Why is it that after like 8 years notebook OEMS still haven't cought up with apple's trackpad? If it's just windows drivers how can the trackpoint be so responsive, yet touchpads are still shit?
There is no way now.
haptic feedback and force touch. Apple is close to technological nirvana
I thought the glass trackpad was patented and that's why no one else has it
I prefer clits
This is true. I wouldn't be so miffed about Apple having great trackpads if it weren't that everyone else has awful ones. It's not like
>5 stars
>4.8
>4.7
>4.6
etc. through the competitor brands. Apple's at 5 and the next best is like a 2.
>>55279781
Then put a screen under it, fuck it.
Or just use any phones digitizer and say how the hell can you patent that?
>>55279794
>tfw lenovo will never release a novelty foot stool shaped like a trackpoint
>>55279801
I feel bad for Poor anons that cant afford apple or those spergs that are too autistic to consider buying Apple. Its just so much better.
>>55279748
Because you cant catch up to snakeoil. There is literally 0 (zero) objective reason why macs trackpad is any better than acers trackpad.
>>55279801
Apples were never 5. (Spare force touch, but that's new problems.
If you're not gonna use two buttons make dam well sure you can click anywhere.
Fuck this "Drag to the top corners without letting go!" fuck that. Holding in a top corner feels like the glass is about to crack.
Force touch is a fix, but the configurability is just too fucking small.
I want to use any of the options to do whatever the fuck I want god dammit.
>>55279748
No fucking clue. I guess it's because Apple has drivers, development and OS support in control, no one else has that.
>>55279826
The Acer Aspire was my first laptop and I thought it had a great trackpad. Now I have a retina macbook and it's expectedly superb.
>>55279830
You can click anywhere on the new trackpads. Feels even all around.
>>55279826
It feels way better, also gestures.
You are just an autist.
>>55279826
LMFAO
>>55279748
2 rupees have been deposited in yours shit eating hands Rajeesh.
>>55279748
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>trackshit is good
Can we put an end to this meme already?
>>55279845
I know, but there's a handful of more problems. Not as many, wish I could update or something.
>>55279748
Why is it after 8 years mactard morons still shill utter shit as good?
>>55279880
>>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
Woooooooooooooooosh
>>55279748
Why do you like them. I can't stand them.
All touchpads/trackpads are universally shit. It's just that OS X is more optimized for its use and gestures are actually built in with the OS.
>>55279924
*And MacBook trackpads are glass and feel much better
>>55279748
Several laptops exist with equal touchpads to your shitbook. Many even use glass as well. Just because you're a street shitting Pajeet and pretend your facebook machine exists in a vacuum and only competes with $300 laptops doesn't make it the best anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
>>55279781
>glass trackpad was patented and that's why no one else has it
This is why no one takes mactard morons seriously. They literally make up shit to defend their corporate religion.
>>55279880
>I never used one
>>55280053
>has no argument
>can't dispute technical fact
>"u nevr used it!!!!111 leav apel alone!!!11"
>>55280016
wacom had the active digitizer patented. it's not that unreasonable for someone not in mechanical engineering to conclude that some critical aspect of the trackpad apple makes/uses is similarly patented and not licensed.
it speaks more poorly about you than them that you interpret every comment like a fucking retard.
>>55280072
>literally making up more shit in his fruity fantasy land
Why are mactards universally fucking retarded?
>>55280083
>>55280016
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/01/15/apple-wins-patent-for-glass-on-metal-trackpad-designed-by-jobs-ive
>>55280004
what does your link have to do with anything? just linking randomly to philosophical modes of discussion doesn't make you look intelligent.
i can't think of a single review for a laptop that describes its trackpad as equally good compared to apple's. can you find one?
i happen to prefer the trackpoint on my thinkpad, but being a blind zealot about this shit doesn't help anyone. it just makes the rest of us look completely unhinged from reality. apple makes fucking good trackpads. i wish other manufacturers had a clue, but i also wish developing on windows was easier than eating metal shavings.
>>55280095
Jesus Christ BTFO beyond return
>>55280083
what was i making up? i didn't even assert anything factual. i just said it's an understandable conclusion to come to, and advised you not to make stupid, hasty conclusions about other people.
you shouldn't make stupid, hasty conclusions about other people. i'll copy/paste that sentence in case i need it again. something tells me i might.
>>55280095
You should go report in at your local Cult Store and tell them to go sue happy on the dozens of other companies out there with glass touchpads then retard.
>>55280114
Link one
>>55280072
>it's not that unreasonable for someone not in mechanical engineering to conclude
Just kill yourself retard.
>>55280114
can you point to a laptop review that claims that the laptop being reviewed has as good a trackpad as the mbp? either the force trackpad or the more familiar one.
you're making all these cult-y references but the mark of a cult is someone who gets more adversarial when more evidence is introduced, and given that you just escalated when someone pointed to a story about the trackpad indeed being patented, you seem a bit cultish.
