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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --

>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Noise isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
If you dislike a suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, x sucks"

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Last Thread: >>55197967
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>audiophiles are autistic
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>>55244186
0/kek
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is the sony UDA 1 a good amp/dac and why or why not?
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reposting from old bread

>Budget
50 dollars
>Location
South-Africa
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Very important cause I'm gonna wear them alot
>Preferred tonal balance
dunno
>Preferred music
Electronic, Rock, Rap
>Past headphones
All of them were dogshit gaymin headsets. Last one I had literally just broke (Logitech G430, it was shit)

so yes im a fag and after years of taking it up the ass from gaymin i want to convert.

Also, how good is the neewer clip on mic compared to headset mics? As long as there isn't too much noise it won't be a problem.
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>>55244567
>South-Africa
This makes it kind of difficult. Perhaps you can find some Koss Portapros?
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What are some decent wireless headphones?

Looking at the jaybirds right now.
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I passed on an mdr-cd900st for 80USD used good condition

did I fuck up? Are they noticeably worth it over mdr-v6?
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>Budget
200 dollars
>Location
Sweden
>Source
PC and Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
I think I am fine with whatever, I have never worn a pair of relatively high quality headphones and found them uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
No idea
>Preferred music
Electronic, Jass, Funk
>Past headphones
Hyper X cloud II and some turtleneck headphones

Coped the questions from South African brother.

I have had headsets for gaming and a pair of on ear marshalls in the past, I don't care for a microphone or anything like that.


Sorry about the headset request but I don't really know where else to turn considering I'm not that experienced.
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>>55245162
Oh and I would also really appreciate some reccomendations for good earbuds for the same purpose and price range - thanks famalam
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>>55244146
>Budget
$30-70
>Location
Australia
>Preferred type of headphone
Surround Sound (not 7 speaker surround sound)
USB attachment
>Comfort level
Gaming for 11 hours+
>Preferred music
Bossa Nova, Jazz,
>Past headphones
Plantronic Gamecon 780 - Cord Broke After 6 months and one ear thing snapped off.
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>>55245392
It does not have to have virtual surround sound.

5.1 is fine
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>>55245162
HD598
MA750

>>55245392
>USB attachment
That means a cheap crappy DAC. Don't do that.
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>>55245392
>Surround Sound
>USB attachment

Avoid any headphones that have that because it means they are pure shit.
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>>55245630
I was actually looking into the Hd598, I'll check out Ma750 too, thanks anon
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>>55244146
>>55244146
>Budget
250 USD
>Location
United States
>Source
PC -> ODAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized Over Ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter too much
>Preferred tonal balance
preferably flat
>Preferred music
vocal, folk, rock, indie
>Past headphones
Audio-Technica MSR7's and Audio Technica AD700x

The AD700x's really sold me on the open backed headphones meme, and now I want to try something better. That's why I'm requesting.
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>>55245668
Okay okay i just remembered i needed a USB attachment cause i snapped my headphone jack.

So scratch the USB, i don't NEED surround sound.

So what would be the best
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>>55245830
You might look to see if you can get something like a HiFiMeDIY Sabre.
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>>55245830
forgot to add i got a new mobo so i can use jack
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>>55245893
see>>55246010
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>>55246084
>>55246010
You have no USB connections?
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>>55246104
No, i got a new 3.5mm headphone jack (new mobo)
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>>55246116
So you don't need a USB attachment cause the headphone jack you snapped has been replaced as part of a new mobo?
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>>55246162
I see how i have confused you.

So i fell off my chair (lol) and snapped the green headphone input.

I thought USB was better, bu you corrected me on that.

So what's a good headset that has a Headphone jacs, 30 - 70 bucks and has a microphone
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>>55246221
Fuck i think i have Alzheimer's.

Ok i bought a new mother board. So now i can buy a headest with a different attachment
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>>55246234
>headsets are frowned on
Generally those are crap "gamer" sets that you pay extra for and sound worse than comparable headphones. It is recommended to buy separate headphone.
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>>55246249
Oh so i should buy one of those dildo microphones?

Just to let you know I don't use heapdhones while listening to music. Cause you look like douche.

I actually go outside quite a bit. And god, my olf bf used to wear headphones in public, was really dorky and embarrassed me.
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>>55246296
Use headphones at home and IEMs for outdoors.
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>>55246330
Yeah but what about a microphone inside
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>>55246349
There are lots of desktop mikes to choose from. Or if you have to have something attached to the headphones you can modmic or get a clip on.
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>>55246349
if you want to pay 1$, just buy a cheap lapel mic.

if you want to pay 20-30$ go the /csg/ way and buy a Chinese condenser mic with a stand and a cheap usb soundcard.
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>>55246366
>>55246374
But why do i need an external mic. Do they need to hear my voice so clearly.
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>>55246386
Do you have Alzheimer? It was partially touched on in >>55246249
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what is the closed ear equivalent of the hd600?
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>>55246422
Is there not a decent headset with a microphone attached to it
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>>55246438
>decent
>headset
Pick one.
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>>55246442
headset
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>>55246438
No.

All headsets have mics with the same quality as a 1$ lapel mic because people who buy them don't care about sound quality.

