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hourly reminder.
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I almost forgot, thanks for reminding
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>>55241028
You rarely hear about AMDShit anymore, thanks for reminding me.
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>>55241028
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What even are this?
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>>55241028
>last years mid range performance for a budget price

Fuck yeah definately getting that sidegrade
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>>55241713
it's a big gpu.
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I'm going to laugh so hard when it bombs.
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>>55241728
big black card
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>>55241728
For you
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>>55241729
nvidiot stop cursing
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480--*
200$ 4GB 230 8GB---*
with performance of 400-500$ 980----*

Only uses 100w of power and 60c heat on shitty cooler
Thanks die shrink!
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>>55241729

Yes, and after that I'm going to laugh when you're paying double or triple what you should be paying for GPUs and CPUs.
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>>55241728
A what now?
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>>55241837
What do you mean, what you 'should' be paying for gpu's?
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>>55241028
Hourly reminder that it'll be a competitor for the 3.5 mememagic cards that have already ceased production.
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wait so its getting its official announcement with specs soon? or it just happened? someone link me something
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>>55241900
http://www.something.com
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>>55241887
Worst type of person.
Objective 0/10.
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>>55241924
thanks man
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>>55241968
That rich coming from an entitled millennial.
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>>55242010
Worst type of degenerate "person".
Objective 0/10 by any reasonable metric.
0/10.
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>>55242010
>I want to pay more for no reason because that's what a true American would do.
lmao wtf
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>>55241728
If I remove that heat sink, will you die?
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>coming out soon
>canadas potal system going on strike on july 2nd

I'm gonna be pretty fucking mad if it doesn't come.
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>>55242067
>87C after Firestrike

It will be very painful.
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>>55242233
I have heat pasta
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>>55241779

Stop spreading lies you fucking shill
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>>55241028
POO
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>>55242052
>no reason
>50% extra performance is 'no reason'
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Considering the board itself i wonder how fast we'll see "ITX" editions appearing.
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>>55242250

Fan around 50%, are you even trying ?
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>>55242276

>blower cooler
>going above 50%

just a nice reminder for you pajeet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57lPSH6geGk
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>>55242256
Dumb. Myopic, no vision. Little awareness.
Dumb. Dumbest type of person.
Objective 0/10.
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>>55242250


87c and 82c in a crossfire configuration with fan speed at only 1600 RPM....

>mfw I'm running a reference 980 that uses the same blower system and it stays at 89c with 4000rpm....

Seems a shit ton better than what I have kiddo
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>>55242307

Yes, yes well done, well done...
You might be right for the HD 6870

HOWEVER!
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designating shitting card. There is so much 480 shilling going on right now it's insane. Nvidia shills shilling AMD shills shilling each other and across competing camps.

MFW the card will turn out pretty average, just like fiji, just like most AMD cards since the 290
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>>55242309
Autism.
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>>55241028
hourly reminder
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>>55242348
are you implying there wasn't this much or more shilling when nvidia was releasing cards?
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>>55241028

Mexico is having the same price as the UK and other euro countries

Between $300-$333 USD.

http://www.dimercom.mx/index.php?route=product/product&path=25_73&product_id=9233

Good thing im going to vegas in 12 days.
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>>55242363
Generic insult. Dim poster. Dumb.
Dumbest type of poster. Just dumb.
Objective 0/10.
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>>55242276


actually 1600 RPM isn't 50%
5200 RPM is that fans max RPM (watch a teardown showing the exact fan model for proof)
1600 RPM is roughly 30% of total fan speed

GPU-Z is not properly reporting most things on the RX 480 at this time, even the latest model does not properly report most things on the RX 480, you have to do a thermal camera test or there's no way to properly test the temperatures on a 480.

Source: someone who owns over 2000 Nvidia GPUs for work
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>>55241713
Custom cheese grinder with a high-power turbine for extreme cheese grinding.
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C'mon guys is it worth it or not? I use you guys as a recommendation board but I don't know who is shilling or not. pl0x help
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>>55242348
Maybe people just have opinions?
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>>55242250
AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES EVERYWHERE
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>>55242605
It's worth it if you are actually upgrading to that performance.

