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>>55196159
(you)
Can we have one thread where people doesn't reply to the trolls ? I'm starting to get bored of all those
>arch users are faggots
>stallman is pedo
>gnu/linux vs linux
I still don't get the point of all those discussions.
In the process of setting up ubuntu mate in virtualbox for my first time, total linux noob
I got a question for vim regulars who have tried evil mode on emacs. How good and accurate is it for a vim emulation.
>>55196284
>Ubuntu
see >>55196159
>>55196159
That's nice darling, I prefer slackware personally.
>>55196297
Sorry
>>55196279
Calm down newfriend, it's 4chan. A website where people enjoy acting retarded.
>>55196284
Install Arch if you actually want to learn about the inner workings of Linux.
>>55196368
Thank you, i will look into it
>>55196293
It's pretty reasonable. Some things don't work entirely as expected, like I think gqap or ^L to clear the screen, though I think the former is probably related to settings I haven't found (yet). About the first thing I missed was surround.vim, but evil-surround seems to be a perfect replacement. I'm one of those weird people who like hybrid line numbers, so linum-relative is a must. Emacs code-folding is also kind of bullshit, so I also use evil-vimish-fold, which is Good Enough. There's a bunch of blog posts by people who have tried going from one to the other if you want to try it yourself. "From Vim To Emacs in Fourteen Days" was a decent one as was "From Vim to Emacs+Chaotic Evil Migration Guide".
>>55196368
ayylmao
stop breeding newfags running arch, zsh and powerline but don't even know how to mount a cd image
i wanna try a new linux distro. should i choose manjaro, opensuse, fedora or something else? i have only used debian based distros up until now.
i dont configuring shit and googling errors constantly so im looking for something that just werks
>>55196368
Arch is for advanced users.
>>55196400
If you want to use a 'just werks' distro that isn't a complete joke (like the distros you mentioned in your post) install Debian.
>>55196368
Please stop spreading this meme. You'll learn more from slackware than you would from arch.
>>55196400
Try bunsenlabs. It's basically the same as crunchbang was: Debian, prericed and nicely configured.
>>55196381
OK, so all I need is a bit of tweaking and it will be a perfect emulation for vim?
>>55196432
>>55196368
install gentoo
>>55196279
>arch users are faggots
But it's true, here's proof.
>>55196475
I said 'reasonable', not 'perfect', but it's worth giving a shot if only for the learning experience and trying to understand the overall appeal and potential. Evil does still seem to get improvements from time to time, iirc.
>>55196476
But the gentoo, Like the Arch install, is merely copy and pasting commands from an install guide.
>>55196513
Installing Ubuntu is merely clicking a few buttons that copy and paste the commands for you. Your point?
>>55196528
The best distro is the one which is the most difficult to install, because it provides the hugest epenis.
>>55196553
does the size even matter when everyone is anonymous anyway?
>>55196553
Install Linux From Scratch then and be happy
Gentoo is for people that are too dumb for LFS
>>55196528
The guy I replied to implied that the Gentoo install taught you about Linux.
>>55196642
>implying implied implycations
>>55196642
With Gentoo, you actually configure Linux, while on Arch, you just get the vanilla kernel.
>>55196687
No you don't actually have to configure your kernel. You can run genkernel.
>>55196642
Ah. It does, to a certain degree. You get to put many of the pieces together yourself and see how they fit together. You also learn about your packages by being exposed to their compile-time options and USE flags. I'd argue he's right on that point versus Arch, which uses binary packages, and the install is a bit more involved than Arch iirc. Just because you're following a document doesn't mean you aren't learning. Unless you're just blindly copying+pasting and then bitching on IRC that nothing works. Then you're just an idiot.
>>55196696
>can
>>55196687
You do realise you can set kernel parameters before running mkinitcpio, right?
>>55196716
And why wouldn't a new Linux user do that? Besides configuring your kernel doesn't teach you anything, except pressing Y to enable support for something.
>>55196697
Ok, so you learn about USE flags, a feature unique to Gentoo and Gentoo derivatives. You don't learn anything specific to Linux just by reading the Gentoo handbook.
>>55196728
What's your point?
>>55196735
>why wouldn't a new Linux user do that?
Learning about Linux and configure it to his needs?