The headphone part also sound like shit because again, people who buy them don't care about sound quality.
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>>55246461
Ok but because i have alzhemirs. Or hopefully a form of autism.

Do you think i'm smart enough to clip it on without breaking it
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Dumb question incoming.

I have some rather inexpensive headphones (http://shop.panasonic.com/audio-and-video/headphones/premium-studio-headphones/RP-HTF600-S.html) and they seem to almost have an echo quality, as though sound is being played in a large room. My more portable earbuds don't share this quality. Is there a name for what I'm experiencing?
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>>55246438
You're asking in the wrong place. Remember that audiophiles are autistic, and they don't understand why you would be willing to sacrifice some amount of quality for another convenience.
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>>55246527
>why you would be willing to sacrifice the entire point of personal audio for another convenience.
FTFY
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>>55246527
I knew they were autistic buying vinyl ad shit. But this is a new kind of autism
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What's the best closed set of portable basshead headphones out there for under $200US?
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>>55246825
>portable
Well, it's a bit of stretch but the DT770 maybe the cans for you.
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>>55246457
Hyper Cloud X. Not the Cloud X two. It is the least worst of a bad choice.
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Hey guys i listen to alot of classical and metul, what are some good headphones for both? Also my brother got some sennheiser 598s, what do you think of that? And in this chart the dt770pro is near the 598s price, what are your thoughts on those and how do they compare to the sennheisers?

Sorry for all the questions
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>>55246874
>Hyper Cloud X

92 AUD

no thanks
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>>55246938
If you are only interested in cheap crap why bother asking for purchasing advice?
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>>55246907
A neutral headphone would probably be best for multiple genres. 598s are pretty good. Super comfy and good sound quality. Lower end is lacking though.
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>>55247139
So i can purchase the best cheap crap, duh
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>>55247316
Let's set this out plain so any idiot with more than three brain cells can understand it.

You are asking people who suggest against buying crap in the hopes that they are hypocrites and are buying crap?
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>>55247351
I never said that.

I just said i don't want gear that an obese pimply man would use
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>>55247376
>I never said that.
Why do you have to explicitly say it? Isn't that essentially what you are doing?
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>>55247420
Nah cunt
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>>55247524
Are you just saying that because you don't want to look like an idiot if only to yourself or can you provide a plausible alternative explanation for what you are doing?
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>>55247542
requesting headphones
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>>55247582
Are you lying now or were you lying when you said "headset" when given a choice between "decent" and "headset?"

>inb4imadifferentposter
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>>55247614
Well no one ever recommended me anything, so i went with what i have used.
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>>55247642
>no one ever recommended me anything
Regardless of your justification (which is also a lie as someone suggested the Cloud X) if you are going to lie why should anyone bother reading anything you write?
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>>55246907

This infographic needs some updating.

At the very least, I'm pretty sure that most will agree that we can swap the M50 for the M40X.
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>Budget
120 dollars
>Location
Hungary
>Source
Desktop Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
pretty important since id wear it 40% of my free time.
>Tonal balance
neutral-bright
>Preferred music
Chiptune,Vaporwave,DnB
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-10RNC
>inb4 hang yourself
I won a stupid bet and my friend gave it to me since he had 0 money
its not bad but holy shit not worth the price. The pads, while comfortable they are falling apart because there are too much foam in them. The noise cancelling is not bad but not that important for me
pls help
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>>55244146
>-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
seriously? please do not promote this as a consumer advice board with this style of posting
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>Budget
$50
>Location
Brazil
>Source
Computer.

>Preferred type of headphone
Full.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Moderate.
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
Neutral.
>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681.
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>>55248087
Got anything like the XPT100 in your neck of the world?
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>>55248133
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>>55248137
MDR V6?
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>>55248144
No but ordering from amazon/ebay is an option for me. Is it not recommended or what?
is it usable without an amp?

>>55248133
these are one of the few threads that are actually arent mindless shitposting anon
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>>55248222
I think suggesting that this board doesn't devolve further into /b/ and /v/'s personal shopping advice on demand blog is considered a constructive post that aids in the betterment of a community
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>>55248137
> BR
> 50$
Can you even buy anything with that money? I thought BR monkeys had insane taxes on anything imported
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>>55248222
>No but ordering from amazon/ebay is an option for me
That should be fine.

>is it usable without an amp?
I believe so. It's been a while since I last had one and all my sources tend to be pretty powerful (Cowon DAP, Samsung phone or an AVR).
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>>55248272
No, I can't.

And I didn't specify the currency.
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>>55248161
Are you crazy? This headphone is almost $100.
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>>55247710
Yeah but that was one, that costed more then my budget. so....

I don't even understand why you are arguing with me over such a small thing. Like i honestly don't really care that you don't like what i am saying
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>>55248616
https://www.wireless1.com.au/kingston-hyperx-cloud-core-gaming-headset-khx-hscc-bk-fr
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>>55248616
I posted that link above.
You probably pondered for hours on end and I took 5 mins of my time to link you that.
I'm not that anon that you were talking to but man you're making Aussies look like shitposters.
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This triggers me.
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>>55248738
Aussies are shit posters though.

