What's the oldest CPU that's still out there in service, doing something important? I'm guessing the Motorola 68000 is still out there in some useful form to this day, doing something vital somewhere.
>>55208852
I wouldn't be surprised if someone still had a legacy system running on ENIAC.
>>55208852
Probably pentium 4 is out there in a lot of places that cant ever upgrade from xp.
>>55208896
>Pentium 4
>oldest still being used usefully
kek, not even close
>>55208881
I would be. Wouldn't there be a high maintenance requirement for something like that? Maybe in a museum somewhere but I don't think there would be one doing anything vital.
>>55208926
Don't underestimate the power of 'ain't broke, don't fix'
>>55208852
Voyager 1&2
They don't even have microprocessors.
>>55208936
Yeah, but are those technically CPUs? It's not really 'central' if it's a conglomeration, right? Honest question.
>>55208934
While this is a somewhat healthy attitude, this mostly stems from personal ignorance toward old technology.
When the last person that built a system is gone, the system could as well be a magical entity.
![IBM_4956-1-inside[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/79pRT6w.jpg "IBM_4956-1-inside[1].jpg")
The US military is still using IBM series 1 computers. Some of our nukes rely on computers that are 40 years old.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/05/26/the-real-reason-america-controls-its-nukes-with-ancient-floppy-disks/
Amiga had a 68k, right?
http://woodtv.com/2015/06/11/1980s-computer-controls-grps-heat-and-ac/
I'm guessing they replaced it by now though.
Fucking TI calculators
>>55209002
>Amiga
a-anon...
>>55208967
Yeah, it really depends if your boundary should be a single chip or a couple of boards. Even today that's kinda floating with still more stuff being integrated into a single die.
>>55209002
True, and a lot of home game systems used them, or variants of the 68K. So there's always that possibility, but I feel like there could be older ones out there doing something in some government building somewhere, sorting mail or processing SSN's or something legacy based.
>>55208992
NASA knows this first hand. They had to invest a bunch of money into doing figuring out how to recover data from some of their old systems, since everyone who worked on the stuff was dead or retired.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2525935/computer-hardware/the-lost-nasa-tapes--restoring-lunar-images-after-40-years-in-the-vault.html
>>55209018
Some of the folks I work with still use 1980's HP calculators for measuring, because they just don't trust anything more complex.
>>55209029
OP was talking about 68k doing something useful. I think it is definitely on topic, though not very old.
>>55208881
You're crazy. ENIAC is in a museum.
>>55208852
68k's
8088/6's
Z80's
They are used in pretty basic embedded systems everywhere, even shit like traffic lights to USB printers.
Slowly being replaced by ARM, but most thing what work won't be replaced for decades
What's the most obsolete architecture that's still out there in service, doing something important?
>>55208936
They used 8085's and last time I checked they where microprocessors...
Do your research pleb.
There was a PC running printer server with a 8088 or maybe even older inside a wall in a IT enterprise for like 20 years without anyone knowing, did it's job fine, that was like 6 years ago, dunno about now.
>>55209106
>They used 8085's
speaking of doing your research...
>>55208852
Motorola 68000 are still commonly used in simple PLCs. I'm sure there's something simpler still in use.
>>55209098
x86 isn't the MOST obsolete, but it's shockingly obsolete given how successful it is.
Not that ISA matters that much.
>>55208998
Now imagine what the russians are using
>>55209129
Sorry, remember'd now, it was not 8088 it was a 68k Sun machine.
>>55209106
So by that measurement, the 8085 has traveled the farthest of any CPU in miles (unless you count solar rotational measurements). That's a pretty boss achievement.
>>55209098
women
>>55209035
There might also be some arcades still running somewhere with 68k's
Also, slot machines I think had some microprocessors
>>55208852
NASA is still using 8086's
>>55209165
Low compute power on average, and they overheat a lot as they get older, but they have the most complex compiler systems around.
>>55209029
What?
Worked with a pentium 4 for a long time and only updated it this year
>>55209168
Did pinball machines use CPUs of any sort before video arcade systems were commonplace?
>>55209085
I work in embedded. There's a drawer full of Freescale 68ks in my lab. Why use other chips when we have megabytes of assembly already written for them?
Granted, we mostly do ARM and MIPS these days, but the 68k still goes into projects.