>>55196735
By "Linux" are you referring to the kernel, shared userland tools, or something else? The handbook touches on both the kernel and the userland tools as well as gentoo-specific tools, and the Arch wiki covers the same topics, so I'm not sure I'm following you.
>>55196758
Sorry you're having trouble following me. Arch doesn't teach you anything just like Gentoo doesn't teach you anything.
>By "Linux" are you referring to the kernel, shared userland tools, or something else?
I'm referring to the Operating System, linux.
>>55196159
>>55196368
>>55196432
>>55196476
>>55196553
>not reading LFS
>not making its own distribution
bunch of newfags. Enjoying your summer holidays ?
>>55196740
My point is >>55196687 is a clueless shitposter
>>55196779
>I'm referring to the Operating System, linux.
Is this bait?
>>55196756
genkernel configures your needs automatically.
>>55196791
Go away and take your genkernel with you, newfag. Adults are talking.
>>55196790
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
>Linux (pronounced Listeni/ˈlJnəks/ LIN-əks[9][10] or, less frequently, /ˈlaJnəks/ LYN-əks[10][11]) is a Unix-like and mostly POSIX-compliant[12] computer operating system (OS) assembled under the model of free and open-source software development and distribution.
It's not GNU/Linux fuck boy. It's just Linux.
>>55196779
Define "operating system", if you please, because Linux is just the kernel, and most people look at more than the kernel when thinking of the operating system.
>>55196807
Linux is what the operating system is called.
>>55196804
Thanks for confirming.
>>55196828
Glad I could help.
>>55196824
Right then, I'm done here.
>>55196824
By the media and companies. a lot of the community uses the more neutral term GNU/Linux. But i am repling to bait again and should stop.
Reminder we have two thread on /t/
One on torrenting ported videogames
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928
One on torrenting tutorial videos and IT learning material
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097
>>55196851
>>55196850
No. The majority of the community calls it Linux. A select few call it GNU/Linux. I'm more inclined to side with the majority on this one. You are of course free to call it whatever you want, but don't be shocked when people give you strange looks.
What's the most newbie friendly tiling window manager in my GNU/Linux system?
>>55196824
This is MY bait!
Linux is the kernel. While it's actually an operating system on it's own, it's incomplete and so is the GNU operating system. Together, both parts are a complete operating system.
>>55196915
Yep, it's stilled called Linux though.
>>55196914
awesome comes with a usable configuration out of the box and a decent manual. Could try that.
>>55196924
So you want Debian GNU/kFreeBSD users to call their system "Just Linux"?
>>55196935
Does it have minimize or maximize button?
Can this be added to the OP?
Ricing GNU/Linux is not made by only choosing themes and colors, but what software goes in your computer. "Display Managers" are the login screens, "Window Managers" are the part drawing the borders, colors, etc, and "File Managers" are what handles how you browse your machine. More info:
>Window Manager Reviews. To decide the main look and feel.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tfnhk/raw
>GNU/Linux Software Big List. For options on many more stuff.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/zf6af/raw
>How to Customize your Bash Prompt
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-customize-your-bash-prompt-on-a-linux-vps
http://dotshare.it/
http://terminal.sexy/
>Where to get some themes and icons
https://www.box-look.org
https://www.gnome-look.org
Arc, a GTK Theme: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/arc-gtk-theme
Mac OS X (MacBuntu) Transformation pack for Ubuntu: http://www.noobslab.com/search/label/macbuntu
How to have a Win 95 theme on Lubuntu: https://ghostbin.com/paste/atb7t
Macintosh System 6 XFCE4 Theme: https://github.com/ubuntufag/System6-theme
IRIX icons: http://darkdoomer.deviantart.com/art/da-motherfuckin-irix-icon-set-179568520
Win95 icons: https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Classic95?content=157298
Paper Icon Set: http://snwh.org/paper/icons/
>Starting x without DM or Login Manager
https://ghostbin.com/paste/nsdkf
>>55196915
theres a version of manjaro with pre riced i3 you could try
>>55196950
So mad lol.
>>55196924
If you're unsure about the systems name, just ask the system itself.uname -o
>>55196959
meant to reply to >>55196914
>>55196972[user1@primary ~]$ uname -o
GNU/Linux
>>55196972
>>55196987
It's called Linux for short. No one except for autists in this thread called it GNU/Linux.
