>http://videocardz.com/61667/what-reviewers-say-about-radeon-rx-480-exceeding-pci-express-power-specifications
>In games, the Radeon RX 480 exceeds 150 Watt thermal design power and PCIe specification. On average, we have 156 watts measured at games, in Furmark the card even pulls at reduced clock 169 watts. Extremely problematic is the fact that the Radeon RX 480 draws up to 88 watts from motherboard slot, although specifications only allow 75 watts. This may in some motherboards cause instability. Since AMD card already operates above the standard, far above the limit, it is not advised to perform overclocking experiments with the reference design, which has only one additional 6-pin connector. Here one can only hope that AMD’s partners offer boards with standards-compliant layout and sufficient power supply.
AMD is fucking done
Bankrupt by end of 2016
Who will replace my motherboard ?
DAY ONE POOLOORIS EPIDEMIC
>overclocking reference
>even buying a reference
No one does this.
>>55324322
Here's your (You). You can go now.
>>55324322
wait for custom cards if you are so anal about this non-issue
That's from single PCI-E slot?
Isn't that really bad for your mobo?
>>55324322
>using a loop to measure electrical shit
kill urself
>>55324438
>this non-issue
Only a true shill would call an actual fire hazard a "non-issue".
>We skipped long-term overclocking and overvolting tests, since the Radeon RX 480’s power consumption through the PCIe slot jumped to an average of 100W, peaking at 200W. We just didn’t want to do that to our test platform.
yikes
>>55324463
fuck off n/v/idiot
The RX480 is the savior of PC gaming and VR.
Go back to /v/
>>55324382
I have a pair of reference 290 ex bitcoin miners. I enjoy setting the target temp to 60 and the max fan speed to 95% and firing up unigine Valley. Vroom Vroom baby
you're not supposed to draw that much power from the 24 pin, it will literally melt.
>1) The RX 480 has passed PCIe compliance testing with PCI-SIG. This is not just our internal testing. I think that should be made very clear. Obviously there are a few GPUs exhibiting anomalous behavior, and we've been in touch with these reviewers for a few days to better understand their test configurations to see how this could be possible.
>2) Update #2 made by the OP is confused. There is a difference between ASIC power, which is what ONLY THE GPU CONSUMES (110W), and total graphics power (TGP), which is what the entire graphics card uses (150W). There has been no change in the spec, so I would ask that incorrect information stop being disseminated as "fact."
>We will have more on this topic soon as we investigate, but it's worth reminding people that only a very small number of hundreds of RX 480 reviews worldwide encountered this issue. Clearly that makes it aberrant, rather than the rule, and we're working to get that number down to zero.
So how much this sucks for a person that has single PCI-E slot
>>55324480
>We're a hardware review site but we decided to not look further into this potential issue. We'll still report it and let all kinds of bullshit rumors emerge.
>>55324463
>RX480 is DAMAGING YOUR FUCKING MOTHERBOARD DUE TO NOT FOLLOWING PCI-E STANDARDS
Like the entire Nvidia 9 series did and was never an issue?
Are you retarded?
>>55324515
In your wet dreams faggot
>>55324588
[citation needed]
>>55324480
How do they manage to fuck up like this?
Aren't they supposed to have an extremely high-grade group of engineers who test stuff like this before releasing the damn card?
>>55324322
I'm scared now D: what will happen to us???
>>55324515
I can't tell, troll, asshole, shill, or butthurt idiot justifying his purchase.
Look I love AMD and have usually gone with them since my first rig, an AM386SX, but they made some completely needless mistakes with their review cards. Wouldn't you want the card that you release first to have the stablest voltage, the beefiest cooler, the best binned silicon? Why marr your product with great silicon but inadequate supplemental power and a shitty cooler?
>>55324454
it is but amdcucks will defend it still
>>55324515
>Can't counter argument
>More ad hominem and blind brand loyalty
Holy fucking damaged parts and housfires
t-thanks RX480
>>55324588
name one 9 series card that violates the spec
>>55324580
>Rumors
"Huh, I've jumped up and down on this glass bridge twice and its shown signs of cracking already! But to stop now would mean that the danger of this activity is only a rumor"
>>55324597
>>55324640
>>55324655
>3 (you)s
Nice, still I was hoping for more ;_;
>>55324588
It was only the asus 970 or something like that
>>55324515
Like any faggot buying a 480 can afford an $800 VR HMD. Rofl wow AMD shills are fucking retarded.