>>55209179
ded
>>55209188
Probably do nowadays, most likely using old chips
>>55209188
Pinball machines were largely mechanical. Nowadays they likely have have microcontrollers handling almost everything, a lot of them have video games embedded in them.
>>55208852
Whatever is in the two Voyager probes.
>>55209168
We still stick 68ks into lots of projects.
http://www.nxp.com/products/microcontrollers-and-processors/more-processors/coldfire-plus-coldfire-mcus-mpus:PC68KCF
>>55209176
>but they have the most complex compiler systems around.
Its a shame the debugger cant catch all the autists though
>>55208852
>What's the oldest CPU that's still out there in service
there are boomers who still force their entire company to utilize postwar shit.
Sparkler Filters of Conroe, Texas, prides itself on being a leader in the world of chemical process filtration. They use am IBM 402 punchcard machine because the company owner and baby boomer claims "it is a known entity. Everyone in the company knows how to use it not like those scary personal computer things".
they enter their customer's order in PUNCH CARDS. it links to a IBM 514 Reproducing Punch that is the size of a small room and then they store all their data on punch cards in cardboard boxes by the thousand. in 2016 they still do this. they have been petitioned by museums that would like to buy them a real accounting software and put it in an exhibit but the boomer owner is too afraid.
I could be wrong but I do not believe the 402 uses a CPU its so old its just a bunch of plugboards wired together.
>>55209205
The company is dead, the machine are pretty alive and running.
>>55209236
voyager I&II have 3 redundant computers. the data computer runs on a custom 4-bit CMOS microprocessor from 1977
>>55209418
This is the type of person who would freak out the first time a system security update installed. Incredible. Reliable, but incredible.
>>55209165
Edgy, glad us males are so perfect without any flavs.
*cough*/g/ cucks*cough*
>>55209418
Can't wait until Boomers die 2bh
>>55209462
8085
>>55208852
The original Intel x86 chips are still in use today in stuff like PLCs etc.
>>55209482
you can stop spouting this now.
http://www.cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html
>>55209476
my favorite part is how he states everyone knows punchcards the best
when boomers hire a millenial they arent seen as an employee more like an object of no more value than a chair or a pencil.
Probably Z80 (circa 1976, so older than Voyager!) is the oldest in any kind of practical use - and they are still being made today by their original manufacturer Zilog.
There are radiation-hardened versions from other licensed manufacturers in satellites, in particular.
The Intel 8080, a predecessor design of even that, might still be out there, too, although I'm not sure where exactly.
Apparently the US government still uses floppy disks in the ICBM systems. I imagine the government must have to old assume hardware on those systems
>>55209237
Some nice bullshit bro, a few years back I actually had an interview for a shite with Voyager 2 build team member who told me it's just basically a customised 8085.
Yeah, I'd like to see their source for the information. Everybody can do guesswork on some tiny bit of information.
>>55208852
There was an article about some middle school running dinosaur software for their HVAC. It was like a Mac 128k or some shit
Damn phone, this was for:
>>55209496
See
>>55209579
>>55209528
6502 is older than Z80 by a year and they're still found in some areas, usually they're used together with discrete logic chips. There's only one manufacturer left for them though and they're not used on anything new.
>>55209469
This is some crybaby shit lol
Thicken your skin or go back to Tumblr
>>55209580
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a16010/30-year-old-computer-runs-school-heat/
I have a PII 366mhz Thinkpad 600e for DOS games, still works and can connect to the Internet
>>55209579
so it's your word with no source agains the entire internet's word with no source
hmmmm
>>55209670
>entire internet
so that one site is the entire internet?
there are plenty of pages relating 8085 to the IC used on the Voyager 2.
Do you even google pleb?
Chemical company I work for is still using two first generation Pentiums to control water treatment plant. Control software is super proprietary, needs hardlock and special ISA cards to communicate with PLCs from the same era. It is doubled, but if both systems fails (and there is no replacement), it'll be massive shitstorm
I know that some primary Schools (Elementary) still use the BBC Micro in the UK.
Grannys Garden fuck yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_6r6_1D3M
if disinformation is accurate, pdp-11 systems still run nuclear power plants
>>55209732
The hardware is not really the problem here, the issue seems to be mainly the software which is probably locked up being proprietary. If the software were open source it would be possible to port it anywhere which could even allow hardware upgrades later on down the line.
If the software can run on obsolete hardware like that it could probably run on a raspi if there were a way to interface with the PLCs from it.
