This is slower than fucking Tor. I couldn't even get any peers or anything, let anyone visit a site in the network. And, yes, I did configure Firefox correctly.
>>55197571
nice blog post you pedophile faggot
>>55197662
>Tor and i2p are only used by pedophiles LMAO!
Getting really tired of this meme.
>>55197670
>he think is a meme
It's for CP
>>55197726
Nah, I like to go on the Forum and shitpost
>>55197670
yeah ok, you just went trough the trouble of installing i2p for the heck of it
and you're still a faggot for blogging about it, pal
>>55197750
But it was no trouble at all.
>>55197755
figure of speech
Don't use this shit, retard.
If someone wants, they could compromise this shit with just 10 (ten) clients.
Devs know about this, but they cannot do shit because attack is based on major flaw in the core concept.
>>55197859
Pretty thin on detail there famalamadingdong. You wouldn't be spreading lies on the internet now, would ya?
>>55197737
Why you use i2p? Do you live in Putin land or North Korea...
>>55197571
>i2p is merely intolerably slow rather than actually impossible to use
Wow, I guess you got lucky.
>>55197670
Over 80% of hidden service traffic is associated with child porn, i2p is 100% pedo. Shut the fuck up. Tor and i2p never saved proud journalists working hard for human rights in some third world shithole country
>>55198016
>citation needed
>>55197670
>i2p
>normal shit
Fuck off delusional degenerate
>>55198070
T-they have a shitty forum though...
>>55198070
There's an official tracker fuck lord
What's i2p and will it get me pussy?
>>55198040
Here's your citation
>https://www.wired.com/2014/12/80-percent-dark-web-visits-relate-pedophilia-study-finds/
>>55198070
Said like a true member of the Stasi.
>>55198144
ITS A FUCKING GIMMICK JESUS CHRIST...
is there a good imageboard on i2p?
>>55198167
It's never a gimmick, silly. Posted from i2p routed from inside a Tails VM.
>>55198147
it can get you a gang bang in a pound-me-in-the-ass prison for a few years
>>55198208
W H Y ?
H
Y
>>55198177
Because Stasi totally exist nowadays and it's because of Stasi that there's no country in the world where your particular flavour of porn can be hosted, right? So you really need to hide it in some darweb.. right, child fucker?
>>55197904
"Putin land" is unironically more free than the country of the free
Literally no fucks given for literally anything
>>55198242
s/childfucker/terrorist
It's all the same to you faggots.
>>55198270
And the government there literally gives no fucks either. Which is why the mob controlled the fucking country for decades (probably still does)
>>55198270
>post cp, drug etc (of course i never)
>nothing
>post anti putin shit
>your internet always upload
>your ui is at 100% in the middle of the morning
>you don't have the same ip/ISP and you don't know why
Welcome in Russia
>>55198348
>>55198369
>I've never been in Russia
Nice memes, anyway, really nice.
>>55198396
IT's common knowledge
>>55198208
We still wait, why you use i2p router?
>>55198412
No, it's memes. Travel to Russia sometimes or watch something that ain't Fox News.
>>55198208
I thought 4chan blocked all tor nodes or whatever, how do you?
>>55198242
Picture this: You're a Swedish politician in Europoor land that wants to organize an anti-immigrant movement, but you can't without being fined and punished for wrongthink. Or how about someone that wants to write literature that would strongly violate local anti-blasphemy laws?
Basically, in your opinion, how does one circumvent unjust, illiberal laws without taking advantage of something like a darknet? If you can come up with a good solution, I'll concede.
>>55198335
Do you mean that child fuckers are unjustly persecuted?
>>55198449
What do you think happened when the USSR collapsed and the free market in Russia was introduced.
>Log on to i2p
>Go to identiguy.i2p
>See all the links
That's when I uninstalled i2p, no thanks
>>55198467
All pedophiles need to be tracked down to face justice. Anyone who posts pictures of children on this site is a pedophile. The only reason they post cartoons or "softcore" pictures is because they can't get away with posting the hardcore stuff they have stored on their hard drives.
Pedophiles are a very small percentage of the population, and the rest of us are DISGUSTED with you and aren't going to put up with your mental disorder.