Pondered for hours for what out come?
Was i?
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>>55246436
>closed ear equivalent of the hd600
IT"S BEEN ANSWERED Look in the last thread.
The answer is Fostex T40RP
And following in 2nd and 3rd are Beyerdynamic DT250 and Audio Technica MSR7.
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Can anyone comment on the K553 Pros?
At $119 on Massdrop, it's not too shabby of a price...

Coming from Sennehiser 558's if that makes a difference. Not necessarily looking for a replacement (I know the 553's are closed) I just want something close back, under $200 that aren't shit.
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>>55248845
>Pondered for hours for what out come?
I don't fucking know.
I'm not that anon you were talking to hours ago.
>Was i?
Pic related.
You were previously posting too many times long enough.
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>>55246907
1) HD558 is cheaper than and it can easily modded into a HD598
2) no reason to tell people that DT880's availability in different impedances is an advantage, when everyone knows that the DT880 600 Ohm is the best model and it's the only DT880 model which is worth buying.
3) K702 doesn't absolutely need an amp more than what a DT880 600 ohm does. K702 can be easily driven thtough cheap amps, unlike the DT880 600 Ohms and more high-end stuff.
4) K702 doesn't lack bass.
5) K612 is missing in the sub-200$ cathegory.
6) HD600 is better and cheaper than the HD650.
This said, the DT770 is V-shaped (lot of bass and treble, recessed mids) whereas HD598 is certainly more neutral. HD598 is open, while DT770 is closed. Do you need isolation from outside noises or do you mean to use headphones in public spaces? If the answer to these questions is no, then you'd better get an open heapdhone. HD598 is good, but I'd recommend either a HD558 or a K612.
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>>55248784
That gummage, though.
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>>55248925
Own the K550's
I find them kinda boring personally, since they're pretty neutral and dull. I prefer more bassy headphones, but I must admit they're great for watching movies and videogames, so that's where they get the most use from me.
If you like neutral sounding headphones I guess they're okay. Can't go wrong for 120 bucks
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>>55248940
>>55248940
Why
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>>55249024
Why what? I just came into this thread 30 mins ago. Then I had a browse through. Then I saw this argument between you and this person giving you shit. Then I had a look at any local online stores for that Hyper Cloud headphone.

I have no idea what you're trying to shitpost to me about. I'm also Australian. What the fuck do you want from me?
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>>55246495
Soundstage.

It's the effect of having the headphones sound like the music is coming from outside your head, rather than inside it. Wider, deeper, with more distance between instruments. IEM's sound like the music is coming from right inside your head.
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>>55246907
The dt770 is a closed headphone with more bass and treble than necessary, so it's used for things like drummers who like to hear that sort of sound because it emphasises their instrument in the recording.

HD598's are neutral, meaning no one frequency is overly emphasised compared to another. This makes them great for things like classical or jazz where you want to hear music how it was intended.

Not to mention the "hd558 is a cheaper 598 lol sennshills" meme.
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>>55245792

Used HD600 or new K702
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>>55245392
Just buy a pair of sennheiser hd201's and a zalman zm-mic1 from pccasegear
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>>55248925

there are a little v-shaped but has isolating problems from head to head, for closed they are excelent
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>>55249205
Sorry to be picky, but is there one with one cord coming out just one side, not both?
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Stax 2170 .
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>Budget
about 50€
>Location
Italy
>Source
PC, phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
don't really crae unless they make me bleed or something
>Preferred music
Progressive/Power metal
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX300
Soundmagic e10 just bit the dust
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I'm looking to get rid of my old gaming headset which served me well, but I'd really like to upgrade for a better sound quality.
I did some research and I found the Samson SR850C, but I'm a bit worried about the open back part. I never had an open headphone before and I'm afraid the sound leak would be a bit too much.
I'm also looking for a microphone. I heard Modmic are okay but they are expensive. I'd say I have an overall budget of 70€.
If someone can help out, that would be great, thanks.
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>>55250098
HyperX Cloud I is the best gaming headset. Get it.
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>>55250128
I dont think I want to buy a gaming headset again, I feel like I'm paying too much for low quality. Maybe I'm wrong, and in this case I'll look into it.
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>>55250154
HyperX Cloud is badically a rebranded Tascam with detachable mic and mpre accessories. It's a good closed headphone and the mic isn't as bad as mics of other headsets. You couldn't find a headphone and a detachable mic with your budget btw.
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>>55250181
Ok thank you. It actually looks very okay.
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>>55250181
*Takstar Pro 80 or Gemini HSR-1000
Um mistype. Corrected it. not Tascam.
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What are some headphones like the sennheiser hd201. But only has one cord coming out of the left or right
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>>55248133
We are regulating the problem of "mindless consumer advice" board by the template. There's no way to get rid of the questions about products and there's no need to either as a lot of interest for technology does revolve around them. People want to know what to buy and without a simple template, we'd have these threads and possibly the catalog full of "which of these headphones should I buy" -kind of questions which rarely get you anywhere and cause a lot more useless shitposting and thread/catalog clutter. These threads and the wiki we have also provide you with help and knowledge to actually make decisions yourself and understand these products as well as audio in general better. You can't expect everyone who wants to buy a pair of headphones to do all research by themselves.