>>55209837
hardware is also a problem. these PLCs are communicating via serial line and the computer need a proprietary ISA card to read another proprietary communication protocol.
let alone the PLCs themselves, they are from the nineties and also on last leg
>>55208896
There are people here that still use Xbox (which use, what? Pentium 3?)
>>55210102
There are people here that still use an NES which uses a MOS 6502
>>55209732
>first generation pentiums
the ones that cant divide?
>>55208852
There's probably a PDP-8 or two still in service, especially one of the slower than shit low cost variants like the 8/S that were good for fitting into industrial machinery as controllers. There's also the usual nuclear meme shit; PDP-11s running plants and and IBM Series/1 minis running US silos
>>55208881
ENIAC was a single shot design, and tube systems just aren't sustainable. There were supposedly some railroad-related installations running on custom pre-transistor computer systems until at least 2001 though
>>55208852
Whatever runs the nuclear programs of the worlds and the space station
>>55209418
I don't see any problem with this. You can't connect a punch card machine to the botnet, it doesn't get hacked or require digital security of any kind and it'll last forever as long as you take care of it.
>>55208852
In the NGO i help they still use a 90mhz Pentium with 16 mb ram, Win95 and some old HP laserjet 6L for the notes, Office 97 is more than enough for those tasks..
>>55209418
the boomer bogeyman was still in diapers when that thing was installed you whiny turbo shitter
The chip(s) in early satellites and probes?
>>55210363
Even the newest satellites and probes tend not to use anything newer than a 486 because of radiation hardening.
>>55210378
You can buy rad-hardened G3s now, most of the real high-end shit is running RAD750s.
This page has a bunch of info on chips used in spacecraft:
http://www.cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html
>>55209418
>it doesn't get hacked
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Carmille
>>55211317
He obviously referred to cracking which requires internet connectivity.
It is absolutely no surprise that if someone with malicious intent has physical access to your box then you're absolutely FUCKED, and the military is far more competent at physical security than computer security.
Also, the US needs to stop this "cybersecurity" bullshit, jesus christ.
>>55208852
Anything in the DSL cable infrastructure.
>>55208852
Flight control still uses Fortran77 and some machines related to that
MIPS rXXXX is still widely used everywhere including in space flight.
>>55211087
Neat read, thanks Anon.
>>55209150
Probably almost identical shit. The soviets always made perfect hardware clones of western computers.
>>55211466
Why the fuck are you talking about hashes now? The concept is simple as fuck:
No internet connectivity == no possible internet security breaches
>>55211415
That's not even a joke tripnigger
>>55208852
i have a 386 based pc in my office, it is used to control our sewer system, over 20 years running fine.
The machine which is creating the numbers of many credit cards is a shitty Pentium 2 or 3 running Windows 2000 in a Swiss bunker.
>>55211562
>My office controls sewage
So it's literally shit, right?
The IBM computers that control our nuclear silos
Can confirm the Z80 is still flying on commercial flight engines.
>>55211764
Here's an ancient tube system that was still running at least in 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Css8m3gQ76w
Some Siemens/Bosch made ecu? on merc audi bmw and volvo? Some of them like made in 80/90s.
I have a Sandy Bridge that's pretty old running on my MacBook.
>>55208934
>'ain't broke, don't fix'
Until it does break and you have no replacement parts.
>>55212077
Then have replacement parts. Shit doesn't fail that often.
>>55209150
I remember that storytime about a guy in Ukraine who had some computer throwing errors and completely halting the countries water waste cleaners or something along those lines. So they had to call in a specialist who was like one of the last 3 people on Earth who knew about that computer, and he flew in from Mongolia and had to compare the Cyrillic system messages to his notes for hours. They later realized the system simply ran out of space, so they printed out some old data to free space up, and the system resumed.
wish I had it saved.
>>55209106
>>55209160
im pretty sure the 8085 is a microcontroller
>>55212143
That's the 8051, the 8085 is a full-blown microprocessor, compatible with the 8080.
>>55208852
65xx:
http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/
>>55208896
Our police department still uses Windows NT on a Pentium 2 to manage fines.
>>55211545
I'm not jocking it's the actual truth DSL infrastructures use alot of old very efficient micro controlers.
Computer like in pic related, Odra 1305 made by Elwro in communist Poland was shut down in May 1st 2010 after 34 years of allegedly failure-free work at Lublin-Tatary railway station.