If you already have that level of performance then it isn't.
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>>55242758
cheers boi
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If I get the reference cooler, could I get an Amada Kokoro sticker for it?
If not I guess I'll just wait for Sapphire or PowerColor.
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>>55242372
When did he say there wasn't?

>>55242958
Fuck off you stupid weaboo
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>>55242967
Fuck off shill.
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>>55242371
shallow bitches get nvidia because it costs the most and because its trendy?
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>>55242974
You fuck off stupid shill
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>>55242067
It'll be extremely infernal
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>>55242605
It looks to be amazing performance for the price, but wait for benchmarks of non-reference models before buying.
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>>55243001
I asked a question about a video card in a thread about that video card, you're here trying to convince people to buy a different brand's products instead.
I'm the shill though?
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>>55242371
Alright what is that case
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>>55241028
Stop spamming this shit you AMDtard
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>>55242992

Nvidia is the iPhone of PC gaming, ironic that most of their fans are clueless teenagers
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>>55242371
But they're not sexually appealing.
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>>55243071
That's not ironic, that's the complete opposite of ironic.
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>>55242605
I haven't seen this picture before. It's nice. It gives me a "Nighthawks" feel. Is it supposed to? Or just coincidence?
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>>55243093
Hey, back off. Don't expect that early to mid-twenties guy to know the meaning of the words he uses.
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>>55243116
S-Sorry.
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>>55241028
POO
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>>55242387
Severe autism
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>>55243143
Moderate stupidity. Pretty stupid.
Stupid enough. Stupid type of person.
Very stupid.
0/10.
Objectively.
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>>55241779
It's almost like new cards are faster than old cards, or they cost less for equivalent performance. The 980 is a year and a half old at this point.
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>>55242010
t. millenial rebelling by hating on millenials on a website full of millenials who hate millenials
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>>55243170
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>87 degrees under load
kekkkk
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>>55243284
Thats crossfire, the other GPU was 82C, also it was probally right under it, blocking the air.


>tfw buying Reference 8GB
>Water cool it down the line
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>gtx 1080 FE hits 82c under load and clocks down (while still being above the base clock, mind you)
>IT'S FERMI 2.0

>rx 480 hits 82c to 87c under load
>WHAT AMAZING EFFICIENCY

kek gotta love AMDrones. The rx 480, a mid to low end card, has the same thermal performance of the gtx 1080, a high end card. Given that high end cards consume more power and are less power efficient than the lower tier cards, that means that AMD's high end cards will run hotter than Nvidia's cards, and Nvidia's mid to low end cards will run cooler than AMD's.

I think we're in for another generation where both Nvidia and AMD put out cards that are just average and all the hype is for nothing. Nobody pulled off any miracles, cards of equivalent price brackets will be pretty similar from both sides and all that.
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>>55241779
250$ for the same performance a 330$ card had in 2014.
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>>55243106
It's supposed to, yes. I believe it's the same artist.
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>performance like a gtx 980
>power consumption like a gtx 980

so is AMD always going to be like a generation behind in performance/watt?
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>>55243846
>GTX 980
>$500+ Launch price
>$400 now
>RX 480
>$200 Launch price

See the difference?
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>>55243846
AMD should give all its employees peyote buttons, then send them on a hallucinogenic journey out in the desert.
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>>55242605
>I use you guys as a recommendation board

Fucking fuck.
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When does it come out?
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>>55243846
Crossfire Firestrike scores if they're legit puts it in range with SLI 970.