>>55324322
kek
>>55324705
buttravaged AMDrone
>>55324733
The competition would be the 1060, which is supposedly coming out in a week
yesterday:
> Nvidia is finished, rx480 best gpu ever lmao
today
> Amd is finished, rx480 worst gpu ever
so... which one is true /g/? AMDead or Nshit?
test
Nvidia tentative FUD #6,213x10^120
omg I swear AMD is doing stuff. and it's bad. hmmkay
>>55324322
Literally the worst GPU ever made.
test2
>>55324778
oh right, now we should wait.
what happened to amd are waitfags?
>>55324794
The TL;DR for the RX480:
It's pretty good for $200 bucks.
So I can now replace every single part in my system because I bought a cheap 199$ chinese assembled gpu ?
Awesome. Do not even think about Crossfire.
I just want to thank my NvidiaBros on /g/ for stopping me from making a stupid decision of buying a rx480.
>>55324794
The card is fine for the price. Everyone is overreacting.
>>55324847
You need to take a break from 4chan for a little bit
>>55324794
Currently, its AMDone, but maybe after 3rd party boards or the 1060 is utter shit.
>>55324322
Your mobo is a piece of shit if it won't handle 8 additional watts
>>55324694
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html
>>55324752
This image was clearly edited. Look at the white border.
>>55324694
960 Strix.
But that was specifically ASUS. The other 960 cards didn't pound the PCIe slot without lube, to my knowledge.
>>55324778
what happened to last night's FUD that LOL AMD CANTO WIN AGAINST A SIXU QUINTLLION YEARS OLD 970 GUISE.
which, as I've said, wasn't even the target prime competitor for its class. NOw we should wait till nvidia launches a card with lower bandwidth and that will cannibalize it's entire SKU below the 1070 for 150 dollars? yeah, right. keep waiting.
>>55324918
not nvidia's fault
>>55324598
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html
The 960 Strix has peaks in power draw way over 200w over the PCI-E slot, and the card in total peaks over 350w.
>>55324895
I just got here, son. You are probably mad at another AMDrone other than myself. All the twists and spins you've been plotting today must've taken a toll on you.
>>55324974
I'm not sure why you're so dead set on comparing cards from different price brackets AND different generations. Where is your logic?
>>55324986
He curiously recommends it, also.
>>55324548
>Nvidiots with their goy blinders completely ignore this
>>55325029
iT was nvidia's logic not even 10 hours ago.
I've been saying for as long as I remember that this release should be going against nvidia's x60 sku's.
Now you guys who've been spinning this narrative. yesterday it was the prime target (becuase some faulty leaks were leading to the belief that the Rx480 wouldn't be able to compete against the 970 {or more precisely a 6quintillion years old card from nvidia} and now it roflstomped it everybody is rushing to push that it's irrelevant narrative.
apex kek
>>55325092
my motherboard is crying just by looking at this shit
hope you already sold your AMD stocks
damn....
its shit its nothing near what it was hyped for it doesnt oc its over heating it is weaker than gtx 970
and in europe atm it's as expensive as gtx970
pointless utterly pointless and i was waiting for it for a long time too bad, now im waiting for gtx1060 to replace my r9 380 instead i guess.
Only retards would buy anything from nvidia @ $300 price point. There is no point buying the 9xx series anymore, they will fall beyond the radeon cards about ~10-15% in the coming 3 years. Also the rx480 rocks at dx12 and vulkan, these api-s are the future.
>>55325210
>buying a budget card every year
Friend.....
a metric for benchmarking which has never been used before in any review that I've read.
It suddenly makes sense to showcase it, and leave all of the other cards in comparison without the same specific testing.
>>55325243
Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't been used before.
Hint: it has.
>>55325210
>amd user here guise.
>gonna switch to glorious Nvidia and leave this disgusting trash [that literally makes me butt hurt so very very much every time I find myself in need of uttering its name aloud because of my job] behind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFJXGQ4nL8w
So this is the best HTPC on the market right now.
>>55324322
Why
Why
Why did things have to be like this
I just wanted a nice, uneventful launch and some nice video cards
But instead it's turned into a shitshow, the 480 sucks, it's slower than a 970, it violates pcie spec, it overheats
It's just a disaster...
>>55324733
>hitman
what next ashes of singularity?
its same as 50% more fps on nvidia!*
*with hair works and invisible rock tessellation on
amd flopped this it... again and there is no denying it
with is sad beacause i was counting on rx480 a lot
vega will save us
>>55325333
AMD has a counter for hidden tesselation now.
>>55325318
Wait for the next generation.
>>55324322
nvidia fags on sucide watch
>>55324322
>Who will replace my motherboard ?
