discussions ITT, maybe move out to /gcg/ where it belongs lads.
>>55334984
>fx8320
I have this as well and I got overheating issues, had to turn down the voltage. You ever had any problems with the chip? It goes up to 70 with me under heavy stress and throttles causing FPS lag.
And no, I don't use a stock cooler.
>>55333690
Not gonna happen, even Intel needs a competition, better if its a shitty one, but AMD isn't that bad.. well i don't really know for sure but they seems cheap, not outstandingly better but cheap, a company with cheap products never stops selling...
>>55336104
what is your OC
>>55333435
see
>>55333454
AMD fanboys are almost non-existent. nVidia on the other hand...
>>55336116
They are rumored to be selling their GPU unit to Intel, while keeping their CPU production
>>55336163
>AMD almost went bankrupt buying out ATi
>now huge % of their income
>Selling to n1 competitor
I think not.
>>55336163
let me guess, you started this rumor
>>55336177
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>>55336163
Seriously doubt it.
AMDs APU lineup is actually quite strong and promising.
AMD has invested in hUMA and many custom SoC design builds that NEED Radeon CGN technology.
If anything, AMD would want to sell to Samsung because Samsung helped GlobalFoundries get 14nm FinFET going and GF use to be owned by AMD... closer ties.
>>55336055
>>55336064
Except its not, listed on newegg for $199 for 4gb and $229 for 8gb.
>>55333502
No nvidia produced some new gpu's AMD released a pack of lies and you lot fucking fell for it.
How the 480 went from the 980ti killer to a shitty budget card in less than 24 hours.
>>55335879
DELET THIS
>>55336248
They advertised it as entry level VR, and good DX12 & Vulkan performance in games optimized for those.
Guess what it does?
>>55336236
Yea, not going to happen even if two CEOs kill each other.
>>55336248
> 980ti killer
In your dreams? Even AMD fans wasn't that deluded. 980 killer - maybe, but not 980Ti.
>>55336248
it was advertised to be as good as 980 in DX12, guess if it's better than 980 in most DX12 titles?
>>55336247
I'd like to see you try to buy it for those prices. We'll be here waiting.
>>55336292
What? it was on here and yes /v/ . You lot were going mad about it. I love all this denial now.
>>55336127
Haven't OC'd, so it's at stock temps. Had to bring it lower due to overheating.
>>55336296
checkmate!
https://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?submit=ChangeItem
Only 2 left so be quick.
Just be patient it only launched yesterday.
>>55336307
there is something wrong with your heatsink or CPU.
most reasonable assumption is lack/too much heat spread.
>>55336323
Anon I think you might be an idiot, you just linked to a shopping cart
>>55336342
he now has 10 cards
>>55336238
>AMDs APU lineup is actually quite strong and promising.
Their APU lineup is non existent if you're talking about Zen.
Even their high end CPU has been delayed because, yet again, their chipsets are garbage.
At least they are trying to fix them (they got subcontractors to fix them more like) before they drop their shit tier CPUs on the market.
And people wonder why AMD CPUs are a meme.
>>55336104
>>55336307
You being retarded with your cooling solution isn't AMD's fault.
>>55336365
>their chipsets are garbage.
Their FM2 chipsets are fine, it's just the CPUs on it which are lacking.
>before they drop their shit tier CPUs on the market
Here's your (You) for these 50 rupees.
>>55336342
He's an AMDirtpoor, you think intelligent people would be that poor?
>>55336342
>>55336393
I fucked up in all the excitement.
Just be patient they will in stock for $199 soon.
>>55336392
I'm talking about their AM4 socket chipset which has been noted by motherboard manufacturers to suffer from significant throughput loses and lanes eating into each others bandwidth.
Keep up with the scuttlebutt, pleb.
>>55336332
I'll look into it, thank you. Any aftermarket coolers you'd recommend?
>>55336470
any of them, 212 is cheap and slightly better than stock.
if you want to OC then Noctua or thermalright are probably the best.
>>55336410
The problems you're referring to are related to USB 3.1 and Intel had some issues with chipsets in the past as well, but it's okay if they do it. :^)
>>55336410
But that's also native whereas intel doesn't have native support until Katy Lake. So amd needs some signal boosters for native usb 3.1 and intel needs a chipset for it. Seems pretty square.