AMD flops again.
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>>55243304
Typical Nvidiot cherry picking results that make it look bad. Yes it was crossfire which most people won't bother with if they are sensible.
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>>55241028
https://twitter.com/AMDRadeon/status/746356852536020992?s=09
>Rise up. PC Gaming for the masses.
Is AMD the official video card for communism?
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>>55243945
Official video card for people who fall for edgy shit marketing.
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>>55243918
>I can't use Google
It's the 29th.
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>>55243883
>GTX 970
>10% slower than 980
>Faster than a stock 980 when overclocked
>300$ launch price 2 years ago
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two RX 480's (8GB model) for $460 or one GTX 1070 for $450
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>>55241755
I can even hear it in his voice... fml
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>>55244006
Wait four days then you'll buy the single card.
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>>55243945
Their target market is BR hues and Russians playing pirated games and DOTA/LoL.
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>>55243945
>>55243953
>caring about the marketing
>ever
AMD is the official card for Muslim extremists, communists, 14 year old GAYMERS, e'sports' ATHLETES™, weeaboos, artistic designers, and whoever the fuck else they marketed to when I wasn't paying attention.
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>>55243991
What world do you live in?
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>>55243945
They really went with the shittiest possible marketing angle on this. Red = commie influences is just lazy as hell.

They could have gone with the blood motif. Gamers bleed red. VR is in our blood. GPU Freedom. All kinds of motifs to tie together, and it wouldn't be endorsing horrific authoritarian regimes.
Bravo for the marketing fuck up.
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>>55244132
CHEEKY BREEKI
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>>55244165
IV DAMKE
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>>55244132
The unofficial Japanese mascot for AMD is Amada Kokoro, kokoro meaning heart. AMD could have capitalized on this and went with the angle of being at the heart of gaming.

This shit writes itself. How can a company be so terrible at marketing? For decades? Its unreal how shitty they are at advertising their own products.
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>>55244253
Yeah, making your GPU synonymous with weeb anime girls sounds real smart.
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>>55244279
I didn't say they had to use the anime mascot, you mindless twat, only that they borrow from it the theme. The heart. Being at the heart of gaming. They provide hardware for all the consoles on the market right now, and next gen systems, they're launching a cheap entry level VR GPU. All of that ties together perfectly.

Not that a shit eating 80IQ retard could understand anything this woefully simple.
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>>55243945
Wow.
I wish advertisements could just pertain to the product. The only exception is when the company genuinely does stand for something meaningful.

Every once in a while I begin to slip into a narrowed, almost myopic agitation. It's like hypomania, in a way. And I have a strong urge to start a small, modest company. Aggressively expand, and eventually build a massive empire such that I can wage large scale corporate warfare and either stomp out or absorb anything I see as remotely wanting. Devote my entire existence to eliminating anything that's functionally subpar relative to my idea of the ideal state of the human species.

Fucking Intel. Fucking Nvidia. Fucking Qualcomm. Fucking Samsung. And AMD, fucking AMD. Get your stupid shit together AMD.
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>>55244006
>>55244017


Dont listen to that faggot. 2 480s vs a 1070 is a no brainer. Go for the 480s.

If you want 2K high frame rate performance its the best option
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>>55244311
>using a frilly halmark card level slogan to market you gaming GPU

Doesn't sound any better to me. You're fucking terrible at this and you're delusional enough to think you aren't.
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>>55244334
Yes, buy it now, buy it 4 days before reviews are out. Preferably from a vendor that won't allow for returns!

Work on your subtlety, shill.
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Would it be worth getting if we already have an R7 260X?
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>>55244361
Fuck yes.
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>>55244365
what if i have a 7970? What about a CPU i currently have a i52500k
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>>55244340
>80IQ retard trying to save face after showing everyone he can barely read
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>>55243284
wasn't the 1080 just as hot?
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>>55244411
>weeb autist butthurt he got called out on his idea being dog shit

Keep going. It only makes this sweeter.
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>>55243846
>>power consumption like a gtx 980
lol i'd love to see a 980 even run off a single 6 pin
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>>55243846
Uhh power consumption is way lower than 980
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>>55244349
Seriously this AMD shilling is awful. I'm thoroughly convinced at this point that AMD fanboys are awful people. Makes me not even want to buy AMD so I'm not associated with these morons.
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>>55244674
We're just SO FUCKING HYPED.
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>>55244682
*retarded
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>>55243187
feels century turning desu senpai
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>>55244674
>nvidiashills are this lost and confused because nvidia have made incredibly poor decisions and fucked up countless times this year they lack anything to shill
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>>55241876
If you don't even know what a gpu is, you're on the wrong board, mate. Try /b/ or something.
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>>55244720
If you don't even know what sarcasm is, you're on the wrong website. Try reddit or something.
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>>55244674
You can tell who the real shill is by how butthurt they are about shitposts. ie you.
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>>55244674
Don't worry, they'll all be let down once the reviews and benchmarks come out
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>>55243510
This guy knows his shit
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>>55244849
Oh sweet summer child. Once the reviews are out, the "drivers will fix it" dance will start.
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>>55243510
>pathetic samefag

The GTX 1080 has a huge heat sink on it, the RX 480 on a tiny piece of aluminum. Heat heat pipes, no copper at all, just plain aluminum.