Nobody, because your a shill and the second paragraph of your own article refutes your claim:
>Excessive load from PCIe slot is not limited, because it’s within safe reserves. In the worst case scenario the motherboard would switch off. However with our Asus Z170-Deluxe in the test system, the Radeon RX 480 ran smoothly, and also with our MSI Z97 Gaming 3 there were no abnormalities ...
Unless you have a shitty cheap mobo this isn't going to matter. Also, let's not forget that these are reference models you fucking brand-loyal shit heads. It's a fucking $200 card. Stop pretending it's designed to compete with 1070s and 1080s
>>55325092
>oc when card is already pushing spec
that's like taking a high stress performance engine and slapping a turbo on it. of course it will blow up.
>materialism the board
>>55325409
it's exactly the poorfags who buy budget motherboards without supplemental pcie power that needs to worry about this. aka the entire 480 market.
>>55325409
depending on the game it can compete with the 1070 kek
>>55325409
But it will have to compete with the 1060, I'd rather spend ~$50 more and get a decent card out of it rather than this mediocre shitshow with no overclocking capabilities whatsoever.
>brand-loyal shit heads
Pot, meet kettle.
>>55325379
Fuck that nigga. I'm getting a god damn 1050 when it comes out. AMD are over. My 7870 has served me well, but now that it's dying it's time to switch to Nvidia.
>>55325239
buy high sell low as they say
i made mistake i rushed and got 380 instead of 970 or 390 and it turns out i need something more powerful
>>55325296
what makes you think i hate r9 380? its good card way better than gtx 960
if i got 960 i would be in even more hurry to replace it.
380 is just insufficient for me i like having 60fps in games and 380 doesnt provide that
if i bought 390 i probably wouldnt think about replacing it yet ,same for 970.
>>55325391
You supposed to read the entire article and not single paragraphs Rajit. Other than that it still doesnt follow PCI-SGI standard.
>>55325333
>>55324322
The funniest thing is that the retarded AMDumbs are saying that the stock speeds aren't the be all and end all, it's already drawing 164 watts on average without an Overclock, you're literally asking for a fried mobo if you do OC.
I think it's built into the card that it will shit itself at a 1.5% overclock in order to stop the card from frying the system.
>970 performance
>200 bucks
This card has single handedly pushed what used to be 300-350 dollar performance down to a 200 usd price point.
It's doing what it set out to do.
Let's see how 1050/1060 are doing, which is the natural competitor for this segment.
All in all, it's pretty meh. Which is to be expected
Is the 4GB version out yet?
>>55324322
the rx480 does NOT fail spec
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/d4sy0c3
>>55324322
Why do they always fuck up?
>>55325473
lmao the fury x
>>55325458
>1060 good
lol not like the 960 was better than the competition
> no overclocking capabilities
>reference cards
I wonder why also see >>55325382
>>55325445
>>55325409
>Unless you have a shitty cheap mobo this isn't going to matter
so the entire poorfagging community has a 500+$ mobo? Sure thing kid.
>>55325473
>960
Pro advice: start comparing it to 750ti it will look even better
>>55325479
>1,5% oc
but thats wrong see >>55325382
>>55325445
>>55324580
>amd shills in charge of reading comprehension
you guys are sad.
>>55324603
>amd
>high grade anything
lmao
>>55325524
>1350 mhz
>A better piece of silicone means it overclocks well
100 mhz
WOW STOP THE PRESSES
>>55325491
>expecting me to find relevant information in a reddit thread
It might be there but fucked if I can ever find anything in that mess.
Why didn't they just include an 8-pin connector?
What a dumb, rookie-ass mistake.
>>55325318
just wait 2weeks for versions with 8pin power and custom cooler
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This can't be happening...
Polaris was supposed to be power efficient...
>>55325614
Relative to woodscrew house fires, it is efficient.
TOPKEK MAN
>>55325614
>draws almost as much power as 970 while being slower and with a newer node
Jesus what a fucking disaster, just go bankrupt already AMD.
>>55325614
>consumes 20w less than 1070
>needs an additional card to get 1070 performance
yep it's a piece of shit
>>55325645
Should have just shrunk the 300 series and went on vacation.
>>55325614
>232mm2 vs 398mm2
>only manages to draw 10w less than 970
How the utter fuck...
>>55325523
hint: it is at that exact category.
you know of the 970 price drop? It's a counter maneuvre which failed gloriously, btw.
we're talking about 200 dollar cards, but you must so fabulously rich that you shouldn't even be posting in this thread filled with poor people. You'll end up engrossing yourself and start to feel nauseated amongst this crowd filled with the unwashed masses my wealthy beautiful fellow anon.