I might be Heaven, but I'm bringing you Hell.
>>55198494
why? what did you see?
>>55198512
It's a crawler for lack of a better word that indexes sites and pings them to see if they're online. There are some sketchy links I didn't click.
>>55198467
Do you mean terrorists are? kek
I'm merely pointing out that some people will always find demons to justify applying limits to personal liberties. It doesn't matter what it is.
Take yourself back to prohibition for example. No good man takes to the drink, right? You can be the nicest, and most morally right person on the planet, but if you have a drink, you're CLEARLY a degenerate.
>>55197726
I order my drugs off of there.
>>55198461
Find me one (1) hidden service that served or serves the purpose of helping the human right freedom to the self-determination of nations, or shut up.
If SwedishCucks have illiberal laws, they should fight the laws, not circumventing them.
No one goes through the hidden service gimmick if not for the purpose of circumventing rules applied in any country (on drugs, terror, human trafficking, porn and so on).
>>55198541
Yeah but where do you have them sent to? An abandoned house?
>>55198504
Anonymoose
We r leegin
>>55198529
>Do you mean terrorist are?
Are you brain damaged?
>I'm merely pointing out that some people will always find demons to justify applying limits to personal liberties
>fallacious prohibitionist era parallelism
So, you really, really believe that child fuckers are unjustly persecuted?
Tell me more, I'm so interested in learning your story.
>>55198553
My home
>>55198588
>I live in an abandoned house
>>55198548
Have you considered that not every human right activist or persecuted person relies on a darknet website alone? Perhaps maybe they use the network for OTR chat? By using the hidden services, it doesn't require they visit a darknet webpage that "serves the purpose of helping the human right freedom to the self-determination of nations".
You're asking for one very particular use case which likely doesn't exist whereas others do.
>>55198597
It's safer than you'd think
>>55198541
thanks for confirm my point, it's for pedos and druged, all the other things are meme
>>55198588
>>55198606
That sounds pretty sketchy actually, I wouldn't feel comfortable giving a stranger my home address
>>55198016
>Over 80% of hidden service traffic is associated with child porn
No, it isn't. Have a citation or are you talking out your ass? If you hate Anonymity so much, why are you here?
have any north korean ever posted on this page?
>>55198608
>meme
Fuck off
>>55198605
>human right activist
Name one. That's the favourite motto of the torproject ("it helps muh human right activists!") and then they are just a bunch of sexually confused SJWs fighting muh rape culture (inside their own movement!)
>>55198652
Nice argument XD, pedo...
>>55198642
A citation has been provided.
>>55198641
Yea there is always a risk of the vendor using your address in a mal-intended way; however, most markets have review systems, and you can look at these reviews to be certain the vendor is legit.
>>55198653
>Name one
Why should that matter? I don't keep up with my human rights activists brosef and if I did I wouldn't share them here.
Just admit you're quite narrow-minded and go back to mlp.
>le journalist meme in north korea
100% percent of the time is conspiranoic shit I see on youtube.
>muh federal reserve
>muh second admentmend being taken down
What else is there that isn't assasination forums, cp imageboards, drug markets?
I was looking for ayy lmao secret shit, but is the same garbage I find on 4chan and the new age pages.
I see worse shit uploaded to youtube if you're buying the journalist meme.
>>55198642
>You're either totally anonymous or you don't care about anonymity AT ALL
Oh, that fallacy.
I don't care about being anonymous to LEAs and to chink moot - and chink moot doesn't care to host a hidden service.
You don't care too.
>>55198653
Since when do feminists use TOR you fucking idiot. Stop thinking that screaming feminazi's is the answer to everything you fucking monger.
>tinfoil retards think using linoox make them safe
>meanwhile ISIS members use windows and post on facebook and twitter
>>55198694
>Why should that matter?
Because hidden services are the last thing muh human right activist would use in an allegedly "terror" country with heavy censorship and the like.
There's no PRACTICAL "human right activist" protection involved in these darknets, it's all CP and drugs. It never served these purposes. The "defence of free speech" is a strawman.
How can I post fully anonymously on 4chan?
>>55198743
>Since when do feminist use TOR you fucking idiot.
Educate yourself about the Applebaum's affair, you fucking kid, and learn to read.