14nm 4th Gen GCN is far more efficient than 16nm Pascal.
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>>55244988
Why should I buy from AMD if they're so cheap with the build materials/design?
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why was my comment that supported amd removed? are you kim jong un or something?
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>>55245040
>baiting this hard

There is nothing cheap about that. It has a tiny heat sink because thats all it needs. It only draws 100w~
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>>55244382
Yes. 480 is a gtx 980 = 390X = 1.5 - 2X the speed of the 7970 almost.
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>>55241028
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING 460 BENCHMARKS!
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>>55245066
>There is nothing cheap about that. It has a tiny heat sink because thats all it needs


I see you're a newfag, AMD always uses that type of heatsink, My Reference 7950 also has the same size heatsink.

AMD is just cheap, dirty kikes.
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I want is 100+ frames at 1440P with everything to ultra. The games ill be playing are GTA V, Witcher 3, overwatch, modded out skyrim, Doom, dark souls 3, and the new Dues X when it comes out.


Can two rx 480's do this or a 1070. Will i need to go for the 1080 to get what i want?
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>>55245101
LOL.
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>>55245066
But if it had a better heatsink, it would run even cooler/could be clocked higher by default.
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>>55245111
SLi 1080 :^)
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>>55245111
The 1070 can do this easily. I own one. I get 100-120 fps in most games.
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AMD has the next 4870 and they know it.

1600 mhz here we come
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>>55245104
>even more bait posting

The reference cooler on the 7950/7970 is substantially larger, shitposter.

>>55245138
No, clocks aren't arbitrary. They're a sweet spot for perf/watt on the voltage curve. No amount of heat sink would ever change that.
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>>55245188
Lets do some simple math
Nvidia
>uses metal casing
>uses a proper heatsink
>doesn't cheap out like the filthy kikes at AMD

AMD
>plastic build, you KNOW this came from China, and not even the good China (Taiwan), but the child laborer in the PRC
>shitty aluminum heatsink
>make the reference design as cheap as possible to encourage you to buy the significantly more expensive cards

This is why AMD's market share is dwindling.
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>>55245185
I am still using the 4870 and I am going to upgrade to the 480
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>>55241725
970/390 were high end, retard. Also this performance will equal the new consoles, so you're sure to run games at 1080p flawlessly with low heat and noise. TW3, which is a game decidely unfavorable to AMD's cards, runs High/Ultra with hairworks off at 60FPS/1080p. TW3 Ultra is a tier of its own, but like many "Ultra" settings (FO4 comes to mind), it really isn't worth the performance hit. So TW3 High is a good build target / benchmarking goal.

You may not need the card (which I'll get, 280x sold for ~190USD, buying 4GB RX470 for 150USD, 40 profit and a better card), but there are plenty of people on 560Tis and other old cards/CF setups who will upgrade.
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>>55245188
I own a fucking HD7950 I know how the reference heatsink looks like.
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>>55245254
Not him but it's pretty easy to see it uses a bigger heatsink
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>>55245265
Well I have been chinked then mine is just a fucking block on the middle.
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So can I expect at least 2x the performance of my 7950 or what with this card? What's the real world difference between the 4gb and 8gb variants? I'm only gaming at 1080p. Gibe benchmarks plox.
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>>55245296
What brand is it? Can't blame AMD for 3rd parties doing their own shit.
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>>55245239
You're grasping at straws. The FE card is nothing but a gimmick for uninformed kids spending mommy's money. The fan shroud doesn't make a GPU premium.

>>55245265
It also has a huge vapor chamber on the bottom. They're not even remotely similar.