>>55325675
And this, my nigga, is why only a fool buys beta silicon.
I'm waiting at least a year for the new 14/16nm processes to mature before I buy a card powered by it.
AMD RX480 summary:
>Polaris architecture 14nm
>overheats like shit during basic load 94.5 C
>overheats even faster during OC (bsod)
>fries your mobo because not following PCI-E standard of 75 watts
>damages and crashes your system during OC
>damages single parts of your system
>performs worse than a 2,5 year old GTX 970 in 9 out of 10 games
>performance in VR unknown
>insane loud plastic blower fan 65.4 decibel
>Marketing lied about 1080 performance
>Markerting lied about single performance
>Marketing lied about power consumption
and the list goes on t-Thanks AMD!
Buy two of those get a housefire ensurance for free!
I wonder what will happen to the ZEN cpus. AMD is a fucking disaster.
>>55324548
yeah guys, some of our shitty 480 will fry your mobo, but no worry it's just a small normal. pray to the RNG god that you don't get one of those
pajeet out
>tfw 480 is still way more expensive than 970's here
how did they fuck up their pricing outside of the US so bad? no wonder nobody buys amd. i bet that once the 1060 comes out it'll be the same performance as the 480 but they won't try and fuck over their non american market.
>>55325731
new fermi? new fermi!
>>55325523
960 prices @newegg):
>top 366,77
>bottom 179,99
average~220 mark
I wonder how could it possibly make any sense whatsoever to compare them? It's absurd to compare cards at the exact same price point AND CATEGORY, don't you think?
all of this poor people; it's like they never had a proper education.
>>55325678
>you know of the 970 price drop? It's a counter maneuvre which failed gloriously
i know that it was a counter messure but so what? its far from failed one. When im looking on actuall shelf prices i see good non reference gtx 970 models in same or even cheapper price than rx480 8gb reference design. May be in few days/weeks rx480 prices will get closer to what amd listed as an official price but than we will have gtx1060 with will be not that much more expensive but certanly more powerfull since nvidia market it as 970 sucessor.
>>55325718
That has nothing to do with it. The 14nm LPP node is mature, and there is no issue with low yielding dies.
The RX 480's biggest glaring issue is having just 32 ROPs while going up against Hawaii/Grenada with 64. Despite the higher clock rate of Polaris its pixel throughput is still lower.
Stock voltages are way higher than necessary because AMD did no clock binning whatsoever for Polaris 10 or 11, they're just shipping out dies that boot and letting AIBs deal with picking the best ones. The only real reason for this, aside from saving a couple pennies per chip, is that these are all left overs. We know that Apple purchased GPUs using both dies from AMD, and a company like Apple doesn't pay for scraps. Exactly like with the Tonga die being used for the 5K iMac. The consumer market only got the clipped down version in the R9 285 which had a memory pad fused off, as well as a bunch of new PowerTune IP never activated in Windows drivers.
Polaris 10 isn't beta silicon, the consumer cards are just left overs from what Apple picked.
>>55324322
ALL THEY HAD TO FUCKING DO IS TO HAVE A FUCKING 8PIN CONNECTOR INSTEAD OF A 6
WTF AMD. THAT WAS LITERALLY A JEW MOVE RIGHT THERE
>>55325776
only severely uneducated people would dare to comprae 200 dollar cards with their equivalent in price.
>>55325813
I see. So it's Tonga all over again.
In that case I will wait for the rehash series and grab an RX 580 instead.
>>55325804
>but so what?
>Nvidia still has my ass spread in full glory no matter what the circumstances
semper fi anon
>>55325813
This doesn't seem like an unreasonable train of logic, given the aggressive courting of Apple. The question then becomes:
At what point, IF EVER, do the discrete consumer chips that aren't scraps find their way to shelves? 3 months? 6 months? A year? Never?
>>55325731
Sounds about right except the 970 is less than 2 years old
>>55325862
>i will buy inferior product now to help noble copetitor!
get real im looking for gpu and im looking at what both teams can offer me atm im not fighting war against evil nvida pricing, i cant make decision basing on how cards got to their current pricing.
So far crushing majority of my gpus were from ati/amd because ati/amd had better deals (and i never really expirience the mystical "shit drivers" ) but so far 480 doesnt look like particulary good deal to me.
>>55325896
Probably never.
Though all the non reference GPUs should have lower power draw at stock clocks, if the manufacturers even bother that is.