>>55198746
And get fucking destroyed in drone strikes.
Based Obama
>>55198746
>and they aren't caught
makes you think, huh... what's the nsa good for besides corporate espionage
>>55198751
You can't.
Why would you?
>>55198793
>Why would you?
Why wouldn't I?
>>55198749
So you are saying, without question, that there are absolutely 0% of people that use tor that would class themselves as human rights activists?
What "PRACTICAL protection" isn't offered? It was enough to give Edward Snowden practical protection from the most powerful intelligence agency in the world.
>It never served these purposes. The "defence of free speech" is a strawman.
You speak in absolutes. All or nothing. Just one example wrecks your position. Just because there may be more of one use taking place, doesn't make other uses redundant.
>>55197670
Fine they are also used by druggies and edgelords who heard the shitty creepypastas
>>55198811
Because law applies to anyone, and abuse is too easy when there's no trail at all. That's why proxies (not just open proxies, any kind of proxy), VPN and Tor are banned.
Why would you feel the need to be entirely anonymous to LEAs and chink moot in a site hosted in a country where freedom of speech is granted to anyone, aliens and not?
>>55198840
>there are absolutely 0% of people using Tor for noteworthy causes and that would get unjustly in trouble otherwise
Yes, prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
>Just one example wrecks your position.
I'm waiting.
>>55198270
This.
Burguerland is nº1 in NSA surveillance.
>>55198746
ISIS is funded by the USA you retard
>>55198864
Because I wouldn't want one of the mods to leak my IP
>>55198887
>there are absolutely 0% of people using Tor for noteworthy causes and that would get unjustly in trouble otherwise
>Yes, prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
You have reworded what you yourself said. You initially said there were no human rights activists using tor, which I disputed and you now deny by: moving the goalposts by changing it to "noteworthy causes" that "would get unjustly in trouble otherwise". This is dishonest shitposting.
>I'm waiting
I have already given it to you. You're just too dumb to comprehend it.
>>55198887
Since you make the claim, you provide the proof. It's not up to others to disprove, faggot.
>Just one example wrecks your position.
>I'm waiting.
>>55198840
>What "PRACTICAL protection" isn't offered? It was enough to give Edward Snowden practical protection from the most powerful intelligence agency in the world.
>Edward Snowden practical protection from the most powerful intelligence agency in the world.
>Edward Snowden
Getting it yet?
>>55198989
Your IP means absolutely nothing to anyone but the police.
>>55198994
>you goalshifted
Absolutely not. Are you saying that "human right activists" are not fighting for "noteworthy causes"? Conceding not just "human right activists" but "noteworthy causes activists" as a possible range of operators and users (alternative to the classic pedo/druggie dichotomy) was actually conceding for a wider audience. Such audience doesn't exist anyway
>You're too dumb to comprehend it
Stop staring at the mirror.
>>55199075
not him but what about Edward Snowden?
>>55199080
Someone could get their hands on my IP and dox/harass me
>>55199080
So, again, you are claiming, without question, that there are absolutely 0% of people that use tor that would class themselves as human rights activists? Yes or no please.
Also, like >>55199075 says, you made a claim, you provide proof. Not the other way around.
>>55199075
>I can't get a SINGLE fucking example that isn't drug and CP
>the burden of proof is on you
k, pedo
>>55199140
>makes a claim based out his ass
>doesn't provide proof
>ad hominem
wew, sure is amateur hour in here.
>>55199124
Let's say 10% (in reality only ~5 people ever used it that way) of all tor traffic is legitimate, that would still leave you with a network that is 90% junkies and pedos.
>>55197726
She is a qt.
>>55199276
she don't like beta, she is only 18.
>>55199330
blacked
>>55198677
https://www.wired.com/2015/01/department-justice-80-percent-tor-traffic-child-porn/
and an article from the same source.
The website contradicts itself, and Wired isn't very reputable as a decent source. But it fits your agenda and your feelings so you posted it. It could have been Sun Tabloid Magazine and you would have posted it.
