Now that the RX 480 is the worst GPU ever made
Can we all agree that the 1060 is the new king of budget cards
Good perfomance and drivers for a good price
10 cents have been deposited into your account.
We'll see when the 1060 comes out, but it should be ridiculously easy for Nvidia to beat it, because the 480 is such a disaster
It's actually kinda bad because it means nvidia will have no competition
>>55326888
What are you talking about? The Rx 480 shits on the gtx 970. Nvidia will have to make the 1060 with at least 8GB of vRAM, the performance of the 970, and cheaper than the 8GB Rx 480 ($239).
Protip: they won't.
>>55326888
>1060 comes out January 2017
>price is $350
>has only 3 gigs of Vram
hahahahahh
>>55326430
> 1060 not even being *announced* until next week, actual launch will be months later depending on degree of paper-ness
> will be a 192b 3/6 GB card
> still almost guaranteed to cost >$250 due to 1070 essentially starting at $400 and crawling up to $500 territory
> will still be barely updated Maxwell architecture that sucks balls in DX12
All that said, it could still be a decent value if they don't repeat AMD's mistake and give it a cripplingly low 32 ROPs.
>plays all my games on highest setting @ 40 FPS
thanks amd.
i also started bleeding trying to open the fucking box because the manufacturer decided to glue the damn thing shut.
>>55326430
Literally the worst ever, lmao, AMD is pathetic.
> all these gamer debates on /g/
I'm around cryptocoin miners. They talk about GPUs and their mining rigs all the time (20-40 radeons). I don't even remeber the last time they mentioned nVidia. We all have ROI btw.
>>55326888
>It's actually kinda bad
this is really fucking bad
the only thing amd has a bunch of really poor, retarded fanboys
the desktop market will be a total monopoly
just in time for it to stop existing I guess
>>55326430
Nvidiot shills are going into overdrive with damage control and are too stupid to realize that 480 is the reason why 970 and 980 are going on fire sales.
They are also too stupid to realize that 960 was a bloody joke since its launch for $199-249 crowd (a.k.a majority of PC gamers). ROFL 7950/7950-670/680 performance in 2015.
The 480 was a game changer in that price range. They finally at 970-tier performance which means that PC game developers can push the envelope further without having to resort to 660-tier parts as the baseline.
>>55327544
You're right, /g/ is for weebs and pedophiles to discuss which linux distro is best to keep the NSA out of their CP collection, 100% of threads have to be about that or else /v/ is invading.
>>55326888
>3GB VRAM
>$250
The 1060 is going to be just as big a piece of shit as the 960 was. We already know its performance too, given it has exactly half the CUDA cores of a 1080, plus a gimped memory bus and slower memory. It'll do well to even match the 480.
>>55327578
You're telling me, there a shill looking for extra shekels on leddit, hovering around his own thread about the big bad power draw average from the pcie lsot and answering everyone to the contrary. Maximum damage control by inflating non-issues
AMD is better for mining Trumpcoin
>>55327624
>/v/ is ruining a site whose entire demographic is young males
You're in the wrong place if you are going to sit there and bitch about things young males are overwhelmingly interested in.
There's a REALLY simple solution to your problems. It's called ignoring what you don't like.
>>55326430
>price/frames best on the market
>performs as good as gtx 970 on dx11 and much better on dx12
here, have you're (You). (You)'ve almost deserved it.
>Can we all agree that the 1060 is the new king of budget cards
>Good perfomance and drivers for a good price
What do we know for sure about its performance, drivers, or price?
And here i am just w8ing for my comfy 50watt 1050ti
>>55327717
I didn't make any threads, I just like provoking people like you. I already know you can't just not respond like the emotionally stunted man child you are.
>>55327544
Is it the same butthurt autist posting these? Your tears are delicious
![look[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/7DIgFJV.png "look[1].png")
Hey N/v/idiots. Image related.
>>55327001
The 970 is actually cheaper than the 480 sadly at the same performance. Nvidia doesn't even need to come out with a new card if they don't want to because the 970 already beats the 480.