The cards should underclock very well, and power consumption should plummet. We know that Polaris 11 drawing just 50w with a 850mhz core clock and 0.8375v vcore was competing favorably with the GTX 950, no reason why Polaris 10 wouldn't clock down that low. Though there is still that glaring issue of the ROP count. Lowering pixel throughput any further will only position the RX 480 even worse against the 970 and 390.
Clock per clock Polaris 10 just isn't competition to AMD's Hawaii/Grenada in the R9 290x-390x which is concerning. I would hope that drivers would have some magical fix in store, but I've seen these circumstances far too many times before.
I'm sure AMD is happy about selling tons of chips, but this really doesn't look good to enthusiasts.
>>55324322
uhh legimitmate source? any website changing s to a z is not legit.
Im confused here
why does nvidia keep getting better performance with "worse" specs?
My r9 fury with a 4096bit HBM memory buss is being beaten by a 1070 with a 256bit buss
even at 4k where the hbm should shine the 1070 is beating me
>>55325993
Peak memory bandwidth does not directly correlate to performance.
Theoretical compute power does not directly correlate to performance.
>>55325981
Thank you for your analysis of the situation.
>>55325569
Because they made a 150W card.
Third party solutions are free to change to an 8pin or add another 6pin. If you want to overclock you should buy one of them.
>>55326068
but then it will no longer be 229$ gpu (it isn't one already any way as prices are much higher) giving it even less reason to exist
>>55325993
AMD has shitty and inconsistent drivers and their architecture is focused on DX12 and vulcan. They do hardware with significantly better TFLOPS than Nvidia, but since most of the games currently use DX11 they lose because Nvidia cards are just way better at it. Nvidia cards also have much better power efficiency.
I called it weeks ago. The RX 480 will be a disappointment that's late to the party, and Nvidia will steal AMD's thunder with the 1060.
Honestly, I wish AMD would just go bankrupt. It's time to kill this facade of competition and let the free market sort Nvidia out.
>>55326068
>150W card
>draws 170W with stock clocks in bf4
mkay
>>55325993
>>55325993
different architecture of the chips making it preform differently under different circumstances dx11 prefer nvidia architecture a lot
and many gamesdevs make their games with nvidia in mind simply because nvida has majority of the market
plus
1070 is a 16nm card fury is 28nm card
fury has only 4gb ram 1070 has 8 and faster ram does not compensate (at last doesnt compensat enough) for lack of ram when lots of it is needed.
Value wise Fury was never a good choice for a gaming gpu any way.
>>55325993
>he bought a fury
>>55326253
you can just guess how happy I was to get my R9 Nano rma'd few weeks a go. Changed it to 1070
when are they going to sell 1070s for reasonable prices? I'm not spending 500€+ on a gpu
>>55326284
I sold my 970 some time ago and now am thinking about buying something new in the 300$ range. Wonder if the 1060 will beat the 489... do we have another amd fiasco on our hands?
>>55325981
>doesn't look good to enthusiasts.
Isn't that what Vega is for? I thought the 480 was never supposed to be high-end.
>>55326323
when you stop living in a 3rd world shithole
>>55326323
lucky for you it's 499 EUR and in stock
http://www.nvidia.de/graphics-cards/geforce/pascal/gtx-1070/
i'm waiting for cheaper aftermarket cards though. price drop should be incoming early 2017 when they release the 1080 ti.
>>55326185
>let the free market sort Nvidia out.
That's what AMD is trying to do. Are you expecting some new magical GPU company to pop up?
>>55326340
I mean in the sense that enthusiasts would criticize the architecture and AMD, not that it was intended for the enthusiast performance segment.
>>55326386
Ah right
>>55326375
Samsung will buy up whatever is left of the shit turd that is AMD and an actual competitor with resources will emerge
>>55326340
Whoaaaaaa stop that logic shot anon, you'll give them nVidia unpaid shills cognitive dissonance
>>55326337
I predict that the 1060 is going to be better stock, but rx480 is going to overclock way better with custom cooling (and it will be really damn power hungry). I would buy 1070 or be a waitfag till the end of this year and see what comes of rx490
>>55326375
there are many companies which will want a part of the graphics business. intel, apple, samsung, microsoft, sony etc will all go at it if amd are forced to sell of ati. all of those companies produce products which would benefit from graphics chips eg mobile graphics, console graphics, tablet graphics etc, and it'll benefit them greatly if they can produce all of this in-house. amd are currently doing the same thing with their apu's.
>>55326493
someone posted about this in another thread
>>55326271
>>55326452
AMD isn't anywhere near bankruptcy, and they sure as hell aren't going to be acquired by any outside party.