>>55196118
Why is the IRC channel called flt? That would mean it is called friendly linux thread.
>>55196993
You mean stupid normalfags? Yeah. The same people who say "I photoshopped it" when they used GIMP.
Well, I get your point. It's Just Photoshop.
>>55197007
Because the irc channel is older than the thread title.
>>55196993
Yeah just like people say "cuz" instead of because. AKA niggers
Remember:
Ignore Microsoft/anti-Linux trolls.
Ignore BSD/anti-GNU trolls.
Ignore anti-OpenRC/anti-Upstart/anti-Mir trolls.
Mark them as bait. You are invited to share/create copypasta to prevent doubts they create.
>>55197012
>replying to bait
>>55196946
It's actually Debian Linux, or just Debian, or just Linux.
Why is GNU so bloated?
Compare for example Freebsd ls with GNU
FreeBSD ls 903 lines https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/10.3.0/bin/ls/ls.c?view=markup
GNU ls 4977 lines http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/ls.c
look at this tiny 'yes' command all it does is output a string repeatedly until killed
http://bxr.su/FreeBSD/usr.bin/yes/yes.c
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/yes.c
>>55197067
Because Richard Stallman is a hack and shouldn't be allowed to choose the name for Linux.
>>55196852
>ported videogames
In case you want free as in freedom alternatives, here is a list of open source videogames for GNU/Linux
https://ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw
>>55197067
Umm, this discussion has gone on quite long enough, thank you very much. It doesn't really matter what people call Linux, as long as credit is given where credit is due (on both sides). Personally, I'll very much continue to call it "Linux", ...
The GNU people tried calling it GNU/Linux, and that's ok. It's certainly no worse a name than "Linux Pro" or "Red Hat Linux" or "Slackware Linux" ...
Lignux is just a punny name - I think Linux/GNU or GNU/Linux is a bit more "professional" ...
>>55197065
>>55197067
>implying the lenght of the code is because of the license
>>55197108
Should I call my install GNU/every program installed/Linux?
>>55197129
No, other programs are part of the distributions and they vary anyway.
>>55197140
Strawman. Try again.
>>55196394
So what if you don't know, you look it up on the wiki, do it, and learn something new. You have to start somewhere.
>>55197140
coreutils are in every distribution
Wizards assemble !
Advanced users of GNU/Linux, remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution that can heal broken installs. And (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, and uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
Even the documentation is licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can also use flags.
Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage? You haven't seen anything like SMGL's "sorcery". Making "spells" to install new packages is as easy as editing files http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book
http://sourcemage.org/
>>55197148
The coreutils are part of the core OS; the GNU part.
>>55196948
If you uncomment the window decorations in config.lua, yes
>>55197158
Why would you use free software? It's trash and nothing works.
>>55197172
Just fuck off finally.
I've realized many distros (well, Ubuntu and Mint) sometimes struggle to detect my 1TB external drive. I'm about to switch to Manjaro now and I'm guessing it'll be the same (I used the USB for booting into the OS, make sure everything works, without installing), and It didn't detect my ext. drive either.
Any tips? How can I fix this? How can I make linux to see my drive with the flow of a win10 os?
>>55197184
I never been to the Linux General subreddit, just wanted to see what it is all about and I must say not impressed.
what programs do you use to control fans and monitor temps?
>>55197158
Reading the documentation for USB install
># fdisk -cu /dev/sdb
>then, in sequence, type something like:
>o*n*p*1***t*83*a*1*w*
>replacing each * with a powerful stroke on your Enter key.
no thanks
>>55197188
What do you mean by struggle to detect? Does it show up if you run lsblk?
>>55197282
When it does, it works fine and it shows in the file manager and everything, but when it does not, it does not show up with lsblk, normally I have to restart either the PC or the drive couple of times until the OS realizes it is there.
>>55197319
A lot of those big externals have this bullshit firmware glue. I bet that's what the overall issue is. Shit like that give me fits at times doing computer repair because once that firmware goes out so does any hope of getting at that data even if the rest of it is fine. I feel your pain.
>>55191319
do they have to be rewritten?