>>55245296
>lying pathetic faggot child bait poster desperately trying to save face
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>>55245301
My overclocked GTX970 is almost twice as fast as a stock clocks (no boost) HD7950 in Valley. haven't tried doing game comparison though.
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>>55242010
>>55242040
When I find myself reading posts like this, I know I've had too much 4chan for the day. I'm gonna go read a book.
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If blower style GPU coolers had much bigger fans like pic related, would they perform as well as open air coolers? I like this idea because exhausting the heat out of the case is just more preferable to open air coolers for me.
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>>55245348
Yes, but to get really nice temps you need a thick heatsink.

See how AMD managed to cool down the 300 rebrand series even with just two fans compared to the 200 coolers.
The heatsinks used on the 300 rebrand are around 2.5 slots compared to the 2.0 slot from almost all the Nvidia cards.

The heatsink used in the MSI 390 is almost as twice as thick as the one in the MSI GTX 970.
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>>55242250
Could be the top card getting reduced airflow in a tight dual gpu setup.
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>>55245239
They claim they're putting the Fury's cooling tech onto the 480; personally, I hope that the cooler on the 470 will be equal to that of the 480, whatever it turns out to be.

AMD's now stock Wraith CPU cooler gives me hope that the reference models will have good cooling and a 40W difference between TDP and consumption
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>>55241028
The greatest meme of our time.
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>>55245345
It's the same sensation, when I find myself generating posts like this. The effort is pretty minimal though, and in my present frame of mind there is an inherently valuable return.

Enjoy your book.
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>>55243510
when you limit the fan speed to about 30% sure, it gets to 80~c

1600rpm on a fan that goes 5000-6000 is not 50% fan speed, gpuz is throwing wrong numbers.
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>>55245461
God damn the Wraith is fucking sex.
I wish they made one for Intel. That or Zen kicking ass, but... eh. I'm cautiously optimistic at best.
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>>55245348
You know, you could do this even better if you used some sort of conductive tubing that didn't radiate much heat, and put the blower on the very edge of the case.
Crazy idea right? It's just coming to me. :^)
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>>55243510
The 1080 is drawing over 220W while it's TDP is only 180W. Of course it's going to downclock, because it's can't maintain its boost speed and stay under 82C.

The 480 probably draws about 110W but has a TDP of 150W, thereby allowing overclocking and boost clocks but keeping the temperature manageable.

Tl;dr You're a shill or a moron
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>>55245621
>Tl;dr You're a shill or a moron
Nvidia users in a nutshell, what's new?
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>>55245555
Zen will be good. Intel is getting out of desktop x86 game because the products are mature; basically the generic (AMD) is as good as the name brand (Intel, who licenses x86 to AMD). Competition forces thin profit margins.
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>>55241028
even his hand is the same color as poo
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>>55245655
Let's casually forget that a hell of a lot of modern x86 was developed by AMD.
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>>55241028
topkek
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>>55245246
>970/390
>high end

jesus christ
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>>55245655
I'm all for it if they can outperform Skylake-E or Skylake-X or whatever Intel decides to call it on release, I just don't see it happening.
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>>55245669
Believe it or not, that's what most people consider high end. Mid range is console performance.
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>>55245239
>uses a """proper""" heatsink
>meme vapor chamber
>metal casing
>still a housefire
fucking kek
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>>55245621
The 1080 draws 180w from the 8 pin power connector, there's another 75w from the PCIe connection. 180w + 75w = 255w. The 1080 reduces its boost clock at higher temperatures, but it can still remain above the base clock. All cards these days are designed to adjust their clock speed based on the load and the temperature and a host of other factors.
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>>55245678
>consoles
>midrange
jesus christ
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>>55245663
64 bit yes, but Intel has been both a company and producing x86 a lot longer than AMD.
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>>55245655
And AMD licenses X86_64 to Intel. Intel's own attempt at 64 bit superset never truly took off.
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>>55245681
>82c is a house fire when AMD cards are very much capable of that (safely too)
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>>55245687
>one year
>a lot longer
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>>55245687
...
64-bit is the tip of the iceberg. There's a lot more than that.
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>>55245694
fermi, titan x and gtx 1080 would like to have a word with you

amd wish they could match nvidia's patented and closed sourced housefire technology
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Faggot OP here.