>>55327834
facebook tier
>>55327827
AND HE KEEPS RESPONDING, THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>55327544
Sorry we're interrupting your fapping to chinese cartoons
>>55327578
Uhh the 970 was already $250 for weeks before the 480 came out
>>55327897
Just keep posting memes, it's much more productive than video games
>>55327897
Please, keep giving me (you)'s, I'm begging you. I need to keep your attention on things your don't like so that you never learn to just avoid what you don't like and your life is shittier because you take this place so seriously.
>>55327885
Only if you are were going into used market. New 970s were still going around ~$299 USD for majority of etailers until impending launch of 480 and 470.
I'm choosing an AMD at random to ask this question. Why is it such a big deal that the card draws more wattage than allowed by PCIe spec? Isn't the power from the bus regulated by the motherboard? If a card is drawing more power than allowed by spec, isn't it because the engineer who designed the motherboard made it so that the motherboard can supply it?
I'm not planning on buying a reference card, I've never bought a reference card because I always thought it was stupid to do so.
>>55327942
It doesn't matter at all.
380 did it, 960 did it, 1060 will probably do it.
>>55326430
based on what benchmarks?
>>55327942
All electronics are designed with tolerances, but n/v/idiots like to act as if the spec is the maximum extent a board can go to before going poof. They're just butthurt that people actually expected the RX 480 to perform about as well as it did and are trying to do damage control.
>>55327933
Nope, they've been $250 brand new for weeks, actually under $250 now
>>55327964
Literally none of those cards did it.
The 480 is the only card to go beyond the motherboard power spec and it's quite frankly dangerous.
>>55328026
>it's quite frankly dangerous.
Elaborate
>>55327971
It's not that you're too serious for this website, it's that you hate the interests of the primary demographic of this website. It's like complaining about anime reaction pics.
>>55327995
Poor-fag Nvidiots are butt devastated that their shitty overpriced 960s got pwned hard in its price range.
They are regretting that didn't wait until 970 drop prices until their current levels due to 480.
>>55327942
Cheap motherboard plus cheap card = housefire
>>55328004
Funny how the cheapest one at Newegg is still $265 and I think that's a reference design with a single fan.
>>55328004
>impending launch of 480 a.k.a a few weeks before its official launch
>Nvidia nods etailers to drop prices on 970 in response
>being this stupid
>Poorfag Nvidiot detected
>>55328050
It could destroy your motherboard
>>55327942
>>55327995
It's not a problem as long as nothing more is connected along the path. And it usually is.
RX480 is a cheap card. You can assume it will be paired with cheap motherboard. It will be a disaster.
>>55328004
Bullshit
Also:
8>3.5
>>55327582
>>55327866
Nice projections you fucking /v/ cancer.
/g/ is for tech literate people to discuss technology at a fundamental level. People either have a job in STEM or are working towards one, they are open-minded and curious and like to mess around with stuff just as the old MIT hackers.
/v/ and gaymer reddit on the other hand (you) are braindead tech illiterate consumers which definitely do not belong here. Your board is shit but you do not have to make ours too
>>55328077
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=186&sort=a8&page=1
One of them is one of the highest clocked 970s available for only $258, pretty amazing desu
>>55328050
The guy thinks his motherboard is going to burst into flames rather than just just letting out some smoke and then powering down.
>>55328026
>Literally none of those cards did it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html
>>55328026
REMEMBER ALL THE 960 HOUSEFIRES, GUISE?
ITS REALLY A PROBLEM!!!!
If its 1280 cuda cores 1060 will be a waste. Nvidia could have hit a home run with a 230ish mm2 chip with 1500+ cores but they always gotta jew fast.
>>55328109
The 970 actually dropped in response to the 1080 and 1070 release.
>>55328111
When you aggressively overclock and overvolt GPUs you always run into that risk.
Performance GPUs have been pushing the envelope for years.