The consumer market is nothing but icing on the cake when it comes to hardware. The meat and potatoes is always enterprise sales, which AMD is already starting to recover in. They'll be selling millions of Opterons and GPUs to a couple Chinese firms for HPC clusters, and they already have a deal for a semi-custom enterprise APU.
>>55326371
I have money, I'm just very Jewish.
>>55326340
>>55326386
what if you are poor enthusiast?
You still want to feel good speeding in your tuned golf not only drool watching supercars in tv
Amd promised us revolution and it seems it was extinguished before it even started.
>>55324322
AMD FANBOYS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>55324515
>n/v/idiot
>The RX480 is the savior of PC gaming
the most ironic part of your post is that people who use their GPUs to get actual work done (CUDA) almost 100% ubiquitously use nvidia
i think you are the /v/ child
hahahahahahaha
>>55326515
That's quite interesting. It seems like they really cut the costs while designing the card. Funny to read about Nano when it's portrayed in positive light since it's easily the worst pos i've ever had
>>55325442
I am a noob. Do beefier cards than the 480 require supplemental PCIe power? I never knew this was a feature of mobos.
WHY AMD WHY?, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE US FROM JEWVIDIAS PRICE GOUGING.
>>55324848
Just don't put it in an ASRock motherboard.
>>55326582
why is the 4gb one so much worse than the 8gb one? how does slower video memory do that?
>>55326592
Its a cheap to manufacture, relatively small die. On top of that Apple got the best of the best of them.
>>55326582
hahahahahahaha
Yes, I can cherry pick too.
>>55324322
>Extremely problematic is the fact that the Radeon RX 480 draws up to 88 watts from motherboard slot, although specifications only allow 75 watts
AMD is no stranger to blowing way past all recommended power draw levels
>7990
>R9295X
>>55326634
>5 frames per second less
>so much worse
>>55326663
>muh async compute
>literally 5 fps faster than a stock 970
KEK
>>55326672
nigga they're running at the exact same clocks yet one is 5 fps worse off because of memory clocks. i've never heard of memory clocks causing this much of a gap.
>>55325391
>"of course our testbed motherboard is much better than what buyers at the $230 pricepoint will have but everything went well for a few hours of benchmarking so I'm sure it will be fine for years of use."
>>55326634
7gbps vs 8gbps memory
Be honest /g/, how many of you fell for the AMD meme like me?
I even bought a freesync monitor
>>55326593
Some motherboards have connectors for supplemental PCIe power to help with power draw that having many GPUs (or whatever else) connected causes.
In example, running 4 GPUs in SLI/Crossfire can maxed out cause 75W power draw per card from the motherboard, totaling to 300W.
Single cards don't require this since anything above 75W has at least a 6-pin connector, but when going for crazy multi-gpu setups it can help having that extra juice
>>55326634
memory clock
>>55326688
>Cheaper than stock 970
>Is itself a stock card
Keep trying to convince yourself that the 480 is somehow a failure because the reference card doesn't beat a card that costs twice as much that nobody expected it to beat n/v/idiot...
>>55326688
this
also don't forget these cards are almost maxed the fuck out from factory with reviewers only able to get like 4% overclock on average. compare that to the 970 reference which can overclock by as much as 20%.
it's literally a lemon.
>>55324322
>bankrupt
it's fucking sold out everywhere
i guess ill just wait for aftermarket cards ,at this point
>>55326663
>cherry picking
>wins in literally every single category
>>55326736
>it's a stock CARD
it's a stock card that can't take a 1.5% overclock without artifacting.
>>55326670
>Nether Nvidia or AMD are strangers to blowing way past all recommended power draw levels
Fixed that for you
Seriously thou, Nvidia is just as bad at this. The GTX 970 should stick below 225W if it was to follow the specs, but even the stock card peaks at close to 300W and averages at well over 250W.
Great, this fucking thing is literally a fire hazard because it uses too much power, good job AMD
>>55325813
The problem with this scenario is that AMD would certainly have sent these hypothetical better binned Apple chips to the media review outlets.
>>55326781
Except Nvidia does not go over the PCIE specs, while AMD is far outside of them.
It is literally dangerous what they have done with the 480, like I wouldn't want this card in my system due to the fire hazard
>>55326522
>AMD isn't anywhere near bankruptcy
They are still losing money every quarter and AFAIK they only have about $1b left in cash reserves. They actually are kind of getting into hot water.
>>55326736
>costs twice as much
i can go out and buy an aftermarket 970 right now which will have better cooling and much better overclocking potential for £20/30 cheaper than a reference (see: reference) 480. if you don't live in america this card has awful value.