>>55335879
>>55335863
It was never fucking advertised beyond "VR ready", everything else is made-up by /Leddit/-Tier AMD fanfags.
>>55336718
They literally used the words "Premium VR" not just VR ready.
This implied that it was far beyond the VR minimum of a 970, but it turns out it's just equal to a 970.
>>55333435
>How do we fix this?
We don't, let AMEMED die
>>55333435
>Phenom II
>FX 8350
>HD 5000 Series
>HD 7000 Series
>290X
>295X2
>Fury R9 300 Series
>GPUOpen
>Mantle, forcing Khronos Group and Microshit to make half decent API's
>The best performance per dollar GPU on the market today and possibly ever with its release MSRP. The R(e)X 480.
We don't fix anything. AMD are fixing themselves.
>>55336781
>Premium VR
>implied that it was far beyond the VR minimum
There is absolutely no proof on what "Premium VR" meant. The 480 was advertised as a card "for VR", nothing more. Everything else is speculation and if you honestly expected much more, then I'm genuinely sorry for you.
>>55336853
>FX 8350
Piledriver wasn't bad, but came a year too late and still didn't consistently match K10 IPC, especially not with anything FPU-related.
That, and still using the dated AM3+ platform.
>290X
Hawaii literally re-enacted the housefire meme on AMD - although the 290 and 390 were good cards.
>Fury
The Fury X was a disappointment, the 360 and 370 a respective downgrade from their previous counterparts.
>>55336924
It's a shame they didn't update the fx series further, but it was a smart move on their part. It would have required new chipsets to fully utilize steamroller, and there was no way they were going to convince people to buy a new mobo /cpu combo at the target demographic they currently have. Though you'd probably see a lot more people having moved on from their phenoms if there would have been an fx x400 series.
I was getting a motherboard updated last night to get it x5600 ready, and ran a cpuz bench with the installed W3520. The a10-7850 reference they had wasnt that impressive for single threading given only a 13% score increase with a 50% higher clock on a vastly newer chip. But what stood out was the fact it matched the Nehalem xeon in multithreading with half the threads. So all in all, not entirely terrible. Would have been interesting to see steamroller hit the fx lineup and get a full dedicated cpu treatment.
>>55336248
AMD NEVER lied about the performance, the card does everything AMD said it would. It was you retards claiming it to be 980ti / Fury performance.
>>55333435
>nvidia
>long run
Kek enjoy your gimped gpu.
>>55336407
>powercoror
HAHAHAHA
ching chong wing wong graphics card
>>55336248
Nah, that was the hype train. And them fucking up the power. So what it wasn't where you wanted it to be, slap an 8 pin on there for fucks sake.
I'm betting sapphire and the likes will come out with monster custom boards with much better power options and cooling. I could see a 980 killer at $290.
>>55336301
>/v/
Well there your problem right there. Reddit did the same shit.
>>55338946
>AMD NEVER lied about the performance
Visit their IG site and look at all AMD's failed premise.
Just give up already. I know you are earning for every shill but deep inside we all know you use an NVIDIA+Intel combo.
You know, I did an AMD processor build years ago and that computer never quite worked right.
Haven't had a problem with a plethora of Intel machines since.
Why would you even risk AMD to save a few bucks when Intel is objectively superior?
I buy AMD because Intel supports Feminist Frequency.
>>55333435
>They keep on spewing shit products year after year yet fanboys eat their shit up
Protip: if these things bug you, it just means you are the fanboy here. Just stop caring, anon.
>>55334803
Because the 480 had 25 times more stock than the 1080 at launch? It's a small chip, the yields are high, just wait a bit for the stocks to replenish. Also:
>buying reference
>ever
>>55333435
In all honesty, we will know what the fucking deal is with the gpu in a month, it seems like it is fantastic, but power starved and draws power from the wrong places on stock pcb, once aibs get their hands on it, we will see an 8+6 pin version most likely and we will get a good idea for what the chip really is. it seems like it will fall above a 980 stock and just behind a 980ti when its not power starved, probable between a 970 and 980 oc
currently it doesn't offer enough extra performance to warrant an upgrade from a 280x and to oc it i wouldn't want to risk my motherboard.
cpu wise, that is a bit harder, it seems amd made all the right moves for zen, but its a big up in the air deal.
honestly not holding out to much hope here, but yea, they are possibly good. amd only really looks worse off right now because they released the mainstream first instead of the high end.