>>55246438
There are some decent headsets, starting from HyperX Cloud. Mic quality on these is often crap but the headphones can be quite good.
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>>55250098
Heard good things about that samson set.

>>55249513
beyerdynamic dt235 is another good option
check out storedj
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>>55250336
Okay, one more question.

Is the clip on zalman mic good enough so people wont tell me o turn my mic off in-game
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>>55250534
It's okay, but it's not as good as say the $50 audio technica mic they have.
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What is a good clip-on mic that can clip onto my shirt.

I want a mic specifically for gaming so it can't be omnidirectional
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>>55244718
We got a lot of stores here, so it shouldnt be th at difficult. I have the opportunity to pick up a Samson SR850 for pretty cheap. Is it worth?
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>Budget
300 yuros
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC, phone
Considering to get a FiiO
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized, still would be nice if you had any inear recs
>Open or closed
I'd probably prefer open
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter that much
>Preferred tonal balance
flat
>Preferred music
Jazz, Rock
Been listening to a lot of electronic and Rap lately
>Past headphones
Some cheapo headphones, current are Philips Fidelio L2
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>>55250834
Mentioned earlier in this thread: zalman zm-mic1
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>>55251131
Amazing quality. But I have a lot of background sound. Oh well it's only $15 if I don't like it I'll just sell it
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Is Audio Technica ATH-M20x worth the price?
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>>55244146
I fucking love the hd600's. This is my endgame, i've spent too much already.
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>>55244776
>I didn't read the sticky
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What does /hpg/ think about the Beyerdynamic T1?
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>>55254102
Overpriced and worse DT880 600 Ohm.
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>>55254102
Like a Senn HD 650/ATH-R70X + 9-10 kHz spike. Maybe a bit more midbassy/low treble recessed.
I don't care for it. Some people like it, it doesn't have a generally favorable reception here or in other forums. That does make it easier to pick one up for a lower price, especially used mk1.

>>55249623
ATH-IM50 is one option.

>>55248925
I recommend against the K550 and its variants, no matter what your preference is. The DT770 covers that headphone better with a similar signature.
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>>55248984
Yeah, I'm looking for neutral, bassy is nice, but I don't like drowning out highs. I hear they get better after break in though.

>>55254252
80Ohm or 250?

Source is a Schitt Fulla USB DAC/Amp or my Note 5
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>>55254437
Both K550 variants and DT770 are (or at least ought to be) fairly V-shaped. Bass drowning out highs is not too likely to happen.
Closed headphones in general have problems with bass loss from leak, the K550 is especially bad at it, and the pads don't help that. Getting a tight fit is fairly difficult. K550 treble is somewhat unstable, which also frustrates precision EQ again.

Impedance doesn't matter if we're just looking for the signature, so pick the 80 ohm or lower impedance model as price and availability dictate.
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Hd700 or Hd630vb?
I know apples and oranges but hd800 are too expensive.
I kinda want to experience poor mans 800's but in the same time I want to feel the drums in metal.
I could get 800's for 750€ without amp which I don't have.
380€ for 700 and 630.
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>>55254855
Why those models? Can't recommend either one of those Sennheisers.
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>>55254936
I have always used sennheiser.
You got something else in mind?
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>>55254959
There's really no reason to pay any attention to a brand. HD 700 and HD 630VB have two things in common: brand and high price, both of which are rather meaningless bits of information when making a purchase. The template in the OP would help as it focuses on the important.
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>>55255058
>Budget
About 500€
>Location
Finland
>Source
PC and Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Important of course
>Preferred tonal balance
None
>Preferred music
Rock/metal/ rarely electronic
>Past headphones
Sennheisers, hd202, Pc350, mx585
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>>55248865
>Fostex T40RP
got any graphs of this?
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>>55255293
Nevermind, I found it on InnerFidelity.

The distortion values look horrible.

So it's down to the MSR7 vs DT250.

What do?
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>>55255195

if you are willing to spend all that money buy 2 sets since hardly an 500 dollar headphone will be portable, i would recommend to buy if you like neutral signature an k702 if you dont have the DAC and E10k, if you have the DAC then an HD600 and for portable the msr7 maybe is inside your budget
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>>55255195
Plenty of options given your budget and with no preference to tonal balance or open/closed nature. Fidelio X2 would be an easy rec. It's a bassy open back headphone with a high treble peak. It's universally quite comfortable, has good build quality and it's easy to drive with basically any device from phones to PCs. Alternatively an HD 600 with an amplifier. Even if you add the amp it fits the budget and would be my personal choice within it.DT 880 from Beyerdynamic or possibly AKG K702 are solid choices too. All of these are open back full sized headphones and only X2 is guaranteed to get loud enough without an amplifier. That might save you some money but it might not be the most enjoyable sound signature.
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>>55255293
I own the hd600's and I used to own the t50rp's (semi open), funnily I think the hd600's are a better version of the t50rp, although they're still good.
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>I have:

Philips SHP 2000

>I'm thinking of buying:

Sennheiser HD201 (39dol here)

>Budget:

50usd

The Philips sound ok (for budget headphones), I'm mostly looking for something that sounds slightly better but my main interest is comfort, the current ones are feeling pretty uncomfortable right now.
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>>55254855
Why.