It was capable of 300+ operations per second and ran an operating system called SODA.
>>55210264
Booty Blasted Boomer detected.
Funny thing is that some of the oldest running chips are those first ones put into cars. They'll be running for decades to come and car hobbyists will still be tinkering with them. Even cars from the 90s were using rather simple, and already old, chips like Z80s because they work, are easy to source, are hardened to the harsh conditions, and are powerful enough for the needs.
>>55212648
>It was capable of 300+ operations per second
300? Unless it's one of those drum based computers, this is wrong.
>>55208852
There was an article from a year or two ago where a university's HVAC system was controlled by a Commodore Amiga 2000. 68000 CPU.
Oh, no, wait, it's an entire school district, not a university:
http://woodtv.com/2015/06/11/1980s-computer-controls-grps-heat-and-ac/
>>55212776
I'm just quoting what I read about it. I have no way of veryfying the technical aspects of this machine.
>>55210129
>still use an NES
Plebs
>INTELLIVISION MASTER RACE
Something in old cars maybe?
>>55211494
>The soviets always made perfect hardware clones of western computers.
>>55212912
"perfect" is the keyword.
They got so good in stealing western aircraft design when their made their own prototypes they were encountering the same problems US did during their prototype phases
>>55212847
>Odra 1305
From google translate
speed:
a series of microcode : depends on the micro-instruction
read cycle memory : 1 ms
execution time of commands:
jump: 1 ms
Adding Fixed Point: 1.6 ms
multiplication Fixed Point: 9 ms
there is an error in the translation, it should be microseconds , not milliseconds.
This is a relatively fast machine, 600k additions per sec and 100k cations peer sec.
>>55212523
Yes, dipshit, I know, which is why I said that isn't funny.
Go back to fixing my dial up lines technigger.
>>55212973
oh mighty polish computing technology
Military version of Odra 1305 (Rodan 15) was used in czechoslovakian Tamara radiolocator which was used in Serbia to help the Soviet-made surface-to-air system shoot down the F117 airplane
>>55213009
I'm actually a general Cisco Nigger+ Laptop circuit fixer +bga reballer.
And I only work with Fiber instalations DSL is for niggers.
>>55208852
> 68000 is still out there in some useful form to this day
A year ago I was contracted to make a new version of software running on a 68332 in a medical device. Written in fucking Oberon.
So yeah, there are now hundreds of these things, running code written by a 4channer in a dead language on a 20-year-old 68k series processor, and your health might depend on one of them.
>>55213199
in my ER we got few monitors that run on WinXP embedded edition.
>>55213199
>Written in fucking Oberon
At least it wasn't C
>>55213256
I fucking wish it was C.
At least then I could've used an IDE that isn't operated exclusively with the middle mouse button, and understands ^C/^V.
>>55213345
>At least then I could've used an IDE that isn't operated exclusively with the middle mouse button, and understands ^C/^V.
No vi/emacs plugin for Oberon, I guess.
>>55208852
Do dot matrix displays use microprocessors, or microcontrollers? They've been used since the sixties and I'm willing to bet there's still some ancient displays running around out there in the wild
>>55213380
If I was autistic enough to use vi, I wouldn't have gotten the job.
>>55212912
Lots of their tech could run real western operating systems unmolested, they tended to use different kinds of connectors however.
>>55212120
Does anyone have a pic of this story?
>>55213524
>Lots of their tech could run real western operating systems unmolested, they tended to use different kinds of connectors however.
There was a pdp11 based home computer in Russia at some point in the 80's. I don't remember the details.
At my old company our ERP host server ran on HP-UX which I believe had a PA-8000 series processor from the 80s.
>>55213560
The Electronika BK0010, a clone of the Terak 8510, one of the first personal computers with graphics support.
>>55213569
PA-8K is like late '90s
>>55213560
BK-0010
>it had nogaems so I had to code my own
>>55213560
>>55213591
I remember those things being self-contained in the keyboard similarly to the '0010, guess not.
One interesting thing about the BK-0010 is that it's probably the closest thing the USSR had to an "official" home computer, I recall it had significant state backing, at least compared to other offerings of the time.
>>55213650
It WAS an official home computer, you could just go and buy one, but given the stratospheric prices of electronics in the USSR, few people did.
Then 1991 happened and homebrew ZX Spectrums destroyed it.
Factories and the like all use very very old tech. My cousin had special training to program machinery that still use punch cards for their programming.