>>55199573
LOL JUUUST REKT
>>55198677
"
Department of Justice flack said Caldwell was citing a University of Portsmouth study WIRED covered in December. He included a link to our story. But I made clear at the time that the study claimed 80 percent of traffic to Tor hidden services related to child pornography, /// not 80 percent of all Tor traffic. ///
"
What the fuck is this shit about NothingToHide and letting NSA get all your data?
FUCK YOU. If it weren't for you there would not be Tor. THE FUKING NAVY is the nº1 funding the Tor project. Guess for what purpose they use it.
If I2p is an alternative, and the spooks dare to shitpost here against it, I support it.
If it was for me every fucking person on this planet would bear a badge online telling who they really are so we know who are shills and shit, but FUCKING NSA are the nº1 assholes hiding themselves online and they don't want anybody else than THEM hiding.
FUCK YOU
what's the best tor chan?
>>55199923
>being this paranoid to think the NSA have planted spies in 4chan /g/
>>55199958
torchan
FUCK YOU NSA
>>55200151
Fuck le government! xD
>>55198270
>Russia
>More free than anywhere
You can get a few years in the gulag for a gram of weed in Russia.
>>55200206
But that's wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country#.C2.A0Russia
Marijuana laws in Russia are actually more relaxed than in the U.S.
>>55200114
NSA shill detected
>>55200380
Paranoid schizophrenic freak detected.
>>55200382
Quit.
>>55200400
I feel bad for you. Honestly there's no way for me to prove to you that I'm not some "NSA shill" but the fact that you think I am is just depressing, assuming you aren't trolling.
>>55200382
>Being secure in your online activities is equivalent to a psychotic mental illness.
>>55200429
He keeps unironically thinking I work for the NSA.
>>55197859
Yes I2P is vulnerable to Cybil attacks, but it would take way more then 10 nodes to attack the network.
>>55200435
>implying the NSA doesn't use private contractors
>implying Snowden wasn't one itself
>implying someone working for NSA will ever admit that
>>55200419
> I'm not an NSA Shill
> But I just want to deny all information leaked about NSA's spying and covert online activities.
> You have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
> Tor? Are you a psychotic schizophrenic freak? Hey look everybody- He's mental!
> I bet you wear a tinfoil hat!
> Wikileaks? That's just conspiracy theories, anon.
>>55200453
So you are paranoid
>>55200457
Except you literally are paranoid because you think I work for the NSA.
>>55200471
May not work for them, but you do a well enough job of shilling their beliefs and ideas.
>>55200515
I use Tor and have used i2p fucko
>>55200526
What are you? Paranoid?
>>55200544
No, I don't think everyone that doesn't use Tor is a secret NSA agent.
>>55200545
Why are you defending the NSA again? Why do you cover any suspicion by accusing of paranoia again?
>>55200567
I'm not.
>>55200570
Oh yes you are. But you don't want to stop, right?
>>55200595
When do I defend the NSA? I defend myself from baseless accusations.
>>55197605
>>55197611
>>55197622
Sicker than your average nigger killer
>>55198548
what if i want to google the church committee documents without having my ip show up in .gov audit logs? what if i want to background check the owner of my laundromat and don't want it tied to my name? what if i want to order a surprise party for my wife and not have it show up in my browser history or send emails to my main email address? what if i want to watch youtube videos that are ip restricted to another country? what if i want to search for local sex offenders and don't want my ip to show up in some megan's law website audit log? what if i need to test something on a blog i have and need to have free anonymous proxies that i can cycle through? what if my smartphone app needs to have proxy support and i have to test it in the real world? what if my server side app has tor and proxy filters in .htaccess or mod_security and i need to test it? what if i want to look at sexy moot pics but don't want anyone to know how gay i am?
nothing illegal at all you fascist pig.
>>55199239
still no probable cause.
>>55199593
right, so you're lumped in with pedos because you use the same pipes. by that logic they should be able to track every vpn on the planet if even one vpn user decides to do something illegal. insane overreach.
>>55200774
> you're lumped in with pedos because you use the same pipes
I also commute using the same roads that other people use, some of them criminals and possibly pedophiles.
By your analogy, I am lumped in with them as well.
>>55198548
Wikileaks. Information Exchange. Intel exchange. Stop Iraqi Violence CRTA. VOAL China Freedom. Free North Korea. Vietnamese Political Corruption forum.