Why HD700? I own both HD600 and HD800 and I would pick the HD600 if I wanted great vocals.
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thoughts on the ISK HD-9999? how are they compared to other 80$ headphones?
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>>55255514
>>55255604
Ah my bad, I'm not looking for portable cans. When I go running or lifting etc I use my mx's.
Only requirement is that they fit in my luggage, that shouldnt be a problem even with hd800's, and if it turns out to be a problem I'll get a new bag.
My pc can handle 150ohms no problem right now, I don't remember what model the sound card is.
I also will be using ux501vw as another source for music which is yet to arrive. I don't know what it can handle, that is all mobility I need.
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>>55255785
Because newer must be better right?
I haven't been able to test any of them yet and I'm open to suggestions.
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>>55255859
Ohms aren't a spec worth knowing. "Handling 150 Ohms" doesn't actually mean anything.

>>55255904
>Because newer must be better right?
Definitely now how consumer audio products work.
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>>55249124
Interesting. I dislike it, but I wonder if that's just because I'm not used to it.
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>>55249124
>>55256026
>closed headphones
yeah ignore that retard, i don't know what this 'echo' is you're hearing but it's not headstage.
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>>55255925
>Ohms aren't a spec worth knowing
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you won't get hearable sound out of your 600Ohm T1's if you plug them to your phone?..

And by looking other reviews almost all prefer 700's on presonal prefrence and tech is superior on every level. Explain yourself please.
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>>55256072
you are wrong. voltage sensitivity is the main spec you'd be looking for. high impedance headphones are an easier load on an amp as they take less current

>And by looking other reviews almost all prefer 700's on presonal prefrence and tech is superior on every level
i really hope you don't mean the hd700, i couldn't be bothered looking through the reply chain but the HD700 are among the worst products sennheiser have released.
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>>55256055
Well, echo isn't the proper word for it, but I don't really know how to describe it. It's as though there's a great emptiness that sound is screaming into.

Though on reflection this may just be because they're over ear headphones and there is in fact no other sound to be heard.
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>>55256167
it could be that, it could also be cup reflections doing funky things
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>>55256182
Cup reflections?
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>>55256203
the sound coming out the rear of the driver bouncing back at you from the cup of the closed headphones.

open headphones sound more natural because this doesn't happen.
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>>55256072
T1 is a good example of a headphone which has high impedance but moderate sensitivity. They'll be just fine from a phone, maybe a bit on the quiet side. Their sensitivity is about the same as the roughly 60 Ohm AKG K702 despite the ten fold higher impedance.

In short, impedance tells the resistance to current but doesn't tell anything about how much current is required to achieve a certain SPL and this is where you see large differences among different kinds transducers. Impedance function is of some interest, impedance as a nominal value not so much. While we can generalize high impedance headphones often being on a lower side of sensitivity, there are exceptions to this rule and plenty of low impedance headphones which are extremely low on sensitivity.

As for the HD 700, there is an enormous amount of crap written about "audiophile" products. The more niche they get, the harder it is to find reliable information about them. I've heard the HD 700 if you think that has any value. I also own the HD 800 and I've heard and owned plenty of other headphones. I think this is a case where a simple frequency response graph tells you everything. HD 700 has a very large high treble peak which sounds piercing and the recess in the "presence" region(1-4 KHz) before the treble makes it sound distant/veiled. It wasn't enjoyable, it isn't accurate. They were however superbly comfortable. Some like to compare HD 800 to them and while they both have a treble peak and a recess before it, HD 700's coloration is much more pronounced and thus worse, imo. I fix those problem parts with EQ when using the HD 800 due to how fatiguing the sound is if I don't.

I just find it hard to recommend HD 700 to anyone when plenty of headphones with subjectively so much better sound exist for much lower price points. In my mind, HD 700 is much worse than Sennheiser's more affordable open back headphones such as the HD 558. If you really want the HD 700, audition and compare it in a store.
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>>55244146
How to I convince my autistic brother not to buy solo HD?
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>>55256584
solo2 is better than the m50x
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>>55256628
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>>55256660
feel free to prove me wrong, all measurements suggest they are and to me they sounded much better
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>>55256675
Not falling for this meme again friendo
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>>55256714
it's not exactly a feat to be better than the m50x, if anything it's pretty standard considering how bad the m50x reddit memephones are

not sure what's so unbelievable about it unless you really are a gullible redditor
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>>55244146
artist?
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>>55255667
Its hard to find cheap comfy headphones.