I made this thread as a joke, and yet 167 replies happened.

HOLY SHIT people. You're all the reason /g/ is shit today. NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID GPU WARS, GET A FUCKING JOB.
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>>55245708
That is my job though.
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>>55245670
Eh, let's not wish for too much, but their 8000 series "eight core" CPUs release for like 250USD on 28nm (lots of silicon). Performance/dollar is looking pretty good. We have yet to see how much they will undercut Intel.
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>>55245655
Intel isn't getting out of the desktop/laptop processor market anytime soon. All of their attempts to break into mobile besides low power processors for Surface Pro type devices has failed. They need x86. And AMD and Intel depend on each other, it's not like AMD has Intel by the balls or anything.
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>>55245685
It's true. Low end is garbage like AMD's R7 line. Face it, the stuff we consider high end around here is what most users see as UFO tier.
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>>55245707
The 1080 is nowhere near Fermi tier. The 1080 gets to the mid 80s C. Fermi operated at 105 C. There's a 20 degree difference.
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YFW when it doesn't overclock at all, leaving it to stock 980 i.e. overclocked 970 performance.

http://videocardz.com/61396/new-amd-rx-480-crossfire-benchmarks-hit-the-web-exclusive-first-look-at-new-overclocking-tool
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>>55245749
480 will need massive VRAM OC's to actually get anywhere. It won't scale very well with just a core OC.
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>>55245749
>YFW when it doesn't overclock at all
We already know it does.
>leaving it to stock 980 i.e. overclocked 970 performance.
We all know this isn't true either.

Nice post though.
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>>55245741
1080 and the future Ti and Titan are high end. The prices have just gotten out of hands.
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>>55245684
>The 1080 draws 180w from the 8 pin power connector, there's another 75w from the PCIe connection. 180w + 75w = 255w.
That's only it's max power draw, not necessarily consumption. And I didn't mean to imply that 1080 thottles below base clock, note that I specified boost clock in that sentence.
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>>55241028
it's a constant struggle
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>>55245761
You only said "of course it's going to downclock". It can maintain a boost speed at 82C, just not it's highest boost speed.
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>>55245759
Yeah, nah. Most users don't even look at the 1070's price point. You've got your head in the clouds.
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>>55245758
If it was at 980 level by default and overclocked by any significant amount, it would already be at stock 980 Ti levels.

>We all know this isn't true either.
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>>55241028
muh wallet is happy
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>>55245759
They're enthusiast teir

>>55245779
>Of course it's going to downclock, because it's can't maintain its boost speed and stay under 82C
Downclock from boost, retard. Now apologize.
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>>55245814
>demanding an apology on 4chan
Why don't you go fuck yourself.
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>>55245757
That's why the 1080 uses GDDR X and the 980 Ti has 384 bit bus. The 1070 is just cucked though.
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Seems my local microcenter is going to have them in stock for the 29th release. Should i pick up a 8370 to upgrade my 6300 with?

>inb4 get intel

Id rather not have to replace my motherboard aswell since im waiting to see how Zen pans out. If its shit then ill get intel.
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>>55241028
AMD for life.