>>55196284
I tried ubuntu, arch, and finally mint
Ubuntu i couldnt get to install right, had some weird lighting glitch
Arch i followed some guy on youtubes install and i probably just made a tyoo but couldnt get past partitioning the drive
Mint is installing right now
>>55197574
You're probably right, I guess its a fucking gg and that's all. The Pain of Freedom.
in firefox I can't see any emoji displayed and whenever there is some japanese or chinese stuff written it is not displayed.
my distribution is archlinux.
>>55197683
With open firmware we might've been able to fix that. Shit sucks, man. The problem is that it's secretly 2 drives with a firmware hack to make it look contiguous. I know that Seagate does this a fuckton, less sure of other brands,
>>55197688
Make sure your local is utf-8
>>55196284
>>55197645
im trying mint right now too, downloading the iso atm
ubuntu/unity too slow, xfce and mate dont support resizing resolution
>>55197742
it already is
How good are the browsers for emacs?
>>55197718
Mine has this shit, its a WD though
>>55197816
>mint
Why.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1636325 can anyone from /g/ help me.
I'm using the following command in terminal on OSX to make a Debian boot USB.sudo dd if=<debian.iso> of=/dev/diskX bs=4m; sync
How long is this supposed to take? Or am I just staring at a white window for nothing? ISO is 660MB.
>>55198011
It'll be done when it's done. No sooner and no later.
>>55197993
y not
>>55198047
I've been on Mint for almost a month now and I'm starting to wonder why too.
>>55198011
Should've added 'status=progress'
>>55198045
Could I at least get a time frame?
>>55198113
The developers are incompetent and it should only be used by winkiddies who are too noob to even figure out ubuntu.
>>55198142
>The developers are incompetent
Elaborate
>>55198113
>>55198047
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/
>>55198229
They block updates so the distro doesnt break. https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules
>>55198117
Less than a minute. Also, use 4M instead of 4m. That might be the problem.
>>55198142
>>55198234
Frankly, the majority of distros that aren't "base" distros (Debian, Red Hat, etc.), and even some that are (Arch), have incompetent developers.
Is there a text editor(not some program you have to learn 5 key binds to be able to enter text) that can handle 500m+ lines of text?
>>55198234
>>55198245
>no kernel upgrades via the graphical updater
That's enough of a reason right there.
>>55198285
>implying there's no text editor with keybinds
I'm going to go ahead say vi. Because it does. Like a champ. If you need to just view, less is even faster.
>>55198303
*no text editor without keybinds
>>55198315
There are plenty, however, that don't require knowledge of them in order to do anything at all.
>>55198303
>>55198315
I shouldnt be FORCED to type in 5+ keys to be able to insert text, you damn well know what i ment.
HURR DURRR EVERY THING EVER HAS KEYBINDS URRRR
Yeah but when i have to TYPE keybinds that allow me to TYPE to begin with, thats asinine
>>55198340
They still require knowledge. It's just knowledge in a format you're already familiar with (permanent insert mode, standard keybindings that you like). Strip away the assumptions and you'll find you have a lot more options than you thought.
>>55198285
vim can do that
emacs can do that
By induction any text editor can do it
QED
>>55198358
>It's just knowledge in a format you're already familiar with
Which is what makes it better.
>>55198356
Yes, pressing the 'i' key once per session is so taxing on your overworked mind, we get it. Try to keep the autistic tantrums to a minimum though.
>>55198368
leafpad/gedit/blufish all cease to function loading or die out when im the middle
>>55198400
lol
>>55198384
The only one throwing autistic tantrums is the guy deliberately misunderstanding what the other guy was requesting and making unconstructive posts.
>>55198286
you can just enable these updates
>>55198547
Why would it be knocked out of the GUI updater most targeted end-users are expected to use by default? That's the worrisome part, and strikes me as incredibly pointless and self-defeating. I would love to see the rationale for that.
>>55198384
>your an autist because the stupid retarded shit you're bitching about isn't a big inconvenience
bruh, it's the small things that are the most annoying
Here's a good Arch Linux wiki article to read
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Security
(for those that don't already know)
>>55198611
I have auditing setup and on the important system files/folders. But what now? I dont see an alert system say via a cron job to root mail(back in the old day) All i see its how to look at events after they have already happened, but not to manually check about whats up
>>55197240
bump for any help
Is Debian worth it?
>>55197240
I don't know about controlling fans, personally, but I know that hddtemp is great for, well, what it says. I know you can get nvidia temps nvidia-smi or probably nvidia-settings, if that matters to you. Not too sure about any others.
>>55198670
To monitor temps install lm_sensors
>>55198673
否、断じて否
>>55198673
it's supposedly good for servers
>>55198673
It has a good logo, so it will look pretty in your screenfetch.
Nothing on Arch seems to work well out of the box.
What's the advantage to using it over a more mainstream distro like Debian?
>>55198673
"worth it" in what manner? It certainly won't make you more intelligent.
>>55198842
street cred, and it will occupy all your useless spare time
>>55198868
Is it worth for entry level?
>>55198842
You're probably just stupid. Arch isn't any harder to use than Debian. If you can't handle Arch, Debian will probably be too much as well, sorry.
>>55198893
Just fucking off yourself my man
>>55198893
no
it's worth it because of customization and the aur
just start with debian or something, then work up to arch
>>55198938
Arch being the ultimate goal right?
>>55198947
Arch is a stepping stone to Gentoo, nothing more.
>>55198947
the ultimate goal is to stop being a faggot
>>55198947
if you want. you don't need to use it if you don't have any reason to, so just try it and see if you like it
>>55197274
they could have made a 5-page document on how to do the same thing with a GUI that would take longer to perform and that you still wouldn't understand
but what's the point in that?
>>55198957
From there, you advance to BSD.
>>55199011
lol no. Nice try
>>55199011
Is OpenBSD the cool one? I want to try it out.
>>55199020
BSD is only slightly more of a timesink OS than gentoo and therefore better by the autistic /g/ measure.
>>55199027
Yes. It's pretty amazing. I left Gentoo two years ago and never looked back.
>>55198842
Control.
I am free(inb4 freetards) to install what i want how ever i want it.
You're given a templlate and you add on to it.
Instead of having to go through giant leaps to get things of you dont need,as part of a bigger pacakge you only need minimal parts of
Arch is not hard to install. You lack the edurance to type on a keyboard, or copy paste 10 command lines and press ok
>>55199027
FreeBSD, nobody uses OpenBSD
Xorg is deprecated. SystemD is deprecated, Arch is deprecated, xfce is deprecated, DWM is deprecated, X86 is deprecated, AMD64 is deprecated, OpenGL is deprecated....
>>55199076
Perfect for debian then
>>55199068
Which the pros and cons of FreeBSD vs GNU/Linux?
>>55199068
Nobody uses BSD
FTFY
>>55199095
Yes, for Ubuntoo too.
>>55199076
what isn't deprecated then
>>55199097
No systemd, no Stallman.
What's systemd, pacman, etc..?
Recently switched from Windows to Debian, I'm reading on cron and it looks like the thing I need to not run a rsync backup script manually.The script also has some sudo commands since it copies some stuff from /etc/, so would I need to run the thing on root?
I didcrontab -e
as root and put in0 9 * * * /home/anon/./backup_rsync
0 21 * * * /home/anon/./backup_rsync
I have no idea what I'm doing.
>>55196118
They haven't fixed this yet, have they?
>>55199169
I just read man cron, I think I'm fine now.
>>55199161
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman
>>55199011
SMGL final destination.
>>55199126
Gentoo - distro
musl, uclibc - C standard library.
uclibc++ - C++ library.
Wayland - display server protocol.
OpenRC - init system/
Velox, Orbment, Sway - Tiling WM
KDE5 Gnome Orbital - DE
POWER8, POWER9 - CPU
Vulkan - Graphics API
>>55199201
>2016
>GUI beyond browser
topkek/
>>55199169
>>55199221
Why do I feel weeabos are always the quickest to learn IT shit?
Do I need to watch more anime?
>>55199201
what i'm looking at? is opening an closing immediately for you?
>>55199267
Get out stupid namefag
>>55199201
Keep it pressed. Autoclosing is a feature not a bug, don't ask for its removal.
>>55199273
It's the Xorg-gtk bug that most "enterprise distros" ship with these days.