Is the Creative Aurvana Live! within your price range?
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>>55256748
I already fell for the SS + GOMAD is a meme is a meme meme, so im not letting you double switcheroo meme me again :^(

>Im getting Sennheiser momentum instead
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>>55256904
>SS + GOMAD
kek enjoy getting fat w/nogains

not even noobgains can save you
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>>55256912
I told you I fell for it, but switched to slow clean bulk&5/3/1. Gainz have been rolling in from every window
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>>55256932
>pleb didnt madcow then go to layne norton's objectively god tier strength/hypertrophy routine
baka
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>>55256675
>prove me wrong
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
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>>55256997
it's common knowledge here you dumb newfag
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>>55257019
This man is a meme machine
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>>55257019
Don't start anything with that retard please. I'm fairly sure he is the old reaction meme image spamming dumbfuck who starts arguments for the sake of it, weasels out at every point where he is asked to do something(muh burden of proof, I won't if you don't), provide some evidence or just explain his points further so that they are clear with no ambiguity. Impossible to argue with, won't admit being wrong and mostly just picks on the easy people who know very little. In the end, nothing but tens of posts of carcinogenic garbage happens.
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>>55248784
https://youtu.be/nT2eCcEMu0U?t=4m48s
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>>55257165
Says the deaf retard
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What's a decent microphone to attach to these?
How am I even supposed to attach one?
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>>55257698
If it has a 3.5 mm jack then v moda boompro
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>>55257735
That's like 37€ for me
It seems nice but isn't there anything cheaper?
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>Budget
maximum 50€
>Location
Italy
>Source
PC and phone (90% PC)
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
doesn't matter
>Preferred tonal balance
doesn't matter
>Preferred music
I don't listen to music too much, mostly to use for games (Insurgency and Battlefield)
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>>55257191
I was about to say that she's a bit of a qt and not a moron when it comes to headphones (for a woman).

Then I realized she had the 800's on backwards. Noice
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>>55257698
If you hang around here long enough vmoda boompro and antlion modmic are the only decent mics the next step down is the zalman zm1 but no attaching stick
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>>55257019
>whatever I post is supported by common knowledge and whoever questions what I post is a dumb newfag
Your posts, probably like your life, defies all logic.
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>>55257165
>muh burden of proof, I won't if you don't
You cannot handle the burden of proof do yourself a favor and not make a claim.
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>>55258207
>>55258233
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHW50002013.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeatsSoloII2014.pdf

You being incapable of navigating to citation or being able to interpret is not my problem, proof is right here.
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Would 5.1 headphones be good for VR or bad?
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>>55258290
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHM50x.pdf wrong link
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>>55258290
>You being incapable of navigating to citation
You confuse a refusal to fulfill your obligation for you with an incapability to do so. I do not have a problem with your claim but with your idiotic attempt to make it anyone else's obligation. Thus why I provided the link that described your mistake.
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How long should I expect a K612 cable to last?
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>Budget
$60
>Location
America
>Source
Phone, already have a pair of sennheisers 598s for my PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Whatever as long as it's portable
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
doesn't matter, but comfort never hurts
>Preferred tonal balance
doesn't matter
>Preferred music
Rock, punk, hip-hop, classical
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>>55258091
bump
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>>55244146
Has anyone here tried the hd600 and the hd650?

As far as I know the hd650 has more bass and sounds a little darker?, I also hear that the 650 has better detail/resolution?

I have 20 days to return my hd600's and I love them, but i'm just curious about the 650's.
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>>55259121
>As far as I know the hd650 has more bass and sounds a little darker?
true
>I also hear that the 650 has better detail/resolution?
not true
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>>55256893
They are not sold in my country, I would have to get them in Amazon, are they worth it?

They are 45-50 dollars so I can afford them.

I also could get Sennheiser HD202 for 65 locally, not sure how much better they are in comparison with the HD201.
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>>55258702
As long as you treat your heapdhones well

>>55259121
HD600 is more neutral than HD650 out of the box, then it's automatically more detailed and it has a better "sound resolution", which means absolutely nothing btw.
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>>55259121
it's easier to pick out detail with the hd650 because it doesn't have an upper midrange boost which makes all vocals shouty and annoying to listen to. much more laid back and smooth on the 650
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>>55259121
Be careful of some of the advice you get around here. There are some who believe everything related to audio is from frequency response as if a tone's clarity is related to its volume, ie. SQ = SPL.
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>>55259381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GqIci7JA8c
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>>55259530
It doesn't take expertise to recognize something is fundamentally wrong.
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>>55253232
Whats the engraving?
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>>55259596
Looks like the door to Moria from "The Fellowship of the Ring."
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wooo they've arrived
they sound great
compared to e10's since someone asked a thread or two ago
>cleaner sounding
>bass is tighter and less prominent
>can pick up better mids and trebs on top of the bass being less there
using sansa clip zip, no eq, so far i dont think i'll need much eq if any
for ambient/classical/opera/lounge stuff works great
played some rock and it sounds clean and strong
A+++ would buy again
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>>55259157
>I also hear that the 650 has better detail/resolution?
not true

Good. I watched the inner fidelity video and the guy said that the 650 has better resolution and detail? which is weird because I thought they were not only the bassier headphone but the darker one so I assumed that they would have less detail?

That's why I bought the hd600.
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>>55259381
I don't think you know much about audio at all to claim that perception of clarity is not almost entirely just FR. Clarity is not a measured unit or spec anyway.
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>>55259803
ive seen people describe them as bright before. would you say they are bright? how is the treble
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>>55259897
>I don't think you know much about audio at all to claim that perception of clarity is not almost entirely just FR
You are entitled to your opinion.