fight me.
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>>55245735
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/226898-intel-fires-the-equivalent-of-1-2-amds-restructures-away-from-pc-mobile-business
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>>55245857
You have to replace your motherboard with Zen anyway. It uses AM4.
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>>55245895
You have a point but Intel shit is so expensive. I could just get a 8370e for like 80 bucks and drop that shit in
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>>55245908
If it was $80 sure but Microcenter prices aren't that good. The best deals there are with the bundled motherboard anyway. Either get an actual upgrade now or wait for Zen.
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>>55245857
I have the 6350, and I'm planning to sell it and buy a used 8350. ~20USD upgrade. I'll get a better CPU after AMD has established Zen and I get an HMD
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>>55245895
Yeah, but he can have a better CPU until he picks AM4 or 1151 later
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WHEN ARE THEY LIFTING THE NDA? I WANT CONCRETE BENCHMARKS DAMMIT.
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>>55245959
Why not just get 1151 now instead of wasting money on something that will get replaced so soon?
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>>55245978
because AM4 will actually last unlike 1151
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>>55245882
>Intel will continue to introduce next-generation CPUs, and it’ll clearly continue to market those devices as compelling upgrades.
They aren't abandoning the desktop market. Why would they abandon something they virtually have a monopoly over? That article didn't specify *who* was getting laid off at Intel. Companies restructure all the time, I highly doubt Intel will stop making desktop CPUs as long as there is a market for them. And nothing about that article even suggests they're abandoning x86_64. They're shifting to enterprise/cloud + ultra portable "cloud books" , both of which still use x86 by and large.
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>>55245978
AMD CPUs are cheap, it's a stopgap solution,
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>>55245992
So just hold out to AM4. You're the one that suggested the 1151 option.
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>>55246015
A 8370e is still $120 at Microcenter. It's a dumb "upgrade"
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>>55245967
29th iirc
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>>55243170
Keep going guys there was shit flying everywhere
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>>55246039
So, when it comes out? I hope they have a decent stock because I don't want to buy before I see anything.
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>>55246007
>They aren't abandoning the desktop market.
You're right, they are conceding it to AMD, who will end up with a 50% market share in a few years.

There are other articles from business oriented sites with more info. I just picked that one because it was the first one I saw. I originally said "getting out of the x86 desktop GAME" because the roadmap for the next years is basically set. Quantum computing will begin to replace our current tech in about a decade.
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>>55246024

http://www.microcenter.com/product/437624/FX_8320E_Black_Edition_32GHz_Eight-Core_Socket_AM3_Boxed_Processor
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>>55246017
>gee is one person
Fuck you.
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>>55245935
Do you have an aftermarket cooler for the 6350? If you are just looking for an incremental improvement I would say just overclock the cpu you have and hold out to see how zen shapes up. If your main purpose for the upgrade is gaming those extra 2 threads won't make a massive difference, it's only really worth it if you have some workload that would benefit from more threads over higher clocks.
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>>55246070
He said 8370e. The 8320e is hardly an upgrade from a 6300 for gaming anyway. Unless he plans do do rendering.
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>>55246106
>cpu
>for gaming
wew
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>>55246053
they have a huge stock ready
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>>55246093
No aftermarket cooler; plus I don't want to bother with the OC. PS4 and XB1 can use up to eight threads. I want eight threads, and a lot of games see improvement with up to eight threads. For 20 bucks, why not? FX-6350 is a nice little CPU though.. want it?
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>>55246115
So why bother with the "upgrade" in the first place. Only proving my point more.
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>>55246140
see >>55246081
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>>55246093
>hold out to see how zen shapes up
Also I probably won't get a new mobo until I buy that HMD in a few years
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>>55246144
So are you just speaking for him like a retard? Stop being so autistic.
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>>55246151
holy shit it really is summer
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>>55245684
>The 1080 draws 180w from the 8 pin power connector, there's another 75w from the PCIe connection. 180w + 75w = 255w.

The 1080 only draws 175-180W (average, not counting sub-second spiking) under load from a total allowed budget of 225W.

> PCIe connection = 75W
> each 6-pin = 75W
> each 8-pin = 150W

That's still enough in a ~300 mm^2 die that thermal throttling is definitely a realistic concern though.
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>>55246069
>they are conceding it to AMD
Literally nothing in that article said that. Businesses aren't charities, Intel won't concede anything just because they feel bad for AMD.

>who will end up with a 50% market share in a few years.
How can you be this delusional?
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>>55246163
>The 1080 only draws 175-180W
citation needed, nvidia's specs are not to be trusted under any circumstance since they've been exposed as bullshitting these numbers countless times
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>>55246161
People who say summer are the people that came during the eternal summer. Just like newfags are the ones that say newfags and the millennials call other millennials millennials.