Literally every processor out there is still being used since processors have been a thing.
First microprocessors ever built (if I recall correctly) was used in an F14.
They're still used by the IRAF
>>55209476
>Can't wait until Boomers die 2bh
A lot of Boomers feel the same. Good luck when your world is full of nothing but special snowflakes.
>>55212945
I wouldn't consider the aircraft they built total stealing. They were the guys with engineers who still drew planes by hand instead of using the computers provided by them when designing the MiG-29.
It may also be because of the abundance of Western unclassified sources. They were surprised they could find info about the F-15 just like that in magazines when they were designing a counter.
>>55209418
you're projecting your fear on other people, and fail to realize that it's not about fear, it's about principle. basically, you're really gay
We've got rovs using z80s still in service
>>55210169
My old coworker used to work for digital as an engineer, he definately still has his PDP-11 running in the basement.
>>55208852
z80s are old in still in everywhere
Also Probably 6502s
IGT's video machines use i960 CPUs. I used to walk by trays of them on the manufacturing floor when I wandered through.
>>55214732
My dad's cousin (not sure if that makes me second cousin or cousin once-removed or whatever the hell it is) was the last CEO of DEC. He was at the helm when they sold out to Compaq. They were really close growing up, pretty much like brothers. I was about halfway through my CS degree at UNLV and he told me he'd find me a job at DEC a few months before the end. I had a sad.
>>55209732
are u in ontario?
>>55209098
Well most obsolete would be Sandy-bridge
>>55208852
i know the Z80 is still being used in some of TI's graphing calculators.
>>55209511
>millenials are of no more value than a chair or a pencil.
Right
>>55215319
And they still cost $140.
>>55208852
arm nigga lmao
>>55215669
jews senpai
jews
>>55214732
That sounds pretty neat
>tfw missed out on a free MicroPDP-11 once because it was too far away
>>55208852
what CPU did they have in atari? i'm sure there are still working ones out there.
I worked at a $10b private company that had a 486 running a critical part of the voicemail system just 5 years ago. It's retired now, but there's probably worse happening at an even larger public company.
>>55214109
Every electronics in their F-14s was replaced since the embargo. It is embarrassing how brightly the Tomcats shining in sandniggers hand.
>>55209150
>>55209476
I'm sure boomers feel the same about you.
>>55209511
>when boomers hire a millenial they arent seen as an employee more like an object of no more value than a chair or a pencil
Not a boomer, but this is unfortunately more accurate than it should be.
>>55214199
>Good luck when your world is full of nothing but special snowflakes.
Gen-X will still be around for a bit. Those that didn't OD anyway...
We had a digital television switch a few years ago.
The old analogue transmitter was controlled by a computer (iirc it was an early commodore) with some custom hardware which recieved pulses over a microwave link (and injected pulses into the broadcast signal for telemetry purposes).
At the time, the transmitter was actually switched off at the end of the broadcast day. By 1995 they never turned the transmitter off, and by 2003 they ran 24/7 broadcasts, but the system was never removed.
Apparently the computer in the studio was removed in the nineties, so the one with the transmitter didn't do anything, but it still would have functioned if needed.
>>55212120
>>55213528
bumping for this
>>55209150
don't underestimate ruskie shit, despite being less advance than the west, Soviet space program have less accidents and failures compared to NASA
>>55208852
my 4770k is pretty old
Iirc from a documentary i watched a few years ago, there's a computer in Nasa that they never dare to switch off, because it's the only thing capable of interpreting the signals still being recieved from the voyager probes...
>>55208852
the DMV's computers
>>55221268
Loool
They literally burned dozens of cosmonauts, there are videos and audios of them screaming returning to surface, most only came to light after the fall of the USSR to not look bad on the face of the west
>>55219681
only thing embarrassing is lumping persians with arabs
>>55208896
I installed Ubuntu on a Pentium 4 powered pc ( 12 years old) and it can't correctly show text and icons inside the OS.
>>55221268
Only because they killed people intentionally
>>55212120
mongolians speak russian though
ukrainian is very cloes to russian so it wouldnt be hard
>>55221760
why not install some ancient linux distro then
>>55221656
source?
Probably those old thousand transistor dinosaurs in nuclear silos
>>55212892
I have an Atari 2000. Your turn.