Nvidiots don't realize that their shitty "GPU burning my motherboard" argument is also applicable to reference 1080s also run very close to limits of PCIe and a single 6-pin connector when loaded.
>>55328131
>/g/ is for tech literate people to discuss technology at a fundamental level.
>>55328131
I love the delusions of the people who get so buttblasted that people here play video games. /g/ was never for the MIT types. You are not that important. Stop deluding yourselves. Nobody is stopping you from having important discussions on here. Do you think successful people are stopped because someone else decided to post in a thread they don't like?
>>55328135
That's with a promo code that judging by what it says only works til the end of the month.
>>55327544
Are you really this upset about this shitty amd release? Are you one of those idiots who spouted that it would be better than a titan and now goes around saying B-B-BUT ITS A BUDGET CARD!!! ?
1060 will be underwhelming shit because Nvidia wants to eliminate the sub $400 GPU market. 400$ is basically the new $200. With $200 you either get a really gimped Nvidia, or equally shitty AMD that runs 2 times hotter. Both of them will be too underpowered to run any new game at high settings. Entry level GPUs are not really needed anymore when CPUs have integrated graphics.
>>55328136
>>55328143
Try again, see pic
The 960 easily falls within spec, it's not the spikes, it's consistent power draw that is the problem
Now compare to the 480 which goes to fucking 170W under load, way out of spec
>>55328169
Jesus christ you are retarded, the 1080 doesn't use 6 pin
>>55326430
>worst gpu ever made
nice bait
>>55328229
>I want everyone's autism to be as severe as mine
Sorry
>>55328131
it's not yours really.
swallow your tears and deal with the fact people have different interests from yours, I hate these threads as much as you due to it's lack of content, but implying people who have interest in these subjects are any worse than the ones who post at /dpt/ or /flt/ is just retarded.
>>55328180
>who get so buttblasted that people here play video games
That is not the problem. The problem is that that demographic is full of tech illiterate underage kiddies that do not know what the fuck they're talking.
>>55328176
There was some strawpoll last week that showed that /g/ is mostly young single men living at parents. E.G. losers.
Gotta say that these graphics card baits/threads are beyond retarded. Even if the whole board was conisdered literal aids, these faggots would be 10x worse.
>>55328190
Literally nobody said that it would beat a titan, just that it would be within spitting distance of the 980 and beat the 970. Maybe non-reference designs with a better cooling and an 8 pin connector rather than the 6 pin one could beat the 980, but people expected the 480 to simply perform someplace in between the 980 and 480.
>>55328246
And the demographics of ricing threads and smartwatch generals is better how?
>>55328246
filter the threads if they bother you that much, sperg, you don't get to say what goes and what doesn't in the board.
>>55328245
>/dpt/
Those guys at least can program and many have jobs or working to get one
>/flt/
Discussion of the only viable alternative to the Windows and OS X is good.
>>55326430
What should I buy between the 970 and the 390?
The only cards left are a 390 Gigabyte and a 970 ASUS. Would the 3.5 memeram affect me in the long run even if I stick with 1080?
I am upgrading from a 660 ti and have a 3570k.
Getting really fucking sick of /v/ ruining every board on this site. Yesterday they were spamming /k/ with stupid shit and now this.
Mods you need to keep the v faggots contained. Better yet just delete /v/ so they can all fuck off to Jim watcuckins pig chan and be contained there as they should be.
Really getting sick of /v/
>>55328215
It still doesn't stop the fact that reference 1080s are running close to their single 8-pin setups.
>>55328265
>There was some strawpoll last week that showed that /g/ is mostly young single men living at parents. E.G. losers.
Yup, although I wouldn't call them losers, but I'm sure you envy their freedom
>>55328271
/g/ does not have ricing threads and definitely not smartwatch generals.
Just because you've been here for a few days because you saw that epik greentext xD on reddit doesn't mean you know everything about this board or 4chan.