>>55280118
>mactoddler completely unaware of the rest of the market
>claims his fruity toddlertoy is the best
This is why no one takes mactoddlers seriously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
>>55280016
*The US government makes up shit to defend the religion of corporatism
ftfyi
it's fucking patented
>>55280132
Just one. One other laptop with a glass trackpad.
>>55280118
You claimed you facebook toy is the only laptop with a glass touchpad, you prove that first.
>>55280125
you're freaking out, and i get why you would be; someone has offered a measured interpretation of someone's comment, and for a zealot that's really hard to deal with. you need to go for a walk or something. deal with the anger in a productive way.
>>55280142
>Just one.
>mactards are so fucking retarded they can't even handle a simple task like using a search engine
>>55280132
you might want to try https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
>>55280158
Just link 1 (one) laptop with a glass trackpad that isn't a MacBook. Should be easy if there's a ton of them as you say.
in before XPS
>>55280168
There are. But it's not a selling point because people who aren't mactards don't buy into bullshit marketing.
>>55280172
about 70% of XPS posters are paid dell shills.
>>55280168
Prove macbooks are the only laptops aren't shit, just one macbook. It shouldn't be hard if they aren't shit like you say.
>>55280168
he can't. or more accurately, he won't.
zealots will not deal with reason, nor can they be reasoned with.
if you find someone whose fight-or-flight instinct isn't erroneously trigged by apple logos, then discuss with them. otherwise, leave /g/ to stomp around like the collective autist it is.
>mactard claims only mac has glass traskshit
>can't prove it
>>55280191
you seem to be taking philosophy 101 at your local community college, so i'll give you this in terms that might be relevant to you given that it's probably week 2 of summer session:
the macfag has made a claim that you interpret as "there are no other things like X". that may or may not be true, but the way anyone with a brain would respond to that statement would be to see if you can prove the negation instead. failing to prove the negation wouldn't mean that you've proven the claim, but it would certainly be a quick way to dismiss a macfag's claim if there were a glass trackpad that someone has considered as good as the trackpad macs use.
is any of this resonating with you? have you gotten to proving things with reason yet?
>>55279748
Windows Precision Trackpads are better than Apples new gimmicky force touch crap.
Same gesture responsiveness as Macbook trackpads but even less input lag.
>>55280252
you don't mean the trackpads in the surface keyboards, do you?
>>55280261
because burden of proof works the other way, you silly retard
>>55279781
>>55279931
>>55280072
>>55280095
>>55280106
>>55280118
>>55280131
>>55280142
>>55280149
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>>55280197
Why do mactoddlers have such trouble with simple tasks like using Google? Probooks/Elitebooks have had them for over half a decade.
>>55280270
Doesn't count.
>>55280269
>mactard doesn't even understand burden of proof
>wonders why the entire board calls them morons
>trackpad issues
>here's how to fix trackpad lag
so are you saying it's something other than the material that seems to be the deciding factor? that seems reasonable. synaptics is garbage.
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>>55280264
Yes I do. Made a quick and easy transition to my Pro 4 from my old Macbook Pro Retina.
Apple is really dropping the ball on OSX lately.
my hp dv7 has a plastic trackpad, its pretty good, it has 2 buttons on the bottom, but the thing can be used with out them, it supports tap to click, right click in this fashion as well, as well as gestures. they work well in windows and work really well in Linux.
>apple kiddies can't google
This is surprising why?
>>55280172
I'm on my XPS 13 2016 using Synaptics drivers and it works just fine.
>>55280284
dude you're embarrassing the rest of us. when someone makes a claim that X exists (like "other laptops that use glass trackpads exist"), the burden of proof falls on you to prove it.
demanding that macfags prove that nothing else uses a glass trackpad is like demanding that atheists prove there is no god. the easier, safer, and more rational argument is that, until you present evidence of existence, we should just assume fairies and gods don't exist.
i use a thinkpad as my daily driver but you fucking zealots are the most cancerous faggots in the universe.
>>55280071
>he never used one
>instead of answering posts an epic meme reaction pic
You sure showed me
Have you ever used one?
>>55280270
>>55280310
your post was good till you artistically mentioned your thinkpad.
>>55280310
Fuck off iPajeet.
>>55279843
>my first decent headphones were great, but now i have a eargasm headaudio philedition and its expectedly superb
>>55279854
>it "feels" way better, also the feature every modern os since 2006 has
Snake oil indeed.
>>55279748
it's windows, because windows is shit for user experience
>>55280312
>has no argument
>"you never used them!! you never used them!! you never used them!!"
Keep throwing that tantrum mactoddler.
>>55280301
Yeah, Microsoft really spared no expense with those trackpads
>>55280270
>>55280306
this desu senpai
What do people expect from the average mac user?
