Fedora 24 discussion thread here plox
:)
haha
Don't upgrade yet, let the repos and shit upgrade, takes a bit to happen.
>>55193064
Here, I've made a list of people who care: .
>>55193064
>mfw I just installed Fedora 23 a month ago
I am not upgrading yet. I doubt I'll be missing out on much. I really love this distro. It just werks and it's bleeding edge.
im on Fedora 23 and i REALLY need an upgrade. should i wait?
Mmyes, indeed, good sir.
*tip*
>>55193064
WHAT KERNEL DID THEY USE?
Does it have default Wayland yet?
23 or bust
>>55193064
I want the hacker mr.4chan to review fedora 24.
Still on 22. Might be time to upgrade to 23
>>55194703
just upgraded, two things broke
dropbox (not in rpmfusion yet although dropbox-nemo is in testing)
have a vertical white strip along the right side of my desktop
Ayyy have they even fixed the grub problem with dual booting. The "out of memory " one
protip: use the GNOME firefox theme, it looks amazing
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adwaita/
what flavor/spin should i go for?
notebook 4GiB ram Intel i5 ivybride with radeon 7650m.
>>55197417
cinnamon
>>55197417
and a shitty tn 1366x768 panel
>>55197490
xmonad
>>55193064
dont bother. i dropped fedora after upgrading to the beta crashed my whole fucking system. fuck gahnoo slash linoxx
dnf install windows
>>55193064
Haven't used Fedora since I moved to OS X. What's new, and why should I nuke my Ubuntu VM and install this?
>>55198374
everything is better than ubuntu since unity came out.
>>55197417
Just go with GNOME, the Fedora integration is fantastic
>>55198539
mfw gnome (workstation) iso is broke
mfw plasma spin just weks
mfw no face.
>>55193171
You better watch your mouth, annon. There are dozens of us fedora tippers. If you don't stop trashin on muh fedora I'll have to tell my parents.
>>55193064
I'm literally upgrading right now
>>55198939
I'll try the KDE spin after using Gnome for a while. I kinda like Gnome, but my laptop still has a shitty 1366x768 screen and everything on GNOME looks SO HUGE MOTHAFUCKA.
>>55193064
Windows user here. Using it on live cd mode atm
It's interesting. I'll probably wait for AMDGPU support for my R9 280. GPU sharing with Vmware Workstation will probably not work so may have to rely on GPU passthrough with KVM and LXC for VMs. That and there aren't some things I'd like the software to control my DNA 200 mod, MS flight simulator, banking/online company record updating software, better integration with Windows Phone, better dependency management for outdated apps(Flatpak and Snap should solve this). Only if Proxmox worked with Fedora, I'd switch in an instant. Also the fonts are horrible. Hopefully infinality should fix them.
I love how much Gnome has improved since the 3.12/3.14 cycle. The UI feels much more consistent and is more smoother.
Overall I'll give it a 7/10.
Screenshot: https://a.cocaine.ninja/uidihb.png
(Too big to attach here)
Thanks for reading my blog post.
what's different from 23?
>>55199796
newer packages
>>55199899
filtered
>>55199899
TOMATO!!!!
>>55199280
it runs just fine on mine notebook 1366x768
Can anyone explain me about SElinux?
>>55200198
Its a Discretionary Action Control so think Mandatory Access Control (e.g. Linux file permissions) on steroids.
It can assign roles and such to certain programs on your computer, effectively restricting them from touching things they should not.
What that means is it can protect your computer against certain forms of exploits by restricting program and file access.
>netinstalling Fedora 24 on virtual machine
>eventually got stuck on downloading a package
never again
>>55200198
It was made by the NSA, therefore literal bonnet
What Qt version does the KDE spin use?
>>55198991
I'm back after a while, I've had to revert to stock fontconfig from fontconfig-ultimate-infinality - and then move again to infinality patches after the upgrade.
Other than that, the laptop didn't explode. I've been through the standard post-upgrade operations (`rpmconf -a 'and the like) and the only think I miss right now are the CERT forensic upgades (there's no F24 repo for that yet)
>>55201917$ qmake -v
Qmake version: 1.07a (Qt 3.3.8b)
Qmake is free software from Trolltech ASA.
$ qmake-qt5 -v
QMake version 3.0
Using Qt version 5.6.0 in /usr/lib64
KDE obviusly uses qt5
>>55202807
Cool. 5.6 apparently fixed a multi-monitor problem I was having so glad to see it standard.
>>55202807
>>55198991
There's a couple of new avc denied while listening on sockets for systemd-journald-dev-log.socket and systemd-journald-audit.socket - no unholy side effects for a workstation, just some noise in the journal. I guess the SELinux policies will need some refining
>>55193977
25 is going to have it
>>55193922
4.5.something
>>55193922$ uname -r
4.7.0-0.rc4.git1.1.fc24.x86_64
but I've custom-rebuilt a kernel from rawhide immediately after the upgrade; the last official kernel for F24 is 4.5.7
instant garbage
>>55202821
Really? From the bugtracker, it seems like the mulit-monitor issue I have, needs 5.7
>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356225
>>55204347
It was another one, related to segfaulting if no monitor was found. I believe it was fixed in 5.6 unless it's been pushed back.
>>55202821
>>55204347
There have been various issues introduced by Qt5
It's even fancier if you have an optional multi-monitor setup, with screens appearing and disappearing. In such scenario you had to restart plasmashell, plus killing pulseaudio before doing that or goodbye sounds.