Kindly fuck off out of here
>>55328203
>Waah!!! Total power consumption is within spec so it's totally fine that it draws well over the spec from the PCIe bus
Are you retarded or something? You were just complaining that the RX 480 draws more than the spec from the PCIe bus and now you're trying to excuse the 960 when it does exactly the same thing?
>>55328274
Honestly if you don't play video games these days, you are a fag
Srs question tho
Is there any reason to get a 480 when I can get a 390x for the same $$$?
>>55328306
>/g/ does not have ricing threads and definitely not smartwatch generals.
And you accuse me of being a newfag?
>>55328143
That was just with the Asus Strix version. None of the other cards had this problem.
>>55328294
/v/ is mostly console oriented, this is actual /g/s demographic, they just lurk the other threads but feel like they can contribute when it's such a menial discussion on GPUs.
>>55328288
>What should I buy between the 970 and the 390?
Performance is nearly identical. 970 uses less power and puts off less heat.
>>55328298
>living at parents
yeah I sure envy your freedom bud. I mean you're not using proprietary software, so NSA spies won't even find out you're jerking off to anime five times every day. I'm sure your mom doesn't know either, she just thinks you've had a cold for the last 20 years straight.
>>55328311
The 960 doesn't go out of spec moron
If you want to see what it looks like when a card goes out of spec, see the pic to the left
>>55328327
Link me to them you dip. We get the occasional/rare homescreen thread but that's pretty much it
>>55328338
Sorry you're a loser
>>55328324
The 390x is way faster than the 480, definitely get it
>>55328362
>"The 960 doesn't go out of spec moron"
>Says this just after being shown a GTX 960 drawing peaks of over 150W over the PCIe bus
Once again, total draw is irrelevant when you draw more than the spec on the PCIe bus. It IS drawing power out of spec.
If the 960 isn't blowing boards, the 480 won't be blowing boards ether.
>>55328443
The truth hurts doesn't it
>>55327841
Shilling this hard
>>55327582
This. Fucking degenerate weabfags need to be locked away
>>55328368
The archive is here for you to use. https://warosu.org/g/
There's plenty of results for home screen threads and smartwatches.
Now tell me before you accuse me of being a newfag again, when did you start browsing /g/?
>>55328445
No it is not, clearly you didn't even look at the graphs I posted.
>>55327578
>amd equivalent of gtx 960 as fast as a 970 being released 2 years after the 960 and 970
Nice.
>>55328497
Was that even English?
>>55328338
does it caused you butthurt?
>>55328113
Didn't the 960 strix pull up to 250w from the motherboard too?
>>55328469
>archive
You can find anything you want in archive. What is your point? I'm talking about current /g/
2 years non stop
>>55328535
Your wit is truly amazing
>>55326430
>not a linux thread
hello summerfriends.
>>55328579
You're flat out lying that you've been here two years if you think ricing isn't a thing.
>>55328496
Once again, it STILL drawing well over the spec from the motherboard. Power doesn't just magically leap from the 6 pin connector to the PCIe power lanes. In case you didn't get it, that graph is SPECIFICALLY power draw from the PCIe bus. In terms of total draw it may be within spec, but only because it draws so little from the 6 pin connector.
Gimped
Drivers
why would you buy an nvidia card when you know for a fact they'll just hit the killswitch in three years and kill your framerate 30%
>>55328656
You don't understand, power spikes are meaningless, it's the power draw per second that matters, which it never goes out of spec
>>55327841
>at the same performance
>>55326464
>>55328694
>>55326464
shadow of mordor is the only game so far that expose 3,5+0,5 ram going on in 970 thanks to its massive textures gtx 970 is simply choking on not enough ram
>>55328592
please go back to /v/ or better yet
>>>/gaschamber/ this isnt a fucking board for video games, video games is NOT technology, literally go back to school, Summer fucking sucks on /g/ it's literal cancer.