>>55280337
Holy shit what the hell?
>>55280345
hahaha epic lulz omg so f***ing burned bro!
>>55280337
>comparing a discontinued Pro 1 keyboard
Fuck off retard.
>>55280337
>>55280347
>omg a 12" tablet has a smaller touchpad than a 15.6" brick! wtffffff!!!!
>>55280361
That's not a touchpad, it's a fingerprint sensor.
>>55280281
Why not?
>>55280270
>mactards
>LITERALLY
>too
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>to
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>>55280361
The Surface Pro 4 has the same size trackpad as all Macbooks. Cunt is just being misleading, like all iShills.
>>55280347
Microsoft engineered a good trackpad and then decided that people who use mouse pointers are fucking degenerates, and they should be treated as such.
So the preferred way to use a Surface device is with a pen.
They gave me a Surface when I interned at MSR last year. I asked about this and whether the people in the hardware team would ever consider using a trackpoint instead, since this is exactly the use case trackpoint was designed for (limited space, high precision needs). The guy I talked to chuckled and said that "trackpoints are very divisive, so we probably won't use them".
Divisive in that they're loved by experts and hated by everyone else, I guess. And what's crazier is that a detachable keyboard is precisely the opportunity to manufacture some keyboards that use a trackpoint (license it from Lenovo if you have to, although really you shouldn't), but they're committed to driving a very specific use case at this point. Namely, one with a Surface pen.
>>55280197
Explain to me how do you breathe with only a single digit IQ? Nigga how the fuck do you not know how to google?
>>55280392
are you not reading the thread? we discussed logic and how burden of proof works like 4 times now. You need to read.
You need to get past your tantrum and read the thread.
>>55280382
They don't look the same size to me mate
>>55280361
>15.6"
>brick
found the beta manlet pajeet
>>55280399
>mactoddler defending not knowing how to google
eh no macfag but the force touch trackpad is pretty nice. i still prefer using a trackpoint though. less finger/wrist movement.
>>55279768
Those force touch trackpads feel like shit when you click tho senpai
>>55280382
the surface pro 4 was released last october. the surface pros leading up to it and the surfaces (and the surface RTs) all had way way smaller trackpads.
>>55280392
They have help from Apple. :^)
>>55280401
Maybe you're blind then.
>>55280399
you got rekt like thirty posts ago brah, nobody gives a shit about your pedantry when you're obviously objectively factually wrong.
>>55279748
who the fuck uses trackpads? their only use is doing basic setup without a mouse. kinda like IE is only used to download firefox.
>>55280405
dude i'm not going to hold your hand as you read the thread. just read quietly to yourself.
you need to learn patience. i'm sure you have a therapist and he's talked about this with you. control your impulses and listen (or in this case, read).
>>55280409
t. Never used one
>>55280417
I originally said Pro 4, so fuck off.
Surfaces only started using Precision trackpads since the Pro 3.
>>55280419
kek
>>55280421
>a dead on photo versus a picture from an extreme angle, and calling people blind for trusting the dead-on close up photo
... and you're accusing macfags of being misleading?
>>55280389
http://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-working-lenovo-trackpoint-like-pointing-stick-devices/
>>55280421
Is that a felt keyboard on the SP4? Is that standard? Looks so nice.
>>55280158
Honestly dude, just give him a link so you can stop debating about this.
>>55280430
>deflecting this hard
Nigga how do you even get on the internet? Do you need your mommy to turn on your computer and find 4chan for you on your facebook machine?
>>55280447
Yep, trackpad is glass though.
Feels like one of those expensive paper notebooks.
>>55280446
maybe they listened to me. that'd be (a little) surprising.
i'll believe it when i see a shipping product.
>>55280452
breathe kiddo. you'll calm down eventually. let us know when you're caught up with the thread.
seriously, stop looking for a hilarious reaction image. close the comment and get back to reading.
>mactoddlers can't figure out how to use google
>asspain and damage control all over the place
Good thread.
>>55280430
It's not about holding anyone's hand, it's about backing your shit up with proof.
Either you can provide it or you can't.
>>55280477
don't be so jelly androddler. mommy will buy you a macbook for your birthday if you're a good boy :^)
>>55280472
let us know when you get to >>55280270
that's where you get rekt iirc desu senpai
>>55280399
>mactoddler asserts only macs have glass touchpad
>claims burden is on others to prove otherwise instead of proving his own position
>>55279748
XPS 13 has a vastly superior trackpad.
>>55280270
Elitebooks have had glass touchpads since at least 2008. I would know since I had one.
I don't understand why apple trackpads are so coveted, I've used one before and it was like any other trackpad.
I'm not memeing here I'm legitimately curious.
>>55280508
>using the smiley with a carat nose
lenovo can make good trackpads if they actually try. The one on the x1 carbon is supposedly great.