The more things change, the more they stay the same
>>55326811
>fire hazard
Lol don't be ridiculous. The worst case scenario is that your motherboard will shut itself off if it doesn't like the extra draw.
Not defending this piece of shit card btw.
>>55324322
You know that thing called drivers that havent released yet?
>>55326823
>5 core cpu
>>55326850
amd have already confirmed there won't be any launch day drivers or anything like that. people who bought the card based on reviews will have the same performance as the reviews.
>>55326807
no they wouldnt
>>55326775
>Posts Anandtech benchmarks which don't include Hitman or The Division (both of which are titles where the 480 comes out on top of the 970)
>Somehow "accidentally" misses that the 480 won by a decent margin in AotS >>55326663
>"wins in literally every single category"
Right... Keep telling yourself that and that people actually expected the 480 to beat the 980 Ti.
>>55326778
100+Hz is not "1.5%" for a card with a stock clock of 1120MHz
>>55326849
>Shut itself off
The fact that it's allowing the PCI-E slot to draw more than it's rated wattage should be a clue that there's no protection there. And judging by the temps that a 480 reaches, it's probably going to start burning before your mobo shuts off.
>>55326876
oh I was talking about the 1070, not the 970. Why would I compare it to a last-gen card?
>>55326882
Seriously I am honestly worried this thing will fuck up your computer bad over time.
Why did they go out of spec, doesn't make any sense, there's never been a card that did that before.
>>55324985
>Nvidia card
>Not Nvidia's fault
>AMD card
>Definitely AMD's fault
Okay
>>55326916
>Asus 960
>>55326811
>>55326818
I'm referencing the "IT DOESN'T BEAT THE 980 TI!!!1 IT'S A FAILURE!!!1" shit you n/v/idiots have spent the whole day pushing.
>>55326811
>Except Nvidia does not go over the PCIE specs, while AMD is far outside of them.
Yes they do, this is pretty much industry standard for high end GPUs. Also, time to read about fire retardants in electronics because electronics haven't actually been able to catch fire since the 1980s.
>>55326876
>stock clock of 1120mhz
The stock clock of a 480 is 1266mhz
>>55326874
Did you have a stroke while typing your explanation for your assertion? Or were you just being a fanboy.
>disclaimer: RX480 is the best card @ $230
>I'm not out to harm your feelings
>this is a safe zone
>>55326926
It's okay when Nvidia does it
>>55326937
>electronics haven't actually been able to catch fire since the 1980s
>>55326901
>Why would I compare it to a last-gen card?
Because nvidia doesn't have anything else in the same price-performance range? It's completely silly to compare the 480 to the 1070 when the latter costs almost twice as much.
>>55326937
>>Except Nvidia does not go over the PCIE specs, while AMD is far outside of them.
>Yes they do, this is pretty much industry standard for high end GPUs.
Uhh no they don't, there has literally never been a card like the 480 that drew more power than the PCIE slot provides
>>55326876
Comparing them in hitman is pointless
it's like comparing in rise of tomb raider for nvidia.
rx 480 (oc) lose in 8/10 games by 2 to 5% with gtx 970 (oc)
while drawing more power costing more and heating up to the point of fire hazard
>>55327004
>>55326980
The 970 is actually cheaper than the 480 and the same performance, nvidia didn't even need to make a new card, their 2 year old one already beats it.
>>55326974
>Doesn't know about mandatory fire retardants in both PCBs and any plastic parts
>Thinks modern electronics can do anything other than let out a bit of smoke
Seriously, contrary to what you might think, cartoons are not an accurate depiction of reality...
>>55326939
That's the boost clock dufus.
>>55327004
2
N O T A T R U E 1 4 N M
>>55326574
>>55327004
3
This is what happens when you exceed the PCIE voltage draw
>>55327039
>That's the boost clock
Yeah and when you overclock you remove that limit, fucktard.
>>55326980
the magic words have been spoken folks, price-performance
/thread
>>55327077
>my dad twerks at Nintendo
Kekd
>>55327004
4
>>55327039
>>Thinks modern electronics can do anything other than let out a bit of smoke
Interesting, I'd like to see how the smoke comes without a fucking fire you idiot
>>55327004
>Comparing them in hitman is pointless
Because it's DX12 and Nvidia still builds their GPUs with DX11 in mind?
>>55327004
>rx 480 (oc) lose in 8/10 games by 2 to 5% with gtx 970 (oc)
Andtech only benchmarked 5 games in their review and they didn't benchmark an OC'd card.
>>55327091
Great, why the fuck did AMD do this? Are they really that incompetent?