>>55199270
I learn stuff so fast I solve it before asking /g/.
I can read classical Japanese.
>>55199287
>don't ask for its removal.
Time to switch completely to KDE then. I wonder why this """"feature"""" is not available with wayland
>>55199270
I don't think anime has anything to do with it, but I would like it if everyone watched more anime.
>>55199301
>I wonder why this """"feature"""" is not available with wayland
Because wayland suck balls. Overglorified piece of shit that is.
>>55199314
Ohoho, no. Enjoy your keylogger and screen tearing, my retard friend
>>55199294
Install Wayland
>>55199295
>he can read classical Japanese
>I can't even into english properly
Any reasons why I should use GNOME over KDE?
>>55199301
Are you so stupid you can't hold down a button to solve your problem?
anyone know of a high-quality ideally system-wide equalizer?
Various things exist, for instance this pulse shit:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/72679/is-there-any-sound-enhancers-equalizer
but for instance on windows you can find ones with much finer-grained control (e.g., you construct a spline from arbitrary control points, rather than a fixed set of frequencies)
>>55199328
>keylogger and screen tearing
>xorg
I want this meme to die.
>>55199314
Lol wayland is KISS as it is, XORG - shitty deprecated legacy code.
>>55199343
That's not a solution faggot
>>55199347
Can't handle the truth? Hide the comment
>>55199306
Back to finishing Lain I guess.
>>55199346
run pulse on top of jackd with the jackd pulse backend plugin. once you have jackd as the 'master' sound system, you have a multitude of options for EQ.
>>55199295
>I can read classical Japanese.
Then I hope you're as excited for 大迷宮&大迷惑 as I am. Liar-soft games run great in Wine.
>>55199354
Stops asking for the removal of a feature, developers are autistic enough to take you serious.
>>55199346
Alsaequal?
>>55199333
pajeet.
>>55199201
wth is wrong with it?
>>55199468
Drowdown menu vanishes right after mouseclick is finished
>>55196411
It isn't. It's difficulty is incredibly overrated.
>>55199480
So you hold it down? This isnt even an issue holy fuck.Been like this for years
>>55199382
Why would that string of kanji work in a browser, but not on the system its self?
>>55199487
>hold it down
I know. And dont re define how GUIs work. There is no reason of having to hold down mouse button for this.
>>55199378
cool, thanks.
poking around, I didn't see anything quite precise enough (something that lets you specify an adjustment for arbitrary sets of frequencies, rather than a fixed set of frequencies), but I'll take a second look. Maybe I'll just have to write it myself..
>>55199507
There is no reason to not having to hold down mouse button either.
>>55199520
Other than it being awkward and inconsistent with how everything else works?
>>55199507
Get off your commodore 64 granpa, this is the new world.
Why would you want to click again?
Its more proficent to hold down the mouse.
Gotta be about that workflow!!!!!!
>>55199295
>>55199382
Ah, I knew I was missing something. I used to have google ime for moon characters, what would I choose in Linux? I'm looking at Arch's wiki with uim at the moment and Debian has a metapackage containing it.
>>55199201
I dont see what your problem is
>>55199571
>awkward and inconsistent
How is it awkward and inconsistent? To me it seems you are just having a tantrum. You don't like that feature, but everyone else is perfectly fine with it.
>>55199586
Use fcitx and mozc. It's essentially Google IME with the non-free stuff stripped out.
>>55199586
WenQuanYi is the first it comes to my mind when talking about fonts.
>>55199294
would you mind giving more info? i don't know about that bug, do you have a link to the bug report?
>>55199610
I'm not the same guy and I don't even use GNOME. I'm just saying that's a bad way to design it if that's in fact intentional.
>>55199586
I use fcitx-mozc. Make sure you start it with '--disable clipboard'. It gets pretty annoying, otherwise.
>>55199514
Personally, I use Jamin
>>55199640
doesn't happen on Fedora 23/GNOME 3.18, maybe it's a 3.20 thing
>>55198011
you can use dcfldd too, try it. Also an easier way is using the gnome disks utility assuming you have a linux os installed
>>55199577
What the fuck are you on about?