There was also one where a worker videotaped poor conditions in chicken-factories, specifically unsanizitized debone and poor conditions in kill department, which resulted in many people sick and a prosecution toward the company without recourse to the employee.
Without Tor, those discussions would probably not be possible without recourse from their Governments.
>>55199239
> Let's say 10% (in reality only ~5 people ever used it that way) of all tor traffic is legitimate, that would still leave you with a network that is 90% junkies and pedos.
Except it's not, and that's wrong.
> Junkies
> Pedophiles
Only one of these is morally wrong.
>>55200726
i wonder what percentage of tor traffic is for tranny porn. SOMEONE COMMISSION A STUDY.
>>55201175
In some countries, it is very illegal to access tranny porn. Sentences can range from jail to death.
>>55201416
That's fucked up
>>55197571
I2P? More like Learn 2 Play.
>>55202280
Not funny
>get on I2P
>click some links, go to a chan
>has CP board, eh try to click
>loading takes AGES
>messages comes up from site owner with my REAL IP and says not to use I2P for this kind of thing or he will report me
>f5 the page, message is gone, board's only post is a trollface image
spooked ever since, never went back on i2p
not even sure how that was possible, around 2011
>>55199170
>>55199124
>>55199075
>The burden of proof is on you
>You have to prove something that doesn't exist
Hue. Look up "probatio diabolica".
You can prove something that exist, not something that doesn't exist.
If a sentence is false given a single occurrence of the contrary (i.e. "All the cats are black" , with cats=infinite or not countable), the burden of proof is the one arguing against that sentence (i.e a single cat is not black).
Note that the same applies in criminal cases, in accusatory systems. One has not to prove something that doesn't exist, since you can't prove that. A failing in proving that by the one who is accused = the "beyond every reasonable doubt" clause is not met.
But you are prolly some fucking fascist, pretending to be anarchist. Colour me surprised
>>55199075
Snowden did not use Tor to fight for human rights violated in his country, regardless of the fact one could really consider him just a traitor. Unless we're saying that the US of A is worse than Hitler, he's not facing a fair trial in his country and he did nothing for better the human rights of his citizens.
>>55199573
>>55199593
Learn to read. Re-read >>55198016
>>55201416
I see nothing wrong with that.
>>55197859
I am an ex-I2P developer. You're talking bullshit.
If you mean Sybil attacks, that's what the shitlisting mechanic was for, along with my proposal to use a Hashcash variant as a proof-of-work function to prevent node spamming. (It didn't get used, however someone did pick up an idea to use it in a cryptocurrency and obviously that worked out pretty well, all things considered.)
Predecessor attacks as on GNUnet don't work as-is due to the formatting of the garlic routing.
If you're aware of another important attack, paper link or GTFO.
That doesn't mean it's without flaws; many of the same flaws as Tor in fact. Tor has the strong advantage of having a much larger anonymity set and is for that reason much stronger in practice for most use.
I'm currently designing stronger networks capable of resisting global attackers, because in my view the emergence of more pervasive mass surveillance from Nation State Adversaries demands a stronger mixing model.
Oh and the study above cited by Wired done by Gareth? The results are flawed, due to a bot run by the UK Internet Watch Foundation running concurrently to the research period performing repeated malformed uncashed hidden service lookups for the 10 or so CP sites that existed at the time. In any case, that study attempted to measure lookups, not traffic, visits or unique users. A bit like trying to measure DNS via DNS cache queries, only worse.
>Oh and the study above cited by Wired done by Gareth? The results are flawed due to a bot
Well no, at best you could have attempted to use the argument that 2% of the Tor traffic is direct to hidden services and 80% of long-living hidden services are associated with child porn, given that such is the "surviving percentage" of onion services in a six-months span. This high CP percentage is more associated to the mortality of onions, since, you know, the vast majority of the onions are total bullshit and doomed to disappear. The only ones with a real reason to last in the darknets are the ones connected with CP (the remaining I'd guess are connected with drug and related services, like darknet mail)
Nowadays with that ricochet thing there's a spamming of new onion addresses, counting those as web sites would obviously be totally unfair. So I'd be totally against counting the total number of onions.