Someone that can't understand how conversations flow on anynomous boards obviously haven't been here very long.
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>>55246186
>Someone that can't understand how conversations flow on anynomous boards obviously haven't been here very long.
exactly the point being made against you, summerfriend.
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>>55246215
Whatever makes you feel better.
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>>55246182
The 180W limit seems pretty legit, if not really all that great for a 256b card with a 312 mm^2 GPU.
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>>55241028
When am I actually going to be able to buy this fucking thing? Will stores have it on the 29th, or will I have to wait another couple of weeks after that, or some bullshit?
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>>55246179
>Intel won't concede anything just because they feel bad for AMD
There's no more high profit margins for Intel like these last few years. They are moving in other directions.
>How can you be this delusional?
Why do you think the Brexit vote was 49 to 51? Or the popular vote in US presidental elections is often only 5%-10% different? This is a natural outcome if a duopoly has two competetive members, and like I said, the x86-x64 market will have matured with the launch of Zen.
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>>55246220
>There's no more high profit margins for Intel like these last few years.
You typically don't abandon a revenue stream prematurely though. As long as a market exists, Intel will cater to it. Shifting towards the cloud and ultra portables does not exclude them from making desktop CPUs. There's still a whole host of people who need high powered desktops, gamers aren't the only ones.

>This is a natural outcome if a duopoly has two competetive members
That's a big if.
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Thanks for reminding. Will be getting it, hopefully round 200€ price. Maybe 20-30 more for us eurofags.
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What's the point of the 8GB 480? 99% of games don't go over 4GB. And the 480 is too weak to "futureproof".
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>>55246395
Crossfire. Also Doom uses more than 4gigs with some settings. 480 is said to run it at Ultra 60fps stable.
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>>55246395
It's to keep dumbfag consumers from thinking that the anemic GTX 1060 with 6GB (192b) is a better card.
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>>55246395
Probably for the current CF method. I'm tempted for the extra 30USD, but considering mulitgpu will have a shared memory pool soon, it's not worth it.
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>>55241028
Reminder of what? Reminder to not give a shit?
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Why does the next gen version of the 7850 have so much hype?
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>>55245757
What? Why do you say this
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>>55245857
What the h*ck
What's the original of that thing
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>>55246458
Because it's really more like the 7870 getting released for $200 instead of $350 and the 7850 going for $150 instead of $250.

> and the 680/670 were just announced for $700/$450 instead of $500/$400
> and the 645/650/660 didn't exist, and the 640 was called the 660
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>>55246595
It only has a 256-bit bus, and a heavy OC on the core will starve it for bandwidth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dCz4Wt1Ek
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>>55246622
Not really, 7770 = 480

7970 = Fury
7870 = 490

But the 470 will be good.
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>>55245749
>stock 980 i.e. overclocked 970 performance.

for $200 that's still pretty nice, and it has more VRAM than the 970 at full speed, plus better dx12.
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>>55246649
no, I stand by my analogy -

> 7770/7750 = 123 mm^2 ~= Polaris 11
> 7870/7850 = 213 mm^2 ~= Polaris 10
> 7970/7950/7870 = 352 mm^2 <= Mini Vega?
> 7990 = 352 mm^2 * 2 >= Big Vega?
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I've got a 7970. Is it still worth upgrading to the 480?
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>>55246789
I have a 380X and I'm waiting for benchmarks, then probably Vega.
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>>55246789
I'd go for something at least as powerful as a 1070, famalam, even if for you that means waiting for cut down Vega.

Reduced power and maybe a 30-40% speed bump aren't a lot to write home about.
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>>55241028

>All these people talking about heat and fan blower

Really? Are there seriously people that don't buy Third party cards with non reference coolers?

I mean, I can understand buying a reference card if you're going to put it on water. But other than that, you'd have to be retarded.
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>>55245040
>buying reference

What.
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>>55246608

What if I told you anonkun, that WAS the original

http://www.cryorig.com/af41.php
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>>55245111
I'm totally buying a good 480 with extra pins and cooling, but I still don't think cf/sli a good idea. Maybe at some point down the road.

Buy a 1070 once the prices chill out.
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>>55246955
Reading between the lines, AMD's going with same-package CF starting with Navi.

Better hope that they get the software side of things straightened out before 2018.
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