>Clarity is not a measured unit or spec anyway.
Exactly. I don't understand how anyone can logically assume clarity is a function of FR. You can get plenty of SPL, which is what FR measures with little to no SQ.
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>>55258180
also she kinda has that five o clock shadow
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>>55259920
for my purposes not too bright at all, in fact the "balanced" label is very apt
for example, listening to solti conducting wagner's ring, the ride of the valkyries, violins/winds are clear but not overwhelming, brass sounds strong and clear, voices are nice and strong, and the bass elements are nice and deep but not thumpy

switched over to some trance ("hope you're ok" david forpes ft emma gilliespie) - clear instrumentation, bass is deep, and you can actually hear all the textures, vocals come out strong and clear

i wouldnt call myself audiophile or expert on sound, but to me they sound very good and well balanced, if anything i would say the treble is not as prominent as bass/mids
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>>55259938
Yep, That's why I said 'kinda' lol, she's close to very good looking, but not quite.
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>>55260010
all flac sources btw
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>>55259920
>>55260010
just for kicks put on some taylor ;^)
improvement from e10s is definite, on the e10s the badly produced (or maybe badly ripped) 1989 is really bass heavy and drowns out a lot of the music, on the e80s the music/singing is clearer, the treble is definitely not prominent, maybe the high mids are the strongest, bass is kept in check nicely
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>>55259928
Clarity is human perception. It's not an attribute of sound but something we feel when we hear a certain kind of sound and then associate a term to it. Yours and mine could differ.

Frequency response covers every part of the signal except the parts which are unwanted such as distortion and noise. Those can be under audible thresholds and often are because of masking.
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>>55260157
>Clarity is human perception.
What qualitative perception is not a "human perception?"

>It's not an attribute of sound
Stopped reading here. Are you trying to assert the two are mutually exclusive? That sound is not something that is perceived or qualtitative?

>Frequency response covers every part of the signal
What are the TWO and ONLY TWO things that FR covers? Tonality and SPL? Those two are "every part of sound" or are you now trying to move the goalposts?
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>>55260212
>Should have stopped reading here. Are you trying to assert . . .
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>Budget
around $100
>Location
Aus
>Source
PC
>Preferred type
Open
>Comfort lvl
MAX
>Tonal Balance
Neutral/slightly bassy i guess. Not too fussed as it will be for mostly gaming
>Pref music
Bit of everything
>Past headphones
M50s, Denon D5000 (were great, but wasn't using them enough to justify cost)
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https://youtu.be/EIUCRzT9B1Q?t=396

>this guy
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>>55260157
Chalk this question up to morbid curiosity but what do you do with your headphones? Measure them with couplers all day?

It seems you are determined to exclude the human element from headphones.
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what does /hpg/ think of House of Marley headphones?
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>>55260212
Oh you are this guy. I don't have the patience to "argue" with you.

I pointed out that clarity isn't an attribute of sound. I'm not asserting anything. And by sound I mean it in physics. I did that because I was under the assumption that you think frequency response isn't part of something you call clarity or a part of everything we hear actually. The most important part too.

Sound has an amplitude and frequency, both of which FR covers. Frequency response doesn't tell you the absolute SPL. It tells you the relative magnitude of frequencies in a system. It also defines bandwidth and thus speed. You alter the frequency response, you alter the signal that we perceive. You could call a certain sum of tones clarity or anything else. The FR at eardrum + nonlinearities is basically everything.

>>55260357
I'm not and that definitely wasn't the point of my post.
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>>55260303
updated!
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>>55260303
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Hpg is the worst general desu
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I realize that asking your opinions on headphones is "frowned apon" but I am in a situation that requires me to get some new headphones. I have narrowed down my search to two headphones and one of them seems mostly made of plastic.

How bad is plastic in these audiophile grade headphones? How easy is it for me to break a pair of plastic headphones?
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>>55261033
what headphones?
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>>55261033
If it has the twist thing like you can turn your ear cup thing around. If that is made of plastic do not buy it
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>>55248949
Yeah i would like some isolation, as long as it doesnt affect sound quality somehow. Dont want to hear outside too much but def dont want sound to leak. My bro bought 598s already, they sound prty good but lack power in the low range. i remember they used to cost around $250, what the hell happened?
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>>55261085

HD558
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>>55260540
>I pointed out that clarity isn't an attribute of sound.
Clarity is an attribute of sound reproduction.

>Sound has an amplitude and frequency, both of which FR covers.
And that is all FR covers.
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How much difference is there between the 250ohm DT880 and the 600ohm. I have the amp to comfortably drive either, but I see much better deals on the 250 from time to time.
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>>55262032
Objectively: A couple of decibels in a couple of frequencies.
Subjectively: Nothing.
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>>55259803

You might be the guy I suggested them to, but regardless, I'm glad that you like them!