>>55221972
Although I need to repair it's energy source, and I remember it running pacman properly 8 years ago
>>55221760
Ubuntu requirements are high. Try Lubuntu or PeppermintOS
Voyager 1 and 2
US military has all kinds of legacy equipment running vital systems and missile silos
Melbournes metro train system train control centre was built in the mid 1980s and is still using all the original computers, modern computers have to use emulators and shit to connect to it
>>55208852
Yes, the POTS system still runs off stuff built in the 50s. Shit just works famalam.
>>55209129
Urban legend. You couldn't just have a functioning server inside a wall for that long without anyone wondering why is there a wire going into the wall
>>55221972
Isn't Atari 2000 an extremely rare prototype?
>>55221656
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents#Astronaut_fatalities
Looks like the Soviets had less fatalities. Why do you think NASA uses the R7 soyuz rockets designed by the soviets in the 1960s?
>>55219681
This.
US Navy throws them away, meanwhile with some very basic upgrades and some maintenance they're fully capable of taking out 2016 produced jets.
It's the same as the SR-71. Retired in the 80s with their capability only finally being taken over by the fucking sentinel in 2010.
>>55223048
>Why do you think NASA uses the R7 soyuz rockets designed by the soviets in the 1960s?
Because the shuttle program cost a lot of money and yet didn't have enough invested in it to make it actually work correctly.
They're now designing the SLS with old shuttle parts, meaning they won't be able to launch for years because all the contractors who don't make said shuttle parts are going to sue because of the lack of competition.
Look forward to NASA using glorious master race ex-ICBMs from russia into the 2020s unless musk can get the reusable heavy development sped up.
>>55209106
Voyager 1 is running on RCA 1802 you fucking faggot. Do some research before you open the asshole you call a mouth, pleb.
>>55223173
The soviets obviously won the space race
>>55209476
sadly we have to pay for their pensions til they die.
Oldest chip CPU still in (limited) service is the Intel 4004. After that the Harris 6120 CMOS single-chip PDP-8-compatible CPU.
>>55223225
It's pretty fucking embarrassing, at this stage the first people on mars will be going on a spacex vehicle after being sent up on a soyuz
>>55223225
soviets won the cold war by losing it in the public sphere so communism could continue in the dark.
>>55223416
Its like State Monopolies and Communism are not the same thing...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Rockefeller
>>55221812
The specialist wasn't any of those though, he just flew in from Mongolia cause that's where he was at - possibly doing another job.
I wish I could find the story. I don't have it screencapped or saved, and google turns up nothing.
>>55223314
At least you can take comfort in the fact that you won't be placing a burden on later generations because you won't be getting any pensions or getting any social security (or accepting any social program benefits). You will be the generation that once again shows everyone how to save their money for their own medical expenses, retirement, and future needs, and not expect others to pay for them. Remember, in the end, every man is an island.
>>55208896
>Probably pentium 4 is out there in a lot of places that cant ever upgrade from xp
Until about 2013 my dad used a Northwood Pentium 4 2.8ghz cpu with a sapphire 9800 pro with windows 7(started with xp). I was really surprised how well it worked with W7. He only browses ebay, craigslist, and email. Sometimes pirates old westerns. Now hes rockin a q6600 with a asus 8500gt and windows 10. Works great for his needs. Just figured I would share that.
>>55223048
>implying the soviets didn't cover up every accident they could
>>55225039
Soviet government records were opened up, the list is accurate, capitalist pig.
I stumbled upon a Core 2 Duo the other day. Can't imagine there's anything out there much older in use.
>>55225150
I sincerely hope you're trolling
The oldest I have seen is my dad's tammy 1000.
>>55208852
HP 50g
>>55209418
I guess this is why they like new hires from university
>>55214199
Then the aggressive Indians/asians will take control with their dominance of Ivy League and that shit
>>55226585
>S3C2410 CPU released in 2003
That's not even close to the oldest CPU in a calculator still sold let alone the oldest CPU in general.
>>55209418
He looks just like I thought he would
What you guys don't realize is all this old shit we aggregate is a great source of Retro Mechanical Keyboards! Hooray!
Finally you can find your Mechanicameme to watch anime and use keyboard shortcuts!
>>55209604
>crybaby shit
anon had a point there, you're the crybaby for denying it
>>55208852
Don't know about old computers but the MTA often has open positions for COBOL programmers
>>55212945
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>>55221268
Russian clones are usually way more advanced then the hardware they are cloning.