Why cant AMD into efficiency?
Theyre running on 14 fucking nm but are years behind Nvidia in ppw. Im betting right now the 1060 will have half the power consumption for RX 480 performance
>inb4 muh housefire memes
Hello 2010
>>55336018
>mfw the 390x costs €365 in my shitty first world country
>that is over $400
480 is still a good offer
>>55336781
>This implied that it was far beyond the VR minimum of a 970, but it turns out it's just equal to a 970.
They never implied anything of the sort, if you actually read any statements/interviews you would know that they've been banging their drums about lowering the entry price for VR. You'd have to be retarded to think that a product aimed at reducing cost would be much faster than the minimum requirement.
The performance is exactly where they said it would be, the actual issues are that the card is inefficient and that the reference model is apparently such a crap design that it draws too much power from the PCI-E slot.
>>55333435
Keep producing shit and keep selling to poor people with their heads so far up their asses that don't understand a low end Intel/Nvdia build will still run circles around whatever Pajeet has shat out this month.
>>55340331
HI anon
It was $309 on newegg but they are sold out now
>>55339039
>I'm betting sapphire and the likes will come out with monster custom boards with much better power options and cooling.
looking at there current one for the 480 they are using the old ones,why make a new cooler design that can already cool some of the hottest chips that were ever made effectively?
>>55342213
That's okay, I'm going to buy an Sapphire AIB RX 480
>>55335047
Wasn't it expected to destroy Titan X?
>>55342508
kek no. It is an entry level vr card. It is supposed to bring basic vr to the masses at an inexpensive price
>>55342546
I was told it was gonna destroy Titan X.
>>55342596
by the hype train I presume?
>>55342629
Yea of course, what else.
>>55342660
well theres your problem
>>55333722
Jim Keller is designing it, and if you know anything about the tech industry, that's all I have to say.
>>55343239
Jim Keller was head of AMD's CPU division, he wasn't designing anything himself. Zen's lead architect is Suzanne Plummer. The very name Zen is a play on her name.
>>55333748
Lol, you hit a nerve in the Nvidia fanboys.
>>55333748
Yup. The astroturfing, paid or not, is insane.
>>55343272
>your CPU is desiged by a woman
>no drivers
Alright, AMD is dead
>>55335879
No one with two brain cells to run together thought that. Only overhyped teenage fanboys and false flaggers.
That said, with proper cooling and power delivery I wouldn't be surprised to see it nip at or outright compete with the 980. This reference design is utter dog shit.
>>55343404
I honestly thought it was going to compete with the 980 at launch, I am only slightly disappointing.
>>55333435
By ignoring the shills and ignorant doomsayers:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-20.html
>>55343404
Its adequate for what it is.
Its not thermally throttling with the fan at 100%.
>>55343423
If the custom boards are priced right, and there's some OC headroom, it might still end up a beast of a budget card. It's not bad as is, however. Pretty damn decent, but I never buy reference anyway.
Curious to see where the 1060 will end up. I see it being overpeiced for quite a while.
A woman designed the early ARM chips.
They were pretty good for the time.
>>55343473
It's probably going to be overpriced like you said, but there are also rumors that Nvidia is having real problems with their production line. They're probably not going to be able to make enough for everybody.
>No cards in stock
There are plenty
>>55343616
who are you talking to, anon?
>>55343663
your mother. he has your mother with him and shes asking about the stock of the 480. what a good lad
>>55343724
oh, that's good. My mom has wanted to get into PC gaming and this is the best value for the money. I'm glad to see her taking initiative.
>>55333748
It's like saying that AMD has 10% gain in 4K gaming so instead of playing in 30 fps you play in 33 - price/performance charts are a fallacy since ~2010 cuz mid tier cards mean something else. In 00s mid tier meant run all games sacrifice details, nowadays it means don't touch AAA games cuz ur card may explode.
>>55336248
This was all I heard for the last month. Every time I've mentioned 480 being between 970/980 I've been called Nvidia shill. Now AMD neets eat their words and pretend the "1600 OC 1070 gtx performance" threads were false flags.
