>Just as Justice Breyer wrote in concurrence that a police officer who peers through broken blinds does not violate anyone's Fourth Amendment rights, jd. at 103 (Breyer, J., concurring), FBI agents who exploit a vulnerability in an online network do not violate the Fourth Amendment. Just as the area into which the officer in Carter peered—an apartment—usually is afforded Fourth Amendment protection, a computer afforded Fourth Amendment protection in other circumstances is not protected from Government actors who take advantage of an easily broken system to peer into a user's computer. People who traverse the Internet ordinarily understand the risk associated with doing so. Thus, the deployment of the NIT to capture identifying information found on Defendant's computer does not represent a search under the Fourth Amendment, and no warrant was needed.
>Here, the balance weighs heavily in favor of surveillance. The Government should be able to use the most advanced technological means to overcome criminal activity that is conducted in secret, and Defendant should not be rewarded for allegedly obtaining contraband through his virtual travel through interstate and foreign commerce on a Tor hidden service.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/fbis-use-of-tor-exploit-is-like-peering-through-broken-blinds/
Is it time to panic yet?
>>55245158
Fuck off you degenerate weaboo fuck, I hope you get arrested for hoarding loli and cp.
This is what you get for voting Trump
>>55245158
>Is it time to panic yet?
Only if you live in the land of the "free".
>>55245436
The US presidential elections haven't happened yet. Things are going to get worse.
>>55245158
Enjoy your anime you shitposter
>>55245158
Tor updated the way they anonymise you anyway, with Selfrando. Learn to research, you piece of shit.
I don't live in the US, so I don't care.
Get cucked, americunt.
Discovering the american continent was a mistake
>>55245504
But if not for that all the freedumbs would still be here instead of at a respectable distance.
>>55245482
That doesn't change how the police in the US no longer need a warrant to hack computers.
At least we still have guns
>>55245538
It does however make it far harder for them to snoop on your Tor traffic.
>>55245464
Do you have the rest of these?
>>55245158
I assume it works backwards too right?
>>55245607
HACK THE NSA!!!!!!!!!!!!! WEWWWWWWWWW NO RULESSSSSSSSS 420 BLAZE IT LOIC THAT NIGGAAAAAAAAAAA
>>55245557
A lot of good that does you when this allows the NSA to start autopwning anyone for any reason, which they already had ability to do under their Turbine program but weren't legally allowed to do on US soil.
>>55245158
We /fullcyber/ nao
>>55245607
No you stupid goy, don't you know that all government property is top-secret copyrighted intellectual information? Nobody told you that any theft of government property will result in the immediate destruction of the offending storage device?
>>55245553
which will never be used to oust your corrupt as fuck government... so what use are they exactly?
Why does the NSA monitor Germany so much?
>>55245743
Having fun without being spied on and having the government potentially destroy your property.
>>55245158
>Just as the area into which the officer in Carter peered—an apartment—usually is afforded Fourth Amendment protection, a computer afforded Fourth Amendment protection in other circumstances is not protected from Government actors who take advantage of an easily broken system to peer into a user's computer.
>easily broken
That sounds dangerously close to saying because someone used a cheap lock to keep a box closed it was not a violation of the owner's rights to break it open.
This should be pretty easy to overturn in appeals but it is not unusual for courts to come up with some twisted logic to provide for police to compromise civil privacy rights.
>>55245751
>Israeli surveillance done
Pure coincidence
>using google news
>complain about muh privacy
That link is depricated anon. A few other courts have overturned that evidence. As far as I can tell, there will be a circuit split on the issue for a few years.
The other courts said that a warrant is required, which they got, but that they needed a warrant from each district that the searches were conducted in. Magistrates are limited to issuing warrants within their district, so the sweeping warrant they got from a Virginia magistrate was invalid.
This rule has since been changed to allow multi-district warrants for comouter crimes.
>>55245501
You do know that non-Americans get ducked even worse, right? Dumbass
What about the part where the FBI actually distributed child pornography over TOR themselves?
>>55245885
That's nothing new. They ran carding websites before. The case in OP is one of many decisions in this case, there were roughly 100 people arrested in this case. Of the cases that have been adjudicated, the general consensus is that a warrant is required AND the warrant they got wad invalid.
That'll get appealed and overruled by higher court, what a joke of a judge.
This is really depressing, the fight for Freedom is practically over. Facebook, Microsoft this is all avoidable. But this is just too much ... other cases will use the judges verdict as an backboard and anyone that even tries to cover their asses will be get hawked eyed by the NSA and the FBI. I don't want to live in this world, I don't want to give up my freedom guys...
>>55245855
Nope, not here in Brazil.
>>55245932
>NSA
Meh, those faggots don't really have time for you. It's the FBI who is in a power struggle right now, trying to throw their weight around and grab whatever unlawful abilities they can.
Good, the government should do this to keep us safe from criminals. Only a pedophile would oppose this.
>>55245158
>FBI doesn't need a warrant to hack computers
welp. i guess they don't have a warrant to plant evidence either
>>55245994
>the NSA doesn't have time for you
The NSA databases are freely shared with FBI and local law enforcement. Don't think for a minute that you are too small to be noticed by the surveillance state.
>>55245994
>the NSA doesn't have time for you
That might have been an argument years ago, but not anymore given the insane levels of passive untargeted data collection scooping up everything from internet history to text messages to cell phone location data and their autohacking software that doesn't even require a man in the loop that under this ruling they are now allowed to use in the US combined with how they share all of the data they collect with all other federal agencies as of earlier this year.