According to Cloudflare and similar firms, the remaining Tor traffic (not directed to hidden services) is almost exclusively abuse and spam.
>10 clients enough to gather info
I guess he confused freenet with i2p (both useless, but a different flavour of useless)
>http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/crime-and-courts/3889186-child-porn-case-former-und-police-officer-moves-federal-court
>>55198683
what market do you use? after agora died I haven't used any
>>55202600
better test your browser settings against some privacy sites
>>55203241
I was using the default install...
>>55202758
A floodfill attack on i2p isn't comparable to an attack performed by a global adversary on Tor.
>>55203063
Ricochet existed at the time. So did at least one botnet using Tor as a C&C communication method. I couldn't, and wouldn't, attempt to guess.
Contradicting Cloudflare, who will not provide any data citing it as proprietary and requested Tor add user-tracking (we may be unable to reach consensus on that!), Akamai found the proportion of malicious traffic coming from Tor exit nodes is unremarkable, which honestly surprised me. More comes from actual botnet than from Tor.
I won't dwell on Freenet. I talked with Ian about it at the time.
>>55203289
Tor's directory authorities are its countermeasures, as a measure of centralised control. I don't consider the removal of autonomy a great solution to network DoS, personally.
Still, newer designs are stronger against both.
>>55202686
>Snowden did not use Tor to fight for human rights violated in his country
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
> In June 2013, whistleblower Edward Snowden used Tor to send information about PRISM to The Washington Post and The Guardian.[143]
Mass surveillance violates the fourth Amendment of the U.S Constitution.
> “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ruled that mass surveillance is illegal
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/20/human_rights_court_rules_mass_surveillance_illegal/
> Snowden was a Traitor
> Traitor: a person who betrays someone or something, such as a friend, cause, or principle.
I'm sorry. Did Snowden swear oath to the U.S Government or did he take an oath to the people of the United States of America?
I reread it. He doesn't know what he's talking about, and it was disproved with this post. Tor has helped journalists.
See >>55200929
>>55197670
I can't wait till tor and i2p usage is a crime.
>>55198952
saved
>>55202686
>Snowden did not use Tor to fight for human rights violated in his country, regardless of the fact one could really consider him just a traitor. Unless we're saying that the US of A is worse than Hitler, he's not facing a fair trial in his country and he did nothing for better the human rights of his citizens.
You can't be fucking serious.
Leave pedo's alone! *MOST* are harmless and would never harm a child. There are plenty of rapists out there however.
>>55202686
in case of passwords you do have to prove that it doesn't exist though, "i forgot it", is pretty sketchy
in some jurisdictions, anyway
>all this anti-Tor and anti-I2P shilling
wew
proxies are a mess
>>55200114
If you've been here long enough, you'd know moot dropped his pants for the g man long ago. This isn't really an anonymous site anymore. It hasn't been for sometime.
>>55202600
What browser were you using
>>55205597
Are you saying that Snowden is a hero fighting against an evil oppressor?
>>55208440
>In case of passwords you do have to prove that it doesn't exist
If you have to prove that a password doesn't exist, then the prosecutor has proven that a password DOES exist. The "I forgot it " is an implicit acknowledgement about the existance of the password.
In a different scenario, e.g. a drive filled with totally random data AND no headers (i.e. PLAIN dm-crypt) no prosecutor can guess there's a password (at least, not just by looking at the data) and you don't have to say that you forgot something your prosecutor hasn't proven to exist.
>>55205270
>PRISM
not a violation of a human right
>Mass surveillance violates
Nothing. Read the PATRIOT.
>ECHR
You didn't even attempt to read the sentence.
>>55200929
>Wikileaks
Not dealing with human rights, actually using the freedom of speech facade to expose perceived baddies in violation of any fair trial; it's one of the most outrageously violation of human rights itself.
>Intel exchange
Not human rights
>Iraq, China, North Korea, Vietnam
Never ever been relevant in any of these scenarios.
>Without Tor those discussions would probably not be possible
"Discussion" about any of these topics happen on daily basis without the use of the hidden services, that are simply completely irrelevant.
>>55209701
If it hadn't been for the Snowden revelations the general public would still be in the dark about what the NSA is doing and support for organizations like the EFF wouldn't have gained traction.