I picked them up in lieu of the e10's back in the day because I was curious, and I never see them recommended here. I think they're great, especially for the price bracket. I agree that they're pretty balanced, and I think that they respond to EQ pretty well, too.
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>Budget
Around $50 USD
>Location
United States
>Source
Laptop and Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
I don't understand what this is asking. Over ear?
>Open or closed
Closed cause I have to deal with noisy public transportation a lot
>Comfort level
Comfort is important to me.
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped or neutral
>Preferred music
I listen to happy hardcore, anime soundtracks and chiptunes mostly.
>Past headphones
shitty logitech headsets and shitty skullcandy ear buds

should I just get those cheapy monoprice headphones? the ones that are like $20?
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>>55262381
Type is what kind of headphones you want. They can be either over year (cover your entire ear, giving you better sound and noise isolation at the expense of size), on-ear (cover only the bottom part if your ear where the ear canal is) and IEMs (go inside your ears)
Especially important to decide which type you want with budget headphones, because there really isn't much in closed over-ear in the 50$ range that is good.
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>>55262418
>over year
If you are talking about circum-aural headphones and people think you are talking about a year long episode, you might be a redneck.
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>>55262354
i'm gonna do some break in tonight before i start playing with the eq, do you have any recommendations?
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>>55262448
> break in
Surely you mean actually listening to the fucking headphones until you get used to the sound, and not letting them play random frequency sweeps all night, right?
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>>55262448

Not really, I don't even EQ mine. Just tweak to your taste, or mess around see what you like!
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>>55262473
>Surely you mean actually listening to the fucking headphones until you get used to the sound, and not letting them play random frequency sweeps all nigh
indeed, i'm gonna be going from trance to opera to baby metal all night ;^)

>>55262487
k, i'm gonna try the eq i had for the e10s (with the bass left alone since i had that tuned way down for them)
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>>55260242
I've increased my budget to <$200
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>>55262563
HD598
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>>55262576
why do retards recommend the 598 when the superior 558 exists for less
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>>55262580
>558
>superior
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>>55262603
not only measurably superior, but can also be made into the 598 by removing foam behind the driver as the drivers are the same and enclosures are near identical

why even recommend anything when you don't know what you're talking about
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>>55262617
>measurably superior
Source?
>muh ass
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>>55262617
> Measurably superior
> Have the same driver and enclosure
Where's the superiority coming from then?
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>>55262639
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>>55262655
Got a link? I'm searching headroom for the hd 598 and all it gives me is a cable.
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>>55262655
Never mind. Found it.

>higher spikes and lower dips
>superior
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>>55262576
>>55262580
>>55262603
>>55262617
Thanks guys

I ended up buying the 558s cause the 598s are super expensive here.
If i don't like em, i can always return them to the store.
Will probably try out the foam mod though
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Sennheiser HD518;
Audio - Technica ATH-AX3BK;
Beyerdynamic Dt235;
Superlux HD 669 or
Superlux HD 681 EVO?

Help.
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>>55263205
HD518

Can you remove the grill? Make it open back like HD558 or HD598?
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>>55263238
I don't know how.
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>>55263238
What about between all the others, except HD518. Which one would you pick?
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Anyone tried the AIAIA TMA-2?
Changing components on the fly and only buying the parts you need to achieve different sound signatures seems like a neat idea but I can't imagine it not being a meme
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>>55263314
I own the original Superlux HD681.
I have no idea what is that Audio Technica.
The Beyerdynamic looks cheap and tacky.
The Superluxes don't sound good than my Tascam TH-02 with HM5 pads. I hate using my Superlux because of the pads feel cold and the bass is boomy.
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>>55263348
I own the original Super too. I want to upgrade, but I'm finding it hard to pay a fair price.
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>>55263320
It's a joke. The only parts that really contribute are drivers, open/closed, and earpads.
The latter can be changed on any good headphone, and exchangeable drivers would be prohibitively expensive if they were any good. That leaves the outer grill, which I suppose would be a fun gimmick, but they're probably not good headphones.
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Anybody have an Xduoo?
trying to figure out if it has a good user interface
is everything organized into albums and artists?
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>Budget
$150-$300 (low side would be nice)
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
MAX (12-18hrs/day)
>Preferred music
weeb vocal shit, rock, EDM, Synthwave
>Past headphones
Plantronics 780 don't hurt me /hpg/

Music library ogg vorbis q6 and flac for my favorites, would be willing to buy a dac if it really matters, not an audiophile at all as you can see from past headset. I am just looking for something nice to listen to music with that will last 4-5 years (college).

Was told yt links can help, can post links if needed.

I tried my friends Sennheiser HD 598's and those were pretty nice.
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>>55263462
DT880 or HD600 (secondhand)
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>>55263379
I've read the ui is shit but it can be made better with rockbox. Don't know for sure though

>>55260652
What are your opinions on those?
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>>55263637
Any suggestions for lower price range? Or does the quality really increase that linearly with price.
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>>55263817
>Or does the quality really increase that linearly with price.
Price is not an indicator of quality but with the right headphones you get better quality at higher price points.
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>>55263840
Will I notice the difference between HD598's and HD600's? Not sure I can justify 100+ dollar price difference for marginal improvement.
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>>55263935
As long as you don't suffer from hearing damage you should be able to notice a difference. Whether or not that difference is worth the higher cost is entirely subjective.
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What's a step up from the Fiio: E10k? I have $200AUD I want to spend on a amp/DAC.
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>>55264025
Hmm, alright then. I might go for the HD600's since I will be using them for a long time.

Opinions on DAC/amps? Needed or not? I would be driving it with whatever my motherboard has built in, semi recent - last 5yrs
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>>55264061
Objective2.
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