For example, the 8086/8, the Russians made a clone even better than the NEC V20, a freaking 8088 running at 30MHz with full 286 instruction, but still 8088 compatible.
I own a clone like that. It's not pin compatible with DIP40 of the 8088, but it can be rewired on top on a different socket.
>>55213650
There where things like JUKU, more official home computer.
Things of that time are just badly documented, not to talk about the language barrier, but I have encountered many clones Russian from the early 70's to late 90's
>>55226843
>Russian clones are usually way more advanced then the hardware they are cloning.
That's because they start with someone else's work.
I can make an 8086 clone way more advanced than an original 8086 to. Doesn't mean I could have made the 8086 at the time/place it was first engineered.
>>55227272
>I can make an 8086 clone way more advanced than an original 8086 to
Do it and post vid.
>>55227272
>That's because they start with someone else's work.
That's the whole definition of clone. But they cloned them back when 8086/8 was still the main CPU on the market.
Your post looks like you're bragging that you can make your own.
>>55227272
Part of the Soviet charm imo, like the VAZ. Originally a Fiat but improved by the Russians for their own needs while the west developed entirely new and modern designs.
>>55219556
If you're thinking about the VCS, it uses a 6507, which is a cheaper 6502 that lacks a few features and can't address as much memory.
The consoles are pretty tough, mine still works flawlessly.
>>55227927
Isn't that the same one used in the Atari 2600?
>>55227940
The 2600 is a later renamed VCS, exactly the same bits, but in a different case. I think they changed it around the time of the 5200's launch.
>>55227977
Shit, for some reason I got confused with the Commodore VIC when I saw VCS..
>>55227521
>That's the whole definition of clone.
And the reason why they can improve on the original. But when it comes to Russian shit people tend to praise improvements like they're major and not expected when you're copying and therefore starting with most of the hard work done for you.
Russians (or Chinese) producing an improved clone does not make them technically superior to the people who made the original.
>>55228019
Surely though it proves a competent knowledge of integrated circuit design to be able to improve an existing design without breaking compatibility?
I'm fairly sure the Soviet Union cloned western CPUs not because they were incapable of developing their own designs, but rather it made sense to clone an architecture for which already had a plethora of software they could pirate. Also if they obtain top secret floppy disks but don't a computer that can run it then what is the point? That alone makes the clones worth making and creating a homegrown architecture would just be wasteful which is bad in a free economy, let alone a planned one.
>>55228019
The thing with Russian stuff is, they made a superior version of the same chip, they basically had a 286 before Intel did it.
>Russians (or Chinese) producing an improved clone does not make them technically superior to the people who made the original.
It does not make them superior, but it does not make them any less worse then the original developer either.
Some things are harder even to clone then to start from zero.
>>55228093
This exactly, people usually don't know how the USSR worked.
Computers at the factory i worked at a few years ago had some pretty old looking stuff.
They had those ugly beige cases and were filled with shit.
No idea how they survived, it was always 100-110f throughout.
>>55208852
AMD FX series
It's been several decades since AMD has released something new
>>55228258
But gaymeing ain't vital.
>>55228140
Found out about the USSR through Call Of Duty as a kid and now I know the reasons for their CPU industry to clone western designs....what a journey..
>>55208852
Z80 is still the main cpu for the f-14, f-15 and older block f-16 hud.
>>55208852
the 68k is only recently (last 10 years) entering its last legs of use, and it's probably not even close to the oldest
The Z80 is another crazy common chip.
there's probably something older out there doing heavy lifting still, but I can't think of it offhand
>>55219715
kek
>>55228540
and the british Tornado, even the soviets use z80 clone for the mig-29 iirc
>>55225017
My dad's computer is a Pentium 4 (2.4 Northwood, that's the fastest the NB is compatible with) Dell running XP.
It boots in under 30 seconds, and is still kept up-to-date with the POS updates (because I set itup for him).
Struggles with anything more than basic web browsing and typing stuff, but that's all he needs it for.
>>55228120
>they basically had a 286 before Intel did it.
When did that happen? Most Soviet chips I see seem to be dated long after the 286 was old news, the military seemed to have a thing more for the PDP-11 based systems, high-end PC compatibles looked like they were based on unenhanced 8088 clones
>>55231276
I owned a 8088 clone what ran at 12MHz dated 81'
That was even before the NEC V20.
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>>55231276
Forgot to add, it also had a faster addressing mode then the original 8088.