>>55245169
>loli
>illegal
choose one
>>55247637
>Bolshevik Bernie wouldnt do the same
I don't know if you've noticed but Bernie and Rand were the only candidates from either major party to stand up against government spying in the US, so no Bernie wouldn't do the same.
>>55247742
Bernie explicitly stated he wouldn't pardon Snowden.
The Surveillance state is too strong for anyone to stand up to. The Snowden revelations forced companies to increase use of encryption, but we are in a worse place now than we were 3 years ago. CISA passed, the Patriot Act was renewed, and the repeal of 215 really only paid lip service to reform.
The chinks are going to have to dump our governments databases on private citizens before anything will happen.
>>55245807
I hope this post is truth.
>>55247775
>TRIGGERED
>>55247894
It is. Thusfar, only district courts have ruled on it. Here is the other ruling: https://threatpost.com/judge-tosses-evidence-gathered-by-fbis-tor-exploit/118339/
With such a high-profile case, it will undoubtedly be appealed and reviewed by every federal appellate court.
This new interpretation that the FBI running a multi-million dollar exploit is akin the government looking in the blinds, is patently absurd. I doubt it would hold up on appeal.
>>55245504
How do you discover something people already know of?
>>55245553
Ha not for long :^)
>>55245158
The interstate commerce clause was a mistake
Texexit when?
>>55245994
in 10 years they'll have a FUCKING AI that'll put you on a watchlist faster than you can say "first amendment"
> hacking is illegal
so when does the FBI go to jail?
>>55247744
>go to Eastern Yurop
>no refugees
>everything cheap due to low wages
>government too corrupt to give a shit about you
>fast internet
come here, senpai
>>55245553
>>>/mlp/
Horse fucker
>>55249033
Texit
>>55249756
It is really akin to them picking a lock. Such activity is criminal in normal circumstances, but if tge cops have a warrant for the content of tge computer there's no reason they shouldn't be able to.
>>55245158
Aren't they breaking the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act by hacking into my computer?
That isn't peering through broken blinds, that's smashing the fucking window to see what's behind the blinds more clearly.
The government doesn't need a warrant to do anything. They can do whatever they want, and are protected from retribution by sovereign immunity. If you can't punish someone, there is no use in having a law... except for one small catch. Because it is illegal for any individual to access a network, or a computer, with which one does not have permission to access -- a felony even -- any evidence obtained by this manner is inadmissible in a court of law.
Even if you ignore the constitution entirely, the plain fact of the matter is that if you commit a felony in order to obtain evidence, you cannot use that evidence in a court of law.
>>55245584
Not him, but I've got a couple of them.
>>55250245
>>55245584
I think I have HapCon 2, but not
>>55245158
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Note that this was a district court judge (that appears to not be familiar with the 4th amendment or how the internet works). It will be appealed.
>>55250254
>>55250245
>>55245584
Can't find 2, must've saved it to the wrong directory. Don't think I've ever saved 1.
>smash someone's window and break their blinds
>hurr it's okay to look in now since their blinds are broken
>>55250289
>It will be appealed.
>he actually believes this.
>>55250378
You have no idea how the judicial system works, do you?
>>55250387
>I'm a cuck and proud to be cuck!
What did he mean by this, /g/?
>>55250402
Underage B&
>>55247744
>go to nipponland
>lower sales tax than USA and EU (for now) when buying goods
>cheap gigabit internets
>gubmint does not care about your fetish shit
>best place in the world for Apple Appstore users since it allows legit R18 stuff.
There is no other choice
>it's perfectly fine if I somehow get in to your house without breaking the door or windows in order to look for anything that could be incriminating
>>55250254
>>55250461
>gubmint does not care about your fetish shit
Except they literally censored anything minimally sexual.
>>55251182
>>55245584
>>55250245
You can find the rest of the hapcon here
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/doom-paul-its-happening/photos
>>55249985
Oh fuck
Didn't even realize that is what it is
>>55247476
It will be with trump, degenerate pedos like you belong in jail.
>>55251580
alt right is degeneracy at it peak. trump is a reality tv sleeze merchant and jewish. you think hes not degenerate??? he goes to the same synagogue as the lehman brothers in nyc.
>>55245751
Most likely industrial espionage. A German firm has accused the US of stealing their tech and transferring this to their US competitors. See for instance the Enercon case.
>>55251182
I think we're still somewhere in between Hapcon 4 and 3
>>55249689
I don't get it. Why put you on a watchlist when it is far more cost effective to arrange an accident for you?
>>55245158
>peers through broken blinds
OK; so if a peeping tom uses broken blinds, is he then OK with US laws?
t. Confused European
>>55251580
If you unironically support putting people who download loli (and not CP) in jail, you are an idiot. This is a fact.
>>55251749
If he is a "Government actor", then yes.
>>55251646
The alt right is a joke. They have no political power or influence of any kind yet think they're changing the world with memes and shitposting. They also think stuff like female ghostbusters is serious world changing events that need to be heard.
>>55250291
Found it
Haven't read the whole thread, but by this logic hackers exploiting preexisting vulnerabilities should be punished with the same severity as someone peering into their neighbor's house. By the government's own admission. Though the comparison to looking into a window is fallacious because windows are left open intentionally. No one intentionally leaves exploits in their websites
>>55245158
just dont use proprietary software / hardware