>>55328468
you must be 18 or older to post on 4chan
>>55328684
>it's the power draw per second that matters, which it never goes out of spec
For total draw maybe(i.e PCIe + 6 pin which is what's shown in the graph you posted), but not for draw from the PCIe lane. Draw over the PCIe lane is not only peaking up to 225W, but consistently over the 75W spec.
When is it coming out
Where can I buy it online
I don't care if there's something stronger I just want a cheap card.
>>55328799
NO it literally is not, the average power draw is well within spec, just like every card has been before the 480
>>55328745
>>>/autism/
>>55328862
Over the PCIe bus draw is NOT within spec, it is drawing an AVERAGE of over 75W. The fact that it still getting below 150W by drawing well under the spec from the 6 pin connector doesn't change the fact that it's drawing well over spec from the PCIe bus.
>>55328969
No it is not, christ you need to read your sources
how is AMD so sheet
>>55329048
>Chart shows that it's clearly going over the spec not only in peaks, but on average
>Hey! It's totally fine when the combined maximum power draw together with the 6 pin connector comes under the combined average
God you're stupid... The fact that the COMBINED draw is (just) below spec doesn't mean that INDIVIDUAL draw isn't over spec.
>>55329112
because the last good AMD gpus were power hogs
>>55329112
stock card vs super oced card
nvdiots IQ is showing
>>55329147
Holy fuck you are dumb, look at your own fucking graph again, it is well below 75W average
The 480 is literally the only card that has gone out of pcie spec
>>55327056
It's out this year- next month supposedly. around the 31st probs.
1060 has a 3gb and 6gb variant. Price expect 225(3) to 299(6).
>>55329201
all reference cards goy
>>55329112
>Old gimpworks title known to add shitloads of tesselation that the player can't even see just to kill performance on AMD hardware
>A relevant benchmark
>>55329223
>dx12
shill harder
I play games at 1080, I use a 750 ti currently.
I'm getting the 480 when newegg back in stock.
I'll be happy with the card.
Shrug.
>>55329202
Go look at >>55328143 again. The lowest line is the the 75W mark and the average is CLEARLY between the 75W and the 150W lines.
Sorry to break this to you, but the RX 480 isn't alone in going over the PCIe spec and those cards have already shown that you can go over the spec and still not break any motherboards because of something called tolerances.
>>55329244
>Benchmark standardized API all PC games are eventually going to move to
>Somehow "shilling"
Cause games are going to be dx11 forever, right?
>>55329318
>Cause games are going to be dx11 forever, right?
On a nvidiot mind, yes
>>55329318
yea they are, not to mention vulkan will be used more than dx12
>>55329318
>all PC games are eventually going to move to
Linux is becoming ever so slightly relevant as time goes on.
So GP104 is nearly twice as fast with just 35% more die area and 20% higher power consumption.
I feel sorry for AMD.
>>55329208
>3gb
>6gb
What the fuck?
>>55329335
>Literally two games have so far annonced implementations of Vulkan (Doom is just announced while for the Talos Principle implementation is just beta)
>"vulkan will be used more than dx12"
I wouldn't hedge my bets on that quite yet...
>>55329354
How about you get back to me when the steam user figures break OSX levels because even OSX has more than 4 times the users on steam. Not that I have anything against Linux gaining ground seeing how I'm using it right now, but I don't see any kind of overtake of windows happening in at least a decade.
>>55328694
EZ
>>55329443
https://benchlife.info/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-launch-mid-of-july-06292016/
>>55328288
>>What should I buy between the 970 and the 390?
Get a 1080
>>55328294
>Getting really fucking sick of /v/ ruining every board on this site.
/v/ is almost entirely shitposting nowadays but they keep that to their own board. The people who actually make these kind of threads on /g/ are the nvidia shills that we're fully aware of coming both here and on reddit.
>>55329282
Clearly you are blind
>>55329511
No I get it. I just thought they were odd configurations.
>>55329494
It's pretty sad when nvidia's 2 year old card that is cheaper can beat a 480
>>55329576
>b-b-but muh VR!!!!
>>55326430
1960 is a 970 rebranded with 6gb(5.5gb) of vram.
>>55328131
Oh man, this was a good post. So full of every thing that makes the 'Linux as a daily desktop OS" faggots here so entertaining.
Kid..there ain't shit discussed here..ever. 95% of posts are 1-5 words, usually about a previous poster and what a faggot he is.
So fuck of faggot, they are talking hardware here you dumbshit.
Go REEEEEEEEEEE somewhere else. You can even successfully hack your pants zipper at the urinal most of the time.
>>55329494
The cards are nearly identical here with the SSC 970
>>55329576
Last light is nvidia optimized
>>55328265
Of course they live with their parents, most here are 12-17yr old and feel like they are special somehow it appears. Thus calling everyone else a normie.
Too stupid to realize they are normie too( gee, I have interests, that makes me special).
>>55329622
I love this argument. It's really my favorite.
Pushing VR for a budget card. My question for AMD is: Who is going to buy a $800 VR headset just to pair it with budget cards?
I mean really. If you can afford a headset you're going to buy the top-of-the-line card. If you can only afford a lower-tier mainstream card, you're not going to have or be able to afford a VR headset.
>>55329763
Google Cardboard is what they're aiming for
>>55327942
Can a third party manufacturer like Asus, MSI etc make an 8-pin version of the RX 480 so that it doesn't draw as much from the PCIe slot, or is that up to AMD alone?
>>55329832
It's fucked. Get a 1060.
>>55329846
I'd like an answer to my question though.
>>55329832
You usually buy aftermarket cards for the custom PCBs and coolers. So yes, it'll get fixed
>>55326430
I don't mind the discussion of GPUs. They're an integral part of a computer that most people wouldn't be able to work well without.
But for fuck's sake.
This fucking meme bullshit has to stop. Nobody is saying anything of value and it's shitting up the board with nothing but retardation.
Wow. It took you 14nm just to beat my efficiency.
For now...
>>55327493
Nvidiot shill go back to /v/
>>>/v/
>>55329869
>2016 anno domini
>wanting a 3.5Gb card
>>55329574
>>55329869
Now I want to make tender love to my GPU, god dammit
After all this time... all this time.. the GTX 970 still remains the king of value. AMD can't even compete in the same price bracket as a product 2 years old.
so much nvidia butthurt that they actually believe the 970 is faster and cheaper than a 480 at $200
>>55330065
but they can
theres no reason to buy a 970 now
Should I get this card?. I'm poor
Jesus Christ they just made Nvidia's marketing super easy now.
>"The 1070 has Titan X performance with less power consumption than the competitor's entry level cards, for only $379*"
They just need a card that's actually $379 soon.
>>55326430
>Nvidia
>not cutting driver support for their cards
Topkek
Huh, good deal I was just looking at this card. I was thinking of doing a complete rebuild of my computer and going with 1070. If I'm running just a 24" 1080@60hz monitor and A10-5800k for a processor, could I theoretically just upgrade to this card and be solid? I'm running an HD 7700.
>>55328503
>Cheaper
>Faster
How exactly isn't this progress?
>>55330609
Upgrading to the RX 480 that is, not the 1070. Sorry for the poor wording.
If 1060 is going to cost $300 for 6gb version this shit is DOA.
An AIB GTX 970 is cheaper than a reference 480 in Canada
So people need to stop saying that the RX 480 is cheaper than the 970, it's different in other countries
>>55330632
Also 480 costs as much as 980 in EU.
>>55330632
Nvidias 60 series cards always suck ass compard to their AMD counterparts but sell like hotcakes anyway
I wonder why
>>55326464
performance of the card is generally fine
but the power consumption and how terribly it seems to overclock scares me
it seems like amd pushed the cards clock speeds as high as they possibly could. which would explain why all the reviewers could get like a 5% overclock at best.
hopefully with non reference cards it can overclock at least 15% better, but less than 5% with a reference card is terrible.
>>55326430
>350
>budget card
what?