>>55327022
>>55327063
>>55327084
>>55327108
LMAO. Downclocked 480 is faster than OC 970.
>>55327118
That's because benchmarking OC'd cards is too inconsistent
>>55327091
NO, nothing happens.
>>55327091
>24 pin
How is it even relevant? Are you retarded?
>>55327118
>DX 12 meme
99.9% of games run DX 11, even the latest purported DX 12 games basically run on DX 11.
Remember all the drivel that we heard from AMDfags during the announcement? B-but the Nvidia doesn't render the textures correctly...
>>55325993
>64 ROPs
In comparison. the 980 Ti has 96.
>>55327077
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>>55327137
>AMD's new flagship is faster than a non-flagship last gen card
>>55327022
>>55327063
>>55327084
>>55327108
why is this the only site i can find that gives the 480 performance like a 980/390x? every where else (like 20 other sites) puts it between a 390/970. i guess these euros must have fucked their methodology somehow.
>>55326945
They wouldnt because it would be to easy to spot you idiot, chips they send to apple litterally have more texturing and rendering processors and they are not called rx 480 despite its technically the same chip but simply made as it should be. It would be childishly easy to catch them on it and shit storm would be impossible to imagine. All they could realistically do is cherry pick chips that fit the specs for rx480 but won the lotery and oc well but they didnt do that either since all reviews talk about none existant oc.
>>55327159
...but they dont...
>>55327157
>even the latest purported DX 12 games basically run on DX 11.
>>55327093
You're still increasing clocks over the *base* clock dufus.
>>55327109
You do know that fire is not actually required for smoke? A lot of materials, including plastics, will start to smoke before they catch fire and with fire retardants molded into the plastic, which all plastics used in electronics have to have, they don't go past the point of smoking.
>>55327156
Where do you think the pcie power comes from retard?
>>55327173
>flagship
I know youre baiting but still. Kek.
>>55327186
>>55327192
Educate yourself. Youre on /g/ for fucking sake.
>>55327091
KEK can't wait poorfags to replace their entire system because of one RX480
>>55326522
Don't they also make hardware for all the consoles?
>>55327173
>480
>flagship
It may be their fist 400-series card, but it sure as hell isn't a flagship card. It's mid-range card you idiot.
>>55327203
RX480 is the best AMD can produce at 14nm today. Vega is going to have HBM2. The reason this isn't a flagship is because it performs 50% worse than nVidia's 16nm 1070 (not even their flagship).
>>55327118
>>55327108
>>55327084
>>55327063
>>55327022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMHJhP7Y7oM&feature=youtu.be
>>55327190
So my motherboard is going to start smoking and melting before it catches fire and burns from a 480?
Great, it's good they give you a warning sign before your entire system goes up in flames.
>>55324477
90 celsius can't even boil water, let alone cause anything to spontaneously combust.
>>55327226
If drawing too much over PCIe in games was a problem we'd be seeing a lot more of this with both Nvidia and AMD GPUs. Motherboards are built to be able to handle peak draws that exceed the spec. Bitcoin miners however draw constant peak power with their compute loads so they end up revealing issues normal users don't run into.
>>55327232
A flagship is supposed to come first. You realize AMD could now just be relegated to the mid range market completely, so this is literally their flagship.
>>55327188
See Rise of the Tomb Raider, fucktard.
>amd sponsored game
>performs worse on new flagship amd card compared to midrange amd rebrand card
can amd do nothing right??
rip my assrock
>>55327295
>what is physx
>r9 390 5.1 tflops
>rx 480 5.8 tflops
480 is actually slower than last gen 390, draws more power than the gtx 1070. I'm thoroughly disgusted with amd atm.
>>55327288
it's dangerous to overdraw pcie power because you'll blow the traces.
>>55327258
>frame times suck in crossfire/SLI as always
Why doesn't anyone just buy 3 960s?
>Poo in loo engineering
>>55327228
Yes they do, its been filling out their bottom line as consumer CPU sales have dwindled. 50 million+ chips sold since the consoles launched, and they have new ones on the way.
>>55327263
Nope, at worst it'll just smoke a bit and power down if anything will happen all. You might not even get any smoke. Pretty much all GPUs draw more than the spec at peak loads and motherboards are built to handle it. If a GTX 970 won't fry your motherboard, than an RX 480 won't do it ether.
Seriously, how many times do I have to repeat the fact that electronics have since the 1980's been legally required to use materials that prevent them from catching fire even when failing catastrophically? These materials are such that they won't catch fire even if you put them in an actual fire, the plastics will just melt and get charred.