Do you think anyone gives a shit about your garbage gtk? Do you even realise it has become impossible to tick the checkboxes on dropdown menu? Windows, Mac, KDE - no one else have this piece of shit ""feature"".
Maybe you can add a feature called "resizable thumbnails" because it's 2016. Hopefully your incompetent prajeet devs can see this.
>>55199608
It's a gtk2 dialog. gtk3 is broken
>>55199615
The only problem with wqy is that it doesn't display short-width characters like ﾃﾗ
>>55199689
wo wo wo remember this is a friendly thread....
>>55199719
Awoo is not for sexual purpose
>>55198266
>>55198045
Alright, one live CD download later, and then I realize I was burning to "disk1s1" instead of "disk1." Got it working now. Thanks guys.
>>55199689
Dont use shit?
Not an issue here bro
You're not even making any sense now.
I dont get what you are even bitching about.
I've got a dual monitor setup with the latest version of lubuntu (just Ubuntu, but using LXDE instead of Unity). Whenever I boot up and maximize a window on the top monitor, it overlaps onto the lower monitor by around 5 pixels. Running Arandr fixes it straight away, but no matter how much I fuck around with the LXDE startup scripts, the same thing happens. It's a minor irk, but rrrreeeeeeEEEEE
>>55199754
Dumb anime poster
>>55199719
What do you use?
>>55199755
Cinnamon, GNOME, network manager, gufw, gnome tweak tool.. everything has moved to gtk3.
If this is a wontfix, I'll say goodbye to gtk DEs for good
>>55199671
amazing! this is just what I wanted!
thanks so much!!
I've looked a number of times before today without success. maybe I'm just bad at computers but I really really appreciate it.
>>55199814
Are you literally this retarded?
>>55199832
Instead of posting memes how about actually post an argument?
does anyone know a nice way to do multi-monitor setup in wayland?
ideally something that place nice with sway? on xorg, I use i3wm and arandr.
i'm guessing kde has their multi-monitor widgets working, but I'd rather not go that route.
>>55199840
There is nothing to discuss with you, you're assblasted about nothing, and are foaming at the mouth.
>>55199861
>>55199832
Ran out of arguments? Good, take your salt somewhere else
>>55199860
xrandr should be all you need
I want to install Wayland but I like xfce what's lightweight DE that works as well as xfce?
>>55199880
WAAAAAA CHANGE IS BAD I HATE EVERYTHING
I CANT ADAPT
This is what you sound like.
>>55199901
I don't think Xfce will work with wayland
>>55199787
I do use it, nothing else compares. It gives that SFC vibe and looks good with bitmap fonts. The fallback font I use doesn't look as good. I've been meaning to find a better one.
>>55199906
That's not a change idiot, that's a fucking bug.
Dropdown menu disappearing is a fucking bug
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_365hp-powerpoint/bug-drop-down-menu-problems-instantly-disappear-on/0f28bcc3-2d9f-4722-b7a5-bb290f495892
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/820877
http://www.windows10forums.com/threads/pull-down-menus-continually-disappear-while-scrolling-to-select-option.4105/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5754719?tstart=0
https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/27488418/Mac-OSX-10-6-drop-down-menus-disappear-immediately-can't-elect-options.html
Retard gtk cuck
>>55196780
>not having a package manager
>>55199950
You are going through the denial stage. Take it easy.
>>55199614
>>55199615
>>55199645
ありがとう
That being said, I need to read up on the keys, nothing is happening when I try to use their keyboard shortcuts. Also, it feels very weird looking at the hiragana keyboard. I used to type arigatou and be done with it.
>>55199987
You can stop trying now, there is no way to hide the fact that you are a fucking retard. Pretend this thread never happened
>>55199917
I've tried following this chain, but what fonts are these?
They render in browsers correctly but not within the system or terminal, i cant find the wenquen font
So I've installed Weston, which DE should I use? Love xfce but xfce no good atm with Wayland. Something that's lightweight but customizable. maybe something that will work with sway.
I want to use Ubuntu. My laziness tells me to go ahead, my mind tells me not to because of principles.
Should I use Ubuntu over Fedora or Debian?
>>55199996
You're probably in direct composition mode. Set it to hiragana instead.
>>55200071
Use Ubuntu until you're comfortable, then switch to Debian testing.