It was a Qt5 "feature"; "they" assumed that screen would or should never disappear (or rather, they assumed that client apps would gracefully handle the case)
That happened in LXQt too
qt-5.6 was expected to improve it and I can confirm that some of those issues do not occur any more ( plasmashell 5.6.5 )
>>55193064
no thanks
>>55204578
I've heard that if you buy a Mac you instantly become hip and cool
Maybe you won't have filed a dozen patents and five peer-reviewed publications like the engineer you depicted, but hey you'll be the Chad/Stacey you always wanted to be
summer + millennials is a deadly combination
>>55204297
how stable is rawhide these days?
I'm just gonna assume that 21:9 is still broken.
I don't know what it is with Linux but they seem to really hate ultrawides.
The only "just werks™" I've had for this so far was with a Openbox and Antergos pairing weirdly enough.
Does MATE or KDE5 have super+p screen switching?
>>55205043
pls halp
>>55193089
I already upgraded
>>55204172
>25 is going to have it
Didn't they say that about 23 ?
Main question is:
When will Cinnamon go Wayland?
>inb4 you should kill yourself for using Cinnamon on Fedora
>>55205355
DESU not sure, but I am sure that you can make it work, since both have modifiable keyboard shortcuts and you can assign custom command to them
>>55205439
and they do have an easy switch screen option like Unity, OSX, Winders?
>>55205420
Don't know, why don't you ask Clem in Mint forum about that?
>>55205030
can't you just force the res you want with xrandr?
Like back in the days of CRTs (and still currently, if you still have a CRT hanging around), where you had to decide which resolution you wanted, instead of getting the correct one from the monitor.
How do I make Fedora have sexy font rendering like my Ubuntu GNOME setup? I would love to give it a try but everything looks like shit.
>>55205840
You can't. After trying absolutely everything everyone says, at the end of the day, no other distro's fonts will ever render as nicely as they do on Ubuntu.
Some come close, though. Fedora is the worst out of the box next to openSUSE
>>55205907
Yeah I have tried in the past to make other distros look nice but they all end up looking like poor OS X implementations which isn't what I want. I think Ubuntu fonts look fucking gorgeous.
>>55205840
>>55205907
literally one of the big features of this release was that they were improving font rendering
also download Gnome Tweak Tool and change font hinting to slight and antialiasing to RGBA. for my machine at least that is identical to Ubuntu's font stack
>>55205840
This might help
https://danielrenninghoff.com/2015/11/22/infinality-ultimate-bundle-packaged-for-fedora/
>>55206333
cheers. bookmarked for when it is updated with builds for 24 final
>>55193064
Is the TLP repo already available?
Literally just installed 23 a few weeks ago (should've looked closer at the release schedule) ... would I have to back up all data / settings before updgrading?
>>55197267
>shit fonts
>shit gnome
>shit interface
>shit package manager
>slow as fuck to install and check the updates
Go into to trash! Fedora is a meme!
>>55208669
>>shit fonts
You can fix it
>>shit gnome
opinions
>>shit interface
opinions
>>shit package manager
Funny I had less problems with DNF, if I compare to apt
>>slow as fuck to install and check the updates
Works fine in my machine
>>55201241
arigatou senpai.
>>55205420
They will only switch to Wayland as default after a version with Wayland working flawlessly as non-default.
>>55193064
ayyy someone made one other than me.
installing now, been running it since the beta, really great performance.
as far as general usability, this is the distro I can confidently put on a windows user's computer without inhibiting their workflow.
>>55193064
Finally? Who was waiting for this?
>>55209633
fucking me, waited weeks, go away
>>55193171
you too goy, commenting on threads to say "x is not worthy of my time or discussion"
>>55208806
Fair enough about the fonts, although they'll never be as good as Ubuntu.
dnf is better than apt in some ways but it's dog shit slow and mentally retarded.
>>55193531
I upgraded and it fucked up my GTK (might have been my 10 third party repos). Other than that, it still just werks.
>>55199899
Wow so fucking original asshat
>>55209479
>>55208958
So, never. There's always going to be a small group of autistic fucks who will scream bloody murder that Wayland broke their retarded setup and the pushover maintainers will just delay it further.
Until they come out and say "Wayland is shipping as default in 25 whether you're ready for it or not", it's never happening.
>>55193064
What's good about fedora?
Last time I checked there was no too much software on the repos, even if enabling third party ones.
>>55210474
You shouldn't use third party repos on Fedora any more, they are all outdated, poorly packaged and ship broken packages.
Installed Fedora for the first time a week ago. Rolling for cinnamon, really liking it. I wanted something that just werk'd and it's actually working. Should I upgrade to 24? My repos are just the rpm and non free stuff.
Also, any tips for a new Fedora user?
>>55210581
Aaaaaand the thread is ded.
>>55210581
>Should I upgrade to 24?
Yes
Also bumping
i tried fedora for shits and giggles
why is GNOME 3 still so fucking bad, why doesn't it come with gnome-tweak-tool, why is it so much work to set different icon sizes
>>55212746
You either love it or hate it desu
No tweak tool is weird though, I thought all distros just had that by default now?
>>55212813
nope, fedora doesn't even package it
it's still unacceptable to me that you have to use dconf to set icon sizes in nautilus
hell, i can't even figure out how to create a launcher when i enable desktop icons
>>55212830
oh and by packaging it i mean that it doesn't ship with it, of course