>>55333748
>b-but muh poverty card!
is that all amd is? cheap cards for poor people? lol
poor people need to leave this board
>>55334612
>But you can get a GTX 970 which is better in some games for the same price as an RX 480.
No you can't.
t. Someone looking for another 970 cheap to sli
>>55343616
>AMD says it is $200
>Being sold for $250, some up to $500 outside the US
So which company is the real jew now?
AMDIDIOT ALL GOT TOLD
>>55349005
What?
These are the 8gb models
Which are priced at 239
Clearly one is on for that price point and the other two only 10 more
>>55343616
>IN STORE ONLY
>>55349005
It's actually selling for $350 now because of the limited supply.
Totally retarded to buy a budget card for $350, when you can get a 970 or 390 for $250
>>55349388
>These are the 8gb models
Does it matter? a 3.5gb card is faster and cheaper than an 8gb AMD.
>>55349005
The 8GB model is $240. This shit ain't rocket science.
>>55349476
>does it matter?
Yes it does
And no it isn't faster and cheaper fuck off shill yuropoor
>>55349557
The 970 has the same performance as a 480 and sells for $100 less. It's pretty damn bad for the 480 if they can't even beat a 2 year old card.
>>55349557
>spending $100 more on a shit tier 480x
Just give up already. We all know you don't even use AMD.
>>55349605
>sells for $100 less
what. Also the card beats a 970. The 970 has to be OC'd to compete. Once 480s that can actually OC are released, you'll be able to get it above 980 performance.
>>55349649
>Once 480s that can actually OC are released
Hoping for something that AMD promised and won't even deliver again.
Just give up already. We all know you don't even use AMD.
>AMD has already sold more 480s than 1000 series cards from Nvidia
Top kek
>>55349718
>more people can afford a $200 card than a $400-$700+ card
Shocking
>>55349718
>>AMD has already sold more 480s than 1000 series cards from Nvidia
source: AMD Website
>>55333748
Yeah Idk what OP is on. The 480/470 and 460 are probably going to be THE card in the majority of budget to mid range builds. It's also going to be in the PS5 or whatever it's called and it'll actually make prebuilts respectable. The 480 is NOT for those faggots who willingly spend a 300$ premium on a graphics card on top of the 200$ premium for their gimmicky Gsync monitor to go with it.
>>55349798
and yet that hasn't sunk into either side yet.
I don't know if that's funny or sad.
well, i want more than 2 measly cores for less than $100 so i picked the fx6300 with 6 cores. yea its old, but i get good frame rates and speed so i dont see anything wrong with amd processors, just spend $20 on a cooler and never have to worry about it again
>>55349605
Link me to a 970 that's being sold for $150, you lying fuckface.
>>55345896
if 80% of users buy cards under $300 wouldnt it make sense to make cards under $300?? steam claimed 95% but im not so sure about that
>>55349005
rx480 4gb, $199 what are you talking about kid?
>>55349636
$150? wtf do u want, a fucking gtx750?? wtf?
>>55349798
>>55349861
They're just mad cuz they're overpaying for jewVidia
>>55349905
I still have a Phenom II X3 720.
Is there an FX CPU than can still run on my AM3+ for like $40? I just want a bit of an upgrade before Zen comes out since I'm editing photos and my processor is starting to show its age.
>>55343272
>>55349925
You do realize the 480 is sold out everywhere and can only be bought for $350 now
>>55350415
>female
RIP AMD
>>55333435
i use to be an AMD fanboy, but they hurt my bitch feelings and i switched to Sintel, im still hoping they crawl back out of thier Hole thats an ass and make gaming great again
3D FinFET...welcome to the party AMD.
>>55333605
AMD has had a long string of disappointing products released in the last 10 years:
>phenom 1
>phenom 2
>bulldozer
>piledriver
>kaveri
>hawaiifire
>full tonga taking 2 years to reach the market
>fiji and the overclockers dream BS
>gcn 1.4
the best to hope for from zen is that it provides a decent sidegrade for people who have held onto 2500/2600k cpus or bought them second hand. 8 cores with SMT and ivy-haslel performance would be a decent upgrade for those ~1 million potential customers. but even if that manage that, they're still 5 years behind intel on design and manufacturing.
Yeah but Zen is like Haswell..3D FinFET "decent" single threaded performance. AMD is a few years late to the party.
>>55350415
she's got fangs
Hope restored