>>55280310
It's just a matter of phrasing you twit.
>only macbooks have good glass trackpads
Then the burden of proof lies with the macfag doesn't it?
>>55280549
Because.
>>55280549
it's the little things m8. like safari on ios being the only mobile browser in existence that has swipe to navigate, the mouse that has gestures, stuff like that
>>55280564
>androddler fails to see that pajeet is using winXP
>>55280458
Looks like its from december 2015 though, so i guess they scrapped it.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-better-trackpoint/
relevant shit because they have annoying popups
>The patent lists the application date as December 2015, meaning that Microsoft may already be in the process of developing the TrackPoint technology for inclusion in a future Surface Book. This said, patent applications can precede actual application by many years, so there’s no saying when we might actually see the technology developed in use.
Either they decided against it or it will be on the surface book 3 i guess.
>>55280598
2 rupees have been deposited in your loo Panjeet.
>>55280615
nice try sanjeev. back to your click center.
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>>55279748
trackpad on my thinkpad is fantastic.
has buttons though, rather than the new age button-less things.
>>55280270
Party's over, everyone go home.
Every time I've tried to use a Mac the trackpad was a fucking stiff, unresponsive pile of shit. Stop lying, you fucking Apple shill, no one in their right mind buys your overpriced shit hardware.
>>55280713
have you tried washing the dorito dust and cum from your sausage fingers, androddler?
>>55280713
>Stop lying
>>55280730
Have you tried washing the shit from your shit wiping hands Rajeesh?
>>55280270
Absolutely destroyed.
>>55280765
never understood this apple pajeet meme tbqh. apple is struggling in india because they're poor.
>>55280810
Me neither. What's Apple's fascination with and hiring of Indians anyway?
>>55280730
>androddler
I don't even know what the fuck this is supposed to mean. Android user, maybe? LOL, all smartphones are shit, dumb toy-using baby.
>>55280839
Fuck off gramps.
>>55280421
How much are they paying you, my dude?
>>55281084
>those bezels
>>55280270
Damn son.
>>55280270
put me in screencap
>>55281197
I'll agree with you on that one.
>>55281084
>trackpad on a touchscreen
>>55280270
Oh wow
>>55281280
You've got the right idea. Maybe you should work at Apple.
>>55280409
This.
T. Old macfag
>>55280328
Congrats for admitting I'm right
>>55280270
Savage.
>>55279826
Nothing beats the responsiveness of a Mac touchpad. It's like they took a digitiser of a high end smartphone where as normal touchpads are laggy 2008 Android tier.
>>55281936
2 rupees have been deposited in your iTunes account Pradeep!
>>55281836
>Congrats for admitting I'm right
That's a first, right?
Nobody's ever said that to you before.
>>55281084
I can't believe how fucking small that trackpad is
Can you even move the height of the screen?
>>55279748
XPS 13 has a way better trackpad.
>>55282037
Ever since I left the city (You)
>>55279748
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>>55282058
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/xps-13-2015-fan-noise.770887/
>1. Fan Noise is the worst I have ever had on any laptop. CPU temps at 50 % load is 80 C ++. Fan spins up and down every 5-10 sec under load and the fan noise itself sound metallic. Really really bad.
>2. Battery life is supposed to be 10+ hrs with my spec. According to Windows I have 4,2 hrs at 100 % battery. Not even 50 % of what Dell claims.
>I agree, I was in a meeting yesterday and was embarrassed at how loud it was. Really annoying that all the reviews I read before buying if anything said it was a very quiet laptop.
Ffs lads
>>55282071
Fuck off with those cherrypicked articles, iShill.
For every bad XPS 13 report, there's 1000 bad Mac reports.
>>55282084
First result for XPS 13 fan
>>55282088
All results for Macbook fan
>>55282132
#REKT
>>55282132
Tip top kek
>>55280409
I use one regularly and I wouldn't say it's at all shit. Feels almost exactly the same as a regular trackpad.
>>55282817
Really bad for ergonomics though, you're expecting a physical click but your wrist is just taking the brunt of the force. Also the simulated click even on Firm setting is nowhere near as satisfying as a real physical click.
>>55279880
> Near upper edge
Oh look the faggot is using the old Apple trackpad
>>55279880
Can we put an end to this copypasta already?
>>55280270
HAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT
>>55280270
>ForcePad
Applel innovation
>>55279748
>OEMS still haven't cought up with apple's trackpad
The trackpad software is built into the kernel. If you don't realize that this is a dumb fuck idea then you can look up the Windows scrollbar kernel exploit.
The trackpad hardware is tightly integrated into the device. The piece of shit Macbook won't even boot if there's an issue with the trackpad. If you don't realize why this is retarded then you're a dumb fuck.
I hope OEM trackpads never coughtcth up to Macshit's trackpads.
>>55281305